Yueyang Is A Torpedo Beast Now!

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  • @billwalker9509
    @billwalker9509 2 роки тому +61

    Yueyang is actually an Allen M. Sumner class DD which preceded the Gearing class. They did the bulk of the radar picket duty around Okinawa (remember the Laffey?). I actually built an RC boat of Sumner from plans back in the early 1970s. Still got that plan book in storage. iChasegaming did a video on the class back in October 2014.

    • @Joshua-fi4ji
      @Joshua-fi4ji 2 роки тому +2

      Was going to say this. It's basically a Fletcher hull with a different guns setup.

    • @jadeorbigoso5212
      @jadeorbigoso5212 2 роки тому

      One of that Class is that the ship who fight 52 Kamikazes

    • @emmanmillare3442
      @emmanmillare3442 3 місяці тому

      ​@@jadeorbigoso5212as mentioned by @billwalker9509, i think that was the laffey

  • @fatmarlin4674
    @fatmarlin4674 2 роки тому +36

    As a casual observer and a non player, I love how you're always trying to find the positive aspects of every ship. You're displayed attitude is what keeps me coming back to watch a game I have no interest in playing but really do enjoy the the matches you show. Win, lose, mistakes, perfect, ECT, I enjoy your channel and the cerebral explanations of what, where and why decisions were made. Cheers!!

    • @fatmarlin4674
      @fatmarlin4674 2 роки тому +1

      @@nephalos666 as someone who doesn't play, Cv's and subs shouldn't be in the game. They ruin the watching experience and destroy balance of play. There's nothing positive to be found. Just weak players who have no imagination or tactics. I see no reason to respect those classes. As an outside observer, they really are broken and shouldn't be admitted into gameplay. They just allow weak players to remain weak and develop no skill all while letting that player think they are useful. Not sorry if that fact bothers you. The truth is uncomfortable for those who deny it.

    • @fatmarlin4674
      @fatmarlin4674 2 роки тому

      @@nephalos666 I see we found a useless sub/cv player. So quickly to dismiss opinions because they don't agree with you. You can claim my opinion doesn't matter, but as a consumer of entertainment, it matters more than yours. I'm the audience, you're a participant. If the audience can't have a valid opinion on entertainment, who are you suggesting the videos and entertainment is for? Certainly not for participants, it's for the audience. And when a participant attacks the audience, the audience knows who's useless and lacks the self awareness of their own utility. Cheers for being useless. Cheers for proving you can't be taken seriously. Way to try and gatekeep something you don't have control of. What a laughable joke. Can't deal with someone else's facts that point out flaws in yourself, better just disregard them, they are just the audience, they definitely don't have the outside perspective and can see things as they are. Take the blinders off, you'll appear less moronic, which you obviously need help with.

  • @rjcolombe
    @rjcolombe 2 роки тому +39

    Instead of going all in with another gimmick, couldn't they have just returned the ship back to its renerfed state?

    • @billwalker9509
      @billwalker9509 2 роки тому +5

      Do you mean pre-nerfed state? The best was right after they came out with the Lengendary Upgrade. After that it started going downhill, nerfing the ship so the LU was basically non-existent.

  • @AH-pq7yw
    @AH-pq7yw 2 роки тому +9

    The other way I am using that TRB is launching second sets right behind the first ones wheb hydro BBs push with hydro active. They go full speed and slow down to dodge first sets of torpedos, but then second half hits them hard because BBs can't slow down and accelerate quick enough.

  • @jugaloking69dope58
    @jugaloking69dope58 2 роки тому

    might have to try it! pretty much stopped playing so i researched most of my t10s more casual/ daily login player now. only have the des Moines and Kleber/Marceau lots of t8-10 prems i just yolo and have fun in now

  • @gblowe62
    @gblowe62 2 роки тому

    Me and our clan comander took our YY out held or pushed a flank back. 3 for 4....
    So much fun again.
    Full torp build.
    This will be a beast in comp now.

