CrossFit Is Exercise Not Training - Starting Strength Radio Clips
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- Опубліковано 8 бер 2020
- Crossfit isn't training, however, it has does something nothing else has.
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Rip looks a lot like Teddy Roosevelt.
He just needs the glasses now.
One strong bull moose.
😂😂😂
He'd be a much better president than TR though.
My Tractor Guy preach
1st rule of crossfit.... ..........
Exact opposite of the 1st rule of fight club
lol I used to be one of them.....but now I am not.
LoL (and that's me as a CrossFit laughing... guilty as charged)
I know a gymnast who felt similarly about Crossfit's contribution to the fitness industry, only, rather than barbells, he was pleased that it has introduced so many to rings.
Crossfit definitely played a big part in my journey to barbell training and starting strength. I did one month of that bullshit and then realized I needed to quit, purchased a squat rack and barbell, started starting strength, got a coach, never looked back!!!
Crossfit got me off the couch at 48, dropped 50lbs of fat, put on 20lbs muscle and in best shape of my life at 51.
And I’m here for your seriously great squat and deadlift videos...good stuff.
shabblabbat wababbalat just leave your ego at the door when doing any kind of exercise/ training and boom, magic happens
Keenan Schouten one never knows. But at 48 I couldn’t run, now I can run 5 miles without stopping. Good changes.
@@6236003 injuries don't come because of bad form..
@Keenan Schouten moderate impact exercise has generally a positive impact on joint & bone health. Squat University has research on this subject.
@Keenan Schouten moderate impact exercise has generally a positive impact on joint & bone health. Squat University has research on this subject.
Chiropractors love CrossFit
sure! I ask my Chiropractor about that. He joked he make a living thanks to CF. lol
Orthopaedic surgeons love it too. Good money.
Omg this is so true
You're extremely kind, Mark, for giving CrossShit even the title of exercise. I think that's an insult to exercise, but that's me, and you're a bigger man than me in that regard.
Was surprised to hear Rip saying some positive things about crossfit. Even as a crossfit hater I do agree with his points. Rip, you're more adequate than 90% of UA-cam fitness community. And folks, please stop destroying yourself with cross shit.
You have to give the devil its due.
to confuse the muscles, do barbell curls in the squat rack
If I get a CrossFit membership does it come with a yearly anavar supply?
Serious Crossfitters don't just do Crossfit. The droves of people who go to do three random WOD's a week are just exercising. Its better than doing nothing.
You can simply choose 3 good workouts to do a week and progressively try to outperform yourself, even periodize them eventually... or be smart and just do some sled after your strength training sessions.
No it's not. Doing cross shit demonstrates zero gains but tons of injuries.
@@andyolli5812Everyone is liable to get injured carrying out exercise. I know Crossfitters that would eat you breakfast.
@TC W You know, people also have jobs and everyday activities to attend to.
Why should anyone feels the need to boost and overfill their training schedule to such degree, given also that they're not that young anymore?
Plus, as Rip said in the video, CF introduced barbell movments to many ppl. I think that's the best part of CF.
I live in Brazil.. most people here still do leg extensions, cable fluff and pec dec flyes. 99% of people never touch a barbell. Mindset is somewhere in the mid 1980s.
That’s everywhere bro. As Rip says in his book, gyms brought that in so that they didn’t have to pay anyone to teach customers how to lift.
Rip's claws are going into overdrive in this video.
As CrossFit enthusiast, I can say Rip is 100% right. I have to put in a lot of extra work outside of the programmed Workouts to ensure my strength development progresses. An average young healthy male with limited prior athletic training can go from squatting .5 ~ .75x body weight to 1.5x body weight on the high end with the normal CrossFit programming. But beyond that he'll have to start supplementing CrossFit with additional training
No
Crossfit makes you better at crossfit. That's about it. You get better at exercising.
is that so bad?
@@jfkesq you can run and do pushups if thats your goal
Bravo Mark.
I agree with a lot of CF criticisms but when I started CF about 4 years ago, I was easily in the best shape of my life. No, I was not a fitness newbie and was working out 6 days a week before then
I was working in northern Colorado around Loveland and everyone kept telling me crossfit was from that area and that firefighters came up with it
James Smith that would make since. But I bet it wasn’t random like it is now. They probably had a program. But a CrossFit style training without randomness would be great for first responders
People who take CrossFit seriously, do more than just the "workout of the day" or drop into a box for a random class. I train with Ben Bergeron's, Comptrain program. A majority of the program is strength training (squat, press, deadlift), where we add 5lbs a week similar to what Rip prescribes. We do a lot of strict pull-ups and handstand push-ups. We focus a lot on midline and accessory work. We practice our clean and jerk and snatch positioning and technique. Once we have done our strength session or technique session, we will do a metcon (WOD) using common Crossfit movements. We focus on strength and technique to not only help prevent injury but to improve our performance for a local competition or the Open or daily the metcon's themselves. Crossfit is criticized for many reasons; low barrier of entry to become a coach, people performing movements they are not familiar with, the seemingly random nature of the workouts and more. But with a reputable coach and program, Crossift is a great way to train for overall athleticism.
