MLM HORROR STORIES #8 | My company shut down and I lost $10,000, Norwex preying on new moms
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Maybe I should do a Spanish or bilingual anti-MLM channel 🤔.
Yes!!
Do it!
I have been temped too!
I support it!!
DO IT!!!!!
Hot take: MLMs are more prevalent in America because the US lacks many of the basic social safety nets that every other developed nation has. See affordable and accessible healthcare, free or low cost college tuition, reasonable sick and maternity/paternity leave, a healthier work/life balance IN GENERAL. In Germany, companies are legally required to give 4 weeks (20 days) paid vacation for all full time employees. Americans are excited to get 10 days PTO, and you often won't get that until you have worked at a company for at least a year. Too many Americans are living paycheck to paycheck, and when you're desperate you're easier to take advantage of.
I’ve been thinking for a while about starting to make some anti-mlm content in Polish and this is the last push i needed! (Not a sign from God though, i’m saving the expression for when the huns start calling).
Also, i definitely agree with my German neighbor, mlms are much less prevalent in Europe than in US, I personally don’t know anyone involved nor was i ever contacted by a polish speaking rep (i used to have a bilingual ig, so i’ve gotten some english pitches, tho). On the flip side, that means no one knows how bad these companies are NOR THAT THEY ARE MLMS. Like, Avon has a retail side and it’s a company that is often spoken about in beauty content. Personally, when i’ve gotten into antimlm like 3 years ago (my introduction to the genre was iiluminaughtii), i discovered i had an avon, a mary kay and an oriflame product in my house. Still no idea how my parents got most of them.
Yes exactly! I found out two years ago that fitline was an mlm company! They sell supplements but because of the troubles a sporting association in Finland has had monetarily, they accepted fitline as a sponsor and many people thought it was legit. Until like two years ago when a finnish reality tv star started talking about them and their outrageous huns.
but because mlms are not as common in finland, I never even considered that it could’ve been so horrible
iiluminaughtii is bringing in everyone who doesn't have as much personal mlm experience so we wouldn't seek it out, but her other content bring us in and grabs us
@Anna go for it 👍
Yeah! We (Czech Republic) have Avon and Oriflame sold regularly in the shops as common products, and door-to-door selling is more or less illegal (and let's be honest, online selling is still not a good option if you want to reach the older people here), so people here don't know they're MLMs or what these even are. Avon has recently started to promote the business side here on youtube, but it's not really a thing that has spread at all, and the ads dissapeared eventually.
A Mary Kay Lady wanted to talk me into it when I was really young, like 18 or 19 years old. :D She was a professional hairdresser and beautician with her own salon. I live in Germany btw.
At least Tupperware offers a quality product. I still use a 40 year old colander that belonged to my mother. I use it every day and many many other colanders have disintegrated. It's sturdy and indestructible.
The colanders! I've picked up the green bigger one and the yellow smaller one at thrift stores, and who knows how old they are? I expect to be buried with them someday ;-)
"It's not a pyramid scheme if you leave early enough"' sounds suspiciously like "I understand that the people at the bottom loose time and money but I don't care, because I think I've gotten in early enough to be a the top of the pyramid and know I should nope out before the pyramid collapse."
My wife and I discovered the world of anti-MLM after she bought her wedding dress at David's Bridal and they gave her info to a Mary Kay hun. Channels like this that knock the scammers down a peg or two bring us endless joy!
No way! That’s insane, I can’t believe David’s Bridal did that! Mary Kay reps are relentless when it comes to trying to sell products…
People have posted online that M.K. reps can pay them for leads, but we have not seen anything official to confirm that. So disgusting. People need to be aware of that. Ladies are looking for the perfect dress for their wedding, only to be told by their dress saleswoman that they have received a "free pampering session to get you ready for your special day!". Then a rep calls to schedule it, and you find out it's not exactly a "pampering session" so much as someone giving you makeup samples to put on yourself because they are not allowed to apply products on you. So you will be "pampered" by allowing you to put makeup on yourself and get hammered with a high pressure pitch. Yuck! My wife doesn't do makeup, so she basically told them to get lost 🤣
David’s Bridal did that to me, too! I ignored it because I wasn’t interested, but now that I’m anti-MLM, I can’t stand the fact that DB does that 😬
Wow! I’m shocked David’s is still doing that! It happened when I bought my dress almost 22 happy years ago. I thought for sure they’d knocked off that nonsense by this point.
