I would love to see you do a "guess the MLM" style video where you play random clips with the name censored and we can try to guess what MLM they're from
“One hairstylist referenced one Monat product and all of a sudden the Kardashians now use Monat, this is Ludacris!” Monet huns: “ Ludacris uses Monat!” 😂
"Pouring into you" and "getting plugged in" come out of the Protestant Evangelical churches many of these MLM huns attend. Examples: "Get plugged in to our weekly home groups" and "Pastor Tay poured into us a great teaching yesterday."
If a company has physical stores and online shopping, there’s literally no reason for them to start a “direct selling” portion if they’re not trying to cash in on an MLM scam…
I was in a LLR group when they released the new sweatshirts called “Amber”. The consultant decided to list all the sweatshirts with the caption “Amber Alert 🚨”. I commented how that seemed insensitive and promptly got kicked out of the group lol
I’m bipolar and when companies claim that they’ve “helped” people stop taking their meds…. With no mention of talking to your doctor first or the risks involved…like I can’t… I really can’t. It’s so dangerous. Like life threatening in some cases. WHY? So you can make a Commission and then tell everyone that you now have financial freedom? Don’t you think if a vitamin would solve a mental health diagnosis everyone and their mother would be taking it?
I have been WAITING for Beyonce'a stylist to get called out. We went to hair school together. And when she started doing Beyoncé's hair, I was soooo excited for her. Someone from our town making it bigggg! BUT, it's been disappointing to see her move to Monat.
Soooo strange she’d feel the need to join an MLM considering she’d already reached success??? But I could see having a platform already helping create a down line 🥴
@@meghansullivan6812 100%. I can almost guarantee that she’s not using any of those products on herself. But it’s just to gain more money and finances because of her platform
Agree with this! You don’t have to toss it if you like it. You bought it before you knew so wearing it now isn’t supporting the business model or anything
I’m an attorney and all I can think listening to the “mental wellness company” is wait until a child is harmed or causes harm because they were suffering from a mental illness and some “boss babe” told their parent to give them some supplement instead of seeking medical help. The lawsuits that will come…
It can and has happened with physical illnesses as well. watch some of hannah's horror stories vids and hear for yourself... as someone with innumerable chronic illnesses, I am so glad my mom keeps her essential oils to herself
I'm not a lawyer, but isn't it illegal to make these sorts of claims that X product will heal Y illness if you take it? Isn't that considered practicing medicine without a license?
@@EC_123-h8i yes, but it would be in violation of the FD&C act I believe. Essentially, if they make such claims, the product falls under the category of a medication and without going through the usual hoops you have to for FDA approval, then they would get in trouble if reported to the FTC and FDA. I'm not sure about the practicing being a doctor without a license charge, could be possible but it might be a bit of a stretch so long as they aren't diagnosing people.
Hi Hannah! I wanted to leave a comment about the “pouring into” and “plugged into” phrases. These aren’t unique to MLMs. These sayings, and many more, are very frequently used in Christian circles and at larger mega churches. I am a Christian myself, but I cringe at these sayings. “Pouring into” means investing in or mentoring. So someone with an intentional mother or father might say they “really poured into me”. “Plugged in” just means they’re getting involved and invested. Just wanted to add that! P.S. not all Christians say these cringey phrases or buy into MLMs. I am about to graduate with my BA in Biblical Studies and I can see the faith manipulation and twisting of Christianity in these “companies”.
Mega churches seem like the closest thing to devil worship on the planet, but I'm not religious so who am I to say idolatry and public prayer are sinful?
What’s so hilarious about huns holding up Dave Ramsey as an “idol” is that he specifically says that the way to make money in MLMs is to get good at recruiting people who are good at recruiting, not by selling the products. He also says it’s a big red flag if the company isn’t upfront about being and MLM. 🤣
Yes! I just looked up a clip of him discussing this very thing. He said on that video from September 2023 and I quote “ If you tell me, you’re going into an MLM as a part-time job to make extra money I will tell you you’re a fool.” he said 73% of people who go into an MLM lose money. And he said that was a high statistic. This woman irritates me saying she’s coming from Dave Ramsey. This does not sound like what Dave Ramsey would say. I listen to him a lot. In fact, my husband and I are on the baby steps to pay off our house in the next year. And we’ve only owned the house for three.
@@Darc815UA-cam suggested some Dave Ramsey videos to me before I came across anti MLM and that's quite recently. I'm currently binging Hannah's playlist. It is so surprising to me why would huns like him. I haven't seen many of his videos, but he always says do not add to your debt (like opening a new credit card to pay for starter pack is probably not something he'd recommend). "Your car payment is how much?! Sell your fancy car and buy something for $1000 that will take you from A to B" not "Get a fancy car that you can't easily pay off and will probably get you into more debt for nice IG picks" What am I missing here?
Even if they spent zero on products, $1,000 a month isn't even minimum wage! It sounds like a lot in passing, but that's $12,000 a year. Even now you can make 4 times that much working 9-5 at McDonalds! When I first started working I was making double that with health and dental AND discounted rent (worked as a leasing agent) and was considered poor in the city I lived in!
This is so disappointing. I’ve personally experienced Kendra Scott’s philanthropic efforts. She gifted matching jewelry to moms and daughters in the cardiac ICU for Valentine’s Day in 2021 when my daughter had heart surgery. I’ve always had a soft spot for the company since then, but this is so disappointing!
It is very disappointing. Especially because it then makes you wonder if it was even done with good intentions, or as a way to use someone’s hard situation to form an emotional bond with a product, their product namely. I experienced something like this when I did a yoga teacher training. My emotions were high as were other students, and I think that can sometimes be used by unethical people to garner something from it, loyalty etc. so sorry, and wishing your family so much health and wellness. Remember good people are out there just as much as these garbage ones.
Don't let their present behaviour change your good memory! It was still a very sweet thing to do at the time, they obviously got new management or something like that so I definitely wouldn't support them now but they clearly did a nice thing for you when you needed it most, keep this as a precious memory between your daughter and you ❤️
There was a caring person behind the kindness you felt. Don't forget what was a positive and make it negative. I think you could wear what you were gifted without any shame! If someone asks about your jewelry, talk about the experience not the name brand.
I work in Child Welfare - and they have gifted sooo much to our local agency - not in jewelry but actual dollars to be used to help the caseworkers get their jobs done better. I'm heartbroken that it's true. I'd heard rumors but wasn't sure if it actually happened. Thanks to Hannah for wearing one in another video I came looking to confirm (so I actually think it's a good thing that she was wearing it - it alerted me to check it out).
What I found the most amazing is that they don't even try to make look like they are teaching people how to sell their products, they are teaching people how to sell the business
"Pouring into people" is something I heard a lot when I used to be Christian, so I think it might come from there. I've found religious people tend to say it when they want to support someone, pray for them, try to evangelize them, etc.
None of them know what the real meaning is of "residual income." Drives me crazy! Residual income is income someone continues to receive after the completion of the income-producing work. The boss babes are still DOING WORK for their MLM 'bizness' so it's not residual....it's just income! Grrrrr
Yes! I was looking for this comment. The “expert” saying residual income multiple times made my skin crawl. I needed to confirm someone else in the world was hearing that and reacting to it as well.
