A viewer sent me his V30 speakers to test...
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- Опубліковано 5 сер 2024
- What's up everyone? Zoltan, a true legend, sent me his late 2020 Celestion Vintage 30s with Y batch cones to test and find out of these already fall into the (possibly, sadly) short lived new smooth V30 era or not...
So I popped them in my Grossman iso cab and gave them a spin
00:00 What am I doing here?
01:08 What have I done so far (for those who missed it)
02:29 I don't understand unboxing videos
03:36 Inspecting the speakers
04:21 Evaluating the frequency response graphs
06:11 Why did I make this video?
09:10 Sound Clip - 2019 Reference
09:23 Sound Clip - 2020 Y41 Cone
09:56 Sound Clip - 2022 Reference
10:19 Sound Clip - 2020 Y40 Cone
10:42 Sound Clip - 2020 Mesa Reference
love how this quest starts to wind down and then gets blown wide open again... haha
That is unbelievably on point. Lol
Yes. Thanks Zoltran.
I actually got a cab yesterday with a pair of 2021 V30ies with the Y cone. I shot them out against some 2003 v30ies and it wasnt even close. I basically saw identical results to what youve shown herem Thanks for all your hard work mate!
the Vintage 30's here sound like they are actually different speaker models instead of different production runs of the same speaker. I think you should buy 100 vintage 30's fresh from celestions and run the same test to see if normal production variation is the cause ;) ... only 1/2 kidding.
Been too long since I've watched Dude Where is my Car. Thanks for reminding me.
Watch of for the Llamas
I've got nothing to say... but that still counts...
And I for one appreciate it!
Please do a test on the Mojotone BV30 V!
I will. They are on the "must test" list
idk, by far I prefer the 2019 model - I'm not hearing the harsh "machine" sounds - I'm hearing more clarity and less clipping/scooping of the mids, but maybe those who like the early 2000's and 2022 model prefer more scooped mids for metal???
personally I don't really use much other than my amp distortion and I'm typically looking for more mid range/high end boost for the crystal clear sparkly highs and smooth mids with less low end so hard to say, very subjective to anyones personaly opinion here.
for reference I'm running a prs swamp ash special with mccarty pickups and blackstar club 50 - but it's slightly modified to get more high gain out of it.
I typcailly play it mixed with a 2x12 celestion v30's and 4x12 with eminence legend v128s - the legends provide the sparkly highs and the v30's provide the thump - granted I'm probably going to eventually get rid of the 4x12 and run two 2x12's - it's just too big and I'm mostly just playing in my studio so the 4x12 is way overkill
I for one don't need to see the actual unboxing - I prefer just an "exploded" view of all the contents as a brief intro where it makes sense.
Also I find these shorter videos as addition to the speaker-roundup great!
Cheers (to Zoltan as well of course!)
I do not. But it might allow you to see how well the product was packed and if it is a repack or not.
John, have you compared the response of any vintage 30 alternatives like Warehouse Guitar Speakers Veteran 30 or Retro 30 to the early 2000s / 2021-22 batches? Since it’s difficult for most of us to check batch codes before we buy speakers, I wondered if there’s an alternative that would allow average consumers to guarantee a sound similar to the more beloved V30 speakers. Thanks for all your work!
It's in the works!
@@TheOtherJohnBrownecan’t wait to see what you end up doing with the v30 alternatives John. The eminence cv75 is another one which I reckon would be a killer speaker. I have the Weber grey wolf and silver wolf which are also in the v30 camp, worth a look imo.
Yeah! I have one "non scientific" test of one coming out today.
I'd love to try a CV-75 but nobody in Europe is selling them at the moment. I wonder if they have been discontinued.
The Weber speakers also look very intetesting but they are very expensive here. There is just one retailer here and he demands a premium and shipping costs about as much as the speaker when ordering directly from Weber
@@TheOtherJohnBrowne Legend.
I'd also recommend the 8ohm mojotone greyhound 70w speaker. It's got the perfect v30 sound. A very balanced sounding speaker.
Have you tried the 2024 models? is it in the same line as 2022? I have had several mesa cabs in v30 2012, 2008 and a 2017 engl and all 3 were very mediocre and harsh in the treble. On the other hand, I heard old mesa cabs in v30 which were incredible. the 2022 v30s look really good. you probably already explain this in your videos but my English is not great 🤦
Hey man. I have not tried any V30s newer than December of 2022 and those were pretty much back to the tones of the speaker from between 2005 and 2021. It seems the smooth period from 2021/22 was short lived.
2024 here, did Celestion go back to the "regular" formula already?
It appears the V30 went back to the way it was in 2022 already but this is anecdotal
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How are you dating the cone batch codes? I've only found info on the frame and/or sticker codes. I've got Marshall G12's with P30 and R11 codes (all 444) in a cab made in 2015. Thanks!
I can't really date them as such but I have observed a pattern on all my speakers. From 2001/2002 on, the cones started to have this alpha numerical code that moves up in alphabetical order through the years. The numbers seem to be in reference to the letter.
By 2021/22 they ended up at Z. After that they reversed the order of numberd and letter and went back to A.
I have a 2014 with P18 on the cone and a very early 2016 with R28 on the cone, so the cones on your G12 are era correct.
@@TheOtherJohnBrowne Thank you. It's interesting to see that the alphanumeric format is consistent across all the flavors- U.K., China, Mesa, Marshall, etc...
@@divebomb99 proof they all use the same parts
@@TheOtherJohnBrowne My thinking exactly. If the cone recipes were significantly different I would think they would denote it on there in some way. There may (or may not) still be differences with the other components, but your hard work builds a great body of evidence.
Not just you. I got a 4i4 so I could do proper reamping after my Solo proved to be impractical.
Yeah. I've been a Scarlett user for well over a decade. I used a 2nd gen 6i6 for the longest time and it was perfect for my needs... except when using the Focusrite control software when trying to reamp. I just can't figure that program out. Everytime I'd battle for ages with either no signal or screaming feedback. I know I am not the smartest peanut in the turd but I recently jumped ship to Audient and I could not be happier
I was trying to hunt down the more "classic" and "smoother" sounding V30 and the only one I could find was a T3903 / 444 from 1999... and I ordered it. I guess I won't know until I play it, but did I make a huge mistake?
No. It will probably sound great
@TheOtherJohnBrowne Thanks! That's a relief coming from you, haha! I'll be curious to hear how different it is from your tested year 2000 speaker of the same codes.
I was going to point out your “and then” as being very dude where’s my car and there you go ahead and mention it
Imagine there were severed heads in the box and your camera wasn’t running because you hate unboxing videos 😢
I AM INNOCENT! I SWEAR! THE FOIL IN THIS ROOM IS TO COVER CABS FROM DUST! I PROMISE
...the official speaker of Cattle Decapitation.
Do you like watching unboxing videos? If so, please tell me why
no, get to the heart of the matter. Too many you tubers jabber on and on about stuff not related to the actual subject
I hate unboxing videos. Just show me if it was damaged due to crap packaging. Also can’t stand “NGD” posts and they post a picture of just the unopened box or the gear still in the plastic wrapping.
Yeah. Many people love them and my friends do them too. I probably couldn't pull it off though as personally, I don't really watch those videos, nor do I see a lot of value in them. The only way I could imagine it, would be in an over the top comedic fashion by using a giant machete or chain saw or something