Baldur's Gate 3 - [EPILOGUE] Dark Urge gets a new chance in the afterlife
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- Durge kills themselves and ends up in the fugue plane with Withers. They might serve Withers / Jergal in the afterlife.
Accept Bhaal or lose the duel against Orin. Destroy the Netherbrain. End yourself.
If they don't end themselves, Durge will become feral:
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I love Withers little hurrah shakes when he says "hero." Our undead king of pep talks
Okay, so we know Jergal (aka Withers) pretty much finds the Dead Three as a waste, so what if he ascends the Dark Urge to take the portfolios of all three, essentially making Durge his true successor?
Thats if Kelemvor isn't already there. Which begs the question of what death domains truly belongs to who?
@@anniemulholland1651 AO, lol.
With AO permission, to Kelemvor. Its like how a king assigns governor. But not for a city or province. For a sphere of existance.
@@ГригорийГ-ч4н Nah, it's more like how a king has a doctor, and an architecht, and a stablemaster. Ao does not possess any of the portfolios of death (in 2e he had "Creation of deities" and "maintenance of cosmic balance", but those haven't been stated since), and I think it's important to point out that Ao is extremely aloof and distant from events and rarely meddles (thus the comparison to a king becomes less apt).
@@anniemulholland1651 I think Kelemvor's portfolio is more about judging the dead, where, say Myrkkul is the actual concept of death. Like Thanatos vs Hades in Greek Mythology
I don't think Jergal has that ability. Of the Death Gods Kelemvor is still the top in the hierarchy, but even his role is more of a judge of the dead souls and helping them move on tto the afterlife. Myrkul covers death, decay, exhaustion, necromancy, etc stuff like that. Jergal was once the only god of Death and his portfolio included Tyranny, Murder and Death, but now he acts as a scribe and maintains the record of names of all those who have died. When Withers ressurrects a character he is striking their name from the record. Myrkul and Jergal both are under Kelemvor and serve him. Bane and Bhaal have nothing to do with the Death gods, except for the alliance between Bane, Bhaal, and Myrkul
If this is not a dlc tease, a don't know what it is.
A new chosen of The God of Death
I might be way off but I am starting to get the vibe that Jergal wants you to become the new god of death. I suspected if you let Bhaal kill you as the Bhaalspawn when he ressurects you and makes you his champion. Would the lore allow this? I mean if Gale becomes a god in the epilogue and you romanced him he will make you a god as well and you ask what you will be god of he says he isn't sure yet. Seems to me they are setting up godhood path for the player character in the future. Like how the main character of Elder Scrolls 4 became the new god of madness and elder scrolls 5 main character is obviously Shor the dead god of humanity who is about to come back to life.
Bane, Bhaal, Myrkul, Kelemver, Cyric, and Mystra were originally mortals who ascended to godhood (Mystra takes some explaining, though. Best look it up on the wiki)
In the game Baldur's Gate 2: Throne of Bhaal, your character has the option to ascend to godhood as well. (However, I think the "canonical" character rejects godhood)
It is not common in any sense of the word for mortals to become gods, but it does happen
Elder Scrolls 5 chatacter isnt Shor
Obviously Shor? This is the first time I've ever heard this theory. Care to explain further? I never saw any indication of you being Shor in the game. Got thousands of hours in it, lol.
@@Kathrynerius No the OP, but there are a couple of hints throughout the game. First, in Old Hroldan, the ghost companion of Tiber Septim recognises you (and only you) as Hjalti Early-Beard (the true name of Tiber Septim/Talos), and Talos, in it's full form, is a Shezzarine. During the last quest, when you get to Sovngarde and the Hall of Heroes, you can sit on Sheor's throne (unlike in Oblivion's Shivering Isles, when you could only sit after you mantled Sheogorath). Also in the Hall of Heroes, the NPCs there say they are forbidden to leave before Sheor arrives, and they freely leave with you after. The Greybears also name you "Ysmir", like Wulfhart and Hjalti also were (the two parts of Talos the god).
He's just offers us to start a new game)
Hey you... you're finally awake
Your Durge is beautiful❤
Withers is great :)
Does it end there or is there more?
