SawStop CTS 10" Compact Table Saw Setup & Unboxing - My First Table Saw (SawStop CTS-120A60)
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2024
- After nearly 5 years of #woodworking , there is finally a Tablesaw in the Fixit Fingers #workshop ! I reached out to @CarbatecTheHomeOfWoodworking to pre-order the 10" Saw Stop CTS (Compact Table Saw) the moment I saw its release video as finally there was a safety saw that was small enough to fit in my tiny garage workshop. Low and behold we got chatting, and they were kind enough to supply me with the unit to see what I think of it. Here is my unboxing, initial thoughts and how I set up the table saw for its first cut. This has to be the best table saw of its class out right now and the cheapest portable table saw too that won't cut off your fingers.
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00:00 - Overly Dramatic CTS Introduction
01:30 - SawStop CTS vs JS vs DeWalt 10" Saws
04:30 - SawStop Hotdog Safety Test
07:00 - CTS Unboxing and Setup
11:06 - SawStop CTS Features and Tuning
19:00 - My First Ever Table Saw Cut - Навчання та стиль
Proud of you James, everyone needs a Tablesaw mate as it’s the King of the Workshop 🤘🤘🇦🇺👍
And now I've got the baby sized King 👑 😁 Prince of saws?
Mate!! I'm not exaggerating, I've never felt more excitement/anxiety watching a blade go through a piece of timber!! Congratulations. You've achieved so much with such an almost "handicap"... the new era of Fingers is going to be epic.
Hahahahaha yeah but now I *do* have a table saw what am I gonna whinge about now every video? 🤣 That was genuine nervousness and excitement... But there is also a little white lie in there no one has called me out on yet 😅🤔🙊
@@FixitFingers now you can whinge about wishing you had a bigger shop, wishing your pallet wood looked like theirs, wishing you had a cnc .... 🤣 oh shit, a white lie?? It WASN'T your 1st ever table saw cut??
@@GumtreeHillWoodwork well _technically_ it was, but if you scroll back through my videos there is a dirty little secret hiding... 😅😇
@@FixitFingers got it!! 🤣 Circ saw!! I'll send you my PayPal deets & when you get some free time if you could just go ahead & inject something into it that would be great thanks. Your secrets safe with me.
@@GumtreeHillWoodwork hahaha, I did actually reference it when filming but it ended up on the cutting room floor during the edit... Ssh! 😋
Congratulations on getting such an awesome saw. I would definitely get a Sawstop if they were available here in Europe. Great stuff that Carbatec sponsored it! Happy sawing James!
G'day Jesper. I am super excited and very grateful for the deal with Carbatec. While this little saw probably won't be the best option for your proper sized workshop, the good news for Europeans with small workshops is there is no reason why this model can't be released in the UK and EU. My understanding is that usually, the ability to add a dado that requires removing the riving knife means they do not meet EU safety standards (ironic on the safest table saw in the world). As this model can not physically take a dado, hopefully it will see an EU release. I couldn't find any info on this, but that is my prediction.
P.S. - did you like my dramatic attempt at Jesper Makes lighting? 🤣
Awesome score mate! Just a tip with blade height. Make sure the full gullet on the blade is above the top of the timber you are cutting. The gullet not only takes sawdust away from the cut on exit, but it also takes cool air into the cut on entry. This helps cool the cut, keeping your blade sharper for longer.
You won’t look back now mate. You’ll wonder how you got by without a tablesaw 😂
Cheers Jax will keep that in mind. Once I get it hooked up to the new dusty that'll help too I'm sure :)
Congrats on the new table saw! I'm excited to see what possibilities it unlocks for you!
You and me both Earl. Mostly I think we woodworkers buy these tools as they then mean the list of things we have to make _for_ the new tool keeps us out of trouble for project ideas for the next few months (or years :P)
Perfect saw for your workshop, finger saving technology is a great bit of insurance I reckon. Well done Carbatec for recognising all your hard work 👍🏻
@@JoesWorkbench well it's no sliding panel saw... But I'll take it 😁
Congrats mate. You deserve it. Looking forward to the content moving forward.
Legend! 👏👏
Oh there is *SO MUCH* to do now. Jigs, sleds, building it into a workbench. It'll be a year before it is all fully 'set up' 🤔🤣
Great work mate! very informative video. It made me smile just watching how excited you were. This saw will change your life. Looking forward to seeing what you make with it.
Like a kid in a router bit store Mike... oh wait. That's also me :P Don't get me wrong, I've had a lot of fun over the last 4 years coming up with ways to rip things to size, and I'll still use my Kreg gear for breaking down large sheet goods, but super excited to be able to rip stuff much more easily now!
