I really find it funny how some people in this comment section are talking about how unrealistic it is that they are not moving ships and the flak is too low. Guys, this video was meant to demonstrate the power of the 12,000 lb bomb against ships. This wasn’t meant to simulate a battle.
The "Cookie" was a thin walled blast bomb used to flatten large areas of buildings. The Earthquake bombs of 12000lbs were used to sink the Tirpitz, the 22.000lb used to topple the Bielefeld viaduct. These were supersonic, deep penetration bombs, which would have easily destroyed a capital ship.
Agree. Especially from a level bomber. But I do think if you got within 75-100 feet of it you would do some serious damage just from the pressure wave hitting the side of the ship.@@PxThucydides
Interesting thing about all of those direct hits from a high altitude bunker buster is that none of the ships was split in half or capsized. With this much speed and payload, a 6 ton bomb would punch through at least 3 decks if not more and discharge near the keel which would split the ship in half. Another scenario would be igniting main magazines and resulting splitting the hull. Somehow this simulation is very formulated...
This bomb can't, because it isn't a Tallboy, it's just a standard Bomber Command 12000-lb high capacity "Blockbuster". These were designed to maximize blast, and were used to blow the roofs off of buildings, allowing 2-lb. incendiary sticks to penetrate deep into the interior, burning out the building.
War Thunder doesnt support all those fancy animations and mechanics on large ships, also it doesnt need to be an AP bomb to turn a ship into a million pieces
I just wonder why the captain did not take evasive actions. As the bomber is known on its bomb run, evasive actions would at least minimize a direct hit.
@@aurorathearcticwolf4243 If it is an armored ship, like a battleship, it pretty much does. A light case bomb, like a 12,000-lb blockbuster, is impact fuzed, so it goes off on contact with the first solid thing it encounters--like the superstructure of a ship, or its upper deck. The explosion creates a blast wave and minimal fragmentation, which will rip up deckhouses, masts, exposed gun mounts, and so on. The shock effect might be transmitted through the hull, and dismount machinery and fixtures below deck; it can also start fires. But the ship's horizontal (deck) armor will protect its vitals--the machinery compartments, the magazines, and the turrets. Usually, horizontal armor schemes consist of two decks: a main deck, intended to stop the projectile from penetrating; and a thinner splinter deck, intended to catch any fragments, should the projectile actually penetrate the main deck. Sometimes the thinner deck is placed above the main deck, to initiate the fuze of an armor piercing projectile, which will then explode before penetrating the main armored deck. But, either way, unless the projectile penetrates the vitals, damage to the ship will be structurally superficial, but may result in a mission kill by disabling the fire control sensors.
Problem: It is VERY DIFFICULT to hit a precise target (especially if it is maneuvering) without a guidance system for the bomb.That goes double from high altitude.
Without a guidance system, forget it. The Tirpitz was anchored and not moving and it took several missions to sink it, until getting a direct hit on a non moving target
Most ships were damaged intentionally out at sea to get them to port if the submarines or other nearby ships couldn't finish them off. Port Strike was the primary way to get a ship written off. Level bombers created havoc for ships at most. Torpedo Bombers and Dive Bombers were the way to hit ships out at sea.
No kidding, I would say IMPOSSIBLE. Plus, those ships in the video aren't even moving (sitting ducks). So it becomes yet more difficult if they are taking evasive action. But fun to watch
The main problem is that Midway and Guadalcanal proved very decisively that high-level bombing didn't work. If you wanted to use land based bombers it was found B-25 or like type medium bomber flying at mast height and skipping bombs across the water was the only way to hit shipping. Had the target been moving there's next to no way you could have hit it at a safe altitude
Yes, that is true. However, if a 12,000 pound bomb just does a near miss, it will buckle the hull and may even have an effect on the keel. Though I think even getting a near miss from high altitude would be a stroke of luck.
Hitting a fast battleship from medium altitude is nearly impossible as a ship at 27kt+ can maneuver just enough in the 30 sec a free fall bomb dropped from 15k ft. However, a large bomb, mostly explosive, no armor piercing case, all weight in charge, should hit water near, set to detonate say about 100 ft should cause enough turbulence to damage the propeller shaft, forcing reduced speed to the point that it can be hit
The Iowa class battleships could reach 34 knots and wound engage in evasive maneuvers. It’s one thing to drop a bomb from a Lancaster on a moored ship and quite another on one weaving around at flank speed.
Likelihood of hitting a moving, maneuvering ship from that kind of altitude with a single bomb approaches that of hitting the lotto successfully 3 times in a row, IMO.
