The Irony of Kevin Nash Complaining About CM Punk
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- The Irony of Kevin Nash Complaining About CM Punk
From The Stevie Richards Show episode 2
Here's the clean version of the original Kevin Nash quote on CM Punk:
“Punk was on social media... and he was stating that he was added to the [2K] video game along with Terry Funk and a couple of the... ECW Hardcore guys. My only thing is this. I tore my quad. Well, it happened. A lot of people just don't know about it... probably because I came back quicker than a triceps tear.
So he's saying he's going to be back for SummerSlam. He tore that... in January. I'm just saying... I tore my triceps, had it reconnected and I didn't miss a pay per view. Thanks for the guaranteed money. Don't get paid and see how, how long you lay around with your arm and a sling.”
So Kevin Nash, the man who likes to claim he's somehow the inventor (which he isn't) of guaranteed contracts for wrestlers along with Scott Hall (who also isn't), is complaining that when he hurt his triceps back in 1995, he continued wrestling after having it re-attached a month earlier and "never missed a pay per view".
Nash here either comes across as bitter that wrestlers in 2024 have the option of actually healing their injuries without fear of being let go or, even worse, complaining that CM Punk is sitting out his contract while getting paid - the irony being that Nash did exactly that out of protest while with WCW in 1997, then did as little as humanly possible throughout his entire WCW run, including "booking his own retirement" to take himself out as active performer for months, all the while collecting his guaranteed money from Turner.
Ultimately, CM Punk cooked Kevin Nash pretty hard during their 2011 "feud" that never culminated in a match, but did include promos of Nash not being able to keep up with Punk on the microphone.
As for why CM Punk and Kevin Nash never wrestled? Here's a quote from Nash:
"When I was supposed to wrestle Punk, he got under [Paul Levesque's] skin so bad. Paul just came up to me and said, 'I'm going to beat him. You're not going to wrestle him. I'm beating him.' Cool. That's why me and Punk never wrestled. He made the call, 'I gotta beat this f***er.'"
But the REAL reason was more likely that Nash couldn't get medically cleared at the time because he was on blood thinners. Maybe Nash hates Punk so much he just has to make up a nonsense reason for their match not taking place?
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How many wrestlers became crippled and addicted to pain pills because they never had a chance to heal properly? This is a positive change for the industry
In the very same interview Nash said he can use like a motherfucker but quit any time he wanted, he wasn't an addict (denial) and said the reason he's still alive is because opiods make him sick (they are a killed on the stomach that's true). So he was basically admitting if they didn't make him sick her have gotten addicted and died, while saying he can stop taking anything any time he wants.
Kevin Nash said he's only alive because Opiates make him throw up, in the same interview he said he wasn't an addict
Seriously, this. Triple H, Nash's friend, is heading up creative and has shown to be doing a better job putting wrestlers' health first than the previous regime. Besides, Punk's technically still working through his recovery anyway even though he's not taking any bumps rn. He's been travelling to screw Drew at every corner.
Agreed. Yes it can tempt a wrestler to be lazy, but I think the positive far outweighs the negative. Back in the 80s and before, if you could walk to the ring, you performed. It was absolutely brutal.
Ironically Nash never got into uppers, despite most of the Kliq indulging in plenty of blow
Maybe if Nash let his quads heal properly they wouldn't have become a meme
He obviously was skipping leg days. Remember his nickname back then was “Big Lazy”
@@RichSmithson Lmao it was! The Power Slam writers almost always called him that.
The mark doesn't even understand he is a meme. lol.
😂😂😂
Punk gets injured more than nash
Tore his quad, came back, tore his quad again. Easy to “work” with an injury when your matches are 90% walking around, slowly.
@@distantandvague …he had 30+ matches in AEW.
He didn't tear his quad twice. He tore his bicep and he was thrown into a match that he didn't know he was supposed to wrestle until he got to the arena that day. He literally had to have a friend hop a plane and bring him his gear so he could wrestle in mere hours. He didn't have his knee brace for the quad he tore.
@@distantandvagueevery match? In the span of a year punk has only been injured 3 times... Which is like 10% or less... Keep inflating the numbers bro
@@mydnyghtamethyst tore it in march 2002 and july 2002..that’s twice, isn’t it?
@@distantandvague as opposed to "he's injured himself in every match" lmao yeah right
“I tore my tricep and didn’t miss a PPV” and that’s why you were plagued with injuries the rest of your career and never made it past TNA and you can barely walk.
and cm punk isn't plagued with injuries? guy can't even stage dive into a crowd without getting hurt. hell guy can't even have a tag match without getting hurt. he shat on ROH, left, shat on it some more then praised it years down the line. He shat on WWE, left, Shat on it some more and then returned years down the line. He shat on AEW, left, and I guarantee you a few years from now we'll be seeing him back there. Fragile ego, Fragile body, hypocrite punk.
Nash is right about Punk.
@@rozodru4790punk living rent free in your pea brain lol.
@@rozodru4790 chill dude 😢
@@rozodru4790punk ain’t going back to aew
wo wow woow. you cant break kayfabe on your comment.
Stevie is so good to listen to, he seems like a genuinely good guy as well.
Nash likes to brag about "changing the business" by bringing in guaranteed contracts, but now he's complaining about a wrestler reaping the benefits of having a guaranteed contract...🙄
Nash also sat out 1.5 years while collecting his Time Warner money instead of jumping back onto the WWF train. Can't blame him for that, but all this chirping about Punk's guaranteed contract makes Nash a hypocrite. Dude sounds ridiculous complaining about guaranteed contracts...
