Starting a Home Studio?? You NEED this Mic!! (Shure SM7B)
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When I started writing songs, I didn't really have anyone to walk me through it. Everything I had to learn was through trial and error, try writing a song This Way, see if it works. In this video, I walked through the five things I wish I knew as a beginning song writer 10 years ago. Hopefully my experiences will help you overcome some of the struggles you're having right now as a songwriter.
great accurate review on this man its super mic for home
For real!
@@TheVelvetYearwith what audio interface to part for maximum budget but not to let down money invested in sm7?
I'm subscribing just because he didn't waste my time. To the point.
Yes but the price…
(750 for the mic the arm the wires the cloud lifter and the go xlr or whatever you want)
This stand was 30 bucks and the cloud lifter copy I got was 35 on Sweetwater
@@TheVelvetYear what cloudlifter copy do you have?
@@alessiobrevetto8123 klark technik cm1- ($35 on sweetwater)
If your interface/mixer can supply enough gain, you don’t need a Cloudlifter for it to sound good.
With the goxlr you dont need a cloudlifter, with a cheaper interface without preamps you need one
I have an sm7b and the earthworks icon pro. I chose the icon pro 95% of the time over the sm7b. No cloud lifter, much more detail, and rejects the room just as good.
But you can't flex with the icon like you can with the overhyped SM7b, you know?
Was your experience for streaming/podcasting? Or for music production like acoustic songs and vocals?
@@kaioking hey man! I should’ve clarified huh? In my use case I used it for voice over work. I did a few audiobooks and explainers with it. I would definitely reach for the icon over the sm7b for spoken word. But for music, I’d probably look at the ethos knowing what I now know about the sm7b. If you pair it with a preamp that can feed it enough gain, then I think it would be great. I unfortunately only have the Avalon 737 and that doesn’t even give it enough gain 🤦🏽♂️. My buddy uses it for music to reduce the room noise in his untreated space, and it works good for that, and with the country/rock he does, his vocals sit really good in the mix even before mixing the vocals.
This is exactly what I envisioned when searching for a mic and I randomly came across this video. Thank you!
You’re welcome!!
I’m buying this today 😅
I picked this up for my girlfriend who wants to get into voice over work. I’m sure she’d have purchased something less expensive, and I found more than a few that would probably do her just fine. However, I’m of the mindset purchase what you want the first time. So…. Hope she likes it!
wrong mic for that application
I think im gonna rent the SM7B and the RE20 and see how well each one works with my voice using a Rode Rodecaster Pro II and Duo and go with whichever sounds best to me. This mic is definitely a top choice for many.
Accurate Title: The Best Mic for Home Studios and Songwriters with money to spare
yeah but YT likes my title better haha (also if you don't like spending money, I recommend getting out of music as fast as possible)
@@TheVelvetYear that is so lame dude
@@jasper-ft3eiits fair
@@mortaldeity1922Yeah I’m really going to take advice from a failed musician who now makes UA-cam videos telling people to buy overpriced things with barely any quality difference.
Already have it for my streams
perfect
Mike with the mic
Would definitely buy if I had the money😢
thank you
Love my 7B for vocals. I use a Soyuz Launcher instead of Cloudlifter. Better.
Accurate my man . ✔✔
The SM58 is what I’d recommend, starting out. It’s too close in sound for comfort at a fraction of the cost. And even with the A55M mount and the A58WS windshield, the price is so far below the SM7B, that you can actually afford a decent audio interface, which will be useful later on, when you get higher up the food chain of microphones. And if you take into consideration, that the capsule of the SM7B is about 5cm / 2 inches away from the foam, you don’t have to get as close to the SM58 for the same proximity effect, which makes the microphone more comfortable to use, on top of it being much lighter than the chunky SM7B.
Big disagree. The SM58 has not a lot of bass, and is too sharp in the tops. I know that because i held it in hand on a real stage with a real PA system, and something like the SE V7 sounded way more neutral than the sm58. Altough, sound is subjective.
The Sm7b is a good mic, but here's what you can buy instead for the same price: SM58 mic+ Scarlett Focusrite 2i2 audio interface+ Audiotechnica Ath M50x headphones + Presonus Eris 3.5 Studio Monitors...plus or minus the studio monitors...Or you can get a Mackie, or Scarlett recording bundle for roughly the same price. The Sm7b is not a very, very expensive mic, but it's not that cheap to start with. It's not worth it
And it sounds like shit imo 😂
Thank you I am looking for a new microphone I have a sterling
I bought that one but it’s pretty low so I’m looking for a higher one
What about the ride NT1A ? Good mic starting out ?
Buy a Rode NT1 or Lewitt LCT 440 Pure
Yea sometimes i regret buying an u87 ai directly when my acoustic treatment wasnt that good... i did no music just improving my room for a while till i got good recordings.. i couldve just spend some outboard to make the sm7b Sound better instead.