Hi Hanna, just want to add that being a Ramsey Financial Coach doesn’t mean you are a Financial Expert. Its an online course where you pay $3500+++ in 45 days. Its basically also sort of an MLM. Dave Ramsey’s former co host is also connected to Primerica and he is chummy with Amway. I used to be a fan but no respectable financial guru can ignore the financial harms of MLM.
Thank you for that clarification! I’m not surprised that there’s an MLM connection. I used the term “expert” because the first woman used the term “expert” to describe the second woman, but that’s for clarifying that it’s not the same thing as a coach ☺️
@@HannahAlonzo If you only knew how many MLM huns here pretend to be “Financial Experts”, thanks for this video, it inspired me to do a video on the Dave Ramsey of the Philippines (Chinkee Tan) he literally said on one of his training videos, MLM is 80% inviting and 20% selling, that we all know that definition is 100% a pyramid scheme.
Also he is being sued for racial discrimination and fired a pregnant woman for premarital sex and violating their moral code . It’s problematic at least .
@@heatherforster5962 I will say he also fired the man involved. Because they both signed forms saying they will follow the teachings of Jesus. And since they can't hide a pregnany. Both involved were fired.
@@patriciawills32 as someone who works in HR, asking people to sign contracts that dictate things like that outside of their work is problematic at best. You can't dictate what people do on their personal time away from their job. He is just a terrible person!
Yeah, if endra Scott wasn't adding/changing to an MLM model, instead of saying, "...with no emphasis on recruitment or building teams...." they'd say, "...with no recruitment or team building." Also, in one of the clips at the end, one of the two women said the magic words, "attraction marketing." When they say "attraction marketing," I think that it's more likely going to be "affinity fraud."
This company kills me. I suffer from anxiety and depression and this is truly dangerous. They’re begging for a lawsuit because someone did something awful because they went off their meds for this bs.
Please don’t throw away your jewelry if you love it!! (Not wearing it in anti-mlm videos is one thing, but don’t throw it away!!) Maybe if someone asks you about it you can say it’s just a really good knock-off??? 🤷🏻♀️ Seriously though, I love your videos and am binging them!! Thank you for all your hard work! 🙏🏻
I’m feeling this way too. My husband has bought me a KS piece for every holiday and birthday since we’ve been together. I hate that they’ve gone this way but my jewelry is special to me because they were gifts.
Agreed! Don't throw your jewelry away, keep enjoying the things you love. Your (or your loved one's) money has already been spent. Future purchases can go elsewhere but please don't feel bad about pieces already in your collection.
I never used Amere but I was convinced not to take meds for my anxiety/depression but to use EO's. I am thankfully no longer in that cultlike mentality and have started my medication again.
The mention of people going off their meds for Clip 4 is so infuriating and predatory! As someone on anti-depressants and who will be on them for life, I remember a time before I came to terms with being on meds long term. It was such a struggle and [TRIGGER WARNING] I did end up hospitalized when I tried to stop taking them by myself. I'm much better now and glad for my meds and take them regularly - but I know there would have been a point that a non-medication option would have been super enticing to me. And I know so many have been tempted by that idea too even if it's not what would be best for them. Sometimes meds aren't right for someone but it's so dangerous for random MLM hun to suggest that for others ...
I too am on an anti-depressant and I thank GOD for it. I have joked that I would be the spokesperson for the one that I am on because it works SO well and greatly improves the quality of my life. I hate how so many people act like it’s shameful to take them
This is so true and so important! I’m sorry you’ve struggled with mental health issues, and I can really relate. I’m very glad you’re doing better and found something that helps you significantly. What these people are doing is SO dangerous, even potentially life-threatening in some cases, and I wonder if they are breaking the law by practicing medicine without a license.
i got a kendra scott as a gift from my mom so its very special to me! just as long as no one in the future goes “hey hun! i noticed you wearing kendra scott..” 😂 no thank you ma’am or sir!
As someone who is on an anti-depressant I will say that I do approach my mental wellbeing holistically because I have learned so much more about my mind, body, and triggers. Taking a supplement and assuming it will cure all my woes doesn’t seem very “holistic” in my view. I fell into the wellness world (has its own issues without mlms…) and what was most damaging to me was constantly being pulled in different directions looking for all the answers from others. I feel bad for all the huns in this mlm who are struggling with their mental wellness. Also, I just started taking my daily multi-vitamins again. They make me feel much better, but I didn’t have to join a biz opportunity or ditch my meds.
Exactly. It’s so strange because my doctor who treats my anxiety/depression recommends multi-vitamins or whatever you’re low on so they’re not wrong to think vitamins help but 1. To act like doctors only want you on hard drugs is false, 2. Random collections of vitamins chosen at random is not more successful than medical treatment, 3. You can buy vitamins for cheap at the grocery store!
We'll never help women until we get rid of the idea that a regular job is a bad thing. I used to buy into that myth (I'm in my 50s, so staying home was more common when I married). I work that full time job now, 7-5, and make waaaay more money. We've earned security, flex time, vacations, and I'm paying off our new house in two years instead of 30. JOBS are awesome sometimes!
This financial one is especially puzzling. Investment advisors already, 'set their own schedule' and have, 'unlimited earning potential.' They don't need an MLM for that.
with amere, the fact they just call it “the company” just makes it sound like a cult lady claims she’s a researcher. why not conduct a double blind control trial with the product and a placebo. then have a third party evaluate your results
Re the language of MLMs - I'm currently reading "Cultish: The Language of Fanaticism," by Amanda Montell. It's so good and explains the usage, effects, and power of cultish language and explores why some people are more susceptible to it than others.
At the 30 minute mark, where she explicitly lays out the recruit 5 - pyramid scheme : holy moly! That was so dumb. I notice this all the time with huns that are my friends. I live in Utah, so I know more than a few! They speak all the time about their success, but rarely talk about what the business is. It's just 'success'. You can't make money fron success. Success is the result, not the method.
Dave Ramsey’s take on MLM is refreshingly honest. I’d search it on UA-cam. He basically says that success in MLM requires becoming a master recruiter, motivator, and retainer of a sales team. He stops short of saying the model is fraudulent
@UCvtyMwyocVeEE2-pP-tQMRw Didn’t know that about him. My beef is his dogmatism about debt (although I took his advice and currently have none!) Some debt is good in the right circumstances, just not the type he counsels his listeners about
Dave Ramsey pretty much supports mlms. He's Said on calls that he knows.people that have "suceeded" and that it can be good business. What he forgets to mention Is that he's friends with people that started these mlm companies and they are rich by creating a pyramid scheme
MLMs claiming people use their products that don't is so prevalent that the anti MLM weightloss support group I am in on Facebook asks that anyone who posts before and after pictures in the group puts the words No MLM on their photos to stop the huns that have snuck into the group from stealing the photos to promote their products. Unfortunately this came along after several photos were taken from the group.
Wait. I'm confused. I always thought "doing good for your community" meant a business sponsoring a kid's sports team or donating money to a park or the business adopting a section of road to pick up litter - - - it really just means opening a business? That's it??? Also-just thought of this: Can Monat's Compliance Division fine a Monat rep for making a wild unauthorized claim? Seems like if a MLM company wants to stop this kind of thing, all they would have to do is levy a monetary fine and the huns would quickly stop.