@@simonbarber5440 I think if the war had carried on for longer than it did, eventually even the 22,000lbs earthquakers would have been equipped with some form of controlled guidance, either radio or even tv cameras. A lot of the 'modern' ordnance was well under development by the end of WW2. Only strange thing is why is a British bomber dropping a bloody big bomb on a British warship!😃
imagine telling an officer in the 1940's that eighty years in the future we use complex, photorealistic computer simulations of the most powerful contemporary ships in the world being destroyed by precision bombing for entertainment purposes
Blockbuster bombs were used in air raids against Germany in WW2, but they can also use to destroy mighty warships when it dropped from a four-engined Avro Lancaster bombers.
Yeah right. The captains of those battleships always drop anchor and sit still when there's an air attack. The Tirpitz was sitting at the dock in Norway when they got her with one of those.
Lesson to be learned, in war you stand still you die. If those ships were at full speed and manouvering, they would have avoided such an high altitude drop
This just shows how the battleship anti aircraft fire power never kept up with bomber development. Aim and shoot and hope for a hit...now there are rockets guided by tracking radars. No need for huge battleships anymore.
“Enemy battleship sunk!” (US) “feindliches Schlachtschiff versenkt” (German) “вражеский линкор затонул!” (Russian) “We sank an enemy Battelship!” (British) “敵戦艦沈没!” (Japanese) “affondata la corazzata nemica!” (Italian) Note: these were copied from google translate so might not be accurate, apologies if they aren’t!
艦船のように動いている標的だと命中どころか至近着弾さえ難しいのでは。とはいえ、実戦例↓にあるような空中爆発だったら、少なくとも艦上の構造物には相当のダメージを与えて、戦闘不能に陥らせることができそう。以下、Wikipedia(en)より。 617 Squadron developed a technique of dropping a 1,000lb MC bomb just before a 12,000lb HC bomb; the shock wave from the 1,000lb explosion fired the pistols on the 12,000lb bomb to give an "air burst";
In the real world, a 12,000-lb high capacity bomb would explode on contact with the battleship. The resulting blast, would cause extensive superstructure damage and kill or wound any personnel on deck. As the bomb was designed to maximize blast effect, it has no penetrative capability; it cannot be fitted with a delay time fuze, because the casing is very thin, and would break open if it hit anything solid (like a steel deck house. The bomb would, therefore, never penetrate the upper deck, let alone the armored deck, the conning tower or the main turret roof. Most of the ship's fire control positions--the forward and after director towers, and secondary range finders mounted in the turrets--would be disabled, which would render the ship combat ineffective, but the vitals would be intact, and the ship could sail back to base under its own power.
You confuse the 12,000-lb high case, with the Barnes Wallis Tallboy, which WAS a deep penetration bomb. This was used to destroy the German battleship Tirpitz; however, that ship was at anchor. The odds of hitting a moving vessel with any free fall bomb from an altitude of 20,000 feet are slim to nil. If, by some odd chance, you did hit it, the bomb would, most likely, pass through the ship and explode beneath the keel, causing serious, probably fatal, damage. A hit on a turret would likely result in a magazine explosion.
@@StuartKoehl Thanks for your comment. I understand about this. The concept of this video is actually about how 12000lb bombs work in WarThunder against battleships. If the battleship moves and avoids it, the content will be uninteresting, and the destructive power of the bomb cannot be verified. Also, the armor piercing mechanics are inadequate in the game at this stage, and thin-shelled conventional bombs are more powerful than they actually are.
@Stuart Koehl The Germans has success with the guided bomb "Fritz X" sinking the Italian Battleship "Roma", almost sinking HMS Warspite, the Italian Battleship "Italia", the US cruiser "USS Savannah", the RN cruiser "HMS Uganda" and possibly 2 US merchantnan. It weighed approx 1600 kg.
@@cliveburt2638 It also almost sank the light cruiser USS Savannah, with a direct hit on the roof of B Turret. The bomb, fortunately, blew out the bottom of the ship, flooding the magazine before it could explode. Fritz-X was built around a 1000-kg (2205-lb.) armor piercing bomb. Released from an altitude of 20,000 feet (which put it above most shipboard anti-aircraft fire), it could achieve transsonic velocity at impact. When it hit the Roma, the bomb penetrated through both protective decks and exploded in the engine room, starting a fire which transmitted to the forward main battery magazine, destroying the ship. To destroy a heavily armored ship with a bomb required two things: a bomb of sufficient weight, and a high impact velocity. Dive bombers, releasing their bombs at 1500 feet, had the accuracy to hit a moving ship, but their bombs, generally weighing 500-1000 lbs., did not have the velocity to penetrate the protective decks of modern battleships (older ships were another story). When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, their solution to destroying the battleships moored inboard on Battleship Row was to convert 1600-lb, 16-inch armor-piercing projectiles from the battleships Nagato and Mutsu into armor piercing bombs to be dropped from Nakajima B5N "Kate" carrier attack aircraft flying at 15,000 feet. That gave the projectile the velocity it needed to penetrate deck armor, and since the ships were stationary and moored close together, the probability of scoring a hit was high. One of these bombs hit the USS Arizona abreast B-turret and detonated her forward magazines, obliterating the forward part of the ship and sinking it almost instantly.