Those huns are locked into the bridal industry! So shady.
I'm crocheting an asymmetrical shawl with my leftover yarns while listening to this one at 10ish pm down here in Australia, because obviously I need to make winter clothing in summer 😂
You could send it to us here in Connecticut in the US. We just got our first snow of the winter season ☃️🤣
That sounds like a lovely evening!
I used to clean houses for extra money. One lady tried to push her crappy MLM chemical free products on me and wanted me to use them in her house…they sucked!!! It was impossible to get the showers and bathroom clean with them.
So many people say this! I've heard multiple cleaning services people say that they've been forced to use MLM cleaning products and they made the job 100000x harder
When I heard the licking the raw chicken part I almost fainted, I don't know if it's from cooking a lot or having a mother in the medical field or both, but it filled me with such *HORROR.*
I AM SO GROSSED OUT
OR FROM JUST BEING A NORMAL HUMAN
Not that I was gonna stop, but I’m definitely staying vegetarian now. Dear god
I read on a Facebook group once that there was a stomach flu going around for a family. Someone commented to use bleach and they were like "no, we're a Norwex family." 😳
I'm a nurse and I've heard this in many stories about that wash cloth company and it makes me gag every time
Maybe it's just cuz I'm a newly-discovered lesbian, but going to a party where me and a bunch of girls talk about sex toys and how to make sex feel good is uncomfortable to me.
Like I'm all for sex positivity, but that's definitely not for everyone - and a little scary when i think about female predators. Like they do exist; do these mlms even care about their consultants?
Unless the MLMer and many of the party goers were also queer and even then…
But a group of straight ladies talking to me about dildos??? I can’t.
I totally get it, I wouldn't want this myself. I once knew a fellow lesbian woman who did such parties for a while before we meet.
Think about the Sex Repulsed Asexuals. We would probably pass out and die on the spot
"female predators" lol. its not like a woman can actually rape someone
I'm with you. This doesn't sound fun at all.
"Honestly" is a Spanish / English antimlm channel. She makes really good contact. I think she would be really grateful for a little shout-out. 🙂
Damsel in Defense is actually super problematic beyond just being an MLM (dangerous electronic work on stun guns, also shilling overpriced supplements with mystery ingredients, specifically targeting victims of assault, etc.). Illuminaughtii did a great piece on it a year or so ago. Stuff looks like cute versions of normal self defence kit, but it's twice the price and not even half the quality, and 'pink taxing' assault victims is a special kind of low.
Ooooo, buddy.... Blair was doing some shady shiz behind the scenes....
i don't get it...they prey on people who are sick and vulnerable, and then they get pissed off and demote them when they need time away for treatment, hospital visits etc...like, YOU picked ME, you should expect this to happen.
Dang that’s such a good point!
I actually went to a Pure Romance party in college, and, for lack of a better term, it just felt... juvenile. I am not here to shame anyone for what they’re into, but sitting around and giggling like middle schoolers at lewd jokes and innuendos just wasn’t my cup of tea. Thank you for these videos! You are the kindest and most articulate anti-MLM UA-camr!
Yes this is such a great way of putting it! I would feel the same way. Like cool, you do you, but also can we please be adults about it?
The Antibot is also very kind. I agree though. Hannah is very kind, calm and articulate.
I’m surprised Annie didn’t jump from behind the Christmas tree at the white elephant gift exchange! I KNEW ONE DAY YOU WOULD WANT MY PRODUCTS. Lmaoo
Lol
OMG SAME 💀😂
I was a bridesmaid in my cousin’s wedding, and her maid of honor was a Norwex rep. Our wedding favors were Norwex cloths and lip balm plus a sales pitch 😬
Wtf
EW that's so tacky
I’m former LDS and my hubs is still active. My bff is still active as well and she gets into mlms constantly. Kinda breaks my heart
I think you receive so many compliments at the beginnings of emails because YOU DESERVE THEM! You really are truly eloquent, polite, and diplomatic in your reactions.
