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КОМЕНТАРІ • 83

  • @Account2129
    @Account2129 4 роки тому +28

    My skeleton has a crazy pump after watching this

  • @crucifixgym
    @crucifixgym 4 роки тому +12

    This is why I like Starting Strength so much, everybody looks big and strong because they are big and strong. Conversely, nobody looks like they’ll be in a male bikini pageant or on the cover of Muscle & Fitness anytime soon.

    • @crucifixgym
      @crucifixgym 4 роки тому +1

      ryan rogers 😂 I agree completely, that’s all diet. Rip emphasizes that eating in a calorie surplus and gaining fat is essential to getting strong. Dieting to look good for a few months will result in seeing the musculature that looks good. That’s my simple opinion.

    • @cliffonator1111
      @cliffonator1111 3 роки тому

      @ryan rogers I've also never seen a record breaking powerlifter credit starting strength or the Texas method. Seems to be a program that's good to get you started and then you should move on.

    • @IgnatiusCheese
      @IgnatiusCheese 3 роки тому +3

      If I needed a medeivel army I'd hit up a Starting Strength convention

    • @sharkwolf7788
      @sharkwolf7788 Рік тому +6

      @@cliffonator1111 it's almost like there's a clue in the name 🤔

    • @cliffonator1111
      @cliffonator1111 Рік тому

      @@sharkwolf7788 They could credit for getting started but it's almost like I also mentioned the Texas Method too.

  • @davidmorgan6282
    @davidmorgan6282 4 роки тому +49

    So you’re saying barbell training for strength is... functional??!!

    • @mr.monitor.
      @mr.monitor. 4 роки тому +4

      Why wouldn't it be? I assume you are joking?

    • @davidmorgan6282
      @davidmorgan6282 4 роки тому +1

      Mr. Monitor very much joking

    • @nashwilliams5852
      @nashwilliams5852 4 роки тому +6

      Mr. Monitor rippetoe has shit on “functional” training at pretty much every opportunity. So the guy was joking about his diction choice.

    • @marcourbina4890
      @marcourbina4890 Рік тому

      Off course, son!

  • @ggrthemostgodless8713
    @ggrthemostgodless8713 4 роки тому +9

    Yes!!!!
    "...all of our muscles are our favourite muscles..."
    That's it, MOVEMENT patterns, everything else falls into place!

  • @joaobaptista169
    @joaobaptista169 4 роки тому +7

    Boa tarde RIP, de Portugal, um seguidor devoto.
    Obrigado por partilhar a sua sabedoria com o mundo.

  • @a111oveWrldWde
    @a111oveWrldWde 4 роки тому

    Thank You! ✨😃

  • @gojuboxer4224
    @gojuboxer4224 3 роки тому

    This guy is AWESOME!!!🦍🦉💯🔥

  • @Alopkaable
    @Alopkaable 11 місяців тому +1

    4:16 this is so true. It feels so wrong to train 1 or 2 muscle groups per workout and leaving out the rest.

  • @fleggaroo
    @fleggaroo 4 роки тому +9

    Hi Rip just want to say thank you for your knowledge and programming as a former rugby player coach football player and very accident prone person I had a triple knee surgery everything but my MCL was completely torn my leg went backwards your program has made me stronger and your understanding of movement patterns versus muscle groups I would suggest your program to anyone I know yes I have a degree in exercise science which I have not used because you make the point it can be considered useless I do have a question though if you could answer it for me what should I do about my numbers on the squat and dead lift I feel that my cadaver ligaments can only handle so much and I’m at this breaking point of eating more gaining more mass so I could get bigger to handle more weight because I do wanna be stronger or just maintaining I would rather get stronger of course but my knee especially my LCL feels to swell upAfter my workouts I have upped my load to 5 x 5 versus 3 x 5 and hope in the near future to invest into your program as a trainer in Omaha Nebraska because I believe so strongly in what you preach thank you again hopefully I can make the podcast some day

    • @fleggaroo
      @fleggaroo 4 роки тому

      RIP

    • @CSheezy23
      @CSheezy23 Рік тому

      I relate to this also I tore my LCL while being strong at 205. Not being able to squat/ DL or Bench properly I lost 25lbs and tons of muscle once I recovered I ran the novice program and gained a 295 squat 465 DL and a 275 bench. RIP is a genius I recommend to all who ask

  • @reb00table
    @reb00table 4 роки тому +2

    It might sound insulting for Starting Strength, but this video also describes functional training.

  • @stergiossavvas5109
    @stergiossavvas5109 3 роки тому

    I'd like to know his opinion on 5x5, for young lifters of course.

  • @TheClearT.O-911
    @TheClearT.O-911 4 роки тому +14

    Ive had more gains by concentrating on the movement, and I thank you sir

    • @migueladrianvalevelazquez8703
      @migueladrianvalevelazquez8703 4 роки тому

      THE CLEAR T.O. Really

    • @TheClearT.O-911
      @TheClearT.O-911 4 роки тому

      @@migueladrianvalevelazquez8703 yeah for real.

