I use the thermal bore a lot. Mostly to drop cashout, destroying bridges and cranes, clearing goo and poison, and creating inconvenient holes in the floor of doorways.
facts. I always drop some behind me after closing a door getting chased and when they set it off and I start pewing them, it’s almost a guarantee elim. Also gas mining a a cashout box defensively is a great way to keep opponents at bay and stalling. I’ve won tons of games by people not being able to touch the box while i’m fighting somewhere else hahaha
Pyro mine is the most underrated heavy gadget. You can plant on point to stall steals, plant on enemy trophies (you'd be surprised how many people fall for this), place at feet when retreating to catch chasers off guard.
All mines are very good if you play patiently. If your trying to top frag, it isn't super useful. But, if you play set up, especially with medium, you can confidently protect the cash out solo.
this, in cashout you might have to defend against all 3 enemy teams and we arent all named ottr, gas mines in particular can defend your cashout and keep it on highground. Ottr needs to be honest that he has no patient playstyle
gas mines are great if you want to defend from underneath the cashout, you can just shoot the mine and the gas goes through the floor. If enemies heal against that you could still drop the cash as a backup
If you are lower rank and are still having trouble reading all the information you get I can see it. But it is a skill you have to build so it is still bad.
@@burninglight97 i am not low rank, but even if you are right then still it will be a loot easier to react to danger than witchout it, also i see through smokes which i use as a combo with thermal, its strong slept on combo but what works for me may not work for you soo your choice.
Glitch mine is really easy to destroy with no one shooting at you, but you can use another mine to throw on it, so if someone tries breaking it, it'll either spawn gas or explode them and or terrain
I think it’s a bit exaggerated. Sucks how often you can’t play because someone leaves or their game crashes, but outside of that the mode is very fun imo.
i think C4 is pretty underrated, you can use it to relocate the cashout station by putting it a floor below and catch enemies off guard and you can use it as a breach charge if you're running mesh shield overall its pretty versatile
I think there’s a big issue right now that medium is the only class with healing or movement options they can give to the team. I would add something like a speed grenade for light, which gives 5 seconds of movement speed bonus. For heavy instead of something like a healing grenade, to fit the play style I would say putting down a healing field would make more sense. You throw it like a bubble shield, and it has the same radius, and would give out a pulse of 30 healing every second for 6 seconds. Just giving more options would free up medium to use other gadgets, since right now it’s basically required they take healing beam and one movement option.
I absolutely love Pyro grenades when I'm low on health and getting chased through a doorway/window/zipline. Because if the enemy decides to chase you, they will take damage, you will know exactly where they are coming from, and it messes up their vision. Turned the fight around for me so many times.
As a dash shotgun main, personally i think the thermal bore is quite versatile, specifically because of the *thermal* part. It having fire damage means i can clear gas, stall cashout/terminal, kidnap point, shoot behind me if I'm escaping, i just think it's all round very useful.
I always use the dash because whenever I use the invisibility everyone always sees me still like even if I’m not moving at all they will shoot me down like it’s nothing 😭 but I can never see them my eyes are fucked
Thermal Bore is very very strong, at least A tier, it allows to create such insane angles by breaking down walls and all from afar. Literally allowed me to very easily set up a crazy defense on Monaco from a building in front cause I removed the walls to the cashout. It’s crazy good tbh.
@@Scion15 and? i ran mesh when it was 1k hp, 250 deduction might not sound like a lot but i did make a difference in how fast it went down. everytime i see a heavy throw up a mesh and try and run i just charge slam them lol, and i just target the shield as soon as its thrown up and then they gotta wait for it to come back.
for light i would place sonar over glitch this season, because sonar can almost always be used on cooldown, while glitch is much more situational. the amount of information the team gets is just much, MUCH more reliable than a clutch glitch in any other game. and to rank a gadget i think its important to rate its use over many games.
Running thermal bore with goo grenades on light... Surprisingly useful for defending and attacking cahshout because because thermite bore ignites goo. Also sonar grenades are useful to help give the team enemies whereabouts, which is nice for cashout when attacking abd defending. Not S tier if Light is meant to be a killing machine and have more offensive gadgets, but Sonar definitely has it's applications in cashout.