You’re too sweet Emily! 🥺
@@HannahAlonzo also unlike the mlm ers, most of the folks listening/watching your channel Are polite and have a kind way about themselves.
Kiki was my gateway too! It's a shame she doesn't do much antimlm now
I know!! I wish she still did. She has such a hilarious delivery and dry humor I love it 😂
Agreed. But what she did do was usher in the "next generation" of creators if you will, and I think she really understood that and was able to hand off the torch with grace (i.e. and never claimed it was her thing and no one else could do it). It's like a butterfly effect: what would have happened if Kiki Chanel never posted antiMLM? I shudder to think!
She was the first creator I could sit and listen to about this stuff, she's got such an amazing voice.
I miss Kiki she's awesome but Hannah is just as wonderful 💖
@@doubleh4039 yes! Kiki has such a nice voice and is beautiful too but Hannah definitely is taking the torch...equally well spoken and beautiful
I am literally on a road trip home (riding not driving) and you are providing me entertainment on my road trip. Thank you.
Have a safe trip home!!
Pro tip for everyone from a cook and a former cutco rep: if you are being pitched cutco by someone you don't want to say no to, the only things they sell even close to what they're being sold for are the table knives (better at cutting meat than most steak knives I've used at fancy restaurants and won't damage your plates either, still using daily a decade later), the kitchen shears (way better and easier to clean than any other shears I've had, also use daily ten years later) and the spreader/spatula thing (use every time I make a sandwich or serve something like a lasagna).
My parents bought an entire block from me for like $250 to support me right out of high school, and they handed it all to me when I moved out, and I only use those anymore.
Everything else is pretty pointless and you can get better for cheaper somewhere else, but those 3 are at least unique to cutco and very good at what they're made for, more so than other knives/shears
with the way the quality of everything has gone down, even if those same style of products are being sold, i don't trust many recommendations that are a few years old at this point, unfortunately :(
from clothing to home appliances, no matter the price range, everything is lasting less & less.
I'm German as well and the only experience I've had over here with MLMs is Tupperware, which is a very big thing here but a lot of people just buy it for its 100 year guarantee and don't join anything. There's even this joke where Germans say that your mother will forgive you everything unless your forget to give her back her Tupperware. However, it must be said that nowadays Tupperware doesn't necessarily mean the company anymore and just wares that are of the same consistency :)
Oh and a friend bought Herbal Life for 200€ because she was desperate to lose weight. Thankfully she didn't sign up for anything though.
We know we don't HAVE TO give you compliments, we just do that because you're so nice!
Since I am a single woman living in a downtown area in a large city I bought myself a personal tazer from Damsel in Defense, I just searched online and found it. Had NO IDEA it was an MLM company. I learn so much from watching your videos!
We don't *have* to give compliments, but we do because it's the truth. Your voice is important in the antiMLM world, and the ripple effect of what you do matters. We need to have a bouquet of creators, because people will no doubt find one person who really speaks to them and their experience. One thing I've learned in the professional world is that sometimes the most important thing we bring to our practice is *who* we are, not simply what we know. Of course I'm here to giggle along at the strange and the silly, but in the end I appreciate you, and how you see the people behind the scheme, and that's who matters, and who we all want to help. My less dignified and poetic self also wants to say this: NORWEX SUCKS. Salmonella is real, y'all!
A bouquet of creators, that’s beautiful! 🥺 I completely agree!
My mom hosted a Norwex party and I was never impressed with the products. There cloths began to reek after using them for some time and the laundry detergent was terrible. There are plenty of products you can purchase in drug and grocery stores that are now made with less harsh chemicals.