You know how there are adults that say they want to build opportunities for young people that they themselves didn't have growing up, then complain when young people use those opportunities? That's what it sound like.
@@BenHughes81 Spot on.
LOL true. Also Nash was not the catalyst for guaranteed money. WCW had guaranteed money in the late 80s(checkout Jim Cornette's timeline 89/90). What changed was WCW finally started winning, so Vince felt he had to start offering more guaranteed money.
Did you watch “who killed wcw”? Nash once again bragging “i got mine, screw everyone else”. Also Booker T said he went straight to work for Vince because Flair told him “time off is the career killer” and Vince pushed Booker to be a big star for proving his loyalty. Nash still complains to this day that Vince didn’t know what to do with Him when he came back in 2002.
Nash cant see work ethic takes you places.
@@RichSmithsonDDP jumped instead of waiting out the Turner money and had his career swiftly killed by Vince and I doubt Diamond Page of all people lacked work ethic.
"I tore my quad some people don't know that."
Everyone knows that
HA! I thought the same thing.
My neighbor’s dog knows that. 😂
I was so confused about that. Maybe one specific time? Like, he tore it 12 times but people only know about it 11 times or something like that?
He said it as a joke. He makes fun of the torn quad all of the time on his show. His co-host Sean Oliver is chuckling after Nash makes the joke. Calm down.
The entire fuckin internet laughs about it 😂
Nash cares about Nash; not the business, not the boys, just himself.
Regardless who is right or wrong, prioritizing the business before your self is pretty stupid and a great way to end up walked all over like a welcome mat. The business will thrive long after after those guys are dead.
@@Lthemisan I think what he meant was that he didn't care enough about the business to make it better. I'm not saying totally sacrifice yourself for the business, but like he didn't care about it like how Bret Hart cared about it.
Not even his son just himself
Nash is still upset when Punk cracked him in the ring, comparing his knees going click like the people at home clicking their remotes off when he was on the TV screen.
Nash actually worked himself into a shoot, brother. 😂 That script was planned out ahead of time, yet Nash acts like Punk just came out and started burying him offscript. What a goof.
💯
@Jeff_Pryce I think Nash's issue mostly stemmed from the fact that he was supposed to just stand there and get buried, which mid-segment he decided was bullshit and started firing back. It was an awkward segment, really. I will say, you can clearly see Nash struck a nerve with Punk with one or two of his quips. He looked very uncomfortable at one point.
I don’t see what he’s complaining about with him. I get a lot of people don’t like punk. Punk literally is working smarter because of his age. And he still was on TV even after being injured. So I mean he still is working sports entertainment? 🙄🤷🏾♂️. Like come on gotta give him credit. And he assaulted Drew McIntyre and got assaulted by him so he’s gotten physical.
"OMG Kevin Nash, thought he was dead...LOL!"
I think Nash forgot that the last time the WWE didn't let Punk heal, he almost fu*king died due a staph infection and sued them lmao. He's just talking shit for the sake of it and it's sad at this point.
Actually after they found out they more so gave him 30 days off as far in Ring fighting goes and this was all during his 434 Days Title Reign as well ya know way back in like 2010-2011 as there was 1 PPV where Punk never defended his WWE HW Title during it as all they had him do was show up and do a In Ring Promo w/ Paul Heyman and whomever else it was.
Yea. He missed TLC 2012. He was supposed to face Ryback, but that turned into Ryback, Team Hell No vs The Shield.
Some wrestler’s style involves more than throwing an elbow in the corner and lifting his foot a little higher.
Don't forget the hair flip 😂
OOF
Punk got hurt his bicep taking a DDT because he decided at 48 that taking steroids and going to the gym might be a good idea.
@@RG-lr4pk when you look at Punk, you see a guy on steroids?
@@warrensloan3467literally tho lol, like if punks unimpressive physique having ass is on roids than the whole business is
"How dare wrestlers want to be treated like human beings?!" - Certain people who are (to put it mildly) out of touch.
He might as well say "get off my lawn!"
@@jetleeroy33 😁
Punk himself even said that guaranteed money has ruined the business which is also ironic
Nash was good when he was surrounded by guys who would make him look good, Bret Hart, Shawn Michael's, Scott Hall, Undertaker. The guy who bucked for big guaranteed contracts now talking trash about people with guaranteed contracts. For a dude who smokes a ton of weed he sure is angry and bitter.
He should brag about how physically demanding that match with the finger poke of doom was.
Hell of a bump, brother 😂
He literally did. On Nitro he and Hogan did a video together mockingly talking about the match.
Well the WWF did that Match way before WCW did or did you forget in Dec 1996 where Commish Slaughter made Shawn Michaels defend his European Championship vs Triple H where Triple H didn't even need a FingerPoke Of Doom he had the Stare OF Death instead to where Shawn laid down and Hunter pinned him to become European Champion. So al WCW did was Copy that dude!
Maybe if Nash had taken more time off to rehab his quad tears it wouldn't have kept happening over and over...
Stop using logic.
@@wilcee238why? Can't keep up?
@user-pl3is3cj4r Obviously you can’t keep up with logic, sarcasm, and more than likely hygiene.