Congratulations. Can't wait to see what you make of having a table saw at your (safe) fingertips.
Ha! Special first project planned for a Christmas gift 😊
@@FixitFingers Now I definitely can't wait!
I just bought one today (in Melbourne), and apart from the manual and quick-start guide, there was one other thing in the box. The saw comes fitted with a riving knife for a 10" blade, but with the manual was a second riving knife for 250mm "European spec blades".
Oh yeah I forgot that bit! It sure does, so you can use 250mm as well as the 254mm blades safely :)
@@FixitFingers
I'm not sure how a blade 2mm smaller (i.e. the radius) needs a separate riving knife, but I guess that there must be some reason.
Me either! I think I read somewhere it has to do with the emergency brake system.
Well done. Looks like a cracker of a saw. Looking forward to seeing what you do with it. 👍
Me too...step one, remember that saw stops won't stop wood flying back in to your nuts at 100mph if you are stupid with it... 😅
Gratz James , All the goodies come to those who wait
Cheers Glenn. I'll be earning it, but very happy I waited until the perfect saw for me was available instead of rushing in.
Thanks for sharing I just placed my order waiting for the Fed-Ex delivery now
Hope you enjoy it mate. I've been running it for a year now, zero issues, no emergencies, plenty of power. It's been a great addition to the shop. Couldn't have built my latest project (an wall made from 5 years of offcuts) without it! :D
@@FixitFingers thanks for the reply I am going to get the stand as well for now
@@sflagg0817 I used my stand for a while, then built a rolling cart. Soon I'm going to make a dedicated workbench for it 😊
Great review !! It’s on my wish list. !! How good is the Carbatec store! This new table saw is a game changer.
Started my first project with it today that involved ripping a few thinner boards... mildly faster and more accurate than the old circular saw and edge guide on my ripping jig ;)
Mate great vid. I know you will love it. Just love my JSS but looking forward to seeing what you make with it!
Argh another JSS owner, you can take part in my impromtu quiz - How many times do you use a dado stack in it? ;)
Beautiful machine! Lucky to see it at the first sight in person! You are very productive mate! Fingers are safe from now on :)
Hahaha G'day Calvin, you got the first and best sneak peek! You are welcome in the workshop anytime ;)
Thank you.
You're welcome! Hope it was useful :D
Nice Job! Just bought the CTS today as it is my first table saw I am watching YT videos in preparation for my first cut. This thing will be helping me build a Sailboat!
We have a ice storm going on now!
Cheers for Ohio USA
That's awesome George. Dave Stanton has a very comprehensive set up video going into more blade adjustment detail if you're keen 🙂
Love it.
Thank you for the ongoing support guys. Can't wait to hook up the dusty and really get this thing going. Lots of big plans ahead.
@@FixitFingers Wait do we know you? 🤔😂
out of interest... the guy who rubbished the fence as a 'fatal flaw' has now corrected his video with the outcome being "I should have read the manual on how to adjust the fence correctly" ;)
Yahoo!!! Welcome to the saw stop fam bam James!! Congrats on a great piece of kit!!!
Thanks Ains, couldn't be happier. So glad I waited instead of getting something that was just too big I'd struggle to make it fit 😊
@@FixitFingers great idea. Now you can easily fit it and have all the added safety to go with it!!
Nice to see my job site saw’s baby brother put to the test. Very happy for you James. Congratulations on your new tools.
Out of interest and the key difference here... How often do you use the dado stack on it Paul?
@@FixitFingers Hey James, I've only used two blades standard, not required a dado stack yet!
@@longsplinter-paul cheers! This is what I think the answer is to people upset it doesn't take dado stacks need to think about...a lot of folks simply don't use them 😉
I have mine for 10 years best tool ever!
The JSS or a cabinet saw? Hopefully in 10 years I'll have upgraded to a bigger space and this one will be enjoying a new home 😊
Got mine today!
Nice! Upgrade or first saw?
The fence is identical to my dewalt job site saw. A few other things are very similar. I have a feeling they're made in the same factory
It wouldn't surprise me. That DeWalt is such a good unit I'm sure SawStop took a lot of 'inspiration' from it ;)
nice! finally, you got a table saw, James. Now the game will improve even further 😎 !
they say the tools don't define the quality of work... but at least it should speed up ripping things significantly! :D
Cherry popped, good stuff James
Only took me about 5 years... not one to be hasty ;) Cheers Ren
What a Cool saw, If this was available last year I may of considered it. If I'm ripping anything wider than 30 mm I use the blade guard. Now to have fun making slides and jigs
Cheers James that's a good rule of thumb for guard use. I very nearly bought the DeWalt on sale a few times... but glad I held off. When I saw Carbatec drop the promo-video for this last month, it was a sign I'd done the right thing and it was finally time :)
1:03. My dear Louise! And a SawStop, if you don't mind! I am so pleased, on your behalf! Enjoy!! Seasons Greetings to you and your family!