I’ve been watching for a week now like crazy. My 9 month old now smiles when you come on the screen
MLMs are a complete PLAGUE in latinoamerica and there's ZERO resources. I have a really hard time explaining things to people in spanish because I only know the specific vocabulary and terminology in English. We need resources in Spanish desperately honestly.
Yes absolutely!! 🙏🏼
MLM Exit has a spanish reddit community r ANTIMLMespanol and she shares bilingual antimlm content
Yayy thank you for sharing!
It's rude to have people that are financially struggling that know what is bad for their finances to be nagged and guilt tripped to potentially spend some form of money that's in their name that they don't have.
Favvvvvv anti-mlm content creator! It’s been so exciting watching your channel grow
Grace!! You’re so sweet! Thanks for being here!
John Oliver has the anti mlm video, also in Spanish. It’s linked in his multilevel marketing video. His video was super good!!!
Oh my gosh I didn’t know this! Thank you! I’ve seen the English one but didn’t know it was also in Spanish! ❤️
@@HannahAlonzo the way he/his team, made sure to cover the topic in English as well as Spanish. Using their untapped finances, is wonderful!! Pretty sure they used a well known Spanish soap star to do John Oliver’s part.
Sheesh, this made me remember the time for "career day" there was a Mary Kay rep to try to rope in middle schoolers. Like... why? I never joined.
I just listened to a bunch of your videos while driving to a funeral a couple hundred miles and back, kept my anxiety from taking over my mind. Thanks, Hannah!
The sad thing is, cutco knives are actually incredible. My parents bought a set 12 years ago and they’ve held up and are just as sharp. So, at least it’s an mlm with a decent product
That one about having to host the party makes me wonder since when is a party game a legally binding contract
And it’s bullying. No matter what kind of situation they got themselves stuck in, it doesn’t justify the bullying and shaming and trying to ‘force’ people to host a party as if it’s someone’s ‘responsibility’ to open their home and host a party just because they got a little slip of paper saying that was their ‘prize.’ What a load of bullshit.
“Objective point of view” the first letter nailed that!! It’s impossible to get through to my friend with it works - it doesn’t work and it’s expensive and her posts make me sad with the more I know from anti-MLM content. Please spread the word whatever language you speak people - it really works once someone is READY to hear it (sound like a cult much?!?!?!?)
I asked my mother to write down every experience she had with MLM - we're from Germany and as the story in your video suggests, it's really not as prevalent. We had Tupperware back then and my mother used to make quite a bit of money with it but there's more that's probably not well known. Once I have translated it all I can send it over via mail. There's quite some tragic things in there.
That's so crazy that you mention LDS members being involved in MLM'S because there is a famous murder case that happened in 2008 in Arizona where the victim was Mormon and he was part of Prepaid Legal, now I think it's called Legal Shield. I followed the case for several years and was fascinated by it but for some reason It didn't clue in for me that the victim was working for an MLM company until now lol. It's the case of Travis Alexander if anyone is curious.
Omggg a wild case. I never considered that he was in an mlm either. Wow..
Omg!!! I'm French and never knew that Tupperware is a mlm. Here we usually call that type of plastic containers Tupperware even when they are not from the brand Tupperware
"It's almost as if common courtesy, common boundaries don't apply to [MLM reps]" it's not almost it, that's literary it. Their main tactics revolve around breaking the social contract but riding on the fact that the victim is not going to break it themselves.
It's pretty awful but also kinda brilliant, in an Evil sort of way? People will feel super uncomfortable, bc the rep broke all the social standards by guilting them, asking invasive questions or being uber pushy, but them themselves cannon force a 'leave me alone!' or 'you are out of line' not to make a scene. Except the rep is ALREADY making a scene, already breaking all the norms. So let's just break them too and say 'leave this woman alone' instead of buying 90$ worth of useless product. We just need to remember they already broke the common boundaries. If we try to make them 'save face' or be really nice, bc we don't want to seem rude, we are walking into the trap. They are already rude.
As long, as the victim is bound by social norms that the predator already broke, the predator has the upper hand.
Yessss so well put!!!
Another reason boundaries need to be taught, maybe in the same class with financial literacy.