That's all
okay what route do you have to take in order to freaking kill yourself at the end of the game? I'm curious.
Play the Dark Urge.
spoilers obvi
dark urge
embrace bhaal after killing orin
betray bhaal and save the world
then choose to either die, go to prison, or become a slave to bhaal
@Kook_604 You don't have to embrace Bhaal to get this ending because if you do, Minsc and Jaheira die. There are a couple other ways like losing the duel between you and Orin and this will result in the "bad" ending for Durge.
@@iamsotjj9 i did.
@@Krovos_can you knock out jaheira and minsc?
Astarion sounds ascended
Cause he is, the spawn one would usually be the one to run off before anyone else would go to the tavern
He is, all of the companions are on their evil path in this run. Makes the ending where Durge kills everyone less sad
@@mizzysquishii5652 he actually has a line reacting to you killing yourself if he doesn’t ascend
Smiling Withers!!!
How he stab himself like that... that's madness. And gross.
Wither serve the god that give the Three B their godhood, right ? So why does he oppose them ?
No, he doesn't serve them. Wither is Jergal, the old god of death and the one that bestowed godhood on the Dead Three. He's not loyal to them, and even shows disgust upon their actions after their divine ascension, calling them vermins and fools. They are just a disappointment to him.
This is what happens if The Dark Urge becomes Bhaal's Chosen, then chooses to Destroy the Netherbrain instead of Dominating it in Bhaal's name. Out on the docks as Bhaal is about to dominate and punish you for your defiance as his Chosen, you have the option to kill yourself as one last act of resistance. If you either lost the duel with Orin or won the duel and chose to become Bhaal's Chosen and you do not kill yourself right after the destruction of the Netherbrain, then in the epilogue you will be reduced to less than a feral, rabid beast, hungering for blood and slaughter and barely capable of any coherant speech, let alone thought. In your animalistic state you will find the epilogue party where all of your companions have gathered, and you will slaughter them all in their sleep.
It truly is a fate worse than death. The only way for The Dark Urge to make it to the epilogue party without their faculties being reduced to those of a savage beast is to win the duel against Orin and refuse to become Bhaal's Chosen. Bhaal will kill you for refusing him, yes. And he will take his tainted, foul, murderous blood from your veins, killing you before Bhaal's avatar leaves. But that is not all that Bhaal takes when he kills you. In reclaiming his foul blood from The Dark Urge, he takes the Dark Urges with it, and your connection to Bhaal is severed. Withers will restore you to life, and you will be able to greet the world without the viscious spark of brutality, desire for carnage, and mad bloodlust that clouded and possessed your mind and body. It is the only way to live life truly free of Bhaal as The Dark Urge.
Look, Jergall does seem to be a character who was acting out of grim nessecity when he was a god of death and etc. Part of existance, doing what must be done, etc, etc. At least, by the end of his godly existence. He decided to leave the throne. Bane, Myrkul and Bhaal on another hand reveled in dark power. Especially Bhaal. And their actions in game threaten to break balance. Because of that Jergall was sent (by Kelemvor, AO, someone with higher power) to deal with crisis and restore balance by helping adventure party.
@@ГригорийГ-ч4н Helm is theorised to be the "He" who Withers (a.k.a Jergal) speaks of when you meet him
@@ГригорийГ-ч4нsomeone above AO??!??
DLC whennnnnn
Is there really nothing extra for the Dark Urge who chooses to do what Father wants? No epilogue? Or am i doing something wrong?
There is one, and it's really sad 😅😅
@@noplace3571 I reloaded a save before taking the boat to the pools and replayed the whole final part of the game just to see the epilogue - and I got nothing. It was supposed to work... I'm confused.
You mean taking control of the brain? No, there is no epilogue for that. People die, your companions are mind controlled - the end.
does this still happen if you turn into an illithid as durge?
Nope, Illithid ending overides it
@@Louves192 Ah, that explains why I got a much shorter version.
I love Withers, but...his grammar is bad.
It's early modern english that came after the transition from middle english