Clip 5: I always ask people for their Gross Amount after expenses (their own purchases, tax, etc) or show me your P+L (profit and loss statement). Most don't have a clue... and they call themselves "business people". The thing is there is a big tax free income threshold here in Australia so someone earning only $1000 would fall into that threshold and be 'tax free'. Yet still, after her own expenses... i'm glad it was her wake up call. I wish it would other people.
As I watched this video, I stumbled upon a reels on Instagram where a Monat rep called herself a "shampoo dealer" and I instantly knew she was a Monat rep, still I checked her profile to make sure. Shampoo dealer is such a weird term to describe yourself 🥴
22:37 So she mentions people having to get a credit card for emergencies then ending up in debt unable to pay it off and how terrible that is...and yet she probably would pressure someone to put their MLM order on a credit card saying it's "an investment" snd they'll "pay it off with the first order they sell!"
With the amount of “helping people” these MLM huns “do” the world is really in a “better place”. Every time I am watching them it feels like I am watching a parody.
“Social retail” is another term. You need to look up what Modere is doing now with there social retail 2.0. They actually said that Amazon is going to be begging them for advice because it is so revolutionary. It’s ridiculous.
If I had a hair stylist/hair dresser that started touting Monat I'd get up and walk out. Middle of a cut? Oh well, someone else can fix it. Shampoo in my hair? No worries, it's fine. (Unless she's using Monat.) Leave my final payment at the door and never be back. No responsible hair stylist would use that on themselves knowing the lawsuits.
I had a lady reach out to me about Amare. She didn’t use the name but she sent me like a 3 min voice message. Basically saying how much she loves me and my family for a min. 🤨 ive never met her. She just follows me. Then she brought up struggling with depression. At first I was like awwww she’s reaching out for help. But then came the pitch came. She even mentioned my kids possibly struggling with mental health and how she has something that could help and we could make a bunch of money. She said she knows I have a huge following and I could take advantage of that. The whole thing was so messed up.
I have a theory that KS took a hit during this panini and came up with this idea to make their money back. An MLM structure adds the cushion of a guaranteed customer base from people who sign up and "wOrk tHe bUsInEsS".
The combination of closed retail stores and HIGH shipping prices has increased the appeal of this business model because you are essentially just warehousing a bunch of junk to one person and going ‘good, now just email me the profits’ but once things get back to normal they will regret it. MLMs are one of the most complicated business models with LOTS of red tape so only those with nothing to lose try it. KS has a lot to lose. This was a stupid move.
As someone who was on the ground level of “new & exciting” way to “partner” with my (former) favorite online boutique, the thing I was most upset/frustrated about was how little money I made. I was in another MLM previously, knowing full well that I would never reach the income that friends did. I worked my ass off, got my products covered, & that was enough for me. I had absolutely ZERO intentions of EVER joining any (& another) MLM, but didn’t see the harm in it. I only jumped on the “ground floor” with the boutique because I was consistently getting asked where I had purchased my clothes & saw the possibilities since I was there from the get go. Not only was I nowhere near as successful as I had been with my previous “business”, despite “getting in early”, I quickly saw the boutique change courses & became embarrassed to be “affiliated” with them. I thought about leaving for 10 solid months, even going as far as removing my payment information from the back office so that my monthly website fees could not be deducted only to continue getting sucked back in. I finally saw the light (thanks to Hannah, as well as a few other UA-camrs), planned my exit according to shopping trends, & was prepared. Less than a week later, events took place that I could no longer stomach & I pulled the trigger. There was absolutely no way that I could stomach the thought of being connected to them in any way. Apologies for the novel…I guess I should’ve emailed this in as a Horror Story 🤦🏼♀️, but all this to say, I am already so saddened at the thought of so many women thinking they are striking GOLD by “getting in on the ground floor”.
@@carinelsonfreeland Thank you for setting things straight with the truth about getting in early. I guess Hannah is so so right about there truly being no way to win in an MLM
The mental health MLM really got me mad, and I'm used to these MLM shenanigans. It's just... The people creating these """businesses""" are just vultures. Disgusting.
I had a hun threaten to leave me a negative review on my bakery page (a legit small business) because I called her out in the comments on the KS Facebook page. So gross.
@@DocBree13 I know… infuriating. I blocked her and anyone else I could tell was part of her page (she had like 3 followers only). Haven’t seen one come through but I hope I’m able to get it deleted if it happens. I can easily prove she said it (screenshots) and can show she has never made a purchase from me.
It cracks me up that a lot of the ads I see when I watch your videos are MLM-related. Stuff about becoming a better "network marketer" or getting good leads.
What's really concerning about the 'mental wellness' mlm is if their 'happy juice' is actually used to supplement medication it could lead to some very dangerous if not life threatening interactions.
The Amare (sp?) coaching call was like playing MLM Bingo. I'm halfway through it and I don’t think they've said one original thing. I could even finish some sentences for them. If I win Bingo do I get to the Double Diamond Regional Princess rank?
im sorry but my dad is a finance professor and there is absolutely no way anybody with his background and education would join anything with this structure.
My husband & I taught Dave Ramsey’s Financial Peace University for 5 years. While we didn’t agree with everything he taught we agreed with the basics: have a budget, get out of debt, invest. Dave would absolutely not recommend anyone join an MLM because he is smart enough to see them for what they are, a scam. He does tell people to find ways to earn more to pay off debt but his suggestions are: deliver pizza, sell things you no longer use, babysit, talk to your boss about a raise. He would NEVER recommend joining an MLM much less putting it on a CC. Also, as someone who has struggled with depression in the past this company disgusts me. Sadly, one day soon we are going to hear about someone killing themselves because they stopped taking there meds & took this snake oil instead. I pray that doesn’t happen but I’m afraid it’s inevitable.
"I'm a researcher" = not an actual scientific researcher of any kind, ever. The most basic, peer-reviewed legit scientific research has concluded that for most people most of the time, supplements and vitamins are a waste of time and money. It makes for very expensive urine.
Me asking my actual financial advisor who gets paid to manage my IRA's what he thinks about network marketing. His response "stay far far away, you want security for your future, that's why you have me and we have our plan in place"
I wouldn’t throw away your Kendra Scott! Perhaps regift if you really can’t stand wearing it but I don’t think having bought the jewelry before they opened this mlm arm is at all unethical or anything to feel bad about
The copying on Monat's part didn't surprise me, not after Scentsy imitated a small business that is run by a member of the LGBT community's promo, during pride month no less.
Yeah, that buzzword thing you talked about as a cult tactic mentioned in the BITE model? When I start realizing that someone's politics becomes more about "bumper sticker chants" rather than policy, I'm looking elsewhere.
That "pour into me" phrase is also heavily used in church, so yeah, reacultural, since cults very their basic tactics from religion and turn up the volume.
Last summer I was fantasizing and hoping that I would get into a wreck and not survive. I was at the lowest of lows. Medication and therapy literally saved me! No MLM could give me my life back. No MLM could get my mental health back to even close to okay. These huns will stop at nothing🤦🏻♀️
So glad you found help!! 💜💜 it is important to take care of yourself and find something that works for you. Antidepressants were also life changing for me. It’s not for everyone, but I hope you’re doing better 💜
LOL Hannah- you must be TERRIBLE at poker- your face shows everything you feel! :) These women went through literally every talking point I've EVER heard. This was almost like a parody.