I don’t know how people sell Cutco. The last knife set I purchased was online with no one coming to my house.
OMG I had no idea damsel in defense was an MLM! My mom bought me the stun gun, strike tool and pepper spray because I was having problems with a weird/borderline creepy neighbor years ago! That is wild.
That one story in this video always makes me laugh because "Annie from Norwex" sounds like a costumer service chat bot
I dont remember if I mentioned this already, I apologize if I did. I join beachbody for a week or two a long time ago. Lol I did not know it was an mlm. When I figure out I had to sell stuff or post at fb all the time I quit, nah I'm too lazy for that. I join believing in the workouts and thing like that not selling shakeology and making videos or zoom calls. Luckily I only lost like one payment for the program and then call it quits.
I’m happy to hear you realized it was an MLM quickly so you didn’t lose too much money!
There are so many pageants that have MLM reps as a sponsor of a pageant and its gross to me. Some of these young women are in HS still and having Mary Kay, Herbalife, YOUNique or Arbonne reps sponsoring a pageant is unsavory to say the least and it happens ALL the time.
Yeah I'm in Ohio and I've heard of damsels in defense. My mom bought some stuff from them either at a party or at a craft show. I've never had reason to use the product so I can't say if it actually works
I've seen it at craft shows here in Minnesota too.
Be kinda awful if it doesn't 😬
Oh girl, I have stories about pageants. MLMs are RAMPANT in them and as a makeup artist, people would constantly try to rope me in. 🤮
The mlm huns are constantly trying to get my pageant system to "fundraise" with them! Its a constant battle 🤢
omg. when I heard the mark by Avon it brought up so much. my mom worked AVON back in the early 2000s, and I remember being brought to all those events. just hearing that brought me back to the training videos and 'fun mini games' they had on the website to train you into being one of their sales drones. pretty creepy since I was only 11 at the time they pushed me into it.
Any company can suddenly go under. One I was working for did. It was fun suddenly being stranded in tx.
Damsel In Defense rings a bell! My mother in law gave me a cute pink taser that said “Damsel in Defense” on it. She didn’t try to sell me on anything. I think she was just trying to get rid of it lol!
There was a damsel in distress card at one of my old gyms and I was interested but I never contacted anyone. I had no idea it was an MLM until I looked at a big list of them lol. Glad I dodged that bullet. I would like to take self defense classes tho
Yeah I think it’s a cute name for a company and a good product range! Just wish it wasn’t an MLM
Lia Sophia was an MLM that had to shut down. It was the first MLM I was introduced to about 14yrs ago after having my oldest son. Yep- I joined. Didn’t ever get anyone under me but did have some parties - pre crazy online social media hun post days. My experience isn’t horrifying but Lia Sophia may be one you want to look into b/c I know there were some lawsuits against them & people burned in the process of their abrupt shut down.
Thanks Hannah for sharing your content in a classy way. 👍🏼👍🏼 -Sommer
There are French speaking anti MLM content creators. To my knowledge, these ones are only from French speaking Canada (not limited to Quebec). There might be some from France and French speaking Belgium, but as of now the most I have seen are Canadians who speak French and not Europeans who also speak French.
I hated the day I found out norwex was an mlm. I have a few cloths from my mom, regular cleaning cloth and glass cloth, and while I don't trust them to remove germs, they are the best quality cleaning cloths I've ever had. I am on the hunt for some of similar quality so I don't feel like I am supporting an mlm, but I've yet to find something that compares. The glass one cleans with just water and I haven't had to buy glass cleaner in a long time.
Have you tried E- Cloth?
I reluctantly attended a Norwex party and bought enviro cloth and shine cloth as well as laundry soap. Cloths clean windows brilliantly with only water and laundry soap is completely scent free! I was never asked to host a party and reorder product several times per year.
I've been binge watching this playlist for DAYS and I'm deeply tempted to create an anti MLM channel in Spanish. Hoping is not too late because this video might be a sign for me!! ❤
Hi Hanna Im doing Filipino/English AntiMLM videos and Frontrow a whitening MLM sponsors and now partly owns
Ms Universe Philippines.