  • @dimzzywotblitz
    @dimzzywotblitz 2 роки тому +2

    Never played it as a torp boat; I'm using legendary mod and it was totally fine.

  • @Allessir1999
    @Allessir1999 2 роки тому

    There is a counter to DWT that any BB can use. That raises the detection range of them greatly

  • @randomguy555
    @randomguy555 2 роки тому +2

    They might not be able to hit DDs, no, but they sure as hell give me a heart attack when I see a wall of skill appearing out of nowhere to my broadside DD, before accepting my fate, watching the torps... go right under me? ...and then feeling like an idiot for the rest of the game.

  • @general_alexus2533
    @general_alexus2533 2 роки тому +3

    The legendary mod increeses your DPM by 20% and also consumable time by 20% for loss of 10% Cammo (5th slot), but if you play it with Radar (you push radar to 40sek time) you still stealthradar so I think this might be a realy good built now.

    • @vitezslavlorenc3479
      @vitezslavlorenc3479 Рік тому

      Yeah I use this radar build in ranked. In random, smoke without Legendary mode is better.

  • @HoshikawaHikari
    @HoshikawaHikari 2 роки тому +2

    This question suddenly came to mind, since deep water torps don’t hit DDs, will DD wrecks block them?

  • @Y0urricane
    @Y0urricane 2 роки тому +4

    I think Chung Mu could be much more interesting choice, she was better than Yuyang before and should be easier to play now (radar boats on tier 9 are much weaker and have less dpm, u can easily dodge their salvos)

  • @NotTheRookie
    @NotTheRookie 2 роки тому

    What about legendary mod YY? It's 5th slot and buffs the reload on the guns, with the 6th slot gun reload module you ge pretty good gun dpm

  • @sailorsteve56a
    @sailorsteve56a 10 місяців тому

    would love to see what you thoughts on this ship with the new Unique Upgrade that reduces the main battery reload by 18% and adds 20% to either the radar or smoke!

  • @pritamsaha9758
    @pritamsaha9758 2 роки тому

    Could you give review on z 39

  • @maxmustermann1111
    @maxmustermann1111 2 роки тому +1

    I absolutely enjoy the change.
    The old DDs, especially the "american based" ones have been heavily power crept.
    Smoke over the years lost a bit of its value (in solo play=, since the ammount of long range radar and DD radar increased massivly. Not having a heal these days on a DD is also a huge weakness. The passive meta nerfs torpedo boats quite a bit and makes gunboats or hybrid boats the better choice. The guns ones were nice, but get outperformed by other hybrid ships like daring or smalland. The maneuverability isnt great either.
    Somers might have been an exception for quite some time due to the ability to tripple stack torps while also being able to lay walls of skill. Same with shima. But overall, in "the ranking" they dropped kinda low.
    Now YY has a place again. They dont act like the guns are a mentionable trait of the ship anymore. It is now a specialized and VERY deadly torp boat, that can absolutely murder flanks if left unchecked. On the recieving end in normal games it can feel a bit unfair, since when your team sucks and you are in a BB, you can just randomly die. However i do think thats fair game. YY needs to be very strong in its nieche (fighting cruisers and esp BBs) to compete with the other more realible and consistent counterparts. Wich i think it does now, i feel its a very playable DD again.

  • @caa4118
    @caa4118 2 роки тому +2

    A better torpboat than Shimakaze for those who don't wanna spend FXP for Hayate or can't get Somers/Benham

  • @certifam2623
    @certifam2623 Рік тому

    These boats are Broken OP

  • @zlpatriot11
    @zlpatriot11 2 роки тому +1

    Yueyang buff: "Yeeeet!"

  • @Obertsai
    @Obertsai 2 роки тому +1

    Need a atlantico guide

  • @Rose.Of.Hizaki
    @Rose.Of.Hizaki 2 роки тому

    Buffy the Yueyang slayer.

  • @jozzz8893
    @jozzz8893 2 роки тому

    Remember today’s hydro is surplus, but still huge improvement and makes shima and jinan relatively weaker.