Just a couple of questions why wasn't the Iowa, Bismarck and Yamato not part of this video and how come there were cruisers and Battlecruisers in it when it is a video about battleships?
The bomb actually missed HMS Hood and exploded a short distance off the port side. The concussive effect would have caused severe shock damage and caused flooding in the engine rooms, but I doubt it would caused the ship to explode. It may not have even sunk from the near miss if DC efforts were successful.
12,000lb was Tallboy. 5k lb was a Cookie, 20k lb was a Grand Slam. Tirpitz got hit/near missed by multiple Tallboys. Cookies were very different from Tallboys, the former were 5,000lb incendiary bombs, the latter were 12,000lb Deep Penetration bombs. Very, very different.
Not sure why this seems to be so confusing for people. You can have bombs of the same weights, with different purposes. The most well known 12000lb bomb is the deep-penetrating "bunker-busting" Tallboy (the kind that was used to sink Tirpitz), but that's not the 12,000lb bomb in this video. The one in the video is the 12000lb HC, which blows up on impact and has a much larger explosive yield.
you'd need Tallboy or Grand Slam instead............with a quick fuse, but very hard to hit a ship at 30 knots, but a near miss will still sink it...... you'd need to release the bomb maybe 3 hull lengths ahead of the ship
A non-armor piercing 6 ton bomb like that would destroy all the anti-aircraft guns, boats, aircraft, much of the fire control but wouldn’t sink a capital ship. Try some Tallboys instead… sinking capital ships and bunker busting is what they were for!
使用している爆弾は"ブロックバスター"または"クッキー"と呼ばれるイギリス製の12000ポンド通常爆弾です（ゲーム内名称12000 lb H.C Mk.I）
爆薬量は同等ですが貫通爆弾のトールボーイとはまた別物です。
The cookie bomb is the 4000lb one mate
@@mrmcmoustache9615 .
Plml
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てっきりトールボーイでいじめているのかと思いました(笑)😱
やっぱどこの船も耐えられないね
4000lb bomb was the blockbuster, or cookie. 12000lb was the Tallboy. 22000lb was the Grand Slam.
取り敢えずこのブロックバスターに狙われたら即逃げるのが良手。
大和とかって、建造だけで凄まじい額が使われたんだよね？
こんなのが有るって分かったら、そら動けないワナw
ブリカスって、日本と違ってスマートなんだよね。
日本だと回天や桜花でしょ？
高高度水平爆撃で1発だけ。実際には当たらんよね。
@@taka-xs4yl なんか関係ない話してて草
荒らしか
@@川那部裕-m8fどこの話してんだ?
@@scpfoundationo5councilo5-12映像内の爆弾の投下の仕方の話やろ
確かにあの落とし方だったらGPS誘導ない限りほぼ当たらない
熾烈な対空砲火が無駄な足掻きって感じで嬉しくなる
普通当たらないからなあ
The pilots in the pacific during ww2 would disagree. AA fire eas very effective.
対空砲火は効果があったのか、無かったのか、どちらが正なのか…？！
例えばレーダーと組み合わせた統制機構やVT信管があれば効果的だったのかもしれない…
@@80fire71対空放火自体は結構効果あるだろ
少なくとも艦隊組んでたら確実に効果ある
運が良ければ爆弾に当たるかもしれないので…
船体構造は持ち堪えても、乗員は衝撃で即死だろうなあ。
気絶やぞ
@@ManiaKanipan あんだけ船体が跳ねてる中で、もし生きてたら奇跡だわ！
@@88番大窪寺惑星ですので
@@88番大窪寺人の死なないゲームです
そしたら鹵獲出来る…？
さすがブロックバスター…惑星ならこの程度で済むが実際は竜骨へし折れて戦/艦が宙を舞うレベルよなぁ…
I really find it funny how some people in this comment section are talking about how unrealistic it is that they are not moving ships and the flak is too low. Guys, this video was meant to demonstrate the power of the 12,000 lb bomb against ships. This wasn’t meant to simulate a battle.
米軍のBｰ2がゴジラにバンカーバスター投下してるシーンみたいで好き
The "Cookie" was a thin walled blast bomb used to flatten large areas of buildings. The Earthquake bombs of 12000lbs were used to sink the Tirpitz, the 22.000lb used to topple the Bielefeld viaduct. These were supersonic, deep penetration bombs, which would have easily destroyed a capital ship.