@@wilcee238 damn didn't have to kill his ass, hahaha
Couldn't even withstand a rickety bridge in tmnt 2
Punk literally said he would be back if they weren't stopping him from coming back. There's the answer any other discussion is irrelevant
@harvardsmithdeangelo6905imagine acting like you know more than the guy himself
@@TheBunnyMans He's been back for at least a couple of weeks anyway. That bump on the concrete that Punk took from Drew in Chicago couldn't be done by someone that wasn't medically cleared. Some of the delay in Punk's return is from booking. There's a lot going on with a lot of people involved. Triple H is working Punk in at just the right moment so they can do a proper build to SummerSlam...
@@positively_broad_st3780 I thought he almost hurt himself bracing the fall off Drews shoulders
@harvardsmithdeangelo6905 hes million times tougher than you, keyboard warrior. when did you ever get physical? and i dont mean standing up from your chair to get more donuts.
@@btdaniels9028 Imagine we all know more than Dave Meltzer
So...after Nash came back so quick after tearing his quad, how many more times did he tear that same quad? How many times did he tear the other quad because he was favoring a still-injured quad?
We have no way of answering these. But for a guy who injured his quads as many times as Nash did, it's kind of weird for him to be acting like coming back from injuring them quickly was a good thing.
he only tore his quad once
He only tore his quad once. He returned from a tricep injury and proceeded to tear his quad.
@@willt8848 I though he tore one quad like 7 times and the other 4. Maybe I'm thinking of his knees.
He tore it multiple times lmao
@@rajamicitrenti1374 he tore his quad at WrestleMania in the match between Triple H vs Sting just running down the aisle
There are so many memes about Kevin Nash tearing his quad that I didn't expect Nash to bring up his quad one minute into the video lmao
Lol right?
I was like... He's being sarcastic right???
@@mundial200 exactly.😂
@@mundial200 lol same I laughed as i thought it was a good joke but laughed harder he was dead serious.
I think that C M Punk doesn't give a flying F what Nash thinks of him.
I love Punk but he definitely cares what everyone thinks about him lol. The guy's sensitive as fuck.
@@nectarinedreams7208that's complete bull... If punk truly was so sensitive he wouldn't display publicly all his trials and fails like his UFC career and still be so proud about it
U can say whatever u want but it doesn't take a detective to understand basic human psychology... A guy too afraid of what people might think of him would not act in anyway like how punk acts
@@levisamom5069facts cook that boy
@@levisamom5069 are you done sucking off Fragile Phil? If you think he doesn’t care what people think of him, you are delusional 😊 Punk marks are cringe. What’s funny is in real life he’s doesn’t even like you fanboys.
@@levisamom5069 Punk believed in his own hype. He genuinely thought he'd be good at UFC. That's his ego doing the thinking for him. UFC was the brutal reality check he so desperately needed. I'm certain he regrets it, despite what he says.
Punk has a very long history of shutting out anyone who he perceives to have wronged him in even the faintest of ways. He's extremely soft. History tells us that.
It doesn't take a detective to understand basic psychology, no. But it does take an honest person, not a lovestruck fanboy, to recognise that Punk's body as well as his mind are made of glass. Again, I'm a huge fan of CM Punk the pro wrestler, he might even be my GOAT, but Phil Brooks is kind of a huge bitch. You're too blind to see that and that's okay. You enjoy it!
Nash is still upset about Punk clowning on him when they worked together. Click, click, click. That shit still keeps Nash up at night.
I am no Nash fan. But the main thing I remember from that is Nash calling Punk a short order cook from a Pikeville Waffle House 😆 😂 So I would argue Nash got the better of him if I can remember that.
What I remember is Punk saying reading his sisters message "Saw Kevin Nash in the ring, I didn't know he was still alive LOL".
@@nikhilkrishnan9 it was "OMG, Kevin Nash, thought he was dead! LOL!"
@@nikhilkrishnan9That’s what I remember, too.
Nothing keeps Nash up at night he is a zombie with his pills
Nash did catch me off guard with his comments about All Out, like Punk wasnt justified in standing up for himself. Punk is absolutely right about guaranteed money too.
"OMG Kevin Nash WTF thought he was dead." Punk killed him with that promo.
No he didn’t.
Nash killed Punk with him looking like a cook at an irrelevant restaurant 😊 Mark
@@paulkendrick4153 You say that like you're not a mark too.
@@paulkendrick4153I don't know how he "killed" Punk with that because Punk does not look like a cook or a "Waffle House" guy at all. It's a weak retort with weak creativity.
His heart probably injured with a torn quad on that interview.
@@paulkendrick4153"OMG, Kevin Nash, thought he was dead LOL" That was the death blow and it was halfway through the promo.
The idea that WWE circa 2011 had Punk feud with Kevin Friggin Nash because they didn't want to run with him when he was the hottest thing in wrestling in 10 years is so ridiculous. Nash is bitter because he shouldn't have been there and Punk didn't hold back in promos.
That was insane to me. Punk was WHITE HOT back then. Vince could have easily pull a trigger to make him one of the big faces of the company. Because he was so obsessed with protecting his boy, John Cena, Vince basically fumbled Punk on purpose and stuck him with a lazy retired Kevin Nash. And then booked Punk to lose 4 PPVS in a row before giving him the WWE championship. He cooled Punk off when he should have rode the lightning bolt simply because he was scared of giving him a chance. And look how wrong Vince was. Punk has proven himself as a legit megastar in the business.