Gas mine is great for gassing through walls since you can throw it right where you want it to detonate-If you put a goo wall on top of the mine it also wont get detonated if they set the goo on fire or explode the goo; meaning theyll usually walk over it and detonate it-if this is for a small room that you pincer then itll do a lot more than an explosive without having to actually be there to set up in the moment like with gas grenades. It also goes great with grenade launcher/explosives as it doesnt get debuffed stcked explosive damage.
Easy data reshaper buff:make it so that it’s instant instead of needing to pull out the tablet . Probably will have to nerf it as compensation but would be sick
I think thermal bore is great against countering barricades and getting rid of gas which is what I mainly run it for, I also run it for the scope as it’s great for spotting enemies
Glitch grenade is meant for engaging (at a distance). You burst down the mesh and push on them. Mine you hold a point and let them crash in and mow em down.
Smoke grenades counter fire; Theyre really good if youre holding a point/Powershift and want to keep up goo walls against fire. also prevents gas from being ignited.
Goo gun is S tier. It provides defense, offense, and movement to the heavy. It can stop a cash out steal, stun lock enemies in place so you can smash or burn them, and can create strings of fire as long as you want with a flamethrower.
honestly ranked TA is relevant to all who play it :) i hated it last season but gave it another try now and it actually is really fun once you adapt your playstyle to it. Its a lot less chaotic and running around making noise gets punished harder, that is probably why many people do not like it :)
Thermal vision is the most slept on ability especially if you are using it on maps that have a low visibility or in games that are super intense and chaotic. It honestly belongs in a or b tier🤷🏾♂️
I think thermal bore deserves a small bump. The thermite element to it means it can deal with gas and goo defenses easily. Two things that often suck to deal with as a light. It is also VERY loud and can cover pushes and be used to make the enemy think you are coming from one way, while actually going another under the cover of the noise. Is it S tier? No. But I think it has slightly more use cases than you gave it credit for. Great tier list overall though 👍
You hate on TA to much, I have played the required match of cashout in season one and have never played again, it is so cheesy and the meta is cheese. I only played bank it before TA, then TA came out and all of my friends only like that game mode cuz you need tragedy and not cheese. And gas mines are really good in TA when on ATK they have won me so many matches even after my whole team was dead. Maybe you don’t like TA cuz you don’t have an actual team ,you just solo queue so many matches. And you camp with sniper, so you can’t say it’s slow paced.(sorry for the holy yap, and you deserve an opinion as well this is just mine)
I like lights specials i feel like they fit him very well and can be very versatile in disengaging and agrevating fights as well as scouting. The only one i dont like is cloak because vanishing bomb is a thing yea it makes noise and can give away position but its good and last a fare amount of time.
APS should get buffed like maybe it takes more grenades and it starts to heal after a while of inactivity but I would make it get damaged if it doesn't get time to breathe (aka overheat).
Personally i found a lot of success with frag grenades on all 3 classes, but it could be just me. The cool down is too short and the amount of damage they do in my opinion is too much, but i digress. They are only good if you can land them consistently though, if you do it’s literally better than rpg, albeit not as consistent. For the heavy list, personally i would put nades in S, barricades are just not my playstyle.
I think clock is overrated.. i use dash and play medium like a high risk high reward medium, I even use no vanish bomb, just sonar for information, gateway for quick positioning or use it in danger and termal vision. Works perfectly fine, all you have to do is dashing when you get hit to make yourself a hard to kill target amd always play high ground which is obviously kinda easy with dash
Im suprised that you dont think the winch is S. As primarily a solo q guy, I think its amazing. But the thing you have to change your expectations, because it makes heavy an area control class and not a pure support. Especially if you run barricade rpg and anti grav
Been playing this game religiously since it came out. This season is a night n day difference I went from top of my team every game to dead last every game. I’ve been getting completely destroyed every game all season 3. Idk if matchmaking was changed or something but the game went from super fun to completely unplayable. I’m talking enemy team ending with 40-50 kills and my team getting like 4. Unbalanced teams is an understatement.