The 12000lb version was called Tallboy. The 22000lb bomb was called Grand Slam.
@@ScienceChap The Tallboy turned the Tirpitz into Swiss Cheese.
If you could hit it. Tirpitz was stationary. I don't see how you hit a moving ship with a free-fall unguided bomb from 20,000 feet.
You can see the craters left after the attack on Tirpitz to this day. Google earth: 69.64748692138386, 18.80204208524721
Agree. Especially from a level bomber. But I do think if you got within 75-100 feet of it you would do some serious damage just from the pressure wave hitting the side of the ship.@@PxThucydides
Interesting thing about all of those direct hits from a high altitude bunker buster is that none of the ships was split in half or capsized. With this much speed and payload, a 6 ton bomb would punch through at least 3 decks if not more and discharge near the keel which would split the ship in half. Another scenario would be igniting main magazines and resulting splitting the hull. Somehow this simulation is very formulated...
This bomb can't, because it isn't a Tallboy, it's just a standard Bomber Command 12000-lb high capacity "Blockbuster". These were designed to maximize blast, and were used to blow the roofs off of buildings, allowing 2-lb. incendiary sticks to penetrate deep into the interior, burning out the building.
But it isn't an armor piercing bomb.
War Thunder doesnt support all those fancy animations and mechanics on large ships, also it doesnt need to be an AP bomb to turn a ship into a million pieces
I just wonder why the captain did not take evasive actions. As the bomber is known on its bomb run, evasive actions would at least minimize a direct hit.
@@aurorathearcticwolf4243 If it is an armored ship, like a battleship, it pretty much does. A light case bomb, like a 12,000-lb blockbuster, is impact fuzed, so it goes off on contact with the first solid thing it encounters--like the superstructure of a ship, or its upper deck. The explosion creates a blast wave and minimal fragmentation, which will rip up deckhouses, masts, exposed gun mounts, and so on. The shock effect might be transmitted through the hull, and dismount machinery and fixtures below deck; it can also start fires. But the ship's horizontal (deck) armor will protect its vitals--the machinery compartments, the magazines, and the turrets. Usually, horizontal armor schemes consist of two decks: a main deck, intended to stop the projectile from penetrating; and a thinner splinter deck, intended to catch any fragments, should the projectile actually penetrate the main deck. Sometimes the thinner deck is placed above the main deck, to initiate the fuze of an armor piercing projectile, which will then explode before penetrating the main armored deck. But, either way, unless the projectile penetrates the vitals, damage to the ship will be structurally superficial, but may result in a mission kill by disabling the fire control sensors.
The Lancaster's gonna have to do some explaining why it destroyed a Hood lol
"The Hood shoots at us first." - The Lancaster Crews
フッドが吹っ飛んだ
同士討ち〜！
99.9点
ふ、そう
ドイツ海軍「おっそうだな」
山田く〜ん、座布団一枚！
実際なら12000ポンド爆弾の直撃を受けたら、戦艦といえども船体が真っ二つに轟沈するのでは？
大和型でも至近弾で艦橋や高角砲など上部構造物が破壊されて、沈没は免れても幹部全滅で実質的に沈没と変わらないと思う。
これは同じ重さのトールボーイ貫通爆弾じゃないからね
外殻ペラペラ炸薬マシマシのブロックバスター爆弾だから
それでも、弾薬庫が爆発すれば船体切断の可能性は高いけれども、惑星はそこまでシミュレーションしていないですので
各艦の火力の違いも面白かったです
扶桑だけ露骨に弾幕薄いのは悲しい😭
改修が間に合わなかったからな。
三式弾があるじゃないか･････アレ扶桑級で使えたっけ？
@@shinpeikitajima7115 使えるよ。
史実なら巡洋艦クラスまでは有る。
日本海軍って大口径機関砲がないからね…
射程が短い25㎜機関砲と時限信管の127㎜砲じゃ高高度はきつい
はっきり言って各国の戦艦より装備、技術、質とともに全て劣るので、その結果が大和のような巨大化で解決しようとしたのです。
合理的ではあったのです。
マイティ・フッドが至近弾で一撃とは……！本当に凄まじい火力ですね
フッドの上甲板の装甲は大した事無いからな。
@@浅井優也
直撃してないから上甲板はあんまり関係ないと思うが
76mmだったかな。@@浅井優也
Problem: It is VERY DIFFICULT to hit a precise target (especially if it is maneuvering) without a guidance system for the bomb.That goes double from high altitude.
Without a guidance system, forget it. The Tirpitz was anchored and not moving and it took several missions to sink it, until getting a direct hit on a non moving target
@@dkneuer When attacks were made at "point targets" in WW2, the hit rate was somewhere about 1%. Hitting a city was easier.
...especially when the ship is doing the zigzag maneuver, it is more difficult to hit the targeted ship, even in dive bombing.
Most ships were damaged intentionally out at sea to get them to port if the submarines or other nearby ships couldn't finish them off. Port Strike was the primary way to get a ship written off. Level bombers created havoc for ships at most. Torpedo Bombers and Dive Bombers were the way to hit ships out at sea.
No kidding, I would say IMPOSSIBLE. Plus, those ships in the video aren't even moving (sitting ducks). So it becomes yet more difficult if they are taking evasive action. But fun to watch
新世界よりが流れる中のフッドの猛烈な対空砲火の絶望に抗う感がかっこよすぎるす
7分でわかる航空主兵論
やっぱ上から重い物落とすのが一番つええや
戦艦くらいなら確一なのはたまらんなぁ…
しかしやはりアメリカは対空ガチ勢、弾幕も炸薬も全てパワー
扶桑の艦側の砲も、けっこう仰角取れるんですね。
The main problem is that Midway and Guadalcanal proved very decisively that high-level bombing didn't work. If you wanted to use land based bombers it was found B-25 or like type medium bomber flying at mast height and skipping bombs across the water was the only way to hit shipping. Had the target been moving there's next to no way you could have hit it at a safe altitude
Yes, that is true. However, if a 12,000 pound bomb just does a near miss, it will buckle the hull and may even have an effect on the keel. Though I think even getting a near miss from high altitude would be a stroke of luck.
厚さ5メートルのコンクリを貫通する爆弾の直撃に耐えられる船は無いだろう
この12000ポンド爆弾は、地震爆弾であるトールボーイではなくて、炸薬量重視のブロックバスターの方です
炸薬量重視の為に外殻はペラペラで、コンクリートを貫通するような強度は有りません
ウォーサンダーその爆弾だと普通に耐えられそう
長門やったら ワンちゃん@asika226
宇宙戦艦ヤマトは
少なくとも波動防壁ありだったらさすがに耐えるかな〜
やはり英国面....！英国面は全てを解決する....！
一体何杯の紅茶をキメたらこんな爆弾思いつくんだ？
@@panzerkampfwagenvitigerii9942 孫の世代までキメれば思いつくんじゃないか？
魔改装後のネバダがカッコよくてホント好き
メリーランドやウェストバージニアやペンシルベニアもマストが変な形してたり見た目はあまり好きじゃなかったけど太平洋戦争中に魔改造されて見た目がかっこよくなりましたね
ドボルザーク聴くと思い出す。
「よーし、全艦総力戦用～意！ 総司令部、及び 第13艦隊に連絡、
我、敵と遭遇せり、とな！」
懐かしいですね。
銀英伝で「直撃、来ます！」のあとの戦艦のごとく一撃で……BGM的にも銀英伝っぽさが。
So cool!!! The music was fantastic!
War Thunder I have played since 2014...Thank you
フッドの爆沈は芸術的ですらあるな
さすがビスマルク級を吹っ飛ばしただけの威力だぁ
｢ティルピッツ｣の攻撃に使用されたのは｢トールボーイ｣の方で、｢クッキー｣ではないです。炸薬量は同じくらいだけど。ちなみに1発では沈まなくて、追加で3発お見舞いしてようやく大破・転覆したとのこと。
また、ポケット戦艦｢リュッツォ｣の攻撃にも使用され、1発で着底させたものの砲塔が1基残り、迫り来るソ連軍との間で｢戦艦VS戦車｣という前代未聞の戦いを繰り広げた。
なお、｢リュッツォ｣を攻撃した時に1発だけ不発になり、3、4年前に発見されてポーランド軍が爆破処理しました。
Lutzow (aka Deutschlsnd).
英国空軍機が英国海軍軍艦を攻撃すると言うシュールな画と、至近弾で吹っ飛ぶその威力に脱帽
Hitting a fast battleship from medium altitude is nearly impossible as a ship at 27kt+ can maneuver just enough in the 30 sec a free fall bomb dropped from 15k ft. However, a large bomb, mostly explosive, no armor piercing case, all weight in charge, should hit water near, set to detonate say about 100 ft should cause enough turbulence to damage the propeller shaft, forcing reduced speed to the point that it can be hit
“12,000”ポンドの火の玉を喰らいやがれ！
菊池発狂案件
そんなに僕たちのちかｒうわあああああああああああああああああああああ
Imagine if the USS Nevada survived like in reality
The Iowa class battleships could reach 34 knots and wound engage in evasive maneuvers. It’s one thing to drop a bomb from a Lancaster on a moored ship and quite another on one weaving around at flank speed.
Likelihood of hitting a moving, maneuvering ship from that kind of altitude with a single bomb approaches that of hitting the lotto successfully 3 times in a row, IMO.
@@tjh44961 More chance with a Fritz X - those really did steer their way onto manoevering targets!
@@simonbarber5440 I think if the war had carried on for longer than it did, eventually even the 22,000lbs earthquakers would have been equipped with some form of controlled guidance, either radio or even tv cameras. A lot of the 'modern' ordnance was well under development by the end of WW2. Only strange thing is why is a British bomber dropping a bloody big bomb on a British warship!😃
この質量の暴力に耐えられる水平防御を持つ戦艦なんていない説
大和ならワンチャン…
無理かなぁ…
@@fubuki1115
大和くんは雛壇型を改善してもろうて
260mmあるからね。。。@@fubuki1115
Ship: Bomb drop? I got this.
Bomber: We'll see about that. Bomb's away.
*boom*
Bomber: Your vote just got overruled.
imagine telling an officer in the 1940's that eighty years in the future we use complex, photorealistic computer simulations of the most powerful contemporary ships in the world being destroyed by precision bombing for entertainment purposes
Blockbuster bombs were used in air raids against Germany in WW2, but they can also use to destroy mighty warships when it dropped from a four-engined Avro Lancaster bombers.
Yeah right. The captains of those battleships always drop anchor and sit still when there's an air attack. The Tirpitz was sitting at the dock in Norway when they got her with one of those.
この爆撃手、いい腕してやがるぜ。
当然無誘導だろうしなぁ。
フッドがフッドんだ！
byビスマルク
これより確か一回り小さいけどトールボーイ2，3発で沈まなかったティルピッツとは…。
Lesson to be learned, in war you stand still you die. If those ships were at full speed and manouvering, they would have avoided such an high altitude drop
This just shows how the battleship anti aircraft fire power never kept up with bomber development. Aim and shoot and hope for a hit...now there are rockets guided by tracking radars. No need for huge battleships anymore.
この動画に登場する12,000ポンド爆弾、なんだか500ポンド爆弾をそのまま大型化した感じ。
ランカスターが投下する12,000ポンド爆弾は、もっと細長いイメージがあったのだが…
良く言われる貫通爆弾のトールボーイとは別種の通常の12000ポンド爆弾ですね。正式名称は12000 lb HC, Mk 2でブロックバスター等とも呼ばれています
@@WT_Wolf
概要欄に『12000lb爆弾（バンカーバスター）』と記載があったので間違えてしまった。
バンカーバスターの仲間に入るランカスターが投下する12000ポンド爆弾は『トールボーイ』なもので。
当時、こんな着弾性能の高い爆弾は存在しないし、同じ炸薬量の弾を海上で使うのは勿体なすぎる
水平爆撃で百発百中は草なんだ
というか革命爆弾も究極紅茶爆弾もこのサイズだと普通にレーダーに写りそうな気もせんでもない
革命爆弾との差が顕著に出るのは海だったか
High altitude bombing against shipping was extremely inaccurate. Dive bombing and torpedo bombing was the way to go capital ships.
水平爆撃の命中率が100%だ！
事實上太重的炸彈會直接貫穿，只要沒傷到龍骨，而且沒有引爆，可能就是大破而已
12000ポンド 5448キロ
ちなみにバンカーバスターは地中貫通爆弾だから、動画のように船に当たっても爆発せず船体貫通し、水中で起爆するかどうかも怪しいね。。
ドゥイリオにきて、ついに着弾前に撃破なるかと期待してしまった私がばかでした（笑）
stationary target possible not a single flak burst from the 5 inch guns that could reach the bomber most ships would have turned away
I imagine that's what the HMS Hood looked like blowing up anyways
“Enemy battleship sunk!” (US)
“feindliches Schlachtschiff versenkt” (German)
“вражеский линкор затонул!” (Russian)
“We sank an enemy Battelship!” (British)
“敵戦艦沈没!” (Japanese)
“affondata la corazzata nemica!” (Italian)
Note: these were copied from google translate so might not be accurate, apologies if they aren’t!
自由落下する爆弾が、こんなに正確に着弾するのだろうか？
Interesting video - kudos for the choice of soundtrack!
大和も実装されたら標的にされるんやろうなぁ
(大和ならギリ耐えれる…？)
どんな船でも甲板はペラペラだから…
砲塔天板に直撃しても船体折れそう
@@Drizzle_Unitedや、大和型の砲塔装甲は46cm砲の至近射撃に耐えられるから…(目を逸らしながら)
@@babymagnam ユゴニオ弾性限界「それはどうかな」
無理やろな・・・耐えれて1000ポンドくらいか
3:09 英艦を英爆撃機から投下した英爆弾でkillは実に味わい深い。英国味がする。
さーんぷーんさんぷん♪
カップ麺動画恒例3分の歌
艦船のように動いている標的だと命中どころか至近着弾さえ難しいのでは。とはいえ、実戦例↓にあるような空中爆発だったら、少なくとも艦上の構造物には相当のダメージを与えて、戦闘不能に陥らせることができそう。以下、Wikipedia(en)より。
617 Squadron developed a technique of dropping a 1,000lb MC bomb just before a 12,000lb HC bomb; the shock wave from the 1,000lb explosion fired the pistols on the 12,000lb bomb to give an "air burst";
ほぼすべての戦艦が戦闘機に妨害されました 彼らは空母を出航した
セイロン沖海戦の赤城艦爆隊の投弾17発中命中16発(1機投弾不能)って、当時の特に第一航空戦隊員の技量が神技の域に達していたのだな。
Wierd to see a Lancaster bombing a RN ship.
In the real world, a 12,000-lb high capacity bomb would explode on contact with the battleship. The resulting blast, would cause extensive superstructure damage and kill or wound any personnel on deck. As the bomb was designed to maximize blast effect, it has no penetrative capability; it cannot be fitted with a delay time fuze, because the casing is very thin, and would break open if it hit anything solid (like a steel deck house. The bomb would, therefore, never penetrate the upper deck, let alone the armored deck, the conning tower or the main turret roof. Most of the ship's fire control positions--the forward and after director towers, and secondary range finders mounted in the turrets--would be disabled, which would render the ship combat ineffective, but the vitals would be intact, and the ship could sail back to base under its own power.
You confuse the 12,000-lb high case, with the Barnes Wallis Tallboy, which WAS a deep penetration bomb. This was used to destroy the German battleship Tirpitz; however, that ship was at anchor. The odds of hitting a moving vessel with any free fall bomb from an altitude of 20,000 feet are slim to nil. If, by some odd chance, you did hit it, the bomb would, most likely, pass through the ship and explode beneath the keel, causing serious, probably fatal, damage. A hit on a turret would likely result in a magazine explosion.
@@StuartKoehl Thanks for your comment. I understand about this. The concept of this video is actually about how 12000lb bombs work in WarThunder against battleships. If the battleship moves and avoids it, the content will be uninteresting, and the destructive power of the bomb cannot be verified. Also, the armor piercing mechanics are inadequate in the game at this stage, and thin-shelled conventional bombs are more powerful than they actually are.
@Stuart Koehl The Germans has success with the guided bomb "Fritz X" sinking the Italian Battleship "Roma", almost sinking HMS Warspite, the Italian Battleship "Italia", the US cruiser "USS Savannah", the RN cruiser "HMS Uganda" and possibly 2 US merchantnan. It weighed approx 1600 kg.
@@cliveburt2638 It also almost sank the light cruiser USS Savannah, with a direct hit on the roof of B Turret. The bomb, fortunately, blew out the bottom of the ship, flooding the magazine before it could explode.
Fritz-X was built around a 1000-kg (2205-lb.) armor piercing bomb. Released from an altitude of 20,000 feet (which put it above most shipboard anti-aircraft fire), it could achieve transsonic velocity at impact. When it hit the Roma, the bomb penetrated through both protective decks and exploded in the engine room, starting a fire which transmitted to the forward main battery magazine, destroying the ship.
To destroy a heavily armored ship with a bomb required two things: a bomb of sufficient weight, and a high impact velocity. Dive bombers, releasing their bombs at 1500 feet, had the accuracy to hit a moving ship, but their bombs, generally weighing 500-1000 lbs., did not have the velocity to penetrate the protective decks of modern battleships (older ships were another story).
When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, their solution to destroying the battleships moored inboard on Battleship Row was to convert 1600-lb, 16-inch armor-piercing projectiles from the battleships Nagato and Mutsu into armor piercing bombs to be dropped from Nakajima B5N "Kate" carrier attack aircraft flying at 15,000 feet. That gave the projectile the velocity it needed to penetrate deck armor, and since the ships were stationary and moored close together, the probability of scoring a hit was high. One of these bombs hit the USS Arizona abreast B-turret and detonated her forward magazines, obliterating the forward part of the ship and sinking it almost instantly.
@@StuartKoehlThere was a 12000# blockbuster that was basically 3 4k blockbusters hooked together.
Be careful of the 12,000 lbs cylindrical “Cookie” bombs. Of course with only one bomb the aiming and timing must be perfect.
It also helps immensely if the target is not moving.........If it is, the chances of a hit are almost zero..........
Yes, in this portrayal the bomber is above the range of AA fire, and when land bombers tried to hit moving ships, they almost always missed.
None of the ships are moving, its very hard to hit a moving ship when a bomber is at high altitude
あんな高高度から無誘導爆弾を全弾命中させるとか凄すぎる
どうやって当ててるんだろう？
まともに直撃させられるなら不発でも重さとスピードだけで船真っ二つになりそう
Just a couple of questions why wasn't the Iowa, Bismarck and Yamato not part of this video and how come there were cruisers and Battlecruisers in it when it is a video about battleships?
Because they’re not in the game buddy
@@tucker1012 ahh that would explain it lol
水平爆撃でこんなに当たったらいいね
The bomb actually missed HMS Hood and exploded a short distance off the port side. The concussive effect would have caused severe shock damage and caused flooding in the engine rooms, but I doubt it would caused the ship to explode. It may not have even sunk from the near miss if DC efforts were successful.
12,000lb was Tallboy. 5k lb was a Cookie, 20k lb was a Grand Slam. Tirpitz got hit/near missed by multiple Tallboys.
Cookies were very different from Tallboys, the former were 5,000lb incendiary bombs, the latter were 12,000lb Deep Penetration bombs. Very, very different.
Cookie was 4000lb. Grand Slam was 22000lb.
Not sure why this seems to be so confusing for people. You can have bombs of the same weights, with different purposes. The most well known 12000lb bomb is the deep-penetrating "bunker-busting" Tallboy (the kind that was used to sink Tirpitz), but that's not the 12,000lb bomb in this video. The one in the video is the 12000lb HC, which blows up on impact and has a much larger explosive yield.
Ship #3 never existed....but this is War Thunder and its Russian so.....we make it canon.
この爆弾だと、大和型もひとたまりもないな。
スゴク…大きいです。
フッドが一発でふっどんだ・・・
今の船に原爆が落ちたらどうなるんだろ
原子力空母でも沈みそうですねw
現代の空母であっても致命傷出せそう( ﾟεﾟ；)
今の空母は民間商船より装甲薄いから、ここまでやられたらどうなることか…
@@apple-uy6iv 正しい情報か不明でうろ覚えの知識なんですが空母って沈みにくい構造になってると聞いたことがありまして、それが本当だったとしてもこの破壊力なら致命的一撃になりそうやなって思いまして( ・ω・)
@@Big_karaage010水密区画やダメコンで耐えたとしても、赤城みたいに弾薬誘爆で吹っ飛びそう(KONAMI感)
@@babymagnam 確かに可燃物、爆発物満載ですもんね( ﾟAﾟ )
Hood was not a direct hit, missed to the port bow
あぁあ戦艦大和は出ないんだ
大変美しいですね。
さすが紅茶爆弾...紅茶をキメてるだけあるぜ
"That one bounced!:
12,000ポンドって５トン超えでしょ？こんなの耐えられるの昔の架空戦記に出てきた不沈戦艦紀伊くらいなもんでしょ。あれは弾種忘れたけど80cm砲に耐えた設定がある。
80cm砲といえど、榴弾の炸薬量は700kg程度
これで誘導版化されたら、無敵ですね。
あまり関係ないケド、子供の頃、プラモで作った軍艦や、ガミラス艦などを花火や爆竹で痛めつけて遊んだのを思い出した。嗚呼リアリティ！。
Ships aren't even trying to evade. And the flack isn't going high enough. 😮
Because the bomber was flying at an altitude that's is out of the ship's antiaircraft firing range.
対空防火がキレイすぎて泣く😂
They see a bomber which can carry a large payload, but no evasive maneuvering?
see, this is what happens when you eat to many cookies. you just might blow up like this! [LOL]
爆弾投下後にも対空で狙っているのは、爆弾本体ではなく爆撃機？
かもね
@@T-my3sc
情報量ゼロォォォォ！
@@X-Hirot さん
たしかに爆撃機狙ってる
you'd need Tallboy or Grand Slam instead............with a quick fuse, but very hard to hit a ship at 30 knots, but a near miss will still sink it...... you'd need to release the bomb maybe 3 hull lengths ahead of the ship
HMS HOOD をイギリスの爆撃機が攻撃するとは、内戦か😮
12.000ポンドの火の玉を食いやがれ！
戦艦にこの音楽、銀英伝思いつくw
A non-armor piercing 6 ton bomb like that would destroy all the anti-aircraft guns, boats, aircraft, much of the fire control but wouldn’t sink a capital ship. Try some Tallboys instead… sinking capital ships and bunker busting is what they were for!
KA-BOOM! i think we are going to need a new boat.
巡航ミサイル並の命中率🎯で草
これ耐えれる船居るの…？
ヒント:北の孤独な女王(まだ本実装はしてないけど)
耐えれる(戦闘可能とは言っていない)
@@まる-s3o
あちらの方の12000ポンド爆弾は、貫通爆弾であるトールボーイの方で、この動画の12000ポンドブロックバスターを喰らった戦艦は史実では居ないはず
大和でも無理だと思うんだよなぁ