@@Jeff_Pryce My recollection was that Cena was pleased when Punk took off because it meant that the company's fate wasn't completely on his shoulders.
I had always figured that Vince had some preexisting main events in mind and didn't want to completely rip up the plans they had for those few months. Of course, if that was the case...who cares. Rip them up and have Punk chase someone for the title.
But it certainly would've fit the company's approach in other areas, where they took sponsors away from punk and gave them to other wrestlers.
Hottest thing in wrestling in 10 years lmfao yea that's why the bum couldn't even outdraw The Miz and R truth in the ratings in the same year. More smark revisionist history. The biggest things that happened in wrestling after 2001 which is what you're talking about was Cena and Batista rising to the top in 2005 and 2006... Punk was an anti draw.
Not a fan of Bret's bitterness but the only match Nash had that was any good was because of Bret
_Ya-ya-ya know it reminds me of the time me, Scott and myself are on the roadway outside of uh Blioxbi, riding in on the car and Bad Blood by Niel Sedaka comes on the radio and with Punk....well I never had a problem with Phil_ - Kevin Nash.
Man, I never heard of Kevin Nash tearing his quad. No one in the comments ever said anything about it, ever
You’d think there’d be jokes or something
Never ever ever
Anyone watch “Who Killed WCW”? Nash once again brags he sat out his AOL/WCW contract instead of going to work with Vince in 2001. Booker T however says “Flair told me time off will kill your career” so he went straight to WWF even with a 50% pay cut. Who went onto become a huge star and is still working for the WWE? Nash is still complaining “Vince didn’t know what to do with me in 2002”
In 2002, Nash should have retired. Any value he had was used up in WCW. When he came back to WWE, he was washed like laundry. He lost his speed, he lost his aura, and he was basically coasting off his rep. He was used exactly how he should have been; putting other people over.
Ok and DDP did the same thing, got shit on and his career never recovered.
@@mydnyghtamethyst DDP was i his mid 40s when he debuted in the WWF. Booker T was 9-10 years younger then him.
@@mydnyghtamethyst BS if it weren't for DDP recovering just fine over The Stalker Gimmick to Positvley PAGE there would be no like 22 plus years later A Thing called DDP Yoga and guys like Jake Roberts, Buff Bagwell or anybody else be already dead so Nope DDP never got SHAT on by the WWF just them Rabid Wankin Crybay Wussy fans whom cried cause Vinny bought WCW and think Vinny Killed everything when it was Jim Crockett in the 1980s whom really tried to kill WCW when he took that NWA World Championship Wrestling program off them air and why in 1990 Crockett wasn't allowed to keep that NWA Property going and it was sold to whom was WCW's 1st Owner in 1990 as in Jim Herd n Bill Watts then over Crockett!
excellent point right. the guy who sat out a year to collect money (while HEALTHY) is calling out a guy unhealthy for giving himself a few months to recover .... this may be the issue with PODcasts. the need for content leads to bad takes
I had to give up on Kevin's podcast. He's too obsessed with himself and this idea that he and Scott are why everyone gets guaranteed money. Additionally, Kevin talks out of both sides of his mouth. On the one hand, he talks about how little the promoters cared about "the boys" back in the day, only to then complain about a company being cautious with an injured wrestler.
Indeed
"All about the boys " while he spent a career stepping over them
He also admitted the o oh reason he never died of opiate addiction was because he couldn't hold them down
That Podcast is awful
I tried listening to videos of Nash's podcast and it's hard to understand what he's saying and what he's trying to say. He sounds like he's sleepy. I got bored with it. Now Jim Cornette on the other hand, I love his podcast😅.
@@demondsims5411LMAO Jim Cornette is gold, never really heard a lot of his podcast but I just KNOW he's entertainment 😂
I assumed when he said “I tore my quad” that he meant he just tore it while doing his podcast
H meant right then and there 😂😂😂
Lol I seriously made that same joke when I first heard him say that.
Nash got never past getting reamed in that hot summer of '92.
Love how Nash forgets the part where anabolic steroids helped his return
Lol
Nash was never big enough for people to just randomly say he was on Roids, unless he said it himself you really have no right to say that lol
@@Ghost-Face420 just saw a vid yesterday where he said for about 26 months early on when he first broke in.
@@Ghost-Face420 ua-cam.com/video/qAVUVbtbAec/v-deo.html
Also the reason for most of his injuries including his heart being fucked.
I'm not even a big Punk fan but Nash is way off on this one. He sounds jealous and bitter about it and I don't know why.
It’s quite ironic how Kevin is feeling some type of way about this….considering he brags quite often about how him and Scott Hall changed how the economics of the wrestling business started to benefit the workers
We were out to get paid, but we also pretty much started a communist revolution in the business with our coolness alone brother
He tore his quad walking across the ring... To make a tag. 😆
Punk being a part time wrestler and a fulltime presence is great. Keeps it fresh and exciting. Hes up there in age and going week after week is gonna get stale. Look at roman? Part time, well... blue moon wrestler and the people are chanting for him. Its smart business people
You’re being way too logical for a lot of people.
Nash was also on roids before so naturally he heals faster
That’s very true although in the long term large doses of steroids (which Nash was certainly on) can increase injury risk and lower the immune system, possibly because he hadn’t properly healed his quad tears
Or unnaturally. 😅
HEY NASH DOESNT PUT STRANGE SHIT IN HIS VEINS... oh wait... he goes hard for the jab.