they def did something to the matchmaking. some games (id say 30%) are alright for me, but the rest are just shit games where youll have to sweat buckets to cover for ur fortnite kid teammates
Stopped at Invis cloak in S and Dash below it. Anyone who played for the first month after s3 launch was painful aware of just how prevalent and powerful dash lights were in every mode. Entire power shift lobbies of lights all using dash because invis and grapple were simply inferior choices. So many dash lights that approaching any objective was akin to slapping a Japanese murder hornet nest.
thermal bore is insane!!! why only D tier?? It's gotta be atleast B tier if not A. Also smoke grenades are really good for stealth captures and confusing enemies. I would put that at B tier
Gas mine D? I think that's a little harsh. Your the last man standing in a 1v3 and you have 20 seconds to kill to stop the enemy team from stealing. Gas mines can be clutch
Healing beam is over rated while you use it you are not effectively able to use weapon making your team in a 2v3 might as well just shoot your gun over heal, turret and dematerializer are much more useful, I do agree with all your other takes though.
puts dashes under cloack.Uses dashes in all of his L clips xd.IMO dashes are more versatile than cloak- Dash: 1.Reposition 2.Run away 3.Get closer to vaults and cashes faster(bigger chance to force OT when not using portals).4.Get away from winch and melee faster.5.Getting higher than a normal jump.6.Trow further away. With cloak u can do only 1 and 2
Is Cloaking Device really that strong? I feel like rhe start up csr being ar 33% just eats it away too fast for it to be of any use after the initial pop.. Am i wrong?
personally all of the light specializations are quite bad, the cloaking one is just the least worse spec. Picking between the best of worst options doesn't make the best one a good option. (I am a light main that only runs cloak)
Yes and No the only reason why cloak is still powerful is only because if you are focusing your attention on something else which is basically all the time there's a high chance you might be killed... But there's thermal vision I don't think thermal vision is F tier that's ridiculous I think it's is in between B and A the pros is you can see invisible lights, if the building is getting destroyed and there's too much clutter to point where you can barely see you can get the jump on enemies before they can and seeing enemies in your peripheral vision but the downside of thermal is sometimes enemies won't be highlighted from certain ranges so you have turn your camera a certain way to see them, certain maps like horizon on night time makes it very bright for you to see in thermal, you can barely see mines if you are fully paying attention
Dash as A tier is a mistake. So much better than invis. Invis can’t be used against good players. Dash can save you from good players if you know how to use it. It saved my ass playing against top 6 players yesterday
U forgot mention about Pyro utilities on blocking passage, burning Goo castle and Removing Posion from cash out U can also make enemy revive teammate statue longer since Pyro can stick on enemy Statue and DMG themselves when carry it
dude I have clutched 1000s of times with gas mines, you're fucking insane, gas grenades are 1000x worse, smaller cloud size and doesn't last as long and you only get 1.
I like how most of heavy’s specializations we’re already in need of a nerf and then they got another stupid broken specialization while light and medium got mids
You put cloaking on S? Insane brother ppl shoot me while invis standing already 3~4 sec not moving from a 100 meters 😂 Sry it's your opinion and so on but I disagree totally on dash&cloaking
thermal vision increases a tier for every 2 lights in the lobby
Same for maps with bamboo/forest areas
11:56 Light
19:50 medium
29:00 heavy
I use the thermal bore a lot.
Mostly to drop cashout, destroying bridges and cranes, clearing goo and poison, and creating inconvenient holes in the floor of doorways.
You can destroy a bridge in seoul with one shot lol
I do the same. Gives the team additional options.
I do the same. Gives the team additional options.
@@BigSoapp you cant, you need at least 4 hit
EXACTLYYYY that crane be annoying asf
Let me guess, winch is S tier
should be, it’s so good and has a ton of uses.
Seriously, you have a cash out on a moving platform you can basically pick whatever location you want to defend if you just winch claw it off
Winch made the slug shotgun a lot more usable for heavy
Mad Light detected
@@thomvo4763made everything a lot more viable 😂
If you put mines at the top of stairs you will catch a lot of people off guard, especially if they are kill hungry and chase
facts. I always drop some behind me after closing a door getting chased and when they set it off and I start pewing them, it’s almost a guarantee elim. Also gas mining a a cashout box defensively is a great way to keep opponents at bay and stalling. I’ve won tons of games by people not being able to touch the box while i’m fighting somewhere else hahaha
@@cabinstorytimeYeah, it's super handy for holding the cash out. I've won many a game because the gas has stalled an enemy team.