I made that same mistake. Spent 3 years mixing tracks not dropping any thinking i sucked but even tho my room was slightly treated it wasnt enough i put my u87 back in its box put it away , humbled myself and bought an sm7b and immediately my music sounds great. Using a cloudlifter. & going into my neve 1073 pre . Sounds amazing
If your starting out: yeas it’s a nice mic, but as soon as you start recording higher quality vocals the sm 7b won’t be enough anymore. It doesn’t have a lot of highend which makes whisper vocals or highly dynamic vocals sound like shit. So if your starting out go for it, but as soon as your getting serious get a nice condenser from Neumann for example
was good enough for ed sheerans bad habits
@@TheVelvetYear yeah, but not good enough for "love yourself" from Justin Bieber, for this song they used the Sony c 800 g, which is a terrific mic
@@jonasfrenzel7314 billie eillish used an At2020 for Ocean eyes. The public has spoken, they don't really care that much aobut mic quality. Joji uses the behringer c1 USB thing, in "glimpse of us" you can hear them fading in and out the noise floor. people don't care.
@@TheVelvetYear Yeah, I know. The most important part of a song is definitely not the mic, but the performance. And that's what people really care about. Anyways our job as engineers is to make the signal sound as good as possible sonically, and if you have a good track a great mike can make it a lot better, even though lots of people won't notice. I am not a fan of saying the people don't care so use shit gear, I be like I want to be happy myself with the sound, because if I am I can be sure that others will also love it. Sometimes I use cheap mics as a stylistic effect, but I still love using high quality expensive gear, because it gets me the results I want without having to process a lot afterwards
Ed sheeran, michael jackson, the weeknd, logic etc!!!...stop fooling yourself
100%
I wanna record vocals & make professional music. I'm planning to buy this mic & also the Apollo Twin interface. Do i still require the cloudlifter? Or just the interface is enough?
you need it
What is that extention thing connected to boomarm called?
Any recommendations on a not too pricey interface that has enough power to handle the sm7b?
I’d just get any interface that has phantom power and then get the klark teknik booster ($35)
Is it a good choise for recording vocal and acoustic guitar at the same time but separate channel?
i prefer separate but both at the some time is a vibe. you really need to be on point as a musician tho if you're doing both at the same time (cause there's nothing to hide behind)
Some ACTUAL advice: If you're just starting out, you're perfectly fine spending $100 for a microphone instead. There are some inexpensive interfaces you can get that can provide enough gain in the preamps for any microphone you choose to use.
Recommendation: Elgato Wave DX + Elgato Wave XLR. Throw in a mic arm and the Stream Deck + (for the knob controls) and you're still spending around the same as just the Shure SM7B.
a problem you're gonna have with the "i'm gonna buy the cheapest version of what i need" is that you're gonna grow out of it almost immediately and need to upgrade sooner than if you had just saved up for a couple more months and bought the quality version in the first place. you're gonna struggle with noise floor issues and getting the brightness out of a vocal in the mixing phase only to realize it's because you cheaped out on your gear, and that you'll need to buy it plus whatever you spent on the cheaper setup (cause no one wants to buy a used $100 mic)
@@TheVelvetYear $100 isn't even the cheapest; you're kind of playing into the fallacy that $100 microphones = bad. The RODE Podmic is held up as one of the best budget microphones for content creators and it sits at $100. You pair it with a solid interface, like a GoXLR Mini or an Elgato Wave XLR, you're saving almost $150 when compared to the Shure SM7B and you can almost perfectly replicate the sound of an SM7B with a bit of hardware EQ on those two interfaces.
Whereas, if all you're looking to do is buy a Shure SM7B, you not only have to foot the $400 bill for it (unless it's on sale), but if you don't get the right interface you may end up paying an extra $100 just for an inline signal booster (Cloudlifter or Fethead, etc).
The thing is, the Shure SM7B is designed for studio work. It is still great as a stand-alone microphone when used for any application, but there are still decent microphones that you can buy that don't cost as much.
@@or10nsharkfin i actually own the rode podmic. eventually had to stop using it because its noise rejection wasn't anywhere near as good as the sm7b and i was constantly having to bending it over backwards with eq to make it sound good in a music setting. being good for "content creation" isn't the same as it being good for music. they're completely different use cases.
also if you're so adverse to spending $150 dollars, i don't think recording is the hobby for you, cause this is the cheapest it will ever be.
also, the TC Helicon just shut down their support for the GoXLR app (look at the most recent video from Eposvox) and the second you need to do anything like the ability to plug in more than one mic, record guitar, or use studio monitors, the Wave XLR stops being useful.
i would recommend using gear and running it through the races in a musical context before saying "that's no good, buy this instead".
What else do I need buy with this microphone? The DBX 286s has been recommend to me.
just any dynamic line booster will do. check out the klark teknick cl1
@@TheVelvetYear I'm an absolute beginner when it comes to this stuff and want record some professional sounding vocals. I've decided to buy the Shure because that's what Michael used to record Thriller. If it's good enough for him, it's good enough for me lol! Would the klark teknik cr1 be enough to get me professional sounding vocals? Thanks a lot for your help!
