Dragon's Fury + Scorch Shot Combo Guide [TF2]

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  • Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
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    All music used is from Kirby's Dreamland 3 OST
    0:00 Intro
    0:55 Scorch Shot into Dragon's Fury
    2:00 Dragon's Fury into Scorch Shot
    3:39 Airblast into Scorch Shot
    4:37 Conclusion

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  • @listertf2
    @listertf2  3 роки тому +22

    check out my df frag video if you wanna see these in action :))
    ua-cam.com/video/8EVdDBH-51c/v-deo.html

  • @BenjaminSteber
    @BenjaminSteber 3 роки тому +165

    Also of note: the dragons' fury devours buildings. Take note medics, if you want to clear out a nest don't uber the heavy. Uber the DF pyro.

    • @mrshin8035
      @mrshin8035 3 роки тому +4

      if they're around

    • @overlord3481
      @overlord3481 3 роки тому +28

      or better yet, uber a demoman! not only does he put out more damage, but he's also more common in pubs

    • @BenjaminSteber
      @BenjaminSteber 3 роки тому +22

      @@overlord3481 a little bit harder today with the increased popularity of the short circuit, though.

    • @physicsman1270
      @physicsman1270 3 роки тому +3

      as a medic main when i see a medic ubering always a heavy to sentry nest i get cancer

    • @BenjaminSteber
      @BenjaminSteber 3 роки тому +6

      4:46 three shot a level 3.
      5:35 two shot a mini.

  • @Gofaw
    @Gofaw 3 роки тому +79

    This combo and the Dragon's Fury itself are being slept on

    • @kaiji4788
      @kaiji4788 3 роки тому +12

      It seems like a really strong combo, but unfortunately i feel like many people don't want to make a deal with the devil by using the scrutch shit (including me)

    • @Waddle_Dee45
      @Waddle_Dee45 3 роки тому +6

      @@kaiji4788 You can use the detonator, it's the scorch shot but you have to time it

    • @kaiji4788
      @kaiji4788 3 роки тому +4

      @@Waddle_Dee45 Unfortunately, detonator shot dont make the enemy bounces

    • @Waddle_Dee45
      @Waddle_Dee45 3 роки тому +1

      @@kaiji4788 Oh, I didn't remember that. Sorry!

    • @eclecticspaghetti
      @eclecticspaghetti 2 роки тому +1

      @Eating Danger And yet the Phlog is still a common choice...

  • @faceless403
    @faceless403 3 роки тому +35

    I didn't really think about using the scorch shot like this, clever also kirby's dreamland music nice~

  • @Spyko-
    @Spyko- 3 роки тому +67

    if only the DF wasn't also bugged to hell...
    the on-paper stats are actually fine imho (well the airblast CD might be a tad too much) but what really make the DF trash tier is a bug it have since JI: when the fireball collide with some other projectils (needles, arrows of any kind of rockets) it's hitbox just... vanish, the visual is still there but that's all that's left, it become an unusual launcher.
    but really nice video anyway, always love seeing people get creative with the Scorch Shot, this weapon have some huge combo potential

    • @listertf2
      @listertf2  3 роки тому +30

      i've personally only had this happen to me vs most projectiles a handful of times, but needles 100% wall out the DF and it's as hilarious as it is frustrating

    • @Gamemaster64
      @Gamemaster64 2 роки тому +8

      It got fixed now
      I know this comment is months old, but I'd like to let people know

    • @catbasedied5972
      @catbasedied5972 Рік тому

      @@Gamemaster64 Thanks. Glad I saw this.

  • @saucedealer
    @saucedealer 3 роки тому +30

    man the only buff this weapon needs, is a strange variant, that would really put the weapon onto the hands of players, but rn it's just too weak without that stat clock

  • @waffles9733
    @waffles9733 3 роки тому +19

    I realize that this combo is super effective, but i will still stick with the Detonator out of principle

    • @user-25352
      @user-25352 5 місяців тому

      What if they nerfed scorch shot's afterburn? so AoE hits only ignite for 2.5s max. This way it is weaker in "ignite multiple enemies at once" area, and also can't kill a light class with just 1 flare (if they get hit by it twice). Knockback is it's unique (among pyro secondaries) mechanic and should stay.

  • @lyra9597
    @lyra9597 2 роки тому +3

    Wow this video is surprisingly good! Subscribed. I am using Dragon's Fury quite regularly but I've never noticed how good it can be with the scorch shot!