Pyro mine is the most underrated heavy gadget. You can plant on point to stall steals, plant on enemy trophies (you'd be surprised how many people fall for this), place at feet when retreating to catch chasers off guard.
All mines are very good if you play patiently. If your trying to top frag, it isn't super useful. But, if you play set up, especially with medium, you can confidently protect the cash out solo.
this, in cashout you might have to defend against all 3 enemy teams and we arent all named ottr, gas mines in particular can defend your cashout and keep it on highground.
Ottr needs to be honest that he has no patient playstyle
ye, and its almost a law that all these lizardbrains mindlessly chase you down and run into your mines if you bait them a little
gas mines are great if you want to defend from underneath the cashout, you can just shoot the mine and the gas goes through the floor. If enemies heal against that you could still drop the cash as a backup
Huh, that's genius. I did not know that. Thanks!
Thermal vision may not seem like munch but when you realise how munch visual clutter there is in game then i can say its SOLID A Tier.
If you are lower rank and are still having trouble reading all the information you get I can see it. But it is a skill you have to build so it is still bad.
@@burninglight97 i am not low rank, but even if you are right then still it will be a loot easier to react to danger than witchout it, also i see through smokes which i use as a combo with thermal, its strong slept on combo but what works for me may not work for you soo your choice.
I agree, especially while using the bow it makes it easier to hit enemies because they don’t camouflage into the environment. You only see them.
ice spice thinks so too
@@Whuza. lol I just realised bro was saying munch
Glitch mine is really easy to destroy with no one shooting at you, but you can use another mine to throw on it, so if someone tries breaking it, it'll either spawn gas or explode them and or terrain
The ranked TA slander is amazing and I am here for it
This is the way
Amen
Cringe take
I love terminal attack
I love every game mode except Cashout which is the main game mode
I think it’s a bit exaggerated. Sucks how often you can’t play because someone leaves or their game crashes, but outside of that the mode is very fun imo.
I think pyro and gas mine has uses you get two charges and can just shoot it yourself to deny a doorway or something for a period of time
i think C4 is pretty underrated, you can use it to relocate the cashout station by putting it a floor below and catch enemies off guard and you can use it as a breach charge if you're running mesh shield overall its pretty versatile
I think there’s a big issue right now that medium is the only class with healing or movement options they can give to the team. I would add something like a speed grenade for light, which gives 5 seconds of movement speed bonus. For heavy instead of something like a healing grenade, to fit the play style I would say putting down a healing field would make more sense. You throw it like a bubble shield, and it has the same radius, and would give out a pulse of 30 healing every second for 6 seconds. Just giving more options would free up medium to use other gadgets, since right now it’s basically required they take healing beam and one movement option.
I absolutely love Pyro grenades when I'm low on health and getting chased through a doorway/window/zipline. Because if the enemy decides to chase you, they will take damage, you will know exactly where they are coming from, and it messes up their vision. Turned the fight around for me so many times.
As a dash shotgun main, personally i think the thermal bore is quite versatile, specifically because of the *thermal* part. It having fire damage means i can clear gas, stall cashout/terminal, kidnap point, shoot behind me if I'm escaping, i just think it's all round very useful.
I always use the dash because whenever I use the invisibility everyone always sees me still like even if I’m not moving at all they will shoot me down like it’s nothing 😭 but I can never see them my eyes are fucked
What spec do you use now?
Thermal Bore is very very strong, at least A tier, it allows to create such insane angles by breaking down walls and all from afar. Literally allowed me to very easily set up a crazy defense on Monaco from a building in front cause I removed the walls to the cashout. It’s crazy good tbh.
That's an excellent idea. I've struggled with using a sniper on cash out (it's super useful in power shift), but this is great
i feel like mesh shields overrated now, breaks fairly easy, and if you’re getting chased it just prolongs your death, charge n slam and winch all day.