I have been binging your anti MLM videos. I have been approached by a few MLMs over the years and honestly didn't know that is what they are called. I just knew that any business that would require you to recruit other people to make money was a NO for me. Thank you for all you do. P.S. When your kitties are talking in the background of your video, my kitties are looking for them. It's cute to watch my cats trying to figure out where they are.
I think by now we DO know what getting plugged into systems means. It means listening to motivational zoom calls every day and copying other huns' messages and videos.
If my partner/ spouse was on a zoom call telling a stranger that they have to work hard to make up for the income I don’t bring in as a teacher (I am a teacher and it is a difficult job!) I’d be so angry. Especially if my spouse/ partner was “making up” that income by manipulating people or by using our money to buy ranks and products we don’t need. I couldn’t divorce from this person because I’d have to pay alimony!
I was super disappointed that Kendra Scott announced an MLM arm under their umbrella. I love Kendra Scott jewelry and own several pieces (it’s one of the few “costume” jewelry brands that doesn’t make me break out), so I’m torn on whether to buy more pieces.
Honestly it doesn't surprise me! He is a scumbag of a person and literally fires people for things they do in their personal lives that has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the employees jobs. I hated how the fundie world worshipped him when I went to those churches. It makes perfect sense thart he would get involved with an mlm type of structure.
I actually believe a financial advisor as an MLM rep is one of the most dangerous career combinations. Imagine how many clients from their financial background they can sucker into her mlm downline in hopes of it being a good business venture
That financial expert thinks average yearly inflation is 5.4%. Inflation in the US, on average, was 3.25% over the last 100+ years. She clearly has no actual financial planning knowledge. I guess you can sell financial planning without knowing any financial planning.
My sister worked in the KS warehouse in Texas and she refused to shut down for covid when ppl were scared, but claimed she cared about her employees. I’m not a fan! And she says the jewelry is worth Pennies lol
Love your content! I especially like that you don't mock or put down anyone. I've been been binge listening to your videos while remodeling my kitchen and it's been a real pleasure. I find the whole concept of MLMs (and the fact they're actually LEGAL) fascinating and deeply disturbing. Keep up the great work! ❤️
This content is so very needed and appreciated. I share with my friends and this blows their minds as much as it does mine with analysis and amazing points
I hate how mlm's and "traditional capitalism" touts this idea of multiple streams of income and being a millionaire! That is not everyone's goal! Some people just want to have all bills paid, a little in savings for a rainy day and a little extra just to have. For people like me, that would be $40-$50 k a year. Not millions! And for most people in America, $40,000 is not a livable wage but would be a huge improvement from $25-$35 k a year.
Just found your channel about a week ago and been watching some of these Horror Stories and Fails, and would you believe it, one of my friends I suspected of being in an MLM is in this video! While I don't want to say I feel better for getting it confirmed since I already pretty much knew, it just makes it more sad for me knowing there isn't anything I could really do to get her out (the one she is in the video for is not her first MLM). BTW, Dave Ramsey is also big in the catholic/christian community (it was touted at the church I grew up in) so I'm not surprised that it is so common in MLM hun groups. Thank you for all you do, I've learned a lot already in the week since I've found you!
I'm so confused about how the one woman is a financial coach? Does she have any qualifications? Since she said she was a teacher, it feels like just something she claims to be.
I would love to see you do a "guess the MLM" style video where you play random clips with the name censored and we can try to guess what MLM they're from
No joke, my husband suggested this kind of video to me before and I wrote it down because I thought it was a great idea!
I love this. Respectfully Sarcastic does this with MLM posts and it’s a real hoot
Yesss that’d be so fun haha
@@Pippa87 I was going to say the same thing. I love her channel as well.
Drop it on a Friday/Saturday so it can be a drinking game.
The "Recruit 5 People Who Recruit 5 People" model is why extraterrestrial life is not making itself known to us.
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Probably wouldn't want to be recruited 😂
😂😂😂 For real!
Hahahahhahhahha this is hilarious 🤍
“One hairstylist referenced one Monat product and all of a sudden the Kardashians now use Monat, this is Ludacris!”
Monet huns: “ Ludacris uses Monat!”
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underrated comment lol
This comment is beyond HILARIOUS!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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"Pouring into you" and "getting plugged in" come out of the Protestant Evangelical churches many of these MLM huns attend. Examples: "Get plugged in to our weekly home groups" and "Pastor Tay poured into us a great teaching yesterday."
Then I wasn't imagining both of these women using the "fundie baby voice."
Then there's me with my dirty mind💀💀💀
If a company has physical stores and online shopping, there’s literally no reason for them to start a “direct selling” portion if they’re not trying to cash in on an MLM scam…
I was in a LLR group when they released the new sweatshirts called “Amber”. The consultant decided to list all the sweatshirts with the caption “Amber Alert 🚨”. I commented how that seemed insensitive and promptly got kicked out of the group lol
Trying to make money using a ***public awareness kidnapping phrase***…I’m flabbergasted. What a sad little world she lives in.
That is incredible 😂
Reprehensible…
I’m bipolar and when companies claim that they’ve “helped” people stop taking their meds…. With no mention of talking to your doctor first or the risks involved…like I can’t… I really can’t. It’s so dangerous. Like life threatening in some cases. WHY? So you can make a Commission and then tell everyone that you now have financial freedom? Don’t you think if a vitamin would solve a mental health diagnosis everyone and their mother would be taking it?
I'm bipolar as well (type one) and if I went off my meds for a week I'd probably end up yelling at strangers on the sidewalk.
I love how Monat isn’t even verified on Instagram 😂 and their reps say they’re the number one hair care company in the world.
I have been WAITING for Beyonce'a stylist to get called out. We went to hair school together. And when she started doing Beyoncé's hair, I was soooo excited for her. Someone from our town making it bigggg!
BUT, it's been disappointing to see her move to Monat.
Soooo strange she’d feel the need to join an MLM considering she’d already reached success??? But I could see having a platform already helping create a down line 🥴
@@meghansullivan6812 yeppp!! Just another money grab for her
@@meghansullivan6812 Nailed it. She can cash in on it HARD, including taking advantage of Beyonce's name recognition.
@@meghansullivan6812 100%. I can almost guarantee that she’s not using any of those products on herself. But it’s just to gain more money and finances because of her platform
If you like the jewelry keep it! You already spent the money BEFORE they changed their business structure. I see no harm in keeping it.
Agree with this! You don’t have to toss it if you like it. You bought it before you knew so wearing it now isn’t supporting the business model or anything
When she said "Our compensation plan is so simple! Recruit 5 people, make 500 dollars" I almost spit out my food. ZERO awareness!!
Lol right
Or completely aware and playing dumb.
I’m an attorney and all I can think listening to the “mental wellness company” is wait until a child is harmed or causes harm because they were suffering from a mental illness and some “boss babe” told their parent to give them some supplement instead of seeking medical help. The lawsuits that will come…
It can and has happened with physical illnesses as well. watch some of hannah's horror stories vids and hear for yourself... as someone with innumerable chronic illnesses, I am so glad my mom keeps her essential oils to herself
happens all the time, the law doesn't actually help unfortunately.
I'm not a lawyer, but isn't it illegal to make these sorts of claims that X product will heal Y illness if you take it? Isn't that considered practicing medicine without a license?