So I’ve been watching a few of your vids. I found you because I saw a vid and it was all like “Tired of working 9-5 and want to be your own boss drop a heart” so I did and of course it turned out to be an MLM. At first I wasn’t sure so I googled it (it’s called Purium) and sure enough it is and then I was like god show me if I should even waste my time then I go onto UA-cam this morning and see MLM horror stories. I wasn’t planning on joining cuz it doesn’t sound like a good deal in the first place but your videos really solidified the yeah hell no I’m not. Plus when I looked it up they used to have lead in their drinks and they don’t answer costumer complaints and I’m like yeah no def don’t wanna be a part of that. It’s crazy cuz they really try to sell that “people have been praying for answers in these dark times”
Mlms are way more common in Germany than people think.
I only know one very small creator who occasionally makes anti-MLM content in German.
I know that in France it would be really hard to establish a true MLM, though some might exist. French corporate law prohibits most every tactic used by MLMs. And I just think with how onerous self-employment is in France, MLM structures aren’t very attractive as “side gigs” even if they were allowed to operate.
Germany, Switzerland and Austria have a bit looser corporate legal codes and would only prohibit such companies if most or all of one’s income is generated via recruitment. I’ve heard too that what’s common in the German-speaking world is for MLMs to skirt regulation by charging “newsletter fees” rather than membership fees or the like.
Is that even legal that they can do that to people when they have serious illnesses like cancer? That’s deplorable! He shouldn’t even be legal!
Listen, I know I know I know Cutco is not a company we should support, but damnit it sucks because those knives work. My parents bought some 20 years ago, along with the pair of scissors that cut a penny, and the knives haven't dulled and have never been sharpened. I wish they didn't have such a terrible business model. They would probably actually sell a lot more knives if they just sold them in stores and dropped the MLM bit.
I used to work for Cutco( or as they called themselves Vector Marketing) we were taught to bring a pineapple and a penny, we would use a large knife to cut though the pineapple, and we would cut a penny in half with scissors, both to show how good the knifes were. I know we had other foods that we cut but it was a while ago. I will say the knives are good but it’s still a mlm and they tricked us into thinking we were working for a legitimate company, so in a way it was worse. And yes all of us were Highschool students.
Lia Sophia was a jewelry MLM that went out of business a few years ago.
There's some irony in naming a pyramid scheme line of products aimed at teens "mark."
the thumbnail. we've reached full UA-camr mode
OMG! Damsels In Defense is a MLM?! My taekwondo school had a self-defense lesson back in the day and they came and sold products after we hosted the lesson. I still have the stun-gun! 😱😱😱
Damn! I had no idea Usbourne books was an MLM! We love their books…
Me 2
Oooo 5:02 reminds me that my girlfriend in the Netherlands had to work with a fellow who was in a crypto mlm, and apparently a LOT of young Dutch men get roped into financial/trading mlms. He was trying to pitch it to other male colleagues, it was funny though because I'd only just introduced her to crypto/trading scams and then boom, found one in the wild 😅 So if there isn't a Dutch anti mlm UA-camr out there, there's a need for one!
It’s like as soon as you know what to look for, THEY’RE EVERYWHERE!
I am just going through and binging all of these - I love that you create a list of people that you have helped.
I’m just now realizing how many mlms my mom has purchased from …. Omg
Right?? I feel the same way!
. It’s totally pathetic when MLM companies run out of adults to prey on, and now they have to to prey on the “newly-18” crowd. It just shows how “predatory” that these companies really are. These companies are totally disgusting!!!!!!
Yes! Damsel in Defense, it does sell defense items. It was actually kinda cool lol I hosted a party back in the day and still have the items.
Yeah that’s a product line I could get behind!
@@HannahAlonzo and honestly I learned a lot! We need to find one that isn't an MLM.
I wonder how much Monat Huns will loose their shit when the company just disappears one day. Which it will. The question is when, but one day it’ll be gone. And then what?
You get the compliments because you deserve them.