  • @davict97br
    @davict97br 2 роки тому +2

    What i can take from the video is that Elbing is massive sausage

  • @yareyare6441
    @yareyare6441 2 роки тому +1

    Please try Mecklenburg pls

    • @RonnieRampants
      @RonnieRampants 2 роки тому

      Think he mentioned that he needs more steel and to wait for the coupon to come back (about 20 days)

  • @death007007
    @death007007 2 роки тому

    not sure how you say 5.8 on concealment, its base is 7.4, subtract 20% and you have 5.92... what am i missing lol?

  • @doods7566
    @doods7566 2 роки тому

    Lol I see. Last night I or my teammate detenated 2 battleships in 40 seconds lol

  • @Ensign_Cthulhu
    @Ensign_Cthulhu 2 роки тому +1

    I had always wondered if WG would "buff" the YY by making her a coal ship and putting a Gearing hull in her place once they were done revamping the US DD models. Turns out they went this way instead, just when I was almost done with the grind to unlock it!!!!
    The silver lining is that I kept the Hsienyang and Chung Mu, and they get to benefit as well. Unable to hit destroyers though the torps may be, this is a straight up buff with no new downside.

  • @draz1556
    @draz1556 2 роки тому

    nice

  • @MenGamer127
    @MenGamer127 Рік тому

    1:02
    Wrong… Yueyang is an Allan M. Sumner class, the main difference being the bridge, early Allan M’s had an enclosed bridge like late British destroyers, while all Gearing’s had a more square bridge with a walk way in front. I know this doesn’t really matter but I’d just like to point out, no offence.

  • @michaelwilliams3232
    @michaelwilliams3232 Рік тому

    I wouldn't bother buffing torps in commander skills, focus on guns, guns, guns. Take LegMod and go forth! Oh and radar too.

  • @Dik131WZD
    @Dik131WZD 2 роки тому +3

    Chung Mu is even better, because of the tier and higher speed
    And RLS became better

  • @dieunhiong2645
    @dieunhiong2645 2 роки тому

    Hay quá

  • @tiemonvandervegt5013
    @tiemonvandervegt5013 2 роки тому +3

    The problem is still the grind towards this ship

    • @JimBlock999
      @JimBlock999 2 роки тому +1

      I enjoy all pan-asian dds from Tier V to X, though Chung Mu nowadays has a harder time because she has to face Super ships and subs in most of her games. However that's a problem all Tier IX ships have.

    • @mynameiswritinwater
      @mynameiswritinwater 2 роки тому +2

      Was one of the more enjoyable DD grinds I did - only weak point was the Hsien Yang for me but YMMV. much more fun that the pan-Europeans or the current Italians

    • @tiemonvandervegt5013
      @tiemonvandervegt5013 2 роки тому +1

      I stopped after the ghadja mada a long time ago. After these comments i got the hsienyang and am currently having a blast actually. Perhaps the time then was wrong or my playstyle, but now im having good fun!

    • @JimBlock999
      @JimBlock999 2 роки тому +1

      @@tiemonvandervegt5013 Hsienyang was my favorite before regrinding the line, just got to it again and I'm eager to play her with the reload booster. Had some fun with Gadjah Mada, wish she would've gotten the booster also.

    • @mynameiswritinwater
      @mynameiswritinwater 2 роки тому +1

      @@tiemonvandervegt5013 well Hsien yang now has the reload booster back then one was basically stuck with a Benson with slow Deep Waters torps

  • @michylogos4612
    @michylogos4612 2 роки тому +4

    I like this ship

  • @halostryke
    @halostryke 2 роки тому +2

    WG nerfed YY bc it was both a good gunboat and had radar.
    i firmly stand that YY should have been nerfed by having a second hull with sub par gun performance with radar or the regular hull as it was (minus radar).
    WG are clowns for this nerf.

  • @desert7868
    @desert7868 2 роки тому

    Its actually called the YourYang. Is That Good?