    • @migueladrianvalevelazquez8703
      @migueladrianvalevelazquez8703 4 роки тому

      THE CLEAR T.O. You mean movement patterns

    • @TheClearT.O-911
      @TheClearT.O-911 4 роки тому

      @@migueladrianvalevelazquez8703 no, I mean ive added more weight and progressed faster with 3 sets of 5 then 5 sets of 5. no need to be a dick

    • @yettamon956
      @yettamon956 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheClearT.O-911 i experience it too. after doing split for many years so I give it a try. amazing result tho

  • @wreppar
    @wreppar 4 роки тому +1

    your funny 😁 asf mane enjoy listening 👂 to your show/podcast..

  • @sweetdreamscr
    @sweetdreamscr 3 місяці тому

    Thank you I just started training them all five times per week. It seemed weird to just train a goup 1 per week lol

  • @Rizzo2185
    @Rizzo2185 4 роки тому +2

    Which barbell exercise should I do to strengthen my bladder so I can stop pissing myself? This topic is not covered in the SS book

  • @mrsprinkles1641
    @mrsprinkles1641 4 роки тому +2

    I trained today and just did biceps and traps

    • @doubtingthomas9117
      @doubtingthomas9117 Рік тому

      Hey! That looks like one of my favorite routines-just add in calf raises, and you’re golden 💪🏼

    • @gsquared2394
      @gsquared2394 Рік тому

      You forgot lat raises for sets of 17.

  • @jeffriggins9106
    @jeffriggins9106 4 роки тому +1

    Not concerned with my lat spread?! Ugh.

  • @TheNietzschian
    @TheNietzschian 4 роки тому

    Clearly.

  • @jakobwing9660
    @jakobwing9660 4 роки тому +3

    As a represent of upper lower split I have to say I partially agree but not completely

    • @mr.monitor.
      @mr.monitor. 4 роки тому

      Most upper body workouts without using your lower body would be useless. Bench, OHP, standing curls etc all use lower body. All pulling rowing etc uses your upper body. How can you do a true upper lower?

    • @mr.monitor.
      @mr.monitor. 4 роки тому

      @@popcornto6032 maybe not if you only do one exercise per workout lol

  • @akhil1753
    @akhil1753 4 роки тому +1

    Train muscles through movements. #squathingehpushpullvpushpulllungescarry

  • @Abraham_Kist-Okazaki
    @Abraham_Kist-Okazaki 4 роки тому +6

    Just last week you were explaining that you eliminated front squats from the SS program because it eliminated the glutes and hamstrings from the lift. That to me sounds like you are, in fact, thinking about muscle groups in the formation of your program. Wouldn't it be more accurate to state that your approach avoids artificially isolating particular muscle groups in order to focus training muscle groups to work together to create force?

    • @ilyassvids23
      @ilyassvids23 4 роки тому

      Yeah i think ur correct.

    • @dariusgoatland10
      @dariusgoatland10 4 роки тому +4

      In reality, front squats were removed because doing the low bar back squat more often makes you stronger than dedicating time to front squat. This is the case due to the fact that the low bar back squat involves more muscle mass.
      The movement patterns that are utilized were chosen because they involve the most muscle mass across the longest effective range of motion, & this is important because that's how you become stronger.
      Involving more muscle in the movement puts more weight on the bar, more weight without altering technique makes you stronger. Ultimately, it is all about making you stronger. Using all of your muscle mass & incrementally increasing the weight you can move is how that is done.
      The argument rip made was why do a movement that neglects the hamstrings & glutes - thus reducing the weight on the bar & the potential strength that can be gained - when you can very easily involve both muscle groups by altering your technique?

    • @Abraham_Kist-Okazaki
      @Abraham_Kist-Okazaki 4 роки тому

      @@dariusgoatland10 In reality, I am uncertain as to the point you are trying to make.

    • @aumurphy
      @aumurphy 4 роки тому

      Agreed. Also consider the fact that they use overhead press without legs instead of push press because they need a movement that is focused on the upper body

    • @dariusgoatland10
      @dariusgoatland10 4 роки тому +1

      @@Abraham_Kist-Okazaki They removed the front squat because it doesn't make you as strong as low bar squatting more frequently does. The reason for this is because the latter utilizes more muscle but that comes secondary - the goal is to make you stronger & muscle is irrelevant beyond its capacity to assist in strength progress.

  • @jippmaster1436
    @jippmaster1436 10 місяців тому

    I dont care what rippetoe says i will never stop isolating my rear delts

  • @CSheezy23
    @CSheezy23 Рік тому

    Overall run this program. Novice helps your form and gain strength on big 3/ 4 including OHP. Gaining strength increases muscle building. Whose has more muscle a guy squatting 405-495lbs fir 5 or someone who does leg extensions 3-5x8-1 lol it’s obvious 😂

  • @tmac21889
    @tmac21889 4 роки тому

    Hey RIP! You need to get some sleep my friend.