Overall athleticism can mean anything and cannot really be quantified as everyone has their own definition in mind. There are fat men running around on you tube that can deadlift 500+ pounds who call themselves athletes. Bowlers call themselves athletes. NASCAR drivers do as well i am sure.
When you train for strength, you quantify it with numbers on the big 3 (or 4 with the press).
When you train for e endurance, you can quantify with 5k and marathon times.
Those have a universally accepted meaning.
Crossfit is just doing a bunch of WODs for time and trying to beat records. The end result is you will lose weight and get better at crossfit, which is fine if that is the goal. These videos if crossfitters squatting heavy weights are misleading because they did not achieve that with crossfit.
The problem is guys that go around saying that Crossfit made them stronger and faster when the truth is that the supplemntal training made them stronger or faster.
If it’s programmed it’s not CrossFit. It’s programmed athletic training that someone has put under the flag of CrossFit.
I love practicing the snatch !
you are very good
Anyone heard of Klokov?
CrossFit. Doing complex exercises with horrible form as fast as you can. Then we wonder why we see so many fail videos.
"I'm and athlete, I play real sports. I'm not trying to be the best at exercising."
-Kenny Powers
Sensible advice.
CF took the limelight away from Bodybuilding. Which was great and is also in part why you see lifting stations at commercial gyms now. For that I’m grateful. That being said I’m glad a good sum of us have moved on from CF.
what if you're training for crossfit competition?
Don't blaspheme. Not if you want to stay in the SS cult. Fahves or nuthin'.
@@fabioq6916 You misrepresent what is said because you're ignorant. That's okay.
@@fabioq6916 I'm sorry uncle rip, I'll Press with hiyup drahve, I promise
@@ChernobylAudio666 touchy are we not? Yet to hear your definition of crossfit such that you can squeeze it to fit Rip's unique definition of training. Do you actually agree with RIP's definition in general?
@@fabioq6916 How is it Rip's definition? Training is something you plan and execute with specific parameters in order to meet a goal. How is this all of a sudden Rip's definition? It's basic dictionary stuff.
All the top "Crossfit athletes" at those "crossfit competitions" you see do not train crossfit because if they did, all the "training" leading up to the event would be "Workout of the day", aka, random workouts with no set plan of training goals...... how is this difficult?
Crossfit is "training". This isn't even debatable. Though it is certainly a suboptimal style of training for someone looking to improve performance in any specific metric. Rip's definition of "training" is completely arbitrary, and has no basis in the actual definition of the word.
I think You wont ever win a crossfit event by doing crossfit in a box . You have to train to develop strength, and speed, and oly lifts. You cant do that while doing crossfit. You first have to train, and periodically test yourself at crossfit event. On the other hand, you can get relatively fit while doing crossfit. But that wont get you a medal.
"in a box". .. stop right there
I work construction. the 3 dudes I've worked with who do crossfit are undoubtedly the most in shape, and productive workers I've met. it seems like they never fatigue.
it pains me to say it, but its very functional when applied to the real world.
Again, don't blaspheme in the cathedral of Rip's SS cult.
Until they get hurt from the random WoD they did the previous day. :)
@@fabioq6916 You excused yourself out of the debate when you brought up athletes training for Crossfit competitions. That's already not Crossfit, that's training. Also, those athletes don't use Crossfit to train for those competitions... because if they did... well... ah what the heck use is it trying to explain such simple stuff anyway... it's all emotions with you people.
@@ChernobylAudio666 define Crossfit then
@Like A God friend of mine was kipping in my garage and I thought he was having a seizure and couldnt let go of the bar.
Wouldn't it count at least as conditioning training?
MrPtrlix Yeah, expensive conditioning.
You could do sprints on the sidewalk in front of your house for free.
Conditioning without performance is useless. You do conditioning to be able to perform under cardiorespiratory duress, being fully oxygenated but without performance is senseless.
@@dafunkmonster Exactly, I used to do some modified burpees for conditioning in the past when I couldn't run and had no space, all you need is a floor.