@@EC_123-h8i yes, but it would be in violation of the FD&C act I believe. Essentially, if they make such claims, the product falls under the category of a medication and without going through the usual hoops you have to for FDA approval, then they would get in trouble if reported to the FTC and FDA.
I'm not sure about the practicing being a doctor without a license charge, could be possible but it might be a bit of a stretch so long as they aren't diagnosing people.
Hi Hannah! I wanted to leave a comment about the “pouring into” and “plugged into” phrases. These aren’t unique to MLMs. These sayings, and many more, are very frequently used in Christian circles and at larger mega churches. I am a Christian myself, but I cringe at these sayings. “Pouring into” means investing in or mentoring. So someone with an intentional mother or father might say they “really poured into me”. “Plugged in” just means they’re getting involved and invested. Just wanted to add that!
P.S. not all Christians say these cringey phrases or buy into MLMs. I am about to graduate with my BA in Biblical Studies and I can see the faith manipulation and twisting of Christianity in these “companies”.
Another one I’ve heard both in church circles and mlms is “love on” 🤮
Mega churches seem like the closest thing to devil worship on the planet, but I'm not religious so who am I to say idolatry and public prayer are sinful?
What’s so hilarious about huns holding up Dave Ramsey as an “idol” is that he specifically says that the way to make money in MLMs is to get good at recruiting people who are good at recruiting, not by selling the products. He also says it’s a big red flag if the company isn’t upfront about being and MLM. 🤣
Yes, that's soooo funny!
Yes! I just looked up a clip of him discussing this very thing. He said on that video from September 2023 and I quote “ If you tell me, you’re going into an MLM as a part-time job to make extra money I will tell you you’re a fool.” he said 73% of people who go into an MLM lose money. And he said that was a high statistic. This woman irritates me saying she’s coming from Dave Ramsey. This does not sound like what Dave Ramsey would say. I listen to him a lot. In fact, my husband and I are on the baby steps to pay off our house in the next year. And we’ve only owned the house for three.
@@Darc815UA-cam suggested some Dave Ramsey videos to me before I came across anti MLM and that's quite recently. I'm currently binging Hannah's playlist. It is so surprising to me why would huns like him. I haven't seen many of his videos, but he always says do not add to your debt (like opening a new credit card to pay for starter pack is probably not something he'd recommend). "Your car payment is how much?! Sell your fancy car and buy something for $1000 that will take you from A to B" not "Get a fancy car that you can't easily pay off and will probably get you into more debt for nice IG picks"
What am I missing here?
I was about to comment this same thing two years later lol
Their reps "make" $1,000/mo... but how much did they SPEND on their mlm products?
plus, cost of health insurance, bills, food, etc etc. $1000 alone a month is nothing these days. :(
Even if they spent zero on products, $1,000 a month isn't even minimum wage! It sounds like a lot in passing, but that's $12,000 a year. Even now you can make 4 times that much working 9-5 at McDonalds! When I first started working I was making double that with health and dental AND discounted rent (worked as a leasing agent) and was considered poor in the city I lived in!
This is so disappointing. I’ve personally experienced Kendra Scott’s philanthropic efforts. She gifted matching jewelry to moms and daughters in the cardiac ICU for Valentine’s Day in 2021 when my daughter had heart surgery. I’ve always had a soft spot for the company since then, but this is so disappointing!
It is very disappointing. Especially because it then makes you wonder if it was even done with good intentions, or as a way to use someone’s hard situation to form an emotional bond with a product, their product namely. I experienced something like this when I did a yoga teacher training. My emotions were high as were other students, and I think that can sometimes be used by unethical people to garner something from it, loyalty etc. so sorry, and wishing your family so much health and wellness. Remember good people are out there just as much as these garbage ones.
Don't let their present behaviour change your good memory! It was still a very sweet thing to do at the time, they obviously got new management or something like that so I definitely wouldn't support them now but they clearly did a nice thing for you when you needed it most, keep this as a precious memory between your daughter and you ❤️
There was a caring person behind the kindness you felt. Don't forget what was a positive and make it negative. I think you could wear what you were gifted without any shame! If someone asks about your jewelry, talk about the experience not the name brand.
I work in Child Welfare - and they have gifted sooo much to our local agency - not in jewelry but actual dollars to be used to help the caseworkers get their jobs done better. I'm heartbroken that it's true. I'd heard rumors but wasn't sure if it actually happened. Thanks to Hannah for wearing one in another video I came looking to confirm (so I actually think it's a good thing that she was wearing it - it alerted me to check it out).
Love how she uses the word "crazy" in a derogatory way while peddling her "mental wellness" pyramid scheme... K 🙄
What I found the most amazing is that they don't even try to make look like they are teaching people how to sell their products, they are teaching people how to sell the business
"Pouring into people" is something I heard a lot when I used to be Christian, so I think it might come from there. I've found religious people tend to say it when they want to support someone, pray for them, try to evangelize them, etc.
Not a lot of good things as being raised Catholic but one plus is I never heard that so gonna give this one to the Protestants.
I second this!
@@kateemma22 you’re absolutely right - it’s an evangelical Protestant thing
None of them know what the real meaning is of "residual income." Drives me crazy! Residual income is income someone continues to receive after the completion of the income-producing work. The boss babes are still DOING WORK for their MLM 'bizness' so it's not residual....it's just income! Grrrrr
Yes! I was looking for this comment. The “expert” saying residual income multiple times made my skin crawl. I needed to confirm someone else in the world was hearing that and reacting to it as well.
Hi Hanna, just want to add that being a Ramsey Financial Coach doesn’t mean you are a Financial Expert. Its an online course where you pay $3500+++ in 45 days. Its basically also sort of an MLM. Dave Ramsey’s former co host is also connected to Primerica and he is chummy with Amway. I used to be a fan but no respectable financial guru can ignore the financial harms of MLM.
Thank you for that clarification! I’m not surprised that there’s an MLM connection. I used the term “expert” because the first woman used the term “expert” to describe the second woman, but that’s for clarifying that it’s not the same thing as a coach ☺️
@@HannahAlonzo If you only knew how many MLM huns here pretend to be “Financial Experts”, thanks for this video, it inspired me to do a video on the Dave Ramsey of the Philippines (Chinkee Tan) he literally said on one of his training videos, MLM is 80% inviting and 20% selling, that we all know that definition is 100% a pyramid scheme.
Also he is being sued for racial discrimination and fired a pregnant woman for premarital sex and violating their moral code . It’s problematic at least .
@@heatherforster5962 I will say he also fired the man involved. Because they both signed forms saying they will follow the teachings of Jesus. And since they can't hide a pregnany. Both involved were fired.
@@patriciawills32 as someone who works in HR, asking people to sign contracts that dictate things like that outside of their work is problematic at best. You can't dictate what people do on their personal time away from their job. He is just a terrible person!
Yeah, if endra Scott wasn't adding/changing to an MLM model, instead of saying, "...with no emphasis on recruitment or building teams...." they'd say, "...with no recruitment or team building."
Also, in one of the clips at the end, one of the two women said the magic words, "attraction marketing." When they say "attraction marketing," I think that it's more likely going to be "affinity fraud."
This company kills me. I suffer from anxiety and depression and this is truly dangerous. They’re begging for a lawsuit because someone did something awful because they went off their meds for this bs.
