Parfums de Marly 'Haltane' VS Initio 'Oud For Greatness' | Perfumer Reviews
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Comparing Haltane with Oud For Greatness for similarities.
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Nice comparison. OFG and Haltane are both nuclear. Only the anosmic weirdos in the fragrance community would talk about these being watered down. Nonsense.
It’s very simple. Both have been bought by an American investor. Within weeks of purchasing they reformulated many scents to make more money, even though the reason they bought was because they were already doing well. In America we set out to conquer and colonize all things, including fragrances, it seems. Then we put profit above all other factors. This how we destroy everything we touch. A shame really.
Lmao relax liberal. Colonizing and conquering. 😂😂
Doubt it.
They explicitly said, that they won't change or touch anything. They see it as an investment and leave the brand to itself.
I also can't find anything about them reformulating anything.
You can't really say that for all things. Look at creed, when blackrock bought them out. The fragrance are now stronger with metal caps
@@adrielr5930😂😂
Creed is not stronger now. Projection is about the same for the bottles i buy SMW, Himalaya, VIW). Longevity is not a good though.
Thank you for doing what you do, I think you are brilliant and you have a singular style of presentation and perspective that makes you unique amongst all others in fragrance, keep it the good work!
Oud for greatness is underwhelming if you are hoping for oud 😂 I blind buy and was disappointed how fast the ouf disappear.
I smell lot much safran.
I cannot really smell it and it doesn’t perform that well. So imo it’s completely over hyped.
Favorite oud in my collection are Ombre Nomade & Oud maracujà. Unbelievable performance & sillage and last for hours and hours and hours!
Performances & dna of OFG are not even close.
But everything is subjective in perfumery…
Haltane > OFG
Thanks Aaron. When are the discovery sets coming back to America?
haltane is awesome, bought it a few weeks ago and have been wearing it most days, got a couple of compliments as well from friends and strangers. definitely one of my most favourite from the pdm house
How would you compare haltane to Layton exclusif if you had a chance to compare ?
@@DeltaScalper have both and actually sold a bottle of Layton off and got a 75ml of layton exclusif as it's a bit less of that menthol note i didn't like in the o.g Layton. Haltane is more my bag as it one i reach for a lot more in the colder months, it's definitely a lot more wearable than the Layton exclusif and gets tons more compliments as well (i guess women like sweeter gourmand fragrances than ones that smell a bit animalic lol) so overall i really like Layton exclusif but but struggle to find an occasion to wear it and i love Haltane, it's a fragrance i will have for life (providing they don't discontinue it)
@@g.d2450 I got bunch of samples from micro perfumes , really liked Layton exclusif and lelabo santal 33. Got a full bottle of santal 33 , next step is , is it going to be Layton exclusif , Haltane or initio side effect … had a sample of calise as well , so many people love it but I can’t stand it for some reason.
OFG is really weak now. I was so upset with my most recent bottle (2023 batch). I will not be purchasing Initio anymore.
I preferred haltane overall because of how much it changes and the naturals and even the more pronounced oud smell. But I also really do like the oud for greatness profile I think it's quite nice. I just found haltane to be eloquent like you said and just more interesting overall.
The Oud For Greatness I have is an absolute POWERHOUSE!!!
My most complimented fragrance out of 70.
Have u tried haltane?
@@rabalan_stem yes
I’m not buying parfums da marly anymore sadly , I am not paying good money on fragrances that are not performing like they used to , I have tried quite a few ATH fragrances and have not been let down by performance at a fair price so why can’t companies like Marly and Creed do it , greed!
I don't have problems with performance
You obviously haven’t tried Althair yet. An absolute beast. Stayed on my arm overnight
Try Layton Exclusif performance is gr8 with 3-4 sprays
That’s crazy. I get over 8 hours with all of my PDMs. So much that I have to wash them off
I can confirm that my older formulation of layton is stronger and better than newer formulations but parfums de marly overall has strong fragrances
Thank you very much for all the great content. I’m in the US and haven’t been able to get any ATH fragrances yet but I’m very excited to try them. If anyone knows where I can purchase a “discovery” box of ATH, I would appreciate you letting me know.