Machines are just a good as barbell tbh
I look at all the old powerlifters and bodybuilders that are battling injuries and arthritis and i am very happy I made the switch to CrossFit at 50. Don’t get me wrong, I would have never done it in my prime. Moving big weight and being competitive is far too much in my DNA. Competitive CrossFit is about finding the guy with the best average. Power and Olympic lifting is about the strongest out there. But as you get older, you worry less about your total weight lifted and start worrying more about your bloodwork and other health markers. CrossFit is better suited for overall health and wellness. You just have to get past the ego stage of training
It's never good to do compound exercises with 90% of max heart rate. That's recipe for injury and very inefficient training too. No matter how you spin it. It's stupidity.
Started off with a planet fatness commercial!
There is a glaringly obvious problem with Rippetoe’s deadlift coaching and I think it’s about damn time he addressed it. When certain types of men do the deadlift the bar will try and occupy the same space as their gonads at the top of the movement. This is especially bothersome to those of us with short arms, big balls and long torsos. Sometimes the penis will protect the gonads, but only if one deviates from proper technique by not dragging the bar across the front of the legs. Usually what happens is the heavy steel barbell presses against the nuts or, in extreme cases, separates them from one another within their sack. I would really like to deadlift heavier without smashing my god damned balls up against my legs. What do?
Change your grip width ever so slightly to change your top position a bit. If your grip is all the way to the smooth you can always widen your grip to elivate the bar in the top position. It will make your rom slightly longer though.
Get good, brother. I too am cursed with a long torso and short arms and I haven't smashed my sack for months. Sometimes it does get stuck over the barbell and I just don't complete the lift. Some things are more important than lifting.
First good argument I’ve seen for lifting with crazy long arms! Thanks man!
Pull sumo.
Take a wider stance. If your balls are truly enormous, go to semi sumo or sumo deadlift. Or you could get on the juice and make them shrink :)
Hardly excercise either
You are wrong . Not random at all( if you are following a program).
Rip once was a crossfit seminar staff. :)
Does he really think Mat Fraser's or Tia's training is random? 2009 CrossFit is NOT 2021 CrossFit. Varied training is not random training. Look at all the programs out there. Non of them are random training. Misfit, Prvn, HWPO, Invictus, etc.
It's not called "Cross-strong, it's called Cross-fit. You can get "fit" doing it, but to do the workouts at the suggested weights or to compete you need to be strong enough. Having done modified CrossFit and seen main site programming I'd say its very hard if not impossible for an average person to get seriously strong doing main site cross-fit. Many boxes like my former one supplement with additional strength training but even that depends on the day you go and is somewhat random. I think most everyone should do crossfit for a month, quit, do starting strength for a year and then re-evaluate cross-fit as their "sport" but not their training method. It's a fun way to exercise and it introduced me to olympic lifts, I'm happy it exists. The gym I trained at was awesome and the people were cool. Starting Strength is superior by far for building a strength base.
Crossfit led me to Starting Strength. Is it so bad?
Good Lord, is Rip still beating this drum? His view numbers must need a boost.
True story... I am 52...5'10" 230ish...Bench 370...Squat 505...Deadlift 515...Clean 315. Never took anything. I Clean, DL, Bench, Squat, Row , Press and Pull. Thats it, lifting wise. I do a lot of sprint work because I enjoy it. That is basically what I have done for 35 years.
YOU ARE cross-fiter)
Muscles must be confused, vexed, disoriented, discombobulated. Haha
Should rename this practice the snatch.
Cross Fit(ards)....
Crossfitters mad
Is this why top athletes never do shit like starting strength and do more CrossFit similar strength and conditioning?
Crossfit is a form of skizophrenia!
Training - 1a : the act, process, or method of one that trains.
Train - 1a : to teach so as to make fit, qualified, or proficient
b : to form by instruction, discipline, or drill
2 : to make prepared (as by exercise) for a test of skill
Sorry Rip. . .get yourself a dictionary. You don’t define the word training or what it means.
Scott Dennis wrong
@@charliegrimshaw5997 I checked, and those are the definitions in the dictionary. Just because it doesn't fit your or Rips idea of the way things should be, doesn't mean you can change the mean of the words.
Strong does not equal fit. Fit equals fit. The goal of Crossfit, is (duh!) fitness. Being fit includes being strong. Fitness also includes being prepared for all kinds of other things. What fit is not, is having a bunch of extra body fat and only excelling at 3 exercises. Crossfit works if you do it right. The top Crossfit athletes have 375 C&J's, 500-600 lb deadlifts, can do an Rx Murph in less than 40 minutes, and pretty anything else you can think of. Rip, your comments on Crossfit are the equivalent of other's comments on your gallon of milk a day strategy. Outdated, misunderstood, and frankly ignorant.
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