Please don’t throw away your jewelry if you love it!! (Not wearing it in anti-mlm videos is one thing, but don’t throw it away!!) Maybe if someone asks you about it you can say it’s just a really good knock-off??? 🤷🏻♀️ Seriously though, I love your videos and am binging them!! Thank you for all your hard work! 🙏🏻
I’m feeling this way too. My husband has bought me a KS piece for every holiday and birthday since we’ve been together. I hate that they’ve gone this way but my jewelry is special to me because they were gifts.
Agreed! Don't throw your jewelry away, keep enjoying the things you love. Your (or your loved one's) money has already been spent. Future purchases can go elsewhere but please don't feel bad about pieces already in your collection.
Yes! Just sell it if you don’t want it, so need to throw away perfectly good Jewerly.
Watching you roll your eyes during this whole video is giving me life!!!!!
I’m surprised my eyes haven’t rolled out of my head at this point 🤣
@@HannahAlonzo I felt that! Lol!
I never used Amere but I was convinced not to take meds for my anxiety/depression but to use EO's. I am thankfully no longer in that cultlike mentality and have started my medication again.
I’m glad you got away from that and are back on your medication! What are EO’s?
@@DocBree13 Essential Oils
The mention of people going off their meds for Clip 4 is so infuriating and predatory! As someone on anti-depressants and who will be on them for life, I remember a time before I came to terms with being on meds long term. It was such a struggle and [TRIGGER WARNING] I did end up hospitalized when I tried to stop taking them by myself.
I'm much better now and glad for my meds and take them regularly - but I know there would have been a point that a non-medication option would have been super enticing to me. And I know so many have been tempted by that idea too even if it's not what would be best for them. Sometimes meds aren't right for someone but it's so dangerous for random MLM hun to suggest that for others ...
I too am on an anti-depressant and I thank GOD for it. I have joked that I would be the spokesperson for the one that I am on because it works SO well and greatly improves the quality of my life. I hate how so many people act like it’s shameful to take them
I have a Mood Disorder (Type II Bipolar) and have no shame about my diagnosis or the meds I take. I'm big on destigmatizing mental illness. 🙂
This is so true and so important! I’m sorry you’ve struggled with mental health issues, and I can really relate. I’m very glad you’re doing better and found something that helps you significantly. What these people are doing is SO dangerous, even potentially life-threatening in some cases, and I wonder if they are breaking the law by practicing medicine without a license.
@@krexoriginal ❤️
@@DocBree13 Thank you!🤗
i got a kendra scott as a gift from my mom so its very special to me! just as long as no one in the future goes “hey hun! i noticed you wearing kendra scott..” 😂 no thank you ma’am or sir!
The "Beyonce uses Monat" falsehood reminds me of the "LipSense is the official lip color of Broadway" fiasco.
As someone who is on an anti-depressant I will say that I do approach my mental wellbeing holistically because I have learned so much more about my mind, body, and triggers. Taking a supplement and assuming it will cure all my woes doesn’t seem very “holistic” in my view. I fell into the wellness world (has its own issues without mlms…) and what was most damaging to me was constantly being pulled in different directions looking for all the answers from others. I feel bad for all the huns in this mlm who are struggling with their mental wellness.
Also, I just started taking my daily multi-vitamins again. They make me feel much better, but I didn’t have to join a biz opportunity or ditch my meds.
Exactly. It’s so strange because my doctor who treats my anxiety/depression recommends multi-vitamins or whatever you’re low on so they’re not wrong to think vitamins help but 1. To act like doctors only want you on hard drugs is false, 2. Random collections of vitamins chosen at random is not more successful than medical treatment, 3. You can buy vitamins for cheap at the grocery store!
nobody struggles with mental "wellness", im mentally UNwell that's the problem lmao. "mental illness" isn't a bad phrase
The Wellness Company’s financial “expert” literally called everyone CRAZY for not signing up…after just talking about her concerns for mental health…
Seriously!! Came here to say this too.
Yup, she's as much of an expert as a beachbody coach is a coach.
The “expert” also doesn’t understand the term “residual income” yet uses it to explain the MLM multiple times… time to run, run away very fast! LOL
Thanks, Hannah for always standing up for people on antidepressants or anti anxiety medicine. 💖
We'll never help women until we get rid of the idea that a regular job is a bad thing. I used to buy into that myth (I'm in my 50s, so staying home was more common when I married).
I work that full time job now, 7-5, and make waaaay more money. We've earned security, flex time, vacations, and I'm paying off our new house in two years instead of 30. JOBS are awesome sometimes!
"$140 happy juice is not the solution"!
🤣🤣🤣
This financial one is especially puzzling. Investment advisors already, 'set their own schedule' and have, 'unlimited earning potential.' They don't need an MLM for that.
“The holy trinity of MLM boss babe wealth mindset” I almost spat my coffee out LOL
😂 yes that was perfection
with amere, the fact they just call it “the company” just makes it sound like a cult
lady claims she’s a researcher. why not conduct a double blind control trial with the product and a placebo. then have a third party evaluate your results
Do actual research? Nah. Vague claims are just so much more fun!
👍🏻💯 !
Re the language of MLMs - I'm currently reading "Cultish: The Language of Fanaticism," by Amanda Montell. It's so good and explains the usage, effects, and power of cultish language and explores why some people are more susceptible to it than others.
Combatting Cult Mindset by Steven Hassan is LIFE CHANGING!
A financial coach who recommends MLM? DON’T TAKE FINANCIAL ADVICE FROM THIS WOMAN!
LMAO! They’re so brainwashed. “Their company” couldn’t care less. You’re not a partner you’re a customer, point blank period.
At the 30 minute mark, where she explicitly lays out the recruit 5 - pyramid scheme : holy moly! That was so dumb.
I notice this all the time with huns that are my friends. I live in Utah, so I know more than a few! They speak all the time about their success, but rarely talk about what the business is. It's just 'success'. You can't make money fron success. Success is the result, not the method.
Dave Ramsey’s take on MLM is refreshingly honest. I’d search it on UA-cam. He basically says that success in MLM requires becoming a master recruiter, motivator, and retainer of a sales team. He stops short of saying the model is fraudulent
I will look into it!
@UCvtyMwyocVeEE2-pP-tQMRw Didn’t know that about him. My beef is his dogmatism about debt (although I took his advice and currently have none!) Some debt is good in the right circumstances, just not the type he counsels his listeners about
Dave Ramsey pretty much supports mlms. He's Said on calls that he knows.people that have "suceeded" and that it can be good business. What he forgets to mention Is that he's friends with people that started these mlm companies and they are rich by creating a pyramid scheme
Dave Ramsey is a scammer and *does* think MLMs can work for some people if they “do the work”. Why are you defending him?
@@anon8068 Because he is very clear that "the work" is recruiting and training people in a high-turnover environment. Which is pretty accurate.
Someone needs to create a "MLM Pitch" Bingo Card or Checklist and keep track of how many points they hit. The health claim at 17:50 shocked me too.
Jessica Hickson has a video on this!
ah yes dave ramsey. the guy who fires people for being pregnant.
Fundie Friday on UA-cam did a deep dive on him .
