i also wouldn't be surprised to see varela getting the win over J Chen to be honest, the 3 5 minute rounds favour Andy and as they start to get slippery it will be harder for jozef to get anything going on andy, and with the pit walls i can see andy blasting double legs and potentially taking jozef down and winning, but depends how harsh they are with stalling calls on Andy. jozef definatley the more skilled grappler though.
@@JiuJitsuOracle-lz9yf I tried, I can't guess, too many great grapplers. You probably mentioned it, but if anyone besides the bros win the tournie they'll probably have to beat both Ruotolos back to back to do it.
I think he's relying too much on past matches and weight in his predictions. You have to factor in conditioning and people's ability to improve on top of finishing ability. The wrestlers can definitely upset some bigger names just by applying their pressure and aggression. They don't have to submit anyone. Smaller guys like William Tackett and Kenta also have a chance of going far because of their aggression and submission ability. Everyone is picking the Rotulos and Victor Hugo to win but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't.
Well this isn't wrestling though. Mika Galvao snatched Kenta's arm like 3 minutes into their match because this is BJJ and there're many variables to the equation. There are leg entries, swipes, flying armbars like Mika, or even any scramble mistakes that leave their limbs exposed.
I think Tackett has a decent shot at making the final. But for Jozef to get there, assuming he gets past Varela, he'd likely have to beat Hulk, then Tye and that's a big ask. But the fans voted him #4 seed, so plenty think he has a good chance. - Ross
Kade already beat his big brother for the trials and William is better than his lil bro. From what I have seen, Andrew is on the level of Chen, Varela, Kenta, etc. Hulk or Tye will be against Kade.
@@JiuJitsuOracle-lz9yf I think I discount the Hulk matchup because he's so big cutting to under 80 that I feel like there's a strong chance the cut hurts his physicality. As for Tye, Chen faced him recently and they basically nearly tied. With a million dollars on the line, I think the extra effort and aggression favors the finishers, and Chen is a submission hunter. But who knows, Tye is the favorite for a reason.
I don’t think hulk will do as good. I don’t think he could sub very many of these guys at this point.I don’t see him getting out of the first two rounds. But we will see.
It would be the biggest win of Kenta's career if he pulls it off so I think it makes sense to favour Hulk. I just saw Melqui Galvao picked Hulk to win it all. The stalling could affect him. But he could be experienced enough to stay on the right side of it. - Ross
Hulk's cardio for long matches usually sucks because he goes out so hard the whole time, but the five minute rounds and potentially the alley favor Hulk. He's my dark horse for this tournament. Based on some of the Flo footage they've released recently, he also looks to be one of the healthier ones in this bracket.
@@sd_mikey8004 Yes, he is super strong too with amazing wrestling & back takes. Problem is, if he makes 80kg, he won't be the usual Hulk. He will likely be tiny. No way he can make 80kg with only water cut. Otherwise, the day after, he will be exhausted from the weight cut. Tactic wise, he won't match the Ruotolo and Jiminez. Unfortunately for Jiminez, he has a kryptonite everyone will try to exploit before he gets to their back.
Could you expand on roberto vs tye? I think Kade is much more sporatic and almost spazzy compared to Tye which helped him get that win over roberto last adcc. I actually thought roberto should've been a top 4 seed over either jozef or nicky ryan especially given that last match he had with nicky rod.