EXACTLY, thank you
@@dan7478 fair comment
Cut Nash some slack he's still dealing with PTSD from the 1992 incident
What’s the 1992 incident?
I stopped caring about Kevin Nash when he said the audience was racist for loving LA Knight.
Lol what
Nash was one of the guys who pushed to get that guaranteed money in the first place, you would think he'd be happy things have become more forgiving when it comes to time off for injury.
@StevieRichards Mero joined WWE 3 months before Nash joined WCW, that would mean Mero got his guaranteed contract before Nash even gave his notice.
It was pretty close but yeah, Mero is credited as the first guaranteed money contract in WWE(notwithstanding outliers like Hogan). Foley jokes about him and Austin signing right before Mero and not getting guaranteed money.
If that is True then Marc knew how to work Contracts and such as after all he did come before he was in WCW as Johnny B. Badd he was a former Golden Glover and you know how them ppl make sure they get the money they are promised he took that to both WCW n the WWF as btw dude the WWE didn't exist til like 2002 so Marc never got the chance to work for the WWE in 2002.
My gf was listening and she asked to hear the promo Punk did on Nash. She doesn't know anything about wrestling. She just looked at me and said that was like a comedian on stage burying a heckler. She legit thought Kevin was gonna run to the ring and attack Punk for real😂😂😂
First time watching Stevie Richards. Can't say I expected to see the dude who co-hosts with Dutch here. No complaints.
No quads we're torn during this podcast
Are you sure about that?
@@LiftandCoa I mean I just tore mine watching it.
Just 60 Soma's taken on Kevin's
Love Nash but he’s been so hot and cold on Punk since his WWE return. Nash was notorious for being a backstage politician and being involved in scraps with the boys, but when punk does it Nash is highly critical
Kevin Nash is always running people down. He comes off as jealous to me. Punk was never really pushed by WWE, he got over organically. And he got over EVERYWHERE he went. Nash only got over when he got political and his time w/ the strap was abysmal. Punk is still contributing while he’s injured. Working w/ up and coming stars in NXT. Helping McIntyre, and possibly Rollins, stay relevant w/o the strap. Doing PR for the business. Nash never really did that. Nash was only in it for himself.
Is Nash forgetting that when Punk was a full time guy he worked through multiple injuries?
And what about the style? One stands doing punches and elbows, and one bumps his back off at full speed. The amount of years, and damage Punk put on his body, compared to Nash showing up in WCW coasting the majority of his career in that ring is a massive difference. The schedule Punk endured, the work he put in that ring, is vastly different than what Nash did. Even when Nash was on the WWF tour, his style wasn’t one to take bumps constantly, and every single bump counts to the overall output of one’s body. Nash COULD get surgery, and “work” a PPV, but when Punk works a PPV……he ACTUALLY WORKS. A guy like Punk needs to be truly recovered, especially in this time of his career due to his age and health, and to your point, when he was on the road full time, when he was younger, he worked through multiple injuries for the majority of his run.
@@JesusIsComingSoon316 yeah and maybe if nash let his fucking quads healed properly, they wouldn't keep blowing up lmao
What Punk has been doing without being cleared is probably more than Nash usually did in the ring when he was supposed to be an active wrestler.
Nash doesnt take into account WWE is probably very very careful with him when it comes to his health. They got into a lawsuit once because of what punk said about there doctor at the time.
A lot of the changes WWE has made over the past few years was specifically because of what Punk said. They were damning statements which forced the company to reevaluate their culture and make changes to protect the talent and their health. Happy that Punk is getting to see what impact he made by speaking out.
“Lolol kevin nash thought he was dead” lives rent free in Kevins head🤣
I religiously watched Kevin Nash's podcast weekly word for word but as time went on, he couldn't control his personal vendetta against Punk and his political views completely turned me off him.
Looks like i haven't missed much in the past 9 months.
we get it, you like trump
@@extremeking425... what does a post about Kevin Nash and CM Punk have to do with that blonde wrinkled man? If it's about political views, maybe it's cause ppl would want to hear about wrestling from a wrestler instead of politics.
@@extremeking425 The guy never mentioned Trump.
@@extremeking425we get it, you have dementia
He has the political views of a 40 year old soccer mom.
"I never had a problem with CM Punk."
Kevin Nash just sad that AEW didn't call him after Punk return to WWE. /s
"An antiquated mindset" is a perfect term about Nash's opinions.
New World Boomer.
The irony of the man that started the whole guaranteed contracts thing when he went to WCW complaining about wrestlers with guaranteed contracts
Punk isn't on roids or growth, either, so his recovery time is how long it's going to take an actual human being to recover.
HGH is INSANE for how quickly it lets your body heal and recover even from major injuries.
CM Punk is in the hottest feud in the company and he did it without working a single match. There's no reason for him to be wrestling yet.
Well, that's not entirely true. He had to work a single match to facilitate this injury, which allowed this feud to be possible.
About Kevin Nash’s comment… steroids greatly decrease the chance of getting an injury in pro wrestling and also increase the recovery time of injuries
Ironically the last time Nash was over was when he was buried by the Ninja Turtles.
Damn 😂
Idk , there was that whole nWo thing after Ninja Turtles… that was pretty fucking over wouldn’t you say?