Happy holidays Jules! It's a good little early pressie ay? :D Wifey was happy when I showed her the Hotdog test too :P
Grattis till dej! Och lycka till med din nya såg!😃 väntar med spänning på fler filmer från dig😁 hälsningar från Kent i Sverige
Tack Kent! Jag har så många saker jag behöver göra nu. 2023 kommer att bli ett mycket hektiskt år i verkstaden :D
Hej Kent, kul att se dig har ocksa! Liten varld. Mat fran Australien.
@@Saw-IT I like that when I put this in Google translate it says "Food from Australia" 🤣🤣
@@FixitFingers Yes - my channel is woodworking for Swedish food painters.
A tragically under-serviced niche... someone had to step up and fill it! :D hahahaha
Sweet, I'm pretty jealous!! Love the non pretentious SawStoo/Ryobi combo! 😎
Looks like you could use an infeed table - Izzy Swan has a neat removable solution that might work for you.
Cheers mate. I've seen the Izzy Swan one... pretty cool. There is a *lot* I need to make now so expect a rather large number of jig, sled and upgrade videos over the next 12 months :P hahaha
@@FixitFingers The channel takes a 180 turn to be only about table saws... 😂
@@CrudeButEfficient hahaha it may come close to that for a while
Nice one James. The saw certainly looks the goods. It will be good to see what your thoughts after using the saw for a time. I looked at buying a Saw Stop saw but at the time the price was a bit too steep so I ended up sticking with DeWalt and in all honesty it's a damn fine saw. Anyway mate, I'll let you get back to ogling the new addition to your workshop. Keep up the good work. All the best, Brian.
I nearly bought the DeWalt several times over the years when it was on sale and I think it is no accident the CTS looks *very* similar, especially the fence. I was happy to put my cash on the table for this...but even happier to tell the wife that thanks to Carbatec's generosity I didn't have to 😅
If you do need to fix your fingers you can take a band-aid approach :-)
Hahaha this is true... though I will prefer not to have to buy a new break :P
Hey James, congratulations on the table saw. I've been waiting a bit to watch and comment because what I wanted to know is what do you think after a while of using it comparing to the years without it. As I'm in a similar place like you, also I try to justify the use of each tool I buy I feel sometimes I haven't yet explored all the abilities of the circular saw (for instances I still have to build the rip jigs from your videos :D ). Thanks for the video and the Jesper inspired intro.
Hahaha that intro took longer than the rest of the video. The saw I can't fault, it is everything I'd expect. However, as you have suggested, I don't find I use it as much as I'd probably have expected. I still find I go to the Accu-cut for big pieces and Mitre saw for cross cuts. However, it has opened a world of ripping and resawing I simply couldn't do without much fuss before. Once I get it built into a bench and make some sleds, I am sure it will be used even more often. I still don't think I _need_ a table saw... but you could say the same with most tools. I am glad I have it :)
Congratulations, you are now in the circle of table saw owners club,I thought DeWalt had a pattern on their rack & pinion fence system as that fence look's identical to the fence on my DeWalt 7491 and 7485 but I know Milwaukee have a battery powered Jobsite saw with the same DeWalt fence system as well may be that DeWalt is selling/ sharing the pattern for $$$$ looking forward to seeing you using it cheers mate 👍👍
The similarities are intriging! I wouldn't be surprised if they bought the rights to use the fence desgin, it looks identical to the DeWalt one that has been so popular. First project is planned, and it is meant to be a Christmas gift so best I get cracking!
@@FixitFingers you could be right, enjoy your new saw cheers 👍
James ! That was a great review for that Saw and it is interesting that I dropped a Carbatec / Sawstop review video on my Channel last night too. Unlike in your comments below, Carbatec are not going to post, "Love it" on mine LOL Perhaps that bolt could fit in that square hole if the other bolt was inserted and tightened at the same time? Any way it is good to have fixit fingers. Well tuned fingers are the most important tool in any workshop.
Ok I had to go over and check out your video first to see what all the fuss was about. Ouch... that is quite a bit of fuss! I tried a few ways to get the bolt in, it was only a mm out in alignment, easy enough in aluminium I suppose (compared to milled cast iron which is always perfect right? ;) hahaha you poor bugger. Glad it got sorted in the end! This little one will do me for a number of years I reckon.