I've literally never used mesh shield. It looks so boring to play. I press Q and watch enemies disappear 😂 Charge n slam is pure dopamine! ☺️
Prolongs your death…?
So protection with possibility to be saved and others? lol
@@BoxcarAvA44182 he must be solo q
@@Scion15 and? i ran mesh when it was 1k hp, 250 deduction might not sound like a lot but i did make a difference in how fast it went down. everytime i see a heavy throw up a mesh and try and run i just charge slam them lol, and i just target the shield as soon as its thrown up and then they gotta wait for it to come back.
Mesh shield only works if u have communication with ur team. If I u are getting chased u can use mesh shield and call ur teammates to help u
for light i would place sonar over glitch this season, because sonar can almost always be used on cooldown, while glitch is much more situational. the amount of information the team gets is just much, MUCH more reliable than a clutch glitch in any other game. and to rank a gadget i think its important to rate its use over many games.
Running thermal bore with goo grenades on light... Surprisingly useful for defending and attacking cahshout because because thermite bore ignites goo.
Also sonar grenades are useful to help give the team enemies whereabouts, which is nice for cashout when attacking abd defending. Not S tier if Light is meant to be a killing machine and have more offensive gadgets, but Sonar definitely has it's applications in cashout.
13:05 bro i saw this fotage more than 10000 times!
Gas mine is great for gassing through walls since you can throw it right where you want it to detonate-If you put a goo wall on top of the mine it also wont get detonated if they set the goo on fire or explode the goo; meaning theyll usually walk over it and detonate it-if this is for a small room that you pincer then itll do a lot more than an explosive without having to actually be there to set up in the moment like with gas grenades. It also goes great with grenade launcher/explosives as it doesnt get debuffed stcked explosive damage.
Easy data reshaper buff:make it so that it’s instant instead of needing to pull out the tablet .
Probably will have to nerf it as compensation but would be sick
Totally agree
I think thermal bore is great against countering barricades and getting rid of gas which is what I mainly run it for, I also run it for the scope as it’s great for spotting enemies
Glitch grenade is meant for engaging (at a distance). You burst down the mesh and push on them. Mine you hold a point and let them crash in and mow em down.
You can reshape turrets to! Super useful imo turrets are annoying with a lot of health
Smoke grenades counter fire; Theyre really good if youre holding a point/Powershift and want to keep up goo walls against fire. also prevents gas from being ignited.
Goo gun is S tier.
It provides defense, offense, and movement to the heavy. It can stop a cash out steal, stun lock enemies in place so you can smash or burn them, and can create strings of fire as long as you want with a flamethrower.
honestly ranked TA is relevant to all who play it :) i hated it last season but gave it another try now and it actually is really fun once you adapt your playstyle to it. Its a lot less chaotic and running around making noise gets punished harder, that is probably why many people do not like it :)
Thermal vision is the most slept on ability especially if you are using it on maps that have a low visibility or in games that are super intense and chaotic. It honestly belongs in a or b tier🤷🏾♂️
Have you ever made a video on power shift?
I guess it a fairly straight forward mode
I think thermal bore deserves a small bump. The thermite element to it means it can deal with gas and goo defenses easily. Two things that often suck to deal with as a light. It is also VERY loud and can cover pushes and be used to make the enemy think you are coming from one way, while actually going another under the cover of the noise. Is it S tier? No. But I think it has slightly more use cases than you gave it credit for. Great tier list overall though 👍
You hate on TA to much, I have played the required match of cashout in season one and have never played again, it is so cheesy and the meta is cheese. I only played bank it before TA, then TA came out and all of my friends only like that game mode cuz you need tragedy and not cheese. And gas mines are really good in TA when on ATK they have won me so many matches even after my whole team was dead. Maybe you don’t like TA cuz you don’t have an actual team ,you just solo queue so many matches. And you camp with sniper, so you can’t say it’s slow paced.(sorry for the holy yap, and you deserve an opinion as well this is just mine)
Tbh if i want to play TA i rather play other planting bomb game, cashout is way better and it is more fun.
yeah cloaking device is actually insane. In one of my first games i played i managed to clutch a 1 v 4 with cloaking device
I like lights specials i feel like they fit him very well and can be very versatile in disengaging and agrevating fights as well as scouting. The only one i dont like is cloak because vanishing bomb is a thing yea it makes noise and can give away position but its good and last a fare amount of time.
brother record some more background content while doing these... seeing thesame 3 clips in a loop on every video is about to make me go insane XD
is it morning in sweden?
