Test Tru Max Super Insulator Foil, Frost King Duct Insulation, Lizard Skin, Episode 368 Autorestomod
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2018
- Heat Barrier, heat control, we all need to control the temperature in our muscle cars. Heat is one thing that can sap the fun out of a drive. What works to control the cabin temperatures? We test jute carpet backing for heat control. We test Tru-Max to see how it controls heat. We Test Frost King to see how it controls high temps. Jeff and Cam also test Lizard Skin for temperature control.
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great information Jeff and Cam!
I used Peel n Seal on my '68 Mustang. It's very affordable and does an awesome job blocking out the heat. You can find it at most home improvement stores, I found mine at Lowe's. I also taped up the seams with the same tape that you used in your video. I've had it on my car for about 9 years and it's held up perfectly.
How much did you need? I have a 65 I was thinking about using it.
Sorry Andy but it's been so long I don't remember, I'm guessing maybe 10 rolls and two rolls of tape. I do remember I covered just about everything, the wheel wells, inner rockers, firewall as high as I could get it, the panel behind the rear seat. I didn't do the roof for fear the sun would cause it to fall. Wear gloves when molding it into the floor pan or you'll get blisters. On a summer day I couldn't sit at a stop light without sitting in a pool of sweat, now the car is a pleasure to drive. Make sure you tape up the seams with foil tape (type used to seal hvac ducts). Cost wise, it's about 1/4 what Dynamat is. Although it's not as thick .045 vs .067. I doubled up on the transmission hump and driveshaft tunnel just to be safe.
@@rocketsurgery8337 thank you. your comments are still helpful 2 years later
The frost king is more for sound then it is heat. I use it in my Bronco and the Highway noise is much better and I'm more relaxed at the end of a trip then when I wasn't using it.
We can see that. However, most folks are using it on headliners as heat control. That is why we tested it as such. BUT...that bring up an idea for a sound control video =)
I used Peel n Seal on the roof of my son's 1992 Mustang coupe, it lowered the heat, but, more importantly, it reduced oil canning of the roof.
Yep. Peel and Seal will cut temps a little but more importantly (since the headliner has fiberglass heat control built in) stops the oil can sounds.
I lizard skin my 68 impala, I used both sound and heat control. I sprayed the application.
Inside and out, I also did the entire firewall.
I have had 0 wear issues, the stuff was as thick and slick as bed liner
We did have some wear issues in the '67 Mustang. Glad you did a better job than us! =)
Wish I watched this before I installed Frost King on the floor of my 67 Mustang. Out of curiosity, did you happen to test Frost King insulation with the jute on? I plan on leaving the jute on my Mass-Back carpeting.
The foil of the frost king will help slow the heat front, as will the stock jute. We didn't test it though.
I ended up driving my Mustang with no carpet and just the Frost King. When I placed my hand under the Frost King, it was significantly warmer than above it.
Based on this, I concluded that it definitely helps. But as Autorestomod proved, there are better solutions.
I put everything back together, and cabin is cooler. As an added bonus, most road noise has been eliminated on the highway. In addition to a single layer of Frost King, I added Mass back carpeting with jute, factory style underlayment, and new firewall padding. Everything fit appropriately.
I`m installing new carpet in my Chevelle using American Custom Carpet with Mass Backing. Should I add additional insulation or is the Mass Backing enough?
I'd want the added insulation if it were me.
Which product do you recommend for the cargo area of a cargo van that would be converted to a campervan?
How many layers of product would you suggest for this application?
Is there an R-Value for this product?
Does your recommended product off-gas toxic fumes?
Depends on if you are flooring the van or just putting carpet back down. Two layers would probably do you right. All you are trying to do is slow down the heat...or cold in the case of a cargo van.
I've also been trying to decide whether or not to use Frost King in my van (for the ceiling and possibly walls as a first layer behind XPS), but I can't seem to find any information about whether or not it off-gases anything. Did you ever find that answer or what did you end up doing?
The other thing I found that I like is this smart sheild stuff on Amazon, you can get a ton of it for only $50 but its not self adhesive so I'd have to figure out how to adhere it to the ceiling, which needs to fit tightly so moisture doesn't get behind it.
Hope this isn't a dumb question. I want to insulate my minivan against heat AND cold. I'm assuming this insulation product combinations work in both extremes? I may be spending some time in Minot, North Dakota in the near future...