I don't agree with the word choice related to Kade. He's amazing in transitions and most of the time gets one step ahead in a scramble and ends up in a dominant position. Roberto's a threat on his day, but I have plenty of grapplers in this division ahead of him. The likes of Hulk and Andrew have much better cases to be #4 seed than Roberto. As for the potential match with Tye, it's pretty simple why I'd pick Tye. I just think he's better everywhere. Roberto could well give him a good go, but I don't see an area where I'd favour him over Tye. Can you see one? - Ross
@@JiuJitsuOracle-lz9yf Yeah for sure I don't mean spaz in a bad way. Sorry I should've used explosive/pace-setting. You're totally right on that front -- poor word choice on my part. I think Roberto is potentially stronger on the feet and quite good at transitioning into leg attacks as of late. His match with Nicky Rod really left an impression on me considered the 20 lb weight discrepancy. I think Tye takes his time much more than Kade does which means that rounds with quick transitions could give Roberto room to work. That being said I heard secondhand that Tye typically bests Kade in the training room. All this is to say that I think this match could be much closer than a lot of fans are saying. Both athletes are extremely good at entering the legs from standing. Roberto probably has the size and athleticism advantage in pure standing exchanges. In a long time limit match I think Tye definitely takes it but the 3x5 format with the wall adds a lot more wiggle room for Roberto to just really send it. If Roberto goes for more submission attempts, there's a decent chance one of them could go through.
Also for context I'm a huge fan of pretty much all the athletes hence why I want roberto to get a bit more credit -- not discounting anyone else at all
Thanks for the in-depth analysis. I think there will be transitions and scrambles in Roberto v Tye (if we get that match). While Roberto is good in the scramble, the Ruotolos are exceptional. I think Roberto tends to look better against bigger wrestlers, where he can use his movement to cause them problems and he seems to handle any strength disadvantage very well. I'm also still not entirely convinced about his leglock defence, even although it has improved. No doubt though, Tye v Roberto would be an absolute banger of a match and I hope we get to see it. - Ross
Judging by the videos B-Team have been putting up Nicky's been grafting hard, so hopefully his gas tank is strong. But he has a tough first round match against Andrew Tackett, never mind who he could face in later rounds.
I am going with Jason Nolf for the upset win over Tye Ruotolo. He will take Tye out of his game. Physically control Tye & take his Wrestling & scrambles away from him. Physically Nolf is going to control & dominate Tye. I am a fan of Tye. But he is going to be controlled & overwhelmed.
@@marvelousbjj Nolf definitely could get a 6 figure income job as D1 Wrestling Coach. He is also in his PRIME. Will be interesting to see if he will even train BJJ/Grappling consistently? There is talk of a fully paid full time NCAA D1/World Level Wrestling, Grappling full Team forming. All they do is Train. Like an Olympic Training facility.. They will bring in some of the best BJJ Instructors in the world. The money being offered is a big reason this could happen. Pure International top Wrestlers from other countries are interested to enter. $$ They Absolutely need to Train Submissions. If the best Wrestlers in the World. Jump into Pro Grappling.. Train, They would dominate Submission Grappling.. Look at Nicky Rod. An average NJ HS tough Wrestler. A below average D3 College Wrestler. Came right in and out Wrestled high level Pro Grapplers? Won vs high level BJJ guys.
@@marvelousbjj Interesting is crazy slick Big Dynamic Takedowns, not Sprinting on your Glutes across the Mat. Also interesting & Dynamic is attacking aggressively from the Guard, Aggressive Submission attackers like the Ruotolo brothers. Attacking with proficiency from all positions!! No 40 yard dash butt scooting contest! 😂
It'll be interesting if the wrestlers do get together and train like you say. But submission grappling is a different sport. Much like one of the best wrestlers ever in MMA was GSP and he didn't have a credentialed wrestling background. It's a much wider discussion that we may get into on a future pod. We'll first see how the wrestlers get on this weekend. Thanks for getting involved in the chat. - Ross
lol might want to think about keeping your face off your videos. Hard to watch the whole video with your face involved. I’m ugly to so don’t feel bad. There are just some things you don’t get to do when you look like that!
Solid picks, very articulate breakdowns, can’t wait to see what happens🔥
Thanks for the comment and glad you enjoyed the breakdowns.
i also wouldn't be surprised to see varela getting the win over J Chen to be honest, the 3 5 minute rounds favour Andy and as they start to get slippery it will be harder for jozef to get anything going on andy, and with the pit walls i can see andy blasting double legs and potentially taking jozef down and winning, but depends how harsh they are with stalling calls on Andy. jozef definatley the more skilled grappler though.