  • @silverraven7671
    @silverraven7671 3 роки тому +8

    Cool video lad! Learned a lot! Thanks!

  • @pupkins000
    @pupkins000 3 роки тому +17

    I'm pretty sure that Scorch Shot don't just knock the opponent up on hit, it knocks opponent away from your position when Scorch Shot flare hits. So just like with airblast, if the vectors of enemy movement and your position, when flare hit the opponent, is against eachother then the opponent is just stays in place and gets knocked up a bit. Great video non the less! Im was using same build, even Powerjack for mobility since Scorch Shot lacks it compared to Detonator and Thermal Thrusters.

    • @listertf2
      @listertf2  3 роки тому +7

      you're right, but the horizontal knockback of the scorch is much less than that of the airblast. just dont use it against people that are already fleeing and you'll be fine

  • @ThisisTheTHE
    @ThisisTheTHE 7 місяців тому +1

    The dragon's fury gives you a rush of dopamine when you use it correctly

  • @ORBrunner
    @ORBrunner 3 роки тому +9

    ULTIMATE anti-M1+W Build

  • @Techhunter_Talon
    @Techhunter_Talon Рік тому +2

    How novel, a person who doesn't demonize the Scorch Shot and the people that use it. Not only that, mentions a decent pairing with it that isn't the Phlog.
    That said, I like using the Scorch Shot with the Dragon's Fury because it compensates for the fact that the Dragon's Fury has a recharging airblast. Usually, by time you use your air blast, switch to the Scorch Shot to shoot, and then back the Dragon's Fury is ready to airblast again. You can potentially stall an Ubercharge for a little bit or send either the heal target or the Medic somewhere to waste the uber.

  • @Seretheus
    @Seretheus 3 роки тому +1

    great tips!! great video! thanks!!

  • @nikoli5794
    @nikoli5794 2 роки тому +6

    I'm here cause of Verobey

  • @TheChaolinArmy777
    @TheChaolinArmy777 3 роки тому +6

    Another video that shows that the scorch shot is more then just a spam weapon but a combo tool, it even works well with the axtinguisher.

  • @captainsunshine1719
    @captainsunshine1719 2 роки тому +1

    You have made the scotch shot a respectable secondary, I applaud you.

  • @dorkablekid3661
    @dorkablekid3661 3 роки тому +5

    This is great, but I rather not make a deal with a devil.

  • @FBombFitzgerald
    @FBombFitzgerald 3 роки тому +1

    This was great! I'm gonna learn these techniques and try it out in a Tryhard Tuesday video. Thanks for the knowledge!

  • @expired267
    @expired267 3 роки тому +2

    Underrated stuff

  • @novi_xa
    @novi_xa 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you.

  • @helo4086
    @helo4086 3 роки тому +1

    Motivating.

  • @su9cp
    @su9cp 3 роки тому +1

    Love the Kirby music

  • @paladinslash4721
    @paladinslash4721 3 роки тому +6

    Watch Valve nerf this to hell because god forbid Pyro actually has anything viable.

    • @Gofaw
      @Gofaw 3 роки тому +2

      valve is never touching tf2 again pal

    • @_EmperorWaluigi
      @_EmperorWaluigi 3 роки тому +2

      @@Gofaw laughs in localization files

    • @overlord3481
      @overlord3481 3 роки тому +1

      you're assuming that valve will actually consider updating the game lol

  • @Sighlar1
    @Sighlar1 10 місяців тому

    it’s also worth noting that shooting the flare gun at the feet of a burning enemy, they’ll get launched too

  • @alpacaofthemountain8760
    @alpacaofthemountain8760 2 роки тому

    Great Video! Actually makes the scorch shot use skill

  • @Seretheus
    @Seretheus 3 роки тому +3

    also i love kirby

  • @eliascorrea8573
    @eliascorrea8573 3 роки тому

    Hi, lister! I loved your content you should totally do more.
    You misinterpreted how the knockback mechanic works!!!
    Here are two excerpts from the wiki that explain it better:
    "Hitting an enemy that is already on fire deals triple damage, so long as the middle of the "fireball" connects."
    "Additionally, if a fireball deals enough damage and hits a standing target in the legs, it is capable of launching enemies into the air in a similar manner to other explosive weapons."
    This means that to knock back an enemy you need to deal full damage, which doesn't happen at the third shot, but rather whenever the enemy is on fire *and* you managed to connect the center of the projectile. This caused me some confusion because it was rather inconsistent while aiming at the enemy's feet since he would be set on fire but not receive the full 90 dmg as the middle of the fireball hit the ground.
    TLDR; To knock back enemies set them on fire and aim at their kneecaps.