Not sure what you did to have to go to Minot but the product would. However, the TruMax is no longer available. You will have to use the UltraTouch from Bonded Logic, most home improvement stores carry it. Your biggest problem will be your windows in controlling your heat envelope. A lot of the van guys I see on here make window shields and barriers between the sleeping area and the cab of the van too.
@@AutoRestoMod thank you. I am making window coverings with reflectix and fabric with jute sandwiched between.
I'm using my van as a camper to visit family. I was adopted and my family found me in October of last year. My house burned down in September and I worked from home. I lost everything, so nothing is tying me down.
Might as well meet my family. Time to start living.
at 10:08 he said the foil and jute are absorbing the heat. Is the double sided aluminum filled with jute in the middle? Im looking for coolest with OUT jute, who do you recommend thats not sponsoring you to say so?
Last time I checked, Summit is not sponsoring Autorestomod. Not sure why you don't want the jute. There really isn't a good alternative in the automotive market that I am aware of.
Y no jute - I dont want anything that will hold water (re; 7:07 - 8:20). I off road a lot, have top off, in the rain, lots of water. Looking for waterproof padding. Some have said home improvement stores have waterproof padding, works fine. IDK
Hi from Canada, what is the best option for extreme cold ?
I'd have to lean to Bonded Logic.
im a little late, but my thinking is , you have to cut holes in it for seats wires ect. so water is going to get into the fabric. now you have the water sealed off on top and below and it cant get anywhere. atleast in the other ones it can evaporate and leave
There is some logic to your way of looking at it. We will typically lay the wires on top of the underlayment and under the carpet and use the duct tape to hold them in place.
AutoRestoMod Car Restoration Modification sounds like we need a test to see how different sound deadners works with water. Like a few bare pieces of metal and pour some water on then and let it sit for few weeks. That same test just keeping the carpet damp.
Hi guys, how does this affect the fitment of a carpet set? Cheers
Not at all
At 16:20 you use Frost King with tape toward the flame. AL (aluminum) deflects the heat so why not tape it to the under body so the heat hits the AL and reflects away from the floorboard, then test how much heat makes it through to your feet..
Well, mostly because of road wear. We try and do practicals...ways that you would use it on a daily basis. A shield would be very effective though
It looks like everyone is selling the foam style heat barriers instead of the jute style. Is the foam better than the jute?
I don't find that it works as well as the jute. We did a couple test.
What about Dynamat, does it dissipate heat also?
To a degree.
Where is the best place to find Trumax? What's the best alternative?
Bonded Logic stopped production on the product shown here. They do still offer a single side foil. You can find it under the UltraTouch Radiant Barrier name.
@@AutoRestoMod Is it still the best heat deflector out there?
Ceramic paint does a great job and its cheap about $15 a spray can.
Interesting.
What about the adhesive turning loose?
Haven't had it happen yet.
Where do I buy Tru Max insulation?
Sadly the Tru Max product is no more. Bonded Logic sells an Ultratouch Radiant Barrier product (Foil on one side) but the double foil has gone away. Many of the home improvement centers will carry the UltraTouch.
Cant find those Tru-Max mats anywhere.
They have done away with the double foil. I have found it on eBay at times.
Isn't jute the same as 1/4 house carpet insulation? Looks the same to me.
Nope, Jute is a fibrous material where most household carpet underlayment is foam.
What insulation do you recommend for an auto roof in Florida?
Ford used fiberglass batting, GM a fiber glass mat. If you can use Landau glue, I would consider using Tru Max from Summit Racing.
@@AutoRestoMod Thank you so much for your quick response!!!
Always Lizzard Skin - No Question.
You would want somewhere that rejects the heat not dissipate the heat like a ceramic heat paint and it would be less thick and no interfere to much with fit
Almost every product even those that are ceramic based don't reject the heat they slow it's movement through the metal. At least that's my experience with it.
funny how the carpet is same temp before and after 90 degrees
Weird. And we didn't fudge numbers.
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Zero issues with the production quality of Autorestomod. Their videos practically taught me everything I know. Keep up the good work guys!
Why couldn't you use bottom paint for boats in place of the lizard skin? I would think it is the same and rust-oleum only cost 30 bucks a gallon.
Not even close.
Have you tried the Bottom Paint for boats on your car?? Just curios to know if it's the same as Lizard Skin. I'm looking to do my 65 mustang, looking for the best product for heat/ sound control.
Sorry
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We mock many many things...including your spelling of out....