APS should get buffed like maybe it takes more grenades and it starts to heal after a while of inactivity but I would make it get damaged if it doesn't get time to breathe (aka overheat).
Personally i found a lot of success with frag grenades on all 3 classes, but it could be just me.
The cool down is too short and the amount of damage they do in my opinion is too much, but i digress.
They are only good if you can land them consistently though, if you do it’s literally better than rpg, albeit not as consistent.
For the heavy list, personally i would put nades in S, barricades are just not my playstyle.
I will put goo granade in B tier can block bullets if you are in an open area and can stop people cashing if you don't have taser
The good grenade and dematerializer are good as well on medium
Is the LH1 still good in cashout?
When he said using gas mine was a skill issue I felt that.
Putting thermal in F tier when the top light in the world uses it all the time is interesting
I think clock is overrated.. i use dash and play medium like a high risk high reward medium, I even use no vanish bomb, just sonar for information, gateway for quick positioning or use it in danger and termal vision. Works perfectly fine, all you have to do is dashing when you get hit to make yourself a hard to kill target amd always play high ground which is obviously kinda easy with dash
Sonar Grenade with Thermal Bore works wonders !
Can you give me advices for t-a in ranked because always i lose.
He hates TA, proably Ekazo and Epitomy have videos about it
Im suprised that you dont think the winch is S. As primarily a solo q guy, I think its amazing. But the thing you have to change your expectations, because it makes heavy an area control class and not a pure support. Especially if you run barricade rpg and anti grav
Technically, the anti grav cube is a negative grav cube because you go up without applying any force
Been playing this game religiously since it came out. This season is a night n day difference I went from top of my team every game to dead last every game. I’ve been getting completely destroyed every game all season 3. Idk if matchmaking was changed or something but the game went from super fun to completely unplayable. I’m talking enemy team ending with 40-50 kills and my team getting like 4. Unbalanced teams is an understatement.
they def did something to the matchmaking. some games (id say 30%) are alright for me, but the rest are just shit games where youll have to sweat buckets to cover for ur fortnite kid teammates
You got to let me edit ur videos, the gameplay clips are not just repeating themselves but are also in ur last tier list video xD
i play def support ligh with cloak lh1 smoke sonar thermal
22:13 You just rated the M60 as the best weapon for heavy 6 days ago, and now you’re saying it’s bad. What’s changed?
I feel like the explosive mines are S-tier if you are using winch + sledgehammer..
For the mines it’s more of a “get out of jail free” card where if ur getting pushed you can plop down a barricade and mine, boom done easy
If you put a gas mine and jump pad in a door way the enemy can’t get out and die so I think that can make the gas mine b Teet
Stopped at Invis cloak in S and Dash below it. Anyone who played for the first month after s3 launch was painful aware of just how prevalent and powerful dash lights were in every mode. Entire power shift lobbies of lights all using dash because invis and grapple were simply inferior choices. So many dash lights that approaching any objective was akin to slapping a Japanese murder hornet nest.
Shooting them counters it if you weren't aware
@@JohnJohn-l2k gl with that.
@@cameronbordeau850 dang you right mb
“The video on the gateway would be like an hour, too long for youtube”. No it’s not. I’m ready.
thermal bore is insane!!! why only D tier?? It's gotta be atleast B tier if not A. Also smoke grenades are really good for stealth captures and confusing enemies. I would put that at B tier
Smoke pairs nice with sword and sonar
Doesnt smoke counter fire?
Gas mine D? I think that's a little harsh. Your the last man standing in a 1v3 and you have 20 seconds to kill to stop the enemy team from stealing. Gas mines can be clutch
Thermal bore def deserves C. It counters gas as well.