  • @snifflysara3065
    @snifflysara3065 2 роки тому

    I always did find the Dragon's Fury interesting; I picked up Pyro as one of my go-to's partly cus I really like their character, but also being chaotic while also a team player seemed really nice. Over time I saw that out of all their flamethrowers, the Dragon's Fury is one of the only ones besides the Plog that really changes your play style like the Huntsman or Gunslinger would.
    Speaking of, the Phlog is also meant to give a reward, an upside for you giving away your airblast but it probably just taught players to walk forward and attack whenever and help spread the view of w+m1. Maybe if they tweaked it so the upsides were more worth it and made it so people didn't demonize Pyro so much, encouraged you to strategize and such, it wouldn't be scorned or at least left in the dust so often.

  • @mrundy9351
    @mrundy9351 10 місяців тому

    Lol the spy in chat at 5:26

  • @grill6411
    @grill6411 2 роки тому

    I looked up this video after seeing a DF/SS pyro absolutely dominate a pub server almost singlehandedly

  • @joyceperalta9701
    @joyceperalta9701 2 роки тому

    i need this because if i am going dragon's fury pyro i need some instruction as a far ranged pyro so thank you i haven't got the dragon's fury yet but this is helpful

  • @mortykai.
    @mortykai. 3 роки тому +1

    I wonder if you can mini crit with the reserve shooter with the dragons fury by critting them into the air. The stats suggest it wouldn't, but It could be. And if it does, think of how much the general opinion about the dragons fury would change!

    • @OmegaRC59
      @OmegaRC59 3 роки тому

      It does not. I tested this as soon as I found out the DF knocks upward and it's really dumb. I still use the RS on occasion with the DF though in case I just need a reliable secondary with good range, it pairs pretty decent in case you find yourself struggling at hitting scouts reliably or whatever

  • @tonyf3431
    @tonyf3431 2 роки тому +1

    I always thought Dragon's Fury didn't need combos because it combos into itself.
    now I'm not sure whether I was wrong or whether I've learned the secrets of overkill

    • @listertf2
      @listertf2  2 роки тому +1

      if you had perfect aim, then yes, you wouldn't need scorch shot combos.
      these trade a small amount of missed damage in exchange for landing shots much more consistently (which equates to more damage overall for anyone that doesnt have near-perfect aim)

  • @theangeloflie
    @theangeloflie 2 роки тому

    This looks like a guide on how to be a pain in the ass

  • @Funkin_Disher
    @Funkin_Disher 2 роки тому

    Scorch shot strong. No big surprise.

  • @DJBlackNGold
    @DJBlackNGold Рік тому

    An actual method of the scorch shot being used that ISN'T braindead spamming into a choke. Honestly, this vid helps me respect the weapon just a little bit... Still gonna use the detonator or a shotgun out of principle though.

  • @nonameuntilifindanewone.6053
    @nonameuntilifindanewone.6053 2 роки тому

    I use the exact same of the Pyro arsenal at the start.

  • @chronicle7329
    @chronicle7329 2 роки тому

    i am sure someone has called it or said this before but idc.
    The Scorching Dragon.

  • @FreeBoulders
    @FreeBoulders 3 роки тому +4

    Why do you only have 12 subs?

  • @CoolSs
    @CoolSs 3 роки тому

    0:01 on release . i thought a nerf is needed for it . but Valve nerfed it hard .
    imo . if we will give it the old hitbox (or increase the current one) they should add an extra mechanics to it . here is my idea : the first target get 100% of the damage but any target that not the first being hit by the dragon fury projectile . get less damage (like 75%-50 i don't know which number is more balanced) .
    on release . i really really hated how i get so much damage from it when it hitting my team mate that is next to me . also they should make it airblast as fast as normal flamethrower but maybe cost more ammo to airblast .

  • @Banana-ko8we
    @Banana-ko8we 3 роки тому

    I had captains on and when he said scorch shot the caps said “Squirt shot”

  • @outdoggod7233
    @outdoggod7233 Рік тому

    Dragon's fury x flare gun combo guide when

  • @StahveySaid
    @StahveySaid 3 роки тому

    Subbing for more Kirby music!