Really?! 👀
MLMs claiming people use their products that don't is so prevalent that the anti MLM weightloss support group I am in on Facebook asks that anyone who posts before and after pictures in the group puts the words No MLM on their photos to stop the huns that have snuck into the group from stealing the photos to promote their products. Unfortunately this came along after several photos were taken from the group.
A thief being put on Trial is claiming:
I'm not a thief, I am not a thief. I am just redistributing your wealth to me without your consent.
Wait. I'm confused. I always thought "doing good for your community" meant a business sponsoring a kid's sports team or donating money to a park or the business adopting a section of road to pick up litter - - - it really just means opening a business? That's it???
Also-just thought of this: Can Monat's Compliance Division fine a Monat rep for making a wild unauthorized claim? Seems like if a MLM company wants to stop this kind of thing, all they would have to do is levy a monetary fine and the huns would quickly stop.
Clip 5: I always ask people for their Gross Amount after expenses (their own purchases, tax, etc) or show me your P+L (profit and loss statement). Most don't have a clue... and they call themselves "business people". The thing is there is a big tax free income threshold here in Australia so someone earning only $1000 would fall into that threshold and be 'tax free'. Yet still, after her own expenses... i'm glad it was her wake up call. I wish it would other people.
As I watched this video, I stumbled upon a reels on Instagram where a Monat rep called herself a "shampoo dealer" and I instantly knew she was a Monat rep, still I checked her profile to make sure. Shampoo dealer is such a weird term to describe yourself 🥴
I believe they have merch that says "shampoo dealer." Arbonne has "fizz dealer" merch too. 😂
@@darksidelaegrinna Jesus, that's so bizarre, but so is the whole mlm culture, so I shouldn't be susprised 😂
22:37 So she mentions people having to get a credit card for emergencies then ending up in debt unable to pay it off and how terrible that is...and yet she probably would pressure someone to put their MLM order on a credit card saying it's "an investment" snd they'll "pay it off with the first order they sell!"
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In my city you can’t rent a studio for 1k a month, let alone cover groceries and other essentials and raise kids 😬
With the amount of “helping people” these MLM huns “do” the world is really in a “better place”.
Every time I am watching them it feels like I am watching a parody.
Lol - they’re like bad SNL sketches 😆
"Changing communities" 😂
“Social retail” is another term. You need to look up what Modere is doing now with there social retail 2.0. They actually said that Amazon is going to be begging them for advice because it is so revolutionary. It’s ridiculous.
If I had a hair stylist/hair dresser that started touting Monat I'd get up and walk out. Middle of a cut? Oh well, someone else can fix it. Shampoo in my hair? No worries, it's fine. (Unless she's using Monat.) Leave my final payment at the door and never be back.
No responsible hair stylist would use that on themselves knowing the lawsuits.
The 'I wonder what MLM she's in' was so shady....I love it ❤️❤️
I had a lady reach out to me about Amare. She didn’t use the name but she sent me like a 3 min voice message. Basically saying how much she loves me and my family for a min. 🤨 ive never met her. She just follows me. Then she brought up struggling with depression. At first I was like awwww she’s reaching out for help. But then came the pitch came. She even mentioned my kids possibly struggling with mental health and how she has something that could help and we could make a bunch of money. She said she knows I have a huge following and I could take advantage of that. The whole thing was so messed up.
I have a theory that KS took a hit during this panini and came up with this idea to make their money back. An MLM structure adds the cushion of a guaranteed customer base from people who sign up and "wOrk tHe bUsInEsS".
The combination of closed retail stores and HIGH shipping prices has increased the appeal of this business model because you are essentially just warehousing a bunch of junk to one person and going ‘good, now just email me the profits’ but once things get back to normal they will regret it. MLMs are one of the most complicated business models with LOTS of red tape so only those with nothing to lose try it. KS has a lot to lose. This was a stupid move.
Gross about Kendra Scott. Why couldn't they leave well enough alone. At least those getting in now have a chance to get to the top.
As someone who was on the ground level of “new & exciting” way to “partner” with my (former) favorite online boutique, the thing I was most upset/frustrated about was how little money I made. I was in another MLM previously, knowing full well that I would never reach the income that friends did. I worked my ass off, got my products covered, & that was enough for me. I had absolutely ZERO intentions of EVER joining any (& another) MLM, but didn’t see the harm in it. I only jumped on the “ground floor” with the boutique because I was consistently getting asked where I had purchased my clothes & saw the possibilities since I was there from the get go. Not only was I nowhere near as successful as I had been with my previous “business”, despite “getting in early”, I quickly saw the boutique change courses & became embarrassed to be “affiliated” with them. I thought about leaving for 10 solid months, even going as far as removing my payment information from the back office so that my monthly website fees could not be deducted only to continue getting sucked back in. I finally saw the light (thanks to Hannah, as well as a few other UA-camrs), planned my exit according to shopping trends, & was prepared. Less than a week later, events took place that I could no longer stomach & I pulled the trigger. There was absolutely no way that I could stomach the thought of being connected to them in any way.
Apologies for the novel…I guess I should’ve emailed this in as a Horror Story 🤦🏼♀️, but all this to say, I am already so saddened at the thought of so many women thinking they are striking GOLD by “getting in on the ground floor”.
@@carinelsonfreeland Thank you for setting things straight with the truth about getting in early. I guess Hannah is so so right about there truly being no way to win in an MLM
The mental health MLM really got me mad, and I'm used to these MLM shenanigans. It's just... The people creating these """businesses""" are just vultures. Disgusting.
I had a hun threaten to leave me a negative review on my bakery page (a legit small business) because I called her out in the comments on the KS Facebook page. So gross.
BUT THEY SUPPORT WOMEN AND SMALL BUSINESSES! lol they’re such clowns.
🤦🏽♀️ unbelievable! How unethical!
@@DocBree13 I know… infuriating. I blocked her and anyone else I could tell was part of her page (she had like 3 followers only). Haven’t seen one come through but I hope I’m able to get it deleted if it happens. I can easily prove she said it (screenshots) and can show she has never made a purchase from me.
So you can call her out but she can't respond? I hate MLMs but you're a hypocrite.
“If you think you don’t feel right there’s this medication you can be on,” said no doctor ever.
It cracks me up that a lot of the ads I see when I watch your videos are MLM-related. Stuff about becoming a better "network marketer" or getting good leads.
The irony of this lady from a “mental health company” repeatedly using the word crazy is just astounding.
What's really concerning about the 'mental wellness' mlm is if their 'happy juice' is actually used to supplement medication it could lead to some very dangerous if not life threatening interactions.
Whenever somebody says we don’t put an emphasis on that, that’s just verification that they DO do THAT.
The Amare (sp?) coaching call was like playing MLM Bingo. I'm halfway through it and I don’t think they've said one original thing. I could even finish some sentences for them. If I win Bingo do I get to the Double Diamond Regional Princess rank?
Purple Unicorn Suburban Ambassador Platinum.
😂
This is my favorite kind of news, love staying up to date without actually being in the MLM 😂
im sorry but my dad is a finance professor and there is absolutely no way anybody with his background and education would join anything with this structure.