  • @krestonkurotani3231
    @krestonkurotani3231 2 роки тому +3

    now just give it back the guns...
    doesnt need to be much
    3.5 is good too

  • @Ace42x
    @Ace42x 2 роки тому +5

    Disagree with "don't run radar in randoms" - Chung Mu's ability to bait out a smoke, then radar-and-punish when they've blinded themselves is free kills and free control points. It's nimble enough, and its AA tolerable enough, for CV bullying to be less of an issue than blinding yourself and getting aircraft camped in your own smoke is.
    I've got a video on my channel of me top-scoring vs double-CVs who tried to focus me, for example.
    The line's gunpower's enough to beat most torpedo boats, and on a par with a typical hybrid; and you can perma-spot pretty much anything that outguns you, especially if you've buffed radar duration. The extra efficacy a torpedo reload booster offers is just free bonus power on a line I already had over 60% winrates on. It certainly makes fire-farming from smoke far less important when it comes to damaging battleships and cruisers.
    Legendary mod complicates the picture, but with reload mod gets YY gun reload's down to a respectable 3s, which matches a full torpedo build gearing - although he will comfortably outspot you with no concealment module on your YY - making radar usage a bit more of an issue, albeit one that becomes a non-issue if a team-mates baits out his smoke on your behalf.

    • @JimBlock999
      @JimBlock999 2 роки тому

      At first I thought this wouldn't work because Chung Mu's radar is in the same slot as the smoke and thus cannot use both, but then I understood you're suggesting to use the smoke of another ship. In general I agree, this tactic can be extremely effective, however I guess this gameplay needs a more skilled player than most are (and more skill than I have for sure). Also, for me giving up the fine 5 (or 6) smokes really hurts, because with that many I'm way more open to lay smoke screens for my team - and be less annoyed when they completely ignore them by yoloing through.

    • @Ace42x
      @Ace42x 2 роки тому +1

      @@JimBlock999 You're probably selling yourself short - just rock up to a CP nice and early.
      While you're sailing there (and while you're waiting for match to start) figure out what the radar threats are and how your detection and gunpower matches up to the enemy DDs'.
      Push up just far enough to make sure your concealment radius is a little inside the CP's perimeter so that if an enemy DD pushes into it you've got early warning and know almost exactly where they are.
      Then figure out how important it is for you to premptively angle: If you're RPFd then you might get blind-torped so need to get into kiting position, and you can just reverse towards the enemy DD to light him up.
      Ideally you'll spot him before he spots you, and you just manage your range to keep him perma-spotted until he panics and smokes up - at which point you turn around, get your guns and prediction all ready - then radar and delete him.
      Depending on how confident you are (how much support he has, how likely they're to hit a fast moving chung mu from their ranges, what sort of gun power he has, if he eats some big damage from team mates, etc, etc) you can then just assassinate him - a free control point and a deleted destroyer is usually enough to guarantee a 50-50 winrate even if you don't do anything else all game.
      The one element of playing around the enemy DD that requires a degree of skill is judging when it's safe(ish) to sail broadside to them, as that's the easiest way to finely control your range and thus keep them permaspotted whilst you stay undetected - if they back off you can turn in towards them to maintain vision, if they try to push you, you turn out and speed away - but obviously broadside is greatest risk of you eating torps, and you're circumstantially vulnerable if you get spotted (although Chung Mu's often nimble enough to just quickly turn away if you accidentally get spotted anyway).
      Then you just need to play around any enemy radars (bait it out with perma-spotting, and then kite out of its range or if it's short duration, just juke until it wears off), and once that's out of the way, you're free to delete anything else from stealth with torps, maybe light some fires from behind island cover if the opportunity arises (or just open water gunboat at long range if you can traverse-grief a pinned down static enemy).
      Even if CVs try to grief you, you can just waste their time while your CV farms a win for your team.
      The smokes are nice for making hardcore use of the Du Rong CO's improved fire starting skill; but team-mates aren't going to do squat to maintain vision for you, so you're going to frequently blind yourself and team to try and make use of it. Smoking for team-mates tends to be a mess anyway - blinding them isn't great, battleships won't want to miss up the chance of dev-striking the enemy just to preserve undetected, and smoke is a giant torpedo magnet anyway - so unless there's guaranteed zero torpedo threat, it's often going to be more risk than it's worth.
      Most cruisers who can make use of smoke won't want to for fear of getting blind-fired, or worse still stranded in open water when the smoke expires - much safer to use their own cover behind islands which they'll have control of. And, of course, there's the prospect of someone like me rocking up in their Yueyang and radaring your smoke so that their team just delete the totally parked static ship trying to hide in it.