  • @MarouaneTF
    @MarouaneTF 2 роки тому +1

    I wanna do this soo badly but i morally cant because i dont wannz use the scotrch shot agaisnt real players

  • @un-coglione-nostalgico
    @un-coglione-nostalgico 3 роки тому +1

    Who doesn't love stun mechanics in a fps

  • @yourboy9236
    @yourboy9236 3 роки тому +3

    You mentioned a triple damage type of shot with the dragon's fury. How do you do that

    • @listertf2
      @listertf2  3 роки тому +5

      any hit on someone that's already on fire deals triple damage (ex. the first hit does ~30, then the second one does ~90)

    • @pupkins000
      @pupkins000 3 роки тому +1

      @@listertf2 Not really "any", only center hits with DF fireball deal triple damage, off center hits deal standard 30 damage (maximum) and keep rate of fire increased.

    • @listertf2
      @listertf2  3 роки тому +1

      @@pupkins000 you're right, that slipped my mind

  • @an0nimogmud549
    @an0nimogmud549 2 роки тому

    The backscratcher is better than the powerjack

  • @zmyslowykalosz
    @zmyslowykalosz 2 роки тому +1

    Give strange dragons fury please

  • @kigokey4811
    @kigokey4811 3 роки тому +2

    Oh boy this wont be fun to play against

  • @Bridgeh111
    @Bridgeh111 3 роки тому +2

    its really op....

  • @gub4941
    @gub4941 2 роки тому +2

    Cool idea, unfortunately, it includes the scorch shot

  • @ryanroswellcacho
    @ryanroswellcacho 3 роки тому +1

    Please play more pyro dragon's fury please I use them all the time when I sometimes play pyro

  • @Strackypoo
    @Strackypoo Рік тому

    i got a god like kill streak with this then i got vote kicked :D but still fun to play with

  • @TheLegend-jr9ng
    @TheLegend-jr9ng 2 роки тому

    and they said scorch shot cant be skillful

  • @DL-SUFF
    @DL-SUFF 2 роки тому +1

    Using the scorch shot with Dragon's Fury 😄👍❤️
    Using the scorch shot with phlog 🤮💩🙄😒

  • @bibbly1571
    @bibbly1571 3 роки тому +3

    how do i do this in fortnite

    • @Xx_DoctorSex_xX
      @Xx_DoctorSex_xX 3 роки тому +3

      i ironically genuinely laughed at this comment

    • @KYS56
      @KYS56 3 роки тому +3

      *Insert tf2 good fortnite bad reddit joke here*

  • @tscock
    @tscock 2 роки тому

    To be fair, if you are using scorch shot, you don't really need the dragons fury, just spam that shit and everyone dies

  • @eggofwah4852
    @eggofwah4852 3 роки тому

    laugh at the scorch shot user

  • @danielsurvivor1372
    @danielsurvivor1372 2 роки тому

    0:07 No it wasn't.
    Damage was barely above rocket launchers, only problem is... THERE IS NO SPLASH DAMAGE.
    So it still took more skill then rocket launcher, and the fact Valve nerfed it so harshly is absurd, now it's harder to use then DIRECT HIT ffs.
    They added two nerfs to dragon fury, if they atleast remove -25% hitbox size, it'll be fine
    0:15 It's the fault of whiny people like you. Mini sentry is easy to use and practically meta on Highlander KOTH maps, but nobody cares about mini sentry. But suddenly Pyro gets a weapon that both takes skill to use and makes him viable and suddenly everyone wants to nerf it. Ever wonder why Pyro is never viable in comp? It's because of people like you. Same goes to Spy, Spy got some toys to make him slightly more viable(Dead Ringer and Amby, tho it only made him more usable in Highlander, not 6s) but then everyone moans about how "Dead Ringer and Amby are op"(how tf does a tool that let's Spy be more than just a one trick pony that dies after one stab OP???? How are we supposed to make Spy not die from one stab in competitive without dead ringer? Unless you ok with buffing Spy stats even further, Dead Ringer was the only solution, and now it's trash, just like Dragon Fury.
    My complaints aside, this video was actually pretty good, and quite useful for a small channel as you. Looking forward for other niche weapon techs.

    • @listertf2
      @listertf2  2 роки тому +2

      it was mechanically broken by definition seeing how it could hit people standing behind you
      also i never gave any opinion on the nerf itself. i think they went too far with it, as you said

  • @isthatagamer8844
    @isthatagamer8844 2 роки тому

    Too bad you can just use the scorch shot by Itself and be as effective, good video though