Gnarly🤣
Oh. How edgy. Except you know. The nwo thing
That NWO thing was over because of Hogan and Bischoff, you think the outsiders would of stayed big if it was just the two of them? They would of went back to WWF/E by 98
Literally 30 seconds in and we get the usual reminder Nash tore his quad. Dudes sick of the joke but always brings it up.
These podcast wars are more interesting than today's wrestling. 😅
I know you’re joking but the bloodline story might be a top 5 all time in the business
@@4thrasher4 no way
It's literally just Nash saying "I'm better than the guys today" like he did with LA Knight. Be quiet grandpa, things were worse in your day and your deformed leg proves that
@IStevenSeagal yeah what about it?
@IStevenSeagal what does him being in the nwo have to do with how injuries are treated now? Nothing kid.
Punk has drew more in his absence than Nash when he was active. Cornette isn't a guy I am a huge fan of like most but he's right. Nash is by far the most overrated guy in history. He's a terrible promo, terrible in the ring and was only billed highly because he had 3-4 friends who actually could draw
Punk won’t shoot steroids and use painkillers like Nash
Punk doesn't have the great 'hair flip' move that Nash perfected.🙃
Punk is a boring sloppy wrestler who's moves are completely unbelievable In a bad way. He's great on a mic should have been a manager
@@joshuabailey2746imagine being this wrong.
@joshuabailey2746 Yeah cause Nash was a great wrestler right? lmfao
Punk is definitely on PEDs
Nash always seemed bombed
Not a fan of either guy, but definitely less for Kevin. He just seems bitter and upset.
"Kids these days don't even work hurt anymore"
What a "man yells at cloud" thing to say.
I’m a big Nash fan and a bigger punk fan, but did Kev not talk about drinking beers and talking for 5 min for most of his peak in WCW without working in the ring?
What about they are working this recovery?, Clearly they wouldnt let punk have physical interaction if he wasnt cleared. This is clearly a way to extend the story and its working fine.
Bingo. In the old days, they probably would’ve had Punk work hurt. But the culture has changed. They protect the talent now. And they found a way to get one of their biggest stars involved in the storyline yet still protect him for the big business this summer.
I stopped listening to Kevin Nash's podcast long ago. Nash seems like he does dislike Punk, likely because Punk owned him on the mic in 2011, and Nash still hasn't got over it.
That's how I felt when I used to listen to his podcast too
Well we know that Nash doesn't like those "vanilla midgets" either. So Punk is a small guy and indie garbage using Nash logic
Kev's entitled to his views but like alot of older wrestlers, all he does is complain now. He says he does it for the heat/attention. I'm not sure I believe him.
He's turned into......Bret Hart.🙃 (funny how you get that way when you don't have the 'stroke'/'power' behind the scenes anymore).
@@tomvu1470At least Bret is almost always right. Nash is a narcissist.
@@tomvu1470name a time bret was wrong. not bitter, but flat out wrong like nash
He's working a grift with Sean.
@@johnstamos5948 Amen.
If Kevin Nash was 6’0 he’d STILL be a bouncer at a hole in the wall club. At least Scott hall had talent. But not Kevin. Right place, right time
Exactly. He's done an amazing job convincing everyone around him he is some kind of reninisaunce man genius lmao.
@@StewartLucrative a professional narcissist. It’s all about the game, and how you play it
I’m so glad Stevie has channel now. I appreciate his insight and wisdom of the business
Also Punk is a lot older than Nash was when he tore his tricep
no excuse look at Nash big guy strong not a skinny wimp like Punk
@@davidcoombsbestmegadethalb9780Hes not that strong, i remember him rolling around crying about his quad... meanwhile a HHH would finish the match.
@@YippeeMK you fight him then plus he was acting not real you know I remember that
@@YippeeMK hhh is a legit badass. dude will go no matter what, another example is him getting ice injury at his mania entrance back then.
@@watersandblue6001 he tore the one quad (left) first time was in 2001-2002 and 2007 his right quad
From other interviews I’ve seen of Nash, he talks about texting Punk and being friends. This is how Nash talks when he’s questioning things in the business. I’ve heard him speak this way in reference to Michael’s and HHH.
Punk is still going to make business even if he is Injured, Nash also seems like he would say something but not willing to die on that hill, so I can't take his comments that seriously
I’m no wrestler but I will say with no guaranteed income I broke my clavicle bone In 4 spots and was back to work on full duty in 3 weeks. Money definitely makes the difference on how long you’ll allow yourself to heal
It does sound like a personal issue. Plus, HHH and Punk had legit beef so I’m sure that adds to Nash’s issue with Punk.
HAD beef. Past tense. It’s been well documented that Punk and HHH have made up with how much they praise one another now since they’ve both grown up.
Whatever Nash’s issues are with Punk are Nash’s alone.
“I tore my tricep had it reconnected and didn’t miss a ppv” thats on him if he doesn’t give time to heal. I bet he had to get that same surgery later on
I think Kevin Nash is still Hurt from the Jokes ...CM PUNK made about him in his promos in 2011!!! Wrestlers have HUGE egos ...and his EGO is still Hurt I guess lol !!! QUOTE CM PUNK from 2011 : "Yeah "THE KLIQUE", is the noise the audiences remote control makes everytime Kevin Nash pops up on their TV Screen... KLIQUE, KLIQUE KLIQUE." 😂🤣😂
To be fair, the summer of punk only drew iwc fans and nothing more... nonwithstanding Nash's lameness since the nwo got jobbed out in wwe... heck he even had to do the job to hunter... well again so did punk, they're more similar than they'd like to think heh...