    • @JimBlock999
      @JimBlock999 2 роки тому +1

      @@Ace42x Thanks, I will give this approach another try. My first ones with a pan-asian radar dd weren't that good, I guess I just have to adjust and commit more. But I already know I will miss my comfortable five smoke screens. 😊

  • @meganmurphy7671
    @meganmurphy7671 2 роки тому

    Well the yueyang’s fire chance isn’t that bad. The Minotaurs have 0% fire chances because it only fires ap bullets (This is just Main guns, not secondaries)

  • @midend
    @midend 2 роки тому

    Uss Hayns worth, a sumner dd, not gearing class

  • @Airbone
    @Airbone 2 роки тому

    Since yueyang has torpedoes reload booster, some old ships like zao with 20km torp will be a good buff (or at least 12km torp with japanese's torpedo alpha dame and normal torp detection range). I still like zao's ninja-like fighting style, stealth, strikes then run (although venezia can do better now). So instead of providing things like health, armor or dpm. I'd rather have the extra alpha dame and the chance to use it.

  • @crandydandy
    @crandydandy 2 роки тому

    if you didn't know, gearing is actually incorrectly modeled in game, its too wode

  • @waffle3632
    @waffle3632 2 роки тому +1

    Honestly it bother me that this think can exist. I hate tier X matchmaking. I want to brawl, but I have no chance of that when I can be spotted by a CV from anywhere, torpedo by DDs and subs, and He spammed almost 18km away. If you want to play battleship you have to play at range with the slow campy playstyle, or bring Schlieffen. C. Colombo needs a buff, not this ship.

  • @Oberkaptain
    @Oberkaptain 2 роки тому +1

    Run legendary mod or no balls.

  • @ChristopherSloane
    @ChristopherSloane 2 роки тому

    The game is sooo much pure fiction. Simply the power creep is disgusting. There is no hope for your hard earned tier 10 boats to be upgraded to deal with the changes. For that matter any of your ships.

  • @davidpotts7116
    @davidpotts7116 2 роки тому

    Great… another dd that just relies on walls of skill. Just what the game needs aside from more HE spam

  • @46jerdboy
    @46jerdboy 2 роки тому +1

    hates on the pan asian cruiser across multiple videos, commenting solely on the guns, then talks about how great YY is now while ignoring that the cruiser has twice as many of the same torps...

    • @AH-pq7yw
      @AH-pq7yw 2 роки тому +2

      You know YY has 5.8 km detection while Jinan has 9.8 km. So, It doesn't matter you have twice as many torpedos. If you can't reposition safely and fast enough to launch from better position, it sucks.

    • @Descolata
      @Descolata 2 роки тому +2

      YY is more survivable, more stealthy, and maneuverable. Jinan cant turn or speed juke enough to survive, and must launch torps at 10km, so 40 torps end up spread out. Especially with how long it takes to turn to get off the other rack.

  • @mr.eggplant866
    @mr.eggplant866 2 роки тому +1

    They keep doing this on purpose to make you go back and forth spend more money and time... just leave the damn ships alone.

  • @cuongtrancuong52
    @cuongtrancuong52 Рік тому

    Hay quá

  • @muame5225
    @muame5225 2 роки тому

    Hay quá