OFG been reformulated so bad it only lasts like 3hrs on skin if your lucky, This Initio brand is going pretty bad no more initio for me
I own initio OFG frag when just came out (first pach), it last 10h on cloth, its beautiful frag. I see the OFG as richer composition to tom ford oud wood, love to wear it dress up. I know that they use sintetic molecula for wood notes but it still smsells great.
Haltane is a absolute Masterpiece, and my favorite Oud fragrance currently.
Women prefer it over OFG as well, since it's sweeter and more mass pleasing, and also more wearable outside of Winter, furthermore it's a tad less heavy on the Oud and better balanced.
I absolutely love oud for Greatness and haltane. Oud for greatness is strong and still pumping. Pdm has not sold their business yet i hope they don't. Haltane and oud for greatness is still strong no problems my way
Great review mate and your nearly at 100k well done 👏
Shout out to you Mikey! Love your videos
Reformulated OFG. Had the same experience. My first batch smelt deep, strong and full...the newer batch smells empty compared to my original bottle.
Mine are the same no difference
I have a 2018 OFG and I’ve purchased more than 4 2ml samples of Haltane from an authorized retailer, OFG is so much stronger than Haltane every time. I’ve heard mentions of the PDM alcohol content changing around 2020-2021, are the new OFG just weaker? What’re your thoughts on this? Can the alcohol content increasing a few percentages really change something so much?
Unrelated, do you have any US stockists that will be getting your discovery set in? Went to buy it tonight from your site and the description says you don’t ship it internationally. Out of curiosity, why is that?
Oud for Greatness ... my biggest mystery so far! First time trying from the sample and it was beast! Then I tried from 3 different bottles. Performance wise ... very bad and one of them was 77% formulation. Didn't get performance like first time from any of 3 bottles. Just oily spot on skin and almost no projection.
My friend tested the bottles too so I'm not crazy. Same experience!
Finally some truth!! I knew I wasn’t crazy. There is no projection on the recent batches.
Tbh I've experienced this with almost all of my fragrances. Fragrances seem beastmode some days and timid on other days. La nuit de l'homme lasted 12 hours on me last week, BDC Parfum and Hacivat died within 3 hours. Wore la nuit again and it lasted about 5, while Havivat lasted a full day. Fragcomm is quick to shout "reformulation", but there are way more factors in play like skin chemistry, temperature, humidity, AND subjective perception
@@DuSeun It's a maceration issue. Everytime I buy a fragrance, I use it once then leave it for 1 month, then use it again. The difference is performance is palpable.
PDM Was 24% now 18% oil. huge disappointed as a fan.
I miss ATH’s “Dirty Jasmine”!
Similarities to Oud For Greatness.
But much more of a kick ass fragrance! Unbelievably long lasting..
I don't have any problems with longevity from oud for Greatness and haltane they are awesome
I just purchased Haltane. Amazing scent!!! Worth the 💵. If you’re debating the idea of getting it? Don’t hesitate.
I have never enjoyed oud for greatness but Haltane, my first sniff was orgasmic.
Watching fragrance reviews from a perfumer is so interesting 👏
I did a side by side comparison and they are very similar and this is what I don't understand. Coming from the same house, what is the purpose of creating something that is that similar? I don't get it.... anyway, thank you for the nice review Aaron 🙏
I have Haltane and love it. It lasts for 24 hours on my skin and in the dry down, it is still sweet and fantastic. OFG didn't quite hit it for me.
What batch you have. The last 24 hours.
Please review Akaster from PDM. and comparing that too MFK oud silk mood should be good. Always great videos too. 💯
I’ve had the same bottle of oud for greatness. It has gotten weaker to my nose, but I think it’s just that so many strong perfumes are out there now.
Dam right oud for Greatness is still the same
I smelled Haltane at Nordstrom recently and it was out of this world
the long missing bogdanoff brother has been found, awesome!
Aaron what is your personal preference between these two?
my bottle of OFG is by far the strongest fragrance I own, its so strong I usually end up washing it off in the shower before the fragrance evolves, leaving it feeling linear to me. Its just extremely strong and long lasting. Got my bottle in 2021.
Hell yeah mine is strong as well. Ath makes his shit so strong that is what he is used to. I can't enjoy a fragrance that is so strong feel me. I have no problems with the new batches
super fantastico
The Oud for Greatness I smelled is from a recent batch, and while it's an absolutely gorgeous scent, its lasting power and sillage wasn't anything to write home about. I don't think it's worth the price at all. Not even 60% of the price in my opinion. I'd just buy a good clone, honestly.