The fact that everyone has a cutco story blows my mind!! I really thought it was a local thing here for years!
So happy to include your videos in my nightly routine again! 😂💖
Yayy! Happy to be back to posting!
My grandma sold Herbalife for YEARSSS. She really believed in the products but she was never pushy about selling the products. When health related conversations would come up she would talk about Herbalife and people would ask to try it. If they liked it they would come to her and ask her to order more products. If they didn’t she would not bother them about it. She was retired and sold them as something to do on the side so she wasn’t in need of funds. But Herbalife is notorious for preying on the Hispanic community. I also see this one girl that will post about yo unique and other makeup related MLMs. She never wears makeup and when she posts videos promoting the products, her makeup is awful because she doesn’t know how to do makeup. Like how am I going to buy your products when you don’t even know how to use it😑
Have you ever thought about speaking at High Schools. I think it would be cool to do a presentation where there is no bias or judgement just:
"This is an MLM, this is what they do, this is how they work"
I think like you said, most teens don't even know what these "businesses" are. I think just a quick awareness presentation would be welcome in most schools.
I think you should consider, if you can pay for the service, to pay for subtitles added to your videos. They can translate your videos and you can reach other people. Plus, it also helps hard-of-hearing viewers.
the last one is horror story, i hate the fact that MLMs get into education and sport, this is dystopian
I just looked at pure romance and their toys are like $200… I can buy the same thing at Walmart for $40😂
Australia is HUGE for MLM ‘s as well.
Danny Torres has a few videos about multi level marketing scams. I've noticed a lot of Spanish speaking channels have more one-off content about multilevel marketing scams.
If you ever feel like finding more anti-MLM content the Spanish keyword is "estafas multineveles" or something along those lines. :)
I'm watching all your videos as I've recently found your channel....erm the amount of Norwex stories where they mention the licking the chopping board that had raw 🐔 on it is astonishing! Literally so shocking!!!
I love your channel btw! The way you do your videos is something I just love 👌
There's so many companies that I didn't even realize are MLMs like Nuskin. There's a influencer called Perrie Sian Walker who has a HUGE following and she constantly talks about the Lumi spa and other products and puts it up for people to buy etc and I realised it was nuksin and it's an mlm. Surprised noone called her out yet but doesn't look like she recruits but I'm not sure! Your channel as opened my eyes even more to how to spot these kinda companies! Thanks and keep the videos coming
I have to say, I do love my Norwex products, especially the glasses cleaning cloths and the laundry detergent. And I'm lucky, the rep I bought through is way less pushy than she could be, and did a lot of actually no-strings-attached giveaways, so a lot of the product I have was free. She has also never tried to recruit me. The version of the raw chicken demos I have seen used these bacteria test kits. They would use one on the plate or cutting board the chicken had been on, then again after using the cloth, and you could see that the kits were first positive and then negative. It was really interesting. I find that they work well and I'm happy with what I have, and also very grateful that she hasn't been pushy since I have stopped buying, since I have everything I need.
I had a Damsel in Defense taser, and wish I knew what I had done with it. Maybe I'll find it when I move. What I love is that it has this wristband (and you can get one that is all blinged out, lol) that plugs into the unit and completes the electrical circuit. It won't work with that unplugged, so if your assailant is able to get it out of your hand, it will come unplugged and then they cannot use it against you. That is a safety feature I really love. I'd actually like to get another one if mine doesn't turn up in the move. And as I recall, the friend who bought it for me also got a free pepper spray with the purchase. I do think I know where that is.
On the note of the last story, it's not just Miss Rodeo America - Senegrace (Lipsense) sponsors the Miss USA pageant as well with the same vibe of contractual obligations to promote it of all of the contestants including the teen, and junior teen versions, which means that there are 13 to 19 year olds who are being contractually obligated to promote an MLM product that's known to damage your lips. In the case of Miss USA pageants, it is sponsored by the actual MLM themselves, not an individual rep, with it being publicised to the hills and back, but if it wasn't that way for the pageant in the story it is likely to be an individual rep who has dropped the money which big yikes.