@@carlosnn8150the summer of punk attracted old wrestling fans not only IWC. People were tired of cena and punk was a hope. Then they killed and bitched the whole cm punk summer angle. But cm punk still made it and became a star regardless
@@ayoubsaad800 idk, the casuals like me who liked attitude and ruthless aggression who were ran off by supercena didnt care, altho yeah it was worse that they killed it rather than having a payoff, guess it would have helped if punk wasnt an irl dick backstage
Ugh, yes, how Vince took a storyline that legit had 6-12 months+ of juice in it and blew it in about 7 weeks.
@@ayoubsaad800 i was tired of supercena too, but waffle house indierific guy didnt exactly seem appealing to me or other attitude/ruthless aggression casuals, that said i agree that vince blew the storyline too soon, pg era and roman/rollins/mcintyre as top guys was even worse
Nash wasn't medically cleared to wrestle Punk because of a heart medication he was on in 2011 or so.
Allegedly. I still think Nash probably didn’t want to lay down for Punk so he pulled a “I’m sick” card. Funny how it magically cleared up in time for Nash to wrestle his buddy HHH soon afterwards.
Sometimes Nash sounds so off the wall bonkers, I have to accept his excuse for how much of a dick he seemed like on who killed WCW. He said he did it in character
Nash talks that way because he was able to con 10 times more money than his talent warrants
F CM Punk for working for a company that is much more careful and talent friendly thanks likely to HHH one of the boys being in charge. Vince didn’t let people go on leave for family and Randy and other people have repeatedly said the company is better than it’s ever been because they understand the importance of family. That same understanding would logically carry over into injury timelines
Can't go on holiday, but youre not an employee, it was pathetic
Can't work for anybody else either , but you're an independent contractor 😂
It gives me a lot of optimism that this generation of wrestlers will have a much better time in their later years than previous generations due to the additional care given to them and the care for the wrestlers with their families.
People didn’t realize until now that it was Vince’s fault Randy was injured for almost 2 years. Randy came to him and begged him to get a less intense schedule and Vince told him no and that he needed Randy to keep working those house shows. 😠 What a pig. Vince was so greedy for every penny that he wore Randy out to the point where his body nearly gave out for good. And this is RANDY ORTON, one of the biggest stars of the modern era. Who made Vince so much money yet Vince couldn’t give Randy that one break to help preserve his body.I’m so glad Vince is gone and is never again coming back to the company.
Im sorry, but while Vince has done alot of bullcrap - most of those changes can be directly dedicated to him and his management.
Trips makes it *EVEN BETTER* but these things existed beforehand.
Wasnt Nash the guy who basically ushered in the era of guaranteed contracts? I think he's just fishing for his flowers.
Look at it like this. Punk and drew have made the best out of this situation. Punk hasn't wrestled since the rumble and seeing a match between drew and punk is a must watch over seeing Seth and priest. Their story telling in this has been great and he's getting the views. Just as many views as a AEW pay perview lol
The upside of the guaranteed pay is that you're gonna have less instances of guys dying in their 40's and 50's.
The downside is that some guys who aren't as good will be able to buy a house.
Punk being injured is like the first Jaws movie. They don't show the shark til the end of the movie because they couldn't get it to work. They are building a story "outside" of the ring without using an actual match between the two to progress a story.
It feels more that Nash is annoyed that Punk thinks he did anything to change the industry. Nash with Hall helped make guaranteed money a thing for wrestlers when they went to WCW. Punk literally did nothing to change the industry. He cried, was fired and got beaten up in the UFC. Shawn and Hunter stayed and with Stephanie they changed the WWE and made it what it is today. It’s crazy to think the clique has truly revolutionized the modern wrestling industry.
So many of the old wrestling personalities are toxic and bitter and it sucks to see the older generation be so negative and hateful to a lot of the younger people, they should be more on their side and more positive to them but thats with a lot of older generations to younger ones, im a huge nba fan and it can be very similar there too
"Kids these days are so entitled (to employee rights)" attitudes, go look back at some of the ways they spoke about the younger generation centuries ago, it's hilarious, it was EXACTLY the same
is there any term more beta than toxic? maybe the older generation is too negative but the younger generation is also too soft
You make it seem like the younger generations aren't equally guilty of completely dismissing the older generation's achievements and often their advice. ESPECIALLY the young NBA fans, many of them have absolutely no respect for the older generations at all. It was not this bad in the 90's and a lot of it stems from younger fans shitting on guys that they never even saw which turned a lot of older fans against the younger players. It goes both ways, but as for the NBA that absolutely started because of how they began to dismiss past legends, I still remember when all of that started.
Its not just in wrestling either. Older generations have an intense hatred of younger people these days.
@@bb-gc2tx Why? Because they're not addicted to pills, stabbing each other in the back, dying in their 50s, or aren't stupid enough to work right after an injury? How soft of them.
“I never had a problem with Punk” -Nash
Paused at slightly over a minute in.
1) Nash is the last one who should be decrying guaranteed money.
2) Back by the next PPV, didn't Kevin tear his quad and then in his very first match back, tear his quad like 2 minutes in?