They are promoting a “mental health” scheme while at the same time keep throwing the word “crazy” left and right…😂😂😂
You just reminded me to take my antidepressants, talk about the real mental wellness channel ♥️
29:19 "People are gonna pour into me and I'm going to plug into their systems" I can't 😭💀
My husband & I taught Dave Ramsey’s Financial Peace University for 5 years. While we didn’t agree with everything he taught we agreed with the basics: have a budget, get out of debt, invest. Dave would absolutely not recommend anyone join an MLM because he is smart enough to see them for what they are, a scam. He does tell people to find ways to earn more to pay off debt but his suggestions are: deliver pizza, sell things you no longer use, babysit, talk to your boss about a raise. He would NEVER recommend joining an MLM much less putting it on a CC. Also, as someone who has struggled with depression in the past this company disgusts me. Sadly, one day soon we are going to hear about someone killing themselves because they stopped taking there meds & took this snake oil instead. I pray that doesn’t happen but I’m afraid it’s inevitable.
"I'm a researcher" = not an actual scientific researcher of any kind, ever. The most basic, peer-reviewed legit scientific research has concluded that for most people most of the time, supplements and vitamins are a waste of time and money. It makes for very expensive urine.
I’ve heard that before too! The most expensive, pretty urine…but not anything else….
What’s so ironic about this is that this is literally the LEAST direct way to sell.
Me asking my actual financial advisor who gets paid to manage my IRA's what he thinks about network marketing. His response "stay far far away, you want security for your future, that's why you have me and we have our plan in place"
I wouldn’t throw away your Kendra Scott! Perhaps regift if you really can’t stand wearing it but I don’t think having bought the jewelry before they opened this mlm arm is at all unethical or anything to feel bad about
Yes! I get most of my KS on poshmark :D
they love Dave Ramsey because he supports the business structure of an MLM.
Why do the Huns put on these weird cutesy baby voices, it sounds odd and unnatural. They slip up every so often and the real voice comes through.
it's the baby fundie voice
The copying on Monat's part didn't surprise me, not after Scentsy imitated a small business that is run by a member of the LGBT community's promo, during pride month no less.
Paparazzi's "unique & exclusive" jewelry designs are also copied. There's no original thought. MLMs are just shameless cash grabs.
Oh wow! 😡
Can you tell me the name of that business? Would like to buy from them.
Yeah, that buzzword thing you talked about as a cult tactic mentioned in the BITE model? When I start realizing that someone's politics becomes more about "bumper sticker chants" rather than policy, I'm looking elsewhere.
That "pour into me" phrase is also heavily used in church, so yeah, reacultural, since cults very their basic tactics from religion and turn up the volume.
Last summer I was fantasizing and hoping that I would get into a wreck and not survive. I was at the lowest of lows. Medication and therapy literally saved me! No MLM could give me my life back. No MLM could get my mental health back to even close to okay. These huns will stop at nothing🤦🏻♀️
So glad you found help!! 💜💜 it is important to take care of yourself and find something that works for you. Antidepressants were also life changing for me. It’s not for everyone, but I hope you’re doing better 💜
Hey I’m happy to hear you’re doing better now!! And big agree, I’m very grateful for therapy and medication😩
Your story is NEVER over. I'm happy your plans changed and you are still here with us. You matter. You are valid.
LOL Hannah- you must be TERRIBLE at poker- your face shows everything you feel! :) These women went through literally every talking point I've EVER heard. This was almost like a parody.
I have been binging your anti MLM videos. I have been approached by a few MLMs over the years and honestly didn't know that is what they are called. I just knew that any business that would require you to recruit other people to make money was a NO for me. Thank you for all you do. P.S. When your kitties are talking in the background of your video, my kitties are looking for them. It's cute to watch my cats trying to figure out where they are.
I think by now we DO know what getting plugged into systems means. It means listening to motivational zoom calls every day and copying other huns' messages and videos.
If my partner/ spouse was on a zoom call telling a stranger that they have to work hard to make up for the income I don’t bring in as a teacher (I am a teacher and it is a difficult job!) I’d be so angry. Especially if my spouse/ partner was “making up” that income by manipulating people or by using our money to buy ranks and products we don’t need. I couldn’t divorce from this person because I’d have to pay alimony!
I was super disappointed that Kendra Scott announced an MLM arm under their umbrella. I love Kendra Scott jewelry and own several pieces (it’s one of the few “costume” jewelry brands that doesn’t make me break out), so I’m torn on whether to buy more pieces.
Ugh a friend of mine has just gotten "certified" by the ramsey coaching thing. I was worrying it was going to be an MLM thing.
Yikes! Dave Ramsay is more of a high-control religious cult than an MLM. He's a piece of human garbage.
Honestly it doesn't surprise me! He is a scumbag of a person and literally fires people for things they do in their personal lives that has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the employees jobs. I hated how the fundie world worshipped him when I went to those churches. It makes perfect sense thart he would get involved with an mlm type of structure.
The key part of the Beyonce thing is was the hairstylist not is the hair stylist maybe that's why she's not the hair stylist anymore. 🤷♀️
I actually believe a financial advisor as an MLM rep is one of the most dangerous career combinations. Imagine how many clients from their financial background they can sucker into her mlm downline in hopes of it being a good business venture
I would think it would be legally iffy, tbh. There are such concrete numbers that clearly indicate the high financial risk in an MLM scheme..
@@nikit0r Totally. It sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen
That financial expert thinks average yearly inflation is 5.4%. Inflation in the US, on average, was 3.25% over the last 100+ years. She clearly has no actual financial planning knowledge. I guess you can sell financial planning without knowing any financial planning.
You are absolutely right. This is not women supporting women. This is women definitely losing friends. 🤔
My sister worked in the KS warehouse in Texas and she refused to shut down for covid when ppl were scared, but claimed she cared about her employees. I’m not a fan! And she says the jewelry is worth Pennies lol
Love your content! I especially like that you don't mock or put down anyone. I've been been binge listening to your videos while remodeling my kitchen and it's been a real pleasure. I find the whole concept of MLMs (and the fact they're actually LEGAL) fascinating and deeply disturbing. Keep up the great work! ❤️
This content is so very needed and appreciated. I share with my friends and this blows their minds as much as it does mine with analysis and amazing points
I hate how mlm's and "traditional capitalism" touts this idea of multiple streams of income and being a millionaire! That is not everyone's goal! Some people just want to have all bills paid, a little in savings for a rainy day and a little extra just to have. For people like me, that would be $40-$50 k a year. Not millions! And for most people in America, $40,000 is not a livable wage but would be a huge improvement from $25-$35 k a year.
I love watching your reaction to their constant silly words like "plug right in!!!" 😂 they really exemplify "talking a lot, yet saying very little"
Oof thank you i needed to see this video uploaded! Just had the sort of day that’s got me sitting down to do my cv, but an mlm will NEVER feature!
Just found your channel about a week ago and been watching some of these Horror Stories and Fails, and would you believe it, one of my friends I suspected of being in an MLM is in this video! While I don't want to say I feel better for getting it confirmed since I already pretty much knew, it just makes it more sad for me knowing there isn't anything I could really do to get her out (the one she is in the video for is not her first MLM).
BTW, Dave Ramsey is also big in the catholic/christian community (it was touted at the church I grew up in) so I'm not surprised that it is so common in MLM hun groups.
Thank you for all you do, I've learned a lot already in the week since I've found you!
I'm so confused about how the one woman is a financial coach? Does she have any qualifications? Since she said she was a teacher, it feels like just something she claims to be.