@@FixitFingers your saw it sure looks like a beauty. 3x3Custom Tamar (the jig queen) has used a jobsite saw for years and she has made many fine things with it so this should serve you well. She recently upgraded to a Sawstop PCS and has not made anything better than before.
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Cheers Chris. Pretty great team they've got there at Carbatec right? ...except that Tony bloke 🤣
Nice one! I'm sure you'll get plenty of use out of that.
That is definitely one downsides of the jobsite saws. Their instant start up is definitely a lot louder than the cabinet saws. I was surprised at the difference when I swapped mine out for my current Delta saw.
I've no idea why they do that, my router has soft start and it fits in my hand, can't be that big of a deal? Then again I am a scientist not an engineer ;)
@@FixitFingers Well, engineers are also the one's that design things that require wrenches where a wrench doesn't fit so...who knows what they are thinking, haha
Congratulations dude, you've earnt it!!! PS I have some doll house doors that need cutting down, can you sort that 😉
Hahaha yeah she ain't built for 100 year old reclaimed barnwood trusses, but it'll do me for now 🤣
Hey James. Commenting prior to watching. I have been thinking about a table saw for the shed from the research I have done I was leaning towards this saw. Only problem is that it's not easily available in the UK at the moment. I am looking forward to seeing what you make of it.
I was wrong. It was the job site that I have been looking at. And continue.
Only arrived in Australia last week. I'm sure they'll have a UK plug version out soon. We're on the same voltage as you so should be easy enough for them.
@@FixitFingers I will be keeping my eye out for them. I would say there is a better chance of that one coming than the Job site as it has the option of the dado stack and that's not allowed in the UK (so I believe) great review and I am now jealous. 👍
@@CartersShed argh yes, the dado thing. I didn't realise the JS model never made it to the UK. Yes as this one is dado incompatible hopefully it has an easier time finding it's way there!
@@FixitFingers 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞
I'm absolutely stoked for you mate!! Awesome, what a game changer to the fixit Fingers space! Had me a bit worried when you bought a replacement brake, hope you never have to use it haha!! That bevel adjustment is next level, as much as I love my dewalt, the bevel adjustment is heavy, clunky and far from precise. I found that with all of them so was happy to compromise, however if this saw was available when I was shopping for mine, with the micro adjustment I'd have gone this way. Do you know if the cabinet saws are just as adjustable? I've not watched any videos on the big ones so I don't get saw envy haha
The extra brake is so if you do activate the safety stop, you can get back to work within a few minutes as the machine won't run without one. The course bevel movement is so fast, but you really do need to double check and use the angle finder every time you move it to ensure it's gone back to 90. I'm sure the cabinet saws are even smoother and more accurate but I honestly don't know if they have that fast adjust (probably a construction saw thing where speed trumps accuracy)
@@FixitFingers makes sense to me mate, of course with both wet timber and metal setting it off you don't want excessive down time. I always use my angle finder but it takes a few minutes to get just right some times and that micro adjustment looks the bizzo! Looking forward to your first build!
@@samsboringchannel interestingly small bits of metal shouldn't set it off apparently. The current interruption for a human is very different to a nail... I won't be testing this, but good to know :P
@@FixitFingers I had a staple that was a few mm from the blade that set off the brake one time, so it can happen. My "contractor" SawStop has a second crank knob for bevel, so it's slow to adjust. I still need to tweak it to 45 and 90 degrees each time. Overall I'm happy with SawStop. Lost the reticule, but it was no problem to order a new one. Then a month later it showed up - of course.
@@richs5422 Good to know Rich re staples, cheers! I'll still be using a metal detector over all my reclaimed timber before running it through. I've just started my first project with it and am enjoying learning how to use it.
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So if you use a metal L square.. I assume the machine must be off so that you dont trip the brake? I did read that it can cut through nails/staples without triggering.. I hope that's true though I have never cut thru nails with any saw. But IF it should happen I would hate to toss $200+ for the blade and brake system. But using the SETUP metal thingys (the ones that come on multiple mm/inch heights to adjust the height of saw).. not sure if brake system only works/activates IF the blade is turning? I'd hate to think you could be using a long metal ruler or something else, accidentally touch blade and have it trip the brake.