Haltane is the winner for me. 🙂
So I guess I just got my answer from the comment/ question I asked in the last video of PDM Haltane. I asked if the comparison video going to be with Initio Oud for Greatness? Lol here’s my answer lol
Broken record time... Ormonde Jayne, Oudh Flor, which is a Harrods exclusive.... Is the king of this scent signature type... Green, natural, oud, vertiver etc. Please Aaron, try to get some.
Lets goo almost 100k of subs! As always nice work Aaron!
Haltane isn't the only Oud in PDM. Leyton Exclusif, Pegasus Exclusif and Akaster all have Oud
Try Oud For Glory by Lataffa. Full on Clone of Oud For Greatness but a projection bomb. Belting for for £26....
Yeah! I like that videos ,,,VS,,,:) Can you do TF Oud Wood VS Versace Oud Noir ? I will be grateful.
Great review, but what's up with the background noise? Keep muting because I though there was a police car/ambulance/fire truck/air raid going on in or outside my apartment, lol
Haltanes too powdery on my, much prefer OFG, like the wear like the feel better.
I’ve had the same experience with Paragon. My sample was godly. I purchased a bottle a few months later and it’s so weak. The scent is the same but the lasting power is terrible compared to my sample.
tried both at my local retailer. I feel what he's saying with Oud for Greatness. It just didn't quite land for me. Didn't smell bad but certainly underwhelming for the hype it has. Haltane however I think will be the scent I stick with nearly a daily driver. Definitely different and I personally pick up the bergamot a lot it gives it a strong, punchy scent along with the oud but the praline smoothes it and ties it all together in a way that hits every note that my nose was searching for in a cologne.
I think there is oud in the pdm exclusif range. Layton exclusif
I cant stand oud for greatness, my biggest fragrance purchase regret. Sold it finally at a massive loss.
Julien Sprecher which is the owner of pdm,initio he did not sell his businesses he just went in partnership with America avent. So that is the truth. What I have learned Aaron when I first started collecting fragrance some were very strong to me but now I'm used to it so it ain't as strong anymore. Oud for greatness is a strong fragrance
For initio go for Oud For Greatness (Oud For Assness) .
For PDM go for Layton
Please do a review on Patek Maison Luminous Ghost! Literally no one has done it...would really love your thoughts thanks.
Dishing out quality content like this for free should be a crime!
Initio ans Pdm are twin houses so for the first time nothing strange they just used the formula,fact, it's just very sad
Haltane is nicer with the praline. Oud for greatness feels uninspired and flat.
Nice hair Aaron!
Remember first smelling it at Harrods. It felt so uninspiring.
I would like for him to do review on Arabian oud resala and tell me what he thinks about it. I like it
Dear Mr. Hughes, I really admire the way you explain fragrances. For that reason I need your help. I've been searching for a perfume that has a smooth black liquorice scent with a sweet undertone. I have tried a few with, Star Anise, Licorice, and but not fennel. MAUBOUSSIN POUR LUI was the closest. I thought Mugler would offer some but those aren't quite sweet enough nor have that distinct black liquorice vibe. What would you recommend? Would you need more details?
I like Haltane because sometimes Oud is a bit too much for people. Mass appealing frags rarely have oud and it's not wonder why. But Haltane makes it really wearable while preserving the oudy greatness
Uh oh! Don't the companies hate the connection? Lol 😅
Havent gotten my nose on Haltane but OFG is almost too much for me. Its so strong i find it unwearable. I found Liwa by Widian. Now thats my speed.
Lo que le entendi o trato de decir es que estas fragancias tiene en sua notas no declaradas maltol y ambroxan.
I have both. Both unopened too many to wear.
I like much more Oud For Greatness
Between the two oud for greatness is nicer imo. Haltane has this sort of varnish smell to it that I don’t vibe as well too and oud for greatness smells more of a oud/leather which I prefer.
"close cousins...at a bbq"
yeah, but every bbq has that one weird cousin/uncle...i wonder who that would be...xD
@@boroughmanager7067 hahaha
isn't pdm akaster their other oud or ???????????