Also pyro higher than frag is kinda brain dead
Maybe u will appreciate more Pyro when Cash out full of Poison and enemy blocking cash out with a lot goo
Especially when Goo Grenade buffed a lot this season
Smoke is pretty fun with sword honestly
Yo thx ottr
Make the Gateway video plz Also Data Re-shaper is S Tier, if you dont know that your doing it wrong...
I use 3 smokes and v9s wipe a entire team with the thermal vision
Healing beam is over rated while you use it you are not effectively able to use weapon making your team in a 2v3 might as well just shoot your gun over heal, turret and dematerializer are much more useful, I do agree with all your other takes though.
puts dashes under cloack.Uses dashes in all of his L clips xd.IMO dashes are more versatile than cloak- Dash: 1.Reposition 2.Run away 3.Get closer to vaults and cashes faster(bigger chance to force OT when not using portals).4.Get away from winch and melee faster.5.Getting higher than a normal jump.6.Trow further away. With cloak u can do only 1 and 2
Is Cloaking Device really that strong? I feel like rhe start up csr being ar 33% just eats it away too fast for it to be of any use after the initial pop..
Am i wrong?
personally all of the light specializations are quite bad, the cloaking one is just the least worse spec. Picking between the best of worst options doesn't make the best one a good option. (I am a light main that only runs cloak)
Yes and No the only reason why cloak is still powerful is only because if you are focusing your attention on something else which is basically all the time there's a high chance you might be killed... But there's thermal vision I don't think thermal vision is F tier that's ridiculous I think it's is in between B and A the pros is you can see invisible lights, if the building is getting destroyed and there's too much clutter to point where you can barely see you can get the jump on enemies before they can and seeing enemies in your peripheral vision but the downside of thermal is sometimes enemies won't be highlighted from certain ranges so you have turn your camera a certain way to see them, certain maps like horizon on night time makes it very bright for you to see in thermal, you can barely see mines if you are fully paying attention
Its bad ngl dash is more superior harder to hit
@@chillediron1696run other ones then
In the end of the day. It's still invisibility. If used correctly it's some of the deadliest shit in this game
Dash as A tier is a mistake. So much better than invis. Invis can’t be used against good players. Dash can save you from good players if you know how to use it. It saved my ass playing against top 6 players yesterday
I don't have crazy aim but I can still beam someone using dash most of the time
Pyro: deals like 5dmg per second, A Tier
Frag: instant 149dmg, B tier
Bro... 💀
U forgot mention about Pyro utilities on blocking passage, burning Goo castle and Removing Posion from cash out
U can also make enemy revive teammate statue longer since Pyro can stick on enemy Statue and DMG themselves when carry it
Oh man, I love the Flashbangs fam...
Weren't they buffed since he made this??
Ngl winch is the best thing they added in s3
Hear me out: smoke grenades and thermal vision combo
If Glitch Trap aint S tier, i will cry
why mouse cam? show us your monitor
Thermal bore is S tier
Will you check apex again because of the new patch ?
yess finally my pookie released gadget tierlist
I need a gateway video..
didnt you post this video before
Why are you playing on a lower difficulty than me
This is like evolve Jake for Fortnite
charge n slam is S tier
dude I have clutched 1000s of times with gas mines, you're fucking insane, gas grenades are 1000x worse, smaller cloud size and doesn't last as long and you only get 1.
Video starts at 1:25
gateway tutorial when?
You a real one
I like how most of heavy’s specializations we’re already in need of a nerf and then they got another stupid broken specialization while light and medium got mids
LETS GO!!
Pyro mine is very good, what are you saying? Better than gas mine
its literally what he said watch the video
@@Babushka_Hunter_69he probably has TikTok brain that’s too much for him
Wow, Billy Butcher plays the finals?
No it's not at all what he said
He said that its a good counter meta AND HE PUT IT LITERALLY ABOVE THE OTHER NADES(invis dont count)
Sounds like solo public player
Heavy grav cube is F tier. It's completely useless and a gimmick
Come back to apex bro, we miss u
You put cloaking on S? Insane brother ppl shoot me while invis standing already 3~4 sec not moving from a 100 meters 😂
Sry it's your opinion and so on but I disagree totally on dash&cloaking
bro keeps trashing TA😭😭😭
hehe gamers and gentael me
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