On 2, yes he did, HBK tagged him in, he took one or two steps as I recall and his knee went out almost immediately as I recall. However I seem to recall that was after Kev had to have his hair cut due to story. Correct me if I am wrong, didn't Shawn Michaels lose the match on Kevin's behalf? I recall Kevin having a buzz cut when the injury happened. It have thinking on 2 different occurrences of quad tears, I apologise for that.
@@WolfkinNorthclaw Oh God, that means he did it SEVERAL times. I was specifically thinking of a match with Hall and Hogan on his team.
Staying home too long really rings hollow coming from a guy with that frequency of the same injury
He tore it in seven seconds of action.
@@KokNoker Oh yeah! I remember now! The match I was thinking of he just came back from that injury only to go out with the same injury.
@@Jeff_Pryce mmhmm
It got worse when Punk mentioned about Colt sharing his account with his elderly mother and tried to make fun of it which he did crossed a line. Nash was right to get on him about that.
rare moment where Nash seems sober
Nope, he was loaded on red wine, as usual.
Nash lacks self-awareness when it comes to pointing fingers at others about things he himself have experienced or done himself.
He just really has never learned to keep his opinions to himself. Most times, its okay, but sometimes its obvious that he has his own blinders on sometimes.
Nash still pissed at Punk for getting buried on the Mic, like 13 Years ago.
This is coming from a kliq fan and I remember that show clearly and I laughed my ass off. What Punk said was funny but I could tell Kev was genuinely pissed.
@@manbearpig7359yeah but fwiw nash said he was limited by the script... but yeah tbh the somas took a toll on him, last good promos he did was in paparazzi tv in tna ... and im no punk fan either
Wrestling is fake, wtf do u mean bury him on the mic? It was written in the script that punk get the one up over Nash in the fake wrestling promo because Nash was the storyline bad guy..... imagine being this much of a mark.
@@mrcool1519 agreed, specially in the post attitude era when everything is scripted. you can tell marks fell for it in the comments, well rly only the indierific ones heh. as for the rest, perhaps the issue was that the burial wasnt believable as much, as nash was perceived as too much of a cool heel/tweener to take it like that (specially those that had just seen him on tna being funnier and wittier). perhaps nash needed to be more cruel/brutal both inring and in promos to make up for it, without actually being funny nor getting over... somehow. tbh its kinda hard to get over punk as face, one has to be less cool than him... somehow. maybe bc of that they decided to switch it to nash getting buried by hunter... then again punk also was buried by hunter, sad...
@carlosnn8150 You probably should not be so condescending when you yourself don't fully understand how promos work.
You are 100 percent correct that many, if not most promos are almost word for word scripted, but the top talent do get some leeway and are either given bullet points and/or direction on how the promo is going go.
Generally if a wrestler plans to say something that may be personal, controversial, or even just a bit beyond what is normally acceptable then he/she will run it past their opponent so they are not blindsided.
At times however, and for whatever reason, be it personal animosity, an attempt to get one up on their rival, or just to make it seem "more real" a wrestler will say something in their promo that genuinely upsets their opponent.
As an example take a look at John Cena/Rock 1 promos where Cena talks about Rock writing his promo material on his forearm. That was not in the script or cleared with Rock beforehand and he was pissed off. Cena even apologised for it in a recent interview.
So yes, I have no doubt that while Punk was scripted to go over on the mike, but at least a part of what he said was off the cuff and pissed big Kev off
I really enjoy what you have to say about wrestling and your analyses, thanks you Stevie
So back in 2012 when CM Punk was champion he had a torn meniscus and had to get surgery. 3 weeks after the surgery Punk was in a table, ladders and chairs match against Ryback. And certain people were complaining or upset that he came back way too soon. Now people are complaining that he isn’t back after having surgery on his arm. Honestly at this point with Nash it’s just jealousy that Punk is more over then Nash ever was. Plus Nash tore his quad twice during his wrestling career and was out for almost a damn year. And if you listen to Punk during the press conferences he always says that he feels great and wants to get back in the ring but HHH and others are telling him to wait and not rush it. It’s damn if you do or damn you if you don’t with Nash. Oh and also In most WWE contracts it states that if you have to miss time cause you got hurt and have to get surgery, the time you missed gets added on towards the end of your contract to make up the time you missed.
As someone who has torn my bicep from the bone in my forearm. I absolutely say that you need to take the time to heal before you get back to work. I’m a steel worker and I would have only hurt myself further if I didn’t do the PT and exercise and get the muscle working properly. No matter the profession, injuries like that take surgery and time to heal properly and it takes longer the older you get. Nash is awesome but he is being salty here.
Nash was too money focused. If he had more passion for the business he would be considered amongst of the best. But he only ever worried about paycheck so probably doesn't crack the top 100 of all time
I'm saddened by the fact that he put money over his family. It took him losing his son Tristan a few yrs back (poor boy wasn't even 30 when he passed) to make him realize he was wrong.
Now it's too late.
@@jeangentry6656 How did he put money over his family?
@@mydnyghtamethyst by always being on the road, and not with his family.
0:29 could be the thumbnail for Nash's life.
the punk v drew storyline is the best thing ive seen in years. its gold
The guaranteed contract meme is something Hall and Nash started 20 years ago. Yeah, there's some truth to it, and yeah, they got great contracts. But it's simply not true that they were trailblazers. Even in the territory days there were guaranteed contracts.