I have both (OFG as a sample) they are different, but you would use them for the same occasions. So its kinda redundant to own both at the same time unless you are a collector. I enjoy Haltane more. But when my bottle is done, ill get Oud For Greatness. And when thats empty back to Haltane!
What year was OFG reformulated?
The Walter Mercado of fragrances
OFG is potent. One or two sprays and it lasts for hours.
He is talking like a beautiful painting.
I love the drunk cousin.
WHIPPING THROUGH THE BASE! LETS GO!!!!!!!!
The reason why new bottles aren't as strong at first is because most needs to sit out. Spray it a few times and then let the perfume do its thing. People say its maceration and it's some compounds evaporating or oxidizing. I'm not sure what it is, but I am sure that the juice gets better with time.
It's a maceration issue. Everytime I buy a fragrance, I use it once then leave it for 1 month, then use it again. The difference is performance is palpable
Yesss.Initio content. Please review absolute aphrodisiac or psychedelice love!
Prefer Haltane by a good deal.
I just bought oud for greatness based on old reviews and I am so disappointed.
This is not a beast anymore at least not the one I got 😕
The scent is nice but no beast vibes..
Did it get better after maceration?
The BBQ analogy was great… more of that
YESSS! Help me make my decision, Aaron!
OFG is water down so do PDM😏
PDM Carlisle has no doubt been reformulated and I have a sneaking suspicion Layton Exclusif has also had a touch up.
On another note, I have heard BDK are owned by the same arm that owns PDM and Initio, anyone vouch for this?
Akaster is an oud rose
Great analysis and the comparing of thise two fragrances 😊 it really gave me a better understanding of the compositions of those two 👍
Haltane for the win
İnitio ofg 4 sure
you read my mind, thanks for doing this sir
was in doubt on which to buy, so thanks for this video
Let’s push this gentleman to 100.000 !!!
Haltane is much more sweet on my skin. On my friends skin it’s much more woody with that sweet oud. On my skin it smells like a WAY better version of invictus platinum(I might be crazy lmao but it’s smells like that on my skin)
Hello people ❤
Another excellent review !! Can’t wait to get a hold of your new fragrances in the US/Jamaica
Thanks Aaron
Yeah, for me, Oud for greatness has more of a fresh tone and Haltane has more of a sweet tone, but they are similar but different at the same time. Both well made.
I just got Forbidden! This Fragrance is Spectacular🔥! Opening smells like a sweet orange candy covered in chocolate, in that dry down is a Turkish Delight gourmand but has this masculine vibe, Perfection! This is how a fragrance should be made. This is the most unique scent I’ve have smelled. It’s Perfect 🔥🔥💯 I also have 2023 Maverick n Notorious and they are super powerhouse scents. Aaron Terence Hughes you are a Master Perfumer! 💯
I like ath fragrance but Maverick is to strong can't enjoy it so that is your opinion
@@jts4248 yeah bro that’s my opinion no denying that what so ever just like it’s your opinion that Maverick is to strong for you to enjoy.. that’s you opinion, nothing wrong with that just like there is nothing wrong with mine… 🤷🏻♂️
@jeffbrown7790 right on I didn't disagree with him I just said it is to strong for my liking
@jeffbrown7790 if it is too strong I don't like it can't enjoy it so that is me. I don't think this is how all fragrance should be made no
Great breakdown Aaron
Not sure how long it's gonna take for people to realize that Parfums De Marley is a Dupe house. Mostly clones of TF frags..
@boroughmanager7067 I take it that you own both Harod and Tobacco Vanille, and Tuscan Leather and Godolphin, and you can't justify the money you spent cuz they smell 90+% identical. Also if I remember correctly, Layton Exclusif and F*n Fabulous smell alike.
@boroughmanager7067 well I did say mostly TF. ATH just made a video about how Haltane and OFG smell alike. Charge it, another Dupe to the list!
Yep. I agree. Haltane is a tamer, more feminine, lighter, weaker scent.
Haltane is not PDM’s only oud. Have your tried Pegasus Exclusif or Layton Exclusif?
Love my OfG. OG formula is beast-mode. Thanks for another excellent review.
I've been testing OFG a year ago and (while I really liked it) I received only comments of how strong it is (I never overspray), but no compliments. I didn't smell nor test Haltane yet, nobody offers decants of it here where I live, but I hope to get it soon somewhere.