  • @dimpsbiliou5478
    @dimpsbiliou5478 4 роки тому +1

    Rip the best.

  • @VegetoStevieD
    @VegetoStevieD 4 роки тому +6

    Rip, you're as sharp as a marble, and as handsome as you are smart.

  • @billsmoke4198
    @billsmoke4198 4 роки тому +1

    You alright, Rip? You look a bit shakey at the start.

  • @bigt9905
    @bigt9905 4 роки тому +8

    Bodybuilding: the worst thing to happen to the concept and promotion of weight training for health.

    • @hunterraoulduke
      @hunterraoulduke 4 роки тому +1

      Its not really bodybuilding, its the ignorance of people and their inability notice good info. Yes the image bodybuilding cast over it does over shadow true fitness and health so you are right to big degree.

  • @rustyblade9366
    @rustyblade9366 3 роки тому

    Woah there Rip, you almost called barbell training "functional training", chill... don't scare me like that again

  • @hoorayimhelping3978
    @hoorayimhelping3978 4 роки тому

    i think you're talking about systems thinking, rip. this is a really great video about it ua-cam.com/video/OqEeIG8aPPk/v-deo.html

  • @marcusdowell9062
    @marcusdowell9062 4 роки тому +1

    Oi Rip you should focus on fat groups... like the fat on your belly, I suggest you do AB workouts to do targeted fat loss on your big fat belly... I would love to see you use an AB wheel, it would be amusing... hehe

    • @rustyblade9366
      @rustyblade9366 3 роки тому +3

      Your comment was so lame it won't even make it on a "coment from the haters" segment.
      Unless you're just joking of course.

    • @marcusdowell9062
      @marcusdowell9062 3 роки тому

      @@rustyblade9366 lol... I was very saddened that it did not go on "commentzzzzz frommmmmm da hatazzzzzzz"

  • @joebot9309
    @joebot9309 4 роки тому +2

    That's why posers don't squat and deadlift.

  • @BigUriel
    @BigUriel 4 роки тому +2

    "We don't think about muscle groups"
    It show, nobody on SS looks like they lift lol

    • @ChaostotheVII
      @ChaostotheVII 4 роки тому +3

      Yes, surpisingly people on a novice strength training problem dont have a significant ammount of muscle mass yet.

    • @dragonfireshield1976
      @dragonfireshield1976 4 роки тому +2

      @@ChaostotheVII He's talking about the starting strength coaches and stuff. hes not talking about the people doing the program.

    • @BigUriel
      @BigUriel 4 роки тому +2

      @@ChaostotheVII Hardly anyone on SS has a significant amount of muscle mass, from the novices to the peope who've been with them for years to the coaches.
      If you're been lifing weights for a couple of years and you can squat 4 or 5 plates but you don't look like you lift, you're probably doing something wrong. Unless you literally don't want to look like you lift but that's a very small minority, nobody minds looking good even if that's not their main goal.
      And it's a shame because using SS as the basis you can perfectly well build a decent body by just adding a few accessory lifts for a bit more targetted volume here and there, but unfortunately with this "we don't think about muscle groups" mentality and their minimalist approach to volume and assistance exercises most people in it seem to think that adding half a dozen sets of lateral raises and dumbbell curls per week will somehow ruin their training and they'll stop getting stronger on the squat for it.

    • @milanpetrovic9556
      @milanpetrovic9556 4 роки тому +3

      @@BigUriel
      So, following your logic, majority of the Olympic weightlifters are doing something wrong too? Because most of them have belly, no chiseled pecs, no visible abs... ( I'm not talking about those in 61 kg class)
      Yes, there is that deplorable "minority", myself included, that lift without taking fifty selfies every time they step in squat rack. And don't give monkey's ballsack if their waist is exactly 45% of their height.
      I'm 55 and started SS three years ago desperately trying to do something about the back pain that almost made me quit my job. And never looked back. Every morning when I get out of bed (without clenching my teeth) I thank God and Rip. And that is my story.

    • @g-mannG
      @g-mannG 4 роки тому

      @@milanpetrovic9556 Amazing! 🙌

  • @CSheezy23
    @CSheezy23 Рік тому

    Only muscle groups I train specific are the hips by performing hip thrust (with your girl) on Fri-Sun. Other then that just pure strength with a BB 🫡😤😂

    • @CSheezy23
      @CSheezy23 Рік тому

      @@user-ln3jy4oc9t when you knock on a door it’s a polite bang like bang it 2-3 times for fun 😂

    • @Kripton764
      @Kripton764 10 місяців тому

      And here I was wondering where the hell my bar on Fridays and Sunday.