@@quicktingz2097 absolutely man! yeah i actually own the CM-1 from them, it was $35 on sweetwater and it works like a dream. Theres more expensive stuff out there but this thing gets the job done! let me know how it works out for you!
@@TheVelvetYear Ok that's great I'm going to go ahead and order both items. Do I need any additional equipment?
@@quicktingz2097 do you have mic cables?
I get it for streaming and gaming.. bro the sound is trash as hell😂
Yes, the mic is a great mic, but I recommend a cardioid mic over a dynamic mic because they reproduce sound best on axis and reject sound from behind, allowing the voice to be heard above other noise plus cardioid mics may lose nuances
Price
Is that needs phantom power?
no, but if you get a mic booster that will probably need one
@@TheVelvetYear do i need audio interface to use this?
This mic can reject but let me warn people.. ITS A HOT MIC. So unless you have the gear to back it, a good pre-amp, yeah.. dont go with this mic. Go with the earthworks brand for that much. Thank me later.
get a $40 klark teknik dynamic mic booster and turn the gain down. problem solved
@@TheVelvetYear Regardless, I used to believe the SM7B was the go to mic, It's far from it. EarthWorks Ethos stole my heart and several others from the talk of it if you look that one up. Shure just cant cut it no more, its only popular due to vlogs and crap at this point.
i'd encourage you to not be hyperbolic, since that's where a lot of newer people get confused. if you've found a mic that you like better that's totally fine, but saying "it can't cut it anymore" when by your own admission lots of people are still happy with it isn't helpful for people starting out. they'd look at your comment and think "i guess anything i record with an sm7b is unusable" which isn't the case. even million dollar studios with sony c800s ($50k) still have 1-2 sm7b's around cause they're great workhorses.@@FatherLamb
I'm broke
I definetly dont agree. The SM7b is overhyped.
It definetly is a great microphone, but no the best for its price. Wether a microphone is good for you or not comes all down to personal prefrence, and if the mic suits your voice. Sound is subjective.
Not a big fan. It has more treble then most dynamic microphones but still less than any condenser. Very low output and a bit noisy. It's also a matter of taste but I think, it's okay for a lot of applications but never the best. I don't understand the popularity, you get better and more versatile alternatives for the same price.
if you how low output/noise that means either you're not using a mic booster or your preamp quality isn't powerful enough (1) that treble is needed for good mixing but you struggle to get it with regular dynamics (2) since its a large diaphragm you don't have the issue with regular dynamic mics where if someone is more than an inch away the takes become unusable with the proximity effect (3) you aren't limited to recording in a well treated space like a condenser. no one's saying there aren't other good mics out there, but that's not the same as this being a bad choice. every studio that's tracking people regularly has at least one
Good for rap?
Very much so yes
Nothing helps rap except a mute button.
NEED? "You Need"? Nahhhh... No need to speak to my needs without know what the goals and targets of our studios are.
Pasa nahi hai
cmon dude, if anyone is a beginner you should get a SM57, $100 mic that is also a dynamic microphone just like the SM7B which also rejects sound from other directions.
please dont recommend people who start out a $300+ mic.
people: what mic do you recommend for home studios?
me: i recommend this one for these reasons.
people: OH SO YOURE SAYING NO ONE SHOULD BUY ANY OTHER MIC?!?
me:…………..
Michael Jackson Thriller Bruce Swedien
form in the description!
Or you can get a Shure sm57 for 99 dollars
the thing to keep in mind is the cheaper you go with mics the more work you're gonna have to put into it to get professional results. like you'll REALLY struggle to get anything out of the sm57 that isn't dull and boxy
@@TheVelvetYear they have both the same capsule. A anti pop filter and some EQ, same result. And even more in a mix, nobody's going to notice the difference. There's a lot of videos outhere on UA-cam. You can't tell the differences between sm57, and sm7b
@@JonadanandtheFreaks not the same sized diaphragm tho, which is why you see most people using it over the sm57
No one should take this video serious after reading him basically say a 57 is garbage and cheap lol. Literally the most used microphone on every song you’ve ever heard since your parents we born. The SM7 and SM7B are for followers, not leaders. You know for a fact if someone says the SM7 is some fantastic mic that is their main mic for recording music, they sipped the kool aid and spilt that shit all down their chin too. It’s a decent mic at best but not any better than 2 dozen other mics in the $100 range. Can’t believe we’ve come to a point in the world where ppl literally think their flexin by buying an SM7 mic to post in all their videos.
Nope
needs too much gain. sounds mid. just the basic option. not that great
Waaayy overpriced!! You can get a mic twice as good for half the price.
not if you want noise rejection
There are several dynamic mics that are way cheaper that reject noise just as well. Internet audio people always fall for whatever the prevailing opinion is.
if by "internet audio people" you also include every recording studio on the planet. there's lots of dynamic mics, but not as many large diaphragm ones that give you as much place with spacing. with the smaller ones, the second you're more than an inch away from it, all takes are unusable. i ran into that when i released two versions of a song (one live one studio vibe) @@dankeifer
Michael Jackson used an sm7. Not the same thing.
I don't consider a larger windscreen to be a substantial distinction