Andy is very explosive and definitely a handful. But we had to go with Jozef given that he just beat Andy a few months ago.
- Ross
No matter what there are going to be some great matches.
What do you think will be match of the weekend?
@@JiuJitsuOracle-lz9yf I tried, I can't guess, too many great grapplers. You probably mentioned it, but if anyone besides the bros win the tournie they'll probably have to beat both Ruotolos back to back to do it.
I think he's relying too much on past matches and weight in his predictions. You have to factor in conditioning and people's ability to improve on top of finishing ability. The wrestlers can definitely upset some bigger names just by applying their pressure and aggression. They don't have to submit anyone. Smaller guys like William Tackett and Kenta also have a chance of going far because of their aggression and submission ability. Everyone is picking the Rotulos and Victor Hugo to win but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't.
Thanks for the comment. Who do you think will win?
Well this isn't wrestling though. Mika Galvao snatched Kenta's arm like 3 minutes into their match because this is BJJ and there're many variables to the equation. There are leg entries, swipes, flying armbars like Mika, or even any scramble mistakes that leave their limbs exposed.
@@JiuJitsuOracle-lz9yf If Tye and Victor don't win then I have The Takket Brothers taking it.
The Tacketts taking away $2 million would be amazing.
Chen vs Tackett in the final or Tye vs Tackett in the final.
I think Tackett has a decent shot at making the final. But for Jozef to get there, assuming he gets past Varela, he'd likely have to beat Hulk, then Tye and that's a big ask. But the fans voted him #4 seed, so plenty think he has a good chance.
- Ross
@@JiuJitsuOracle-lz9yf Didn't he beat Varela recently, he could definitely beat Hulk but Tye would be a big ask.
Yeah, I think Jozef beat Andy about 2 months ago now.
Kade already beat his big brother for the trials and William is better than his lil bro. From what I have seen, Andrew is on the level of Chen, Varela, Kenta, etc. Hulk or Tye will be against Kade.
@@JiuJitsuOracle-lz9yf I think I discount the Hulk matchup because he's so big cutting to under 80 that I feel like there's a strong chance the cut hurts his physicality. As for Tye, Chen faced him recently and they basically nearly tied. With a million dollars on the line, I think the extra effort and aggression favors the finishers, and Chen is a submission hunter. But who knows, Tye is the favorite for a reason.
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I don’t think hulk will do as good. I don’t think he could sub very many of these guys at this point.I don’t see him getting out of the first two rounds. But we will see.
Stalling calls are gonna crush him if he gets past Kenta which I don't think will happen
It would be the biggest win of Kenta's career if he pulls it off so I think it makes sense to favour Hulk. I just saw Melqui Galvao picked Hulk to win it all. The stalling could affect him. But he could be experienced enough to stay on the right side of it.
- Ross
Hulk's cardio for long matches usually sucks because he goes out so hard the whole time, but the five minute rounds and potentially the alley favor Hulk. He's my dark horse for this tournament. Based on some of the Flo footage they've released recently, he also looks to be one of the healthier ones in this bracket.
@@sd_mikey8004 Yes, he is super strong too with amazing wrestling & back takes. Problem is, if he makes 80kg, he won't be the usual Hulk. He will likely be tiny. No way he can make 80kg with only water cut. Otherwise, the day after, he will be exhausted from the weight cut. Tactic wise, he won't match the Ruotolo and Jiminez. Unfortunately for Jiminez, he has a kryptonite everyone will try to exploit before he gets to their back.
That's a good shout regarding the round structure and the setting of The Alley potentially playing into Hulk's favour.
- Ross
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Could you expand on roberto vs tye? I think Kade is much more sporatic and almost spazzy compared to Tye which helped him get that win over roberto last adcc. I actually thought roberto should've been a top 4 seed over either jozef or nicky ryan especially given that last match he had with nicky rod.
I don't agree with the word choice related to Kade. He's amazing in transitions and most of the time gets one step ahead in a scramble and ends up in a dominant position.
Roberto's a threat on his day, but I have plenty of grapplