$34.99 Damascus Bowie Knife (Is It Worth It?)
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- We bought a $34.99 amazon "Poshland REG 599 Custom Handmade Damascus Steel Bowie Knife- Stunning Colored Handle". We had a lot of fun seeing if this knife was sharp, if we could get it sharp, we saw if the damascus was real or face damascus, we saw the inside of the handle when we broke it with a hammer. What's inside of this knife is shocking! I hope you enjoy this video as much as we did making it! Check out this knife for yourself, not a sponsor: amzn.to/3Z3uAeP
Edit: This knife was $34.99. It looks like they recently raised the price of this bowie. Haha!
I (Josh) got inspiration to make this video by watching @OUTDOORS55 hilarious video where he bought a $24.99 Damascus Knife From Ebay. Check it out. • I bought a $24.99 Dama...
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“The world needs more makers.” ~ RoyerX
Being from a family of creatives whose motto was to produce not to consume was etched into Kyle from a very early age and being educated at home gave him many opportunities to work hard at his own creative pursuits.
At eighteen, Kyle graduated high school and two weeks later received his Journeyman Smith Stamp and a rare double win of the George Peck Award and Bill Moran Award, “the 18-year-old prodigy”, “the blazing bladesmith” was what BLADE Magazine labeled him. Following that victory in November, 2009 BLADE Magazine ran a special five page spread “That Young and That Good”, the article went on to say “His ability to masterfully execute new designs, processes and artistic damascus patterns is remarkable. In spite of his young age, his fit/finish and attention to detail is representative of some of todays most known and sought after makers.” He was one of two to achieve Mastersmith by the age of twenty. His knives and his skills are highly sought after worldwide.
In the early years, if you weren’t at a knife show or a hammer-in, learning from the masters, information was hard to find, there was no online content and only a few books and videos, so it was a lot of trial and error in the knife shop. Kyle is passionate to teach makers his more than fourteen years of experience.
“The mediocre teacher tells. The good teacher explains. The superior teacher demonstrates. The great teacher inspires.” We hope we can inspire you on your maker’s journey.
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Kyle and I had a lot of fun making this video! It's nice to change it up every once in awhile! :) Let me know what you thought of this fun little video. :D
Also, I (Josh) got inspiration to make this video by watching @OUTDOORS55 hilarious video where he bought a $24.99 Damascus Knife From Ebay. Check it out. ua-cam.com/video/UeeE9DyI52w/v-deo.html ~Josh Royer
dude from stone to knife sharpener?
I liked it, Josh! Well done. I look forward to you guys having more fun with different formats.
Cool change of pace. Had to like video with the intro being the handle being broke right away lol.
Hi Kyle I always wonted to do this because the question always comes up why is custom knifes so costly and the off the shelf knifes so cheep. Quality Quality Quality hand crafted is always the best as long as you have a quality maker Thanks again Ducky
Bat'Leth !
Kyle should buy one of these "knock off" knives and then make his own improved version of it. Then test them side by side.
Definitely. With side-by-side duck sounds, please.
That’s just unnecessary cruelty. Also we’d have to watch Kyle abuse one of his knifes, I couldn’t bare it.
Yesss! I was going to say the same thing! Show us how you would make this knife correctly Kyle :)
Matt Schmidgall when has he NOT shown you how knives should be made? I’ll forgive you if this is your first video, but you only have to go one video back to see how a Master Smith makes a knife. To ask for a comparison of a Royer knife made in a Master Smithery vs a knife made in an Indian or Pakistani knife shop/ livingroom/ kitchen/ dining room/ sleeping quarters is absurd. There is no comparison. Might as well say, “Hey Kyle can you make a knife and test it against an overripe banana!” 🤦♂️😂🤣
His knife would be 100 times the price. For most people it wouldn’t be worth it, especially if you’re going to be rough and abuse it. If you’re rich and want a show piece, that’s a different matter.
I was expecting some kind of agressive/condescending review, and I'm happy to see a honest and positive review. It's indeed an excellent base to modify for learners.
I'm actually impressed with what you can get for $35. You literally couldn't buy the raw materials to make that yourself for double the price. Hell, just the leather for the sheath is going to cost you $10. It's a good deal for someone that wants a blade and doesn't care about heirloom quality. Buying a nice USA produced knife like that from a reputable maker would be thousands of dollars.
With that said, there are way better performing knives out there for much less. A $15 Mora or cheap Schrade will give you more mileage and performance. Nice video man, love your work.
Agreed Iron
Good to have you here with us all
Team Royer
That's the wonder of cheap Chinese labor and materials lol
pakistan made
Your also can get other really good D2 or VG10 steel knives for a few dollars more. Also Chinese but really good quality. I have some Kubey folding knives with D2 steel and I'm impressed with the quality.
Here's an idea Kyle: how about making a knife of your own to fit that sheath? Now that there's an empty sheath lying around...
I bought one of their knives last year, before I even knew this channel existed. It's a longer karambit, with a full tang and a rosewood handle, properly pinned. It was the same price as this one, and I was fairly pleased with it, though I had some concerns.
For starters, I could easily tell it was real damascus. But someone hit it with a grinder in places to get at some uncomfortable edges that bit into the hand and wrist. I'm fairly certain this is the reason, as they missed a spot right next to where they ground off the pattern. I had to file it back some more myself, and I'll probably dismantle the whole thing and etch it again. The handle is beautiful and comfortable, though the scales doesn't quite lay flush on the tang, and I'll probably fix that myself too. It has six brass pins holding it together, but a couple look so ground down that I'd hardly call them riveted. And the sheath is clearly made of scrap leather glued together, though I'm actually quite fond of this. I hate wasted leather, and it still looks lovely, same style as this one.
I don't expect a shipped knife to be work ready, and don't mind putting in a little love. When the weather clears, I look forward to using my knife for wood carving. Overall, I always felt I got my money's worth, and I feel quite confident in that thanks to this video, so thank you very much!
We found it worth the money
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Dad
I always wondered what's inside these pretty knockoffs and how they can be made and marketed surprisingly cheap. I didn't have the heart to destroy one I tried out, despite its cheapo price, so you saved me 35+ bucks! However as you showed, for me sharpening this supposed 1095 blade was actually a very frustrating time wasting experience. Mine was probably haphazardly heat treated being "soft" in various spots. So now I use it to open coconuts and save my real knives.
They are cheap Pakistani Damast knifes and are as hard as frozen butter. Go figure.
These things can sometimes make a fun project. I was given a cheap damascus chef’s knife, a few years ago. I reground it, to make it thinner, and it ended up being a decent blade.
I got a pocket knife produced by Komwero. It has a VG10 steel core and ball bearings. If you pay just a little more (it cost 46 dollars) you can get some really nice stuff. The Chinese are really catching up just like the Japanese in the 70s with their products.
Good summary!
I used to make knives for a living in the uk. The Indian Damascus “ souvenir” grade knives do suck a lot of money and attention away from makers , but I think , like yourself they pose no threat to serious makers or buyers . I whole heartedly agree they are cool if you take them for what they are . Souvenirs from a sweatshop in India .
$35 though - Amazed you can get any kind of functional pattern welded steel knife for that to be fair - I bought some cheap damascus billets of similar origin to play with and can confirm their welds are not up to par, had to forge weld up a few delaminations - Great practise for when I get to the real deal though!
Great review, you gave credit where it was due and did not sugar coat the negatives. I don't know how they even sale the sheath for $35
Love your videos, educational for me as a knife maker and fun to watch. Thank you!!
Thanks Nicholas. I guess low cost of living. Lowest bidder works. 😆
The knife still has value.
Cheers.
Team Royer
I read that main reason other places can make things so cheap is that each time workers demand and gain another right, it costs more to make things. Over time US workers have gotten so many rights that it costs a fortune to employ them. Of course being a worker with no worker rights would be a miserable, dangerous, poverty-stricken life...
@@joejones9520 I guess it’s all relative to what you can buy for 35 dollars ha ha. If you can buy the same amount with that that I can for 100 in the states I guess it’s a wash
@@joejones9520 Cost of living is higher in most first world countries and differences in regulations can influence the cost of manufacturing a given item.
You actually made me want to buy this knife,and mod the handle. Way better value than I thought.
Good idea Benoit. Go for it my friend
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Dad
@@KyleRoyerKnives That was in jest. I am a traditionalist, with recognition of the value you offer through your perfectionist attitude towards your work. I follow other UA-camrs knife makers, but you stand at the top of the total dedication to workmanship pyramid. Simply put. your work comes first, UA-cam after. May you always find smooth sailing in your everlasting journey towards perfection.
@@BenoitMassicotte Old comment perhaps, but if you see this check out Freerk Wieringa - his work is excellent for the same reasons you mention here, but he is just beginning his journey into the craft so it is always wonderful to see what he does. No speaking, full length build videos, excellent content.
And Kyle, if you see this, beautiful work as always. I really appreciate seeing someone of your caliber posting your work here for us to enjoy. Love the humor and nerdiness you bring to the videos too ^___^
If they could sell it for that price and actually make a profit could you imagine the quality of the knife if they added $20 it could have real gold
It was probably made in a country where $300.00 per year is a good wage !
@@davedavis3873 classic price subsidised with human suffering
@@davedavis3873 Pakistan tends to make a lot of cheap damascus knives.
Legend has it, the ground up bones of a sweatshop worker is used as filler for the epoxy.
You gave that so much abuse, but gave it a hugely fair review.
I'd guess , even the Amazon seller would be happy.
Kyle roger? Reminds of that scene from captain america civil war, "are you Tony Stank?"
This proves to me. For the money this is actually a pretty nice knife. Thanks.
I was really surprised. Honestly if you just want something that looks pretty and is relatively cheap this isn’t half bad.
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Copy that BW
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I love at like 2:30 when the guy behind him was like ‘dammit Kyle’s back on his bullshit’
And they always market every type of knife as 'custom handmade damascus hunting.....'
Yeah, I love it when they call a karambit or dagger a “hunting” knife!
Can you please make a series, where you review low and medium budget knives like that? It would be very popular!
Thanks Chris
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For the price it is absolutely stunning. I would just use this thing for light work like cutting apples and fruits, and just keep it on display
Might as well pop the stitches on that sheath and see what the welt is made of. ;)
Awesome review. About time someone did a proper review on these knives. You are right though for 35 bucks for Damascus knife with a sheath pretty good deal.
Good deal
Good times indeed
Glad you’re enjoying the vids
Dad
Nice knife for $35. It's not something I'd trust my life to, but it's better than I'd have expected. I can sharpen a knife if it it'll hold an edge. The handle LOOKS nice.
The way it broke makes me wonder if that's not a layered steel with crappy metal for a core parlayed with a thin Damascus sheet and then forge welded.
I'd prefer a full tang knife, though.
I'm absolutely new to your channel (this is only the second video I've watched) and have subscribed. I was about to ask some hard questions on your evaluation (such as how much do you charge for your knives compared to $34.99). Most people don't bend their knives in a vice, chop a 2x4 in two then try to shave, or beat the handle with a hammer. I was also about to say why not re-grind the bevel then re-sharpen. Given all the shortcomings (sheath tab on wrong side, hollow handle, welded tang) it was only a $34.99 knife. Then you redeemed it all by saying that the test had been extreme and for $34.99 it was a pretty good knife. I liked that you gave credit for it being true Damascus. I look forward to watching your videos and really liked the Damascus blank you made for the symposium in Australia.
Is welding the tan on really so bad? I mean often knife makers leave the tang soft. I agree it should be the same steel, but it is hidden, and a weld is very strong.
take one and make it better. i know the tang isnt an easily fixable issue but this is Kyle Royer
So much info given and learned. When does price reflect quality without getting ripped off? Keep up the great work.
I've found a safe bet is two to three times the cost of the cheap stuff is a good place to start. For instance, if you find a $20 POS knife you like, look for something similar that costs $60. Thats usually where good quality for a fair price seems to start. Not always a guarantee though, sometimes real quality starts at 4-5 times the cheapest.
I hand make Damascus in a coke forge with a hammer and no press. My start price is £300 for a random pattern. I’d consider that to be cheap
This was awesome, I've bought a few folding knives like this for some friends, it's nice to know that they are real but you get what you pay for
Just the fact that it was actual Damascus makes it well worth $35. I was actually amazed at how decent it was at that price.
it looks pretty good. might make for a decent bit of decoration for a nook in the living room, or as a prop in the next D&D session...
I mean.... It's not terrible for being so cheap.....
Great video bro. I really enjoyed watching this. 👍👍
Doug Marcaida has left his mark on the blade community.
Stood up way better than I expected.
I've bought a few blades from that specific seller on Amazon actually, and they aren't bad for the price.
There are plastic toy blades that's more expensive than that blade. Very impressed for that price.
Similar knives with proper heat treatment and good handles sell at a local market for 3 to 4 hundred dollars so this looks surprisingly decent ( for the price)
A knife without good steel is like a Ferrari with a trash motor. Just doesn't do what it's supposed to do
I just bought a very similar knife from Stauer in Canada which imported it from Pakistan. Mine is not a Damascus blade, but better looking, and having paid about $90 for it I am not going to smash it which a hammer just to see what may be inside the handle. The sheath on my knife is exactly like the one you have shown, (not a little bit but exactly), so I am assuming you knife came from the same area. I am venturing that the blade is not true Damascus but a folded metal blade to give it the appearance of Damascus Nowhere can you purchase a true Damascus blade for that price.
But for $35 dollars, it would be a good beater for camping.
It’s worth the money my friend. Our blade is authentic damascus. Be safe and be careful Rumple. Good to have you hanging out with us all.
Dad
When felling trees with a knife. Instead having the whole handle in the hand, hold the knife at the rear of the handle (pommel) with just the thumb and the index fingers and kind of whip it you can just keep going for a long time then. Felled alot of trees with mora knives as a kid, 5 inch trees are no problem.
I bought one that was 60 bucks. Looked good at first but had slight surface rust after only 2 months. Never got it sharp to my liking. And felt cheap as hell. But it did look good to people who don't know knives.
I’ve got a couple of these and they’re fantastic for camping and slapping around lol decent choppers if you put an edge on them and yet again, for the price.. I’ve had wayyy worse!
This is what i've been wondering - do you sell YOUR knives? Cuz i don't see a website or anything, just the educational one.
Yes he does - they start at about $10,000 as far as I can tell...
Keep this series up and people will think you're a competative swimmer or a crossdresser
because.. you know.. the lack of leg hair...
*chuckles* don't knock the shovel :) on a boring day of planting trees when I was young my mate and I sharpened the sides of our shovels and cut down a tree. (sharpen the shovels normally to help cut through roots)
Hitting the wood with the shovel ☠️☠️☠️😂😂😂
And the man who made it got paid 50 cents
More than likely.
I just ordered one. Thanks to this video I might as well return mine already :)
Can't really go wrong with a $35 ornamental. Can also spend some time on it, clean it up and "finish" it. Would be a very functional DISPLAY piece - much better on display than as a knife. With that all said - for the money, not bad at all.
Copy copy
It’s worth the money
Like and share we appreciate it my friend
Dad
I enjoyed your video. You gave a fair assessment of the knife.
Remember these knives are wall hangers. Nobody's ever going to really use one to cut anything. And if they do it's a good knife for around the house and to show your buddies and to take in the woods never unsheathed.
I think that what was said at the start was a bit harsh, but towards the end, you were a little more impressed. Often, these types of knives are bought because damascus steel is simply pleasant to look at and less likely to be utilitarian.
All in all, your final assessment was fair, and you made many excellent points.
I've got a couple of damacus blades, and for as useful as they may be, they'll never see the outside world.
I'd be interested to see what more expensive knives are able to stand up to your testing process. A £150 knife made with Chinese steel might present some interesting results.
May The Forge Be With You!
Good review Kyle, would love to see more videos like this as there's alot bs knives claiming to be customs
I mean, as a fishing knife, this would be great.
I like heavier knives for fishing, so you can cut the fishes heads off if you want to cook them whole, or are doing up bait, but I also don't want to use an expensive knife, because they are inevitably going to get covered in salt water and sand.
So this would be perfect.
"I'm seing stuff I would never aprove of" says a man who makes $10.000 knives about a chinese $35 one.. ;)
Hey S. We said it was worth it’s price 👍🏻🔥☕️🗡😆😉🤙🏻😷
Dad
I think his knives are more like $10,000. $10.000 seems a bit low for his amazing quality.
Just another good reason for the entire world to boycott China and anything they make
theyre usually from Pakistan, I thought this one was but maybe I missed something.
@@KyleRoyerKnives how much do your knifes that are affordable cost? Same with your swords meaning like nothing fancy no gold inlay and the like something that the average person could afford after a little saving up
I know your work can get $5,000 plus easily
You wanna KEEELL someone in style on the cheap a couple times. This is a great knife. Nice show peace.
when chopping the wood, you need to use over asnd under swings. you are doing it wrong. doing all over swings, you arent taking chunks out, just creating more slivers...
There is a reason your knives are god like and 10 grand, but as you say $34...makes someone smile.
Ok I was going to have to dislike this but the ending is nice, for a $35 knife I think it went above and beyond. Ty for some thorough testing and what seems like honest opinions. I'll have to check out some more videos
Good to have you hanging out with us all my friend
Dad
“Kyle you shave your legs, are you a swimmer?”
“Nah, knife maker”
If you're wondering the difference between mass made and master made, the comment, "I couldn't even sharpen a knife for $35" says it all.
Rebuild it now as the "Million Dollar Knife"! It'd be cool to see it reforged.
Great video, but I wish you'd have opened up the sheath shown what it was made out of too..
Nice video, would love to know what other improvements you could have made to the blade other then sharpeing it.
If the steel actually was 1095 and 15n20 it could have been given a better heat treatment. The blade could have been reground to a thinner geometry.
It actually looked like it was still shaving hair off of your leg there Kyle even tho you could see that the scene was edited caught however you said that it was not shaving any longer.. I like your videos Kyle and I think you are truly master and perfectionist at ur craft but you should do stuff like that as it is undermines ur reputation in whatevet you say in the future
If the took some metal from the blade and added it to the tang then it might keep the materials costs down a bit? Good analysis, IMO.
Brother I got one of these and after a heavy polish it's not Damascus, I was so disappointed,
That's actually not bad for the price, for a display piece at least
Agreed my friend. It’s probably worth the money
Dad
A1 on the customer service representation
14:19 I'm mesmerized by the mechanical pencil. Would love to know what it is
@Adam B Thank you very much!
Good thing is that Kyle is much much better knife maker than knife breaker :)
This was pretty entertaining. You make some of the most beautiful stuff I've ever seen. Keep it up bro!
For that price its a not so bad knife and even if the tang is not good at all - if it breaks you can meke some smaller Damascus knife out of the huge blade :)
WOW! They did not just send the knife but a camera that was filming too? Nice ;)
Haha!
A bit creepy right? ;)
@@KyleRoyerKnives yeah 😃😂
I mean, i'm no expert, but if If I recall correctly, true damascus has been lost to the ages, and modern Damascus is usually just mixing two metals for a cool pattern, so while it looks better, the metal is weaker than your standard steel knifes a majority of the time. I do not personally know anytime where the mix of two metals in a Damascus style is actually stronger than a single metal.
Looks like one of those VKY knives from vky.com, they sell nothing but Damascus blades, real fancy looking, with mostly brown leather sheaths.
Well, what would you expect of a $35 knife? IMHO, not bad for the price. BTW I have not yet seen you divulge the price of one of your knives......Most of us likely cannot afford it, even though I love your workmanship.
7:30 Of course it doesn't shave anymore, you're out of hair to shave, LOL!
Henrik Yngvesson 😂
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Hi Kyle, thanks for the valueable knowledge.
Glad you’re here my friend 👍🏻☕️🔥⚔️
Dad
And people are still wondering, how can the rating on Amazon can be so high. 🤦
That Doug Marcaida impression got me in the mood for some keeeeeeal tests
Indeed my friend
Cheers from the Ozarks
I see tons of these knives and always wonder if they are worth a s###. I did buy one knife on Amazon and while it was sharp, it was also junk that got returned. If you ever find one that is actually good, I, for one, would love to know.
Kyle that’s pine pitch glue. Not epoxy.
I see you opted for the deluxe vice too with the special duck noises mine quacks just like yours 😊
how good is its quality to resist rust?
Sad thing is, is that that 2x4 probably cost more then that knife now.
Great video! Did you return it to Amazon afterwards they take back everything. Ha ha
Incredible démonstration on a real human ....it will kiiiiiiiiillllllllllllll XD
Could you take one of these $35 knives. Re heat treat it, grind it and make it into something other than an ornament?
Wow. I was sure it was going to be stamped Damascus
Me too, kinda impressed there. ~ Josh
Shocked that's real Damascus
@Kyleroyerknives, thank you for this video, i never knew how little i know about the Metal Works. so many things were shown and i never even thought to entertain any Questions, hats off to you. if you do go forged in fire let us know and please get your metal billet ready before you even go on the show.
The intro alone just made my day
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You can get that knife for $6 plus $6 shipping from Pakistan which is where it was made to begin with
For reference, how much would you charge for a knife that looked like this one, but was full quality?
You can contact us at royerknifeworks@live.com for availability and pricing
I want a really nice damascus dagger knife 8 inches blade in superb leather scabbard. Do zou make them for sale?
Great video, always enjoyable to watch your vids. Would have like to seen some harder swings at that 2x4 though. Handle may have broke in your hand sooner if you had.
Good observation Dark
The 2x4 test is a constant preformance test . You’re right harder hits could be terminal for the knife
Dad
The guy who made this blade probably cursing you out for breaking his blade apart 😂
Took a look into the shop of the knifemaker, where I by my flat rolled boehler n690, because he is selling industrial made damascus too....
For that price I don't even get the material...
Could you take that blade and harden it properly and then put amazing hardware/apps on it and it be worth something?
Serious question; is there any blade that would retain razor sharpness after chopping wood?
Absolutely. It’s required in our shop. It won’t go out if it can’t chop through a 2x4 with knots and still have a razor edge. Quality of steel, heat treat, and edge geometry is paramount every time. Great question my friend. Chao
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@@KyleRoyerKnives that's pretty awesome. Now I want one.