Sex Toy MLMs that are active at this time (to the best of my knowledge) include:
Pure Romance
Tasteful Treasures/LOVEWINX
Fantasia Home Parties which is technically a subsidiary of LOVEWINX (it's weird)
Fantasia (not to be confused with Fantasia Home Parties and based out of Canada)
Bedroom Kandi (This is the sex toy party company started by Real Housewives of Atlanta star and singer Kandi Burruss)
Intimate Tickles
Pillow Talk Parties
Naughty Cocktail Parties
Whaaaaaat this is sooo many I had no idea!
These company names made me cringe so hard that I nearly got a hernia
I just remembered the one I had a friend in about 15 years ago. Passion Parties.
@@kristin4160 I remember that one!
Ann Summers - UK - I hosted a party when I was 21 (20+ years ago) and at uni - luckily I just did one party and got enough commission to buy one product and never signed up.
I bet 9/10 of the cards are "HOST A NORWEX PARTY"
I've been binging your playlist for the last week or so and I think the saddest thing I've ever heard is Eliza's story. I hope she's doing ok.
I was raised (and still live) in Utah, I’m a former Mormon (born and raised), and I used to work for an MLM at the corporate level. Not only do Mormons have a higher probability of joining MLMs, you’ll notice most-if not all-of the MLMs headquartered in Utah are owned and operated by Mormons. Utah’s a weird place, folks. Beautiful geographically, but oh so weird.
Oh god …. The ad I just had was a MLM ad…. A French mlm I didn’t even know they could make UA-cam ads!
So random question but did Avon sponsor Edward Scissorhands? Love that movie lol.
Heeyyy girl. I had a super weird interaction with someone from a mom's group I'm in and was wondering if you'd cover Primerica? This lady was dead set it isn't an MLM buutttt she was also trying to recruit me to sell insurance with her? Man I don't know it's super weird and icky feeling
Definitely a MLM and a disgusting company with shady practices.
It’s 100% an MLM and I 0% recommend you get involved 😂 I may cover it in its own deep dive in the future!
@@HannahAlonzo lol oh I would never! I had a little bit of a back and forth argument about it being an MLM. She wouldn't tell me the name, then when she did she told me the name of an insurance agency that is out of business, but I looked at the reviews and in the reviews saw the owner of said agency is part of Primerica. It was all super gross and scammy.
@@briannahatcher9422 Ugh sooo scammy!
Didn't know that Damsel in Defense was an MLM, I've gotten it at our local Academy. Weird.
I've thought about starting an antimlm Chanel in Spanish BUT...
I'm very shy and I'm based in Mexico and here MLM aren't that big.
There are a few like DOTERRA, MK, AVON, NUSKIN,.... but not many people have enough money to get scammed long enough... or at least I don't know ANYBODY in an MLM here.
However, I have seen some creator from SPAIN, specially reporting on igenius
Wow, her friend was soooo magnanimous to agree to drive her and sit in the parking lot (as if she couldn’t just go to a movie or the mall or whatever), then as soon as you *might* get a recruit, she holds out her hand, despite being out $0? I think she has a plan all along. 😒 She is almost as bad as that girl’s shady ass up line. With friends like these, who needs enemies? I hope you don’t talk to either of them anymore honestly.
I know this is an older video but your first story regarding the German person and their statement that MLMs seem less common in Germany made me think.
I almost wonder if there is a connection with other countries' social programs and labor laws (as in actually having them) and how uncommon MLMs are for them.
Its just that my personal experience centered around my inability to afford to live and it being preyed upon. It sounds like a lot of people who are struggling financially are preyed upon and since there are really no helpful programs from the government (there are some programs but the income threshold is often very low and just because you make more than that doesn't mean you can afford to live in your city/state).
Not gonna lie, we still have our entire set of Cutco knives. I was a kid when the salesman did his pitch in our house. He cut around the entire edge of a penny, left with a beautiful copper coil. Seriously the knives are not bad at all. Just sucks that the way they would recruit people, cause even I somehow ended up at a Cutco “interview”. 😂