Yep so the break system is only live while the blade is moving. So you can use metal measuring tool to setup no worries as it doesn't kick in until you pull the big go button. However, it stays live after you turn it off for a few seconds during wind down so you need to let it come to a complete stop (there are lights next to the switch to tell you if the brake system is live). I've not hit any metal yet, but yes, you _should_ be able to go through staples and small nails as if they are completely surrounded by wood, they won't ground and don't have enough mass to trigger the current switch. If you are cutting metal or you are very suspicious of the wood you are cutting, you can temporarily override the brake so it wont fire off. Same with wet wood, before you cut, you can hold the wood up against the stationary blade. If the brake light starts flashing, it is wet enough to conduct and you need to let it dry or put it in override mode :) Hope that helps.
@@FixitFingers Oh that is cool.. I thought I saw someone do that somewhere.. maybe you did.. cant remember. But I did see some various lights. I thought maybe you had to bypass then cut and notice if the lights were going off. But very cool you can do it while blade is stopped and it will tell you. I assume then while stopped.. if you touch it with metal or your fingers it will show the light that indicates it would trip if it were spinning
@@b3owu1f exactly! I should have filmed that. Yes, if you touch the blade while stationary the lights go bonkers and start flashing super fast. It also wont start I believe if the lights are already flashing
Gday James, great demos and explanations. I also do not have a table saw yet so your vid has definitely helped me out. Keep up the great work 👍🏼
His advice is from someone who has never owned a table saw. Don't go a saw stop they're very expensive and you having to worry about spending hundreds for hitting a nail and setting off the safety feature which is overkill. It's a tool like any other, Use it safely and you'll be fine
G'day Nobby, I appreciate the counter point of view, it is good for people to get different perspectives. While it is true they are expensive, this saw compared to the leading DeWalt in the same class is only AUD$270 more, a small price to pay for something that could stop a permanent life-changing injury. You can turn off the safety if you are cutting reclaimed wood and you think there may be metal in there, and hidden nails/staples should not even set the brake off (current interruption for a small nail that is fully embedded in insulating wood is very different to a human body, the brake probably won't fire). You can of course get a little Ryobi or something _much_ cheaper, but then you won't match the power, accuracy or build quality. It's good to have options :)
Cheers RWC! I'll let you know if I find any issues with it after a few months of use. But as you are not only paying for the patented safety feature but also the build quality when you get a SawStop I don't think there will be many unexpected things go wrong.
Why can't I get a Mazda 6 wagon (estate car)? Stupid EPA?
Don't they import them to the USA? Shame, I love mine, won't be swapping out anytime soon.
Is the actual table top flat? I know my DW745 had a sag in the middle which meant when the blade was set to 90 it was actually cutting at 89 degrees. Apparently it's a known issue with the pressed metal tops.
Nothing a few good whacks with a block of timber and a mallet couldn't fix thanks to the advice from Ohyo56: ua-cam.com/video/-ZMNdr6IcZw/v-deo.html
Not perfectly! Using the digital angle finder I have gotten different readings in different places around the table. Only ever a tiny shift, but definitely not perfectly flat. It's the trade off vor weight vs a nice solid bit of cast iron I suppose. Thanks for the 'fix' link, I'll check it out!
No finger soup for you!
Hahhaha - It is a conspiarcy! I tried to stick my "Finger Soup" magnet on it... but it is pretty much all aluminium and wont stay put :P
@@FixitFingers haha bastards. Mine’s on my extractor, I look at it pretty every time I go to use a machine anyway…
Just got me one of those...will likely find it's way there too 😄
I think quietly shitting bricks when you use a table saw shows that you have a "regular" sense of self-preservation.
Hahaha... I just read 'shitting bricks' and assumed this was a comment on the Lego based build video I just published 🤣 But yes, even though it _shouldn't_ cut a digit off, kick back is still demanding respect!
Come on , can we see a real test at the speed of a person falling into a spinning blade.
Oh there are enough folks who have put actual finger tests on the Tubes! As much as I trust the tech, I'd rather not Riskit Fingers 🤣🤣
I did not mean you. Toss a sausage on at the speed of a person falling on the saw
@@peternatoli2555 hahaha the old sausage slap. I'm sure that's out there too...I'm too cheap to pay for the cartridge at $140 a pop 🤣
Welcome to the dark side
Took me long enough 😅
i am kind of a person who either goes cheap (but with ok quality) or goes high end (expensive...). in this case, the cheapest ozito has no review, the second cheapest ozito has bad reviews. So between this CTS and the dewalt 7485 ("only" $863).. thanks for the video. I have finally made my decision. Now just need to wait for a good deal.
I held off buying the DeWalt so many times over the years. I would come on sale and I _nearly_ pulled the trigger a few times. So glad I waited! The DeWalt is a great little saw, but if you are already spending that much, the few hundred extra for the SawStop was a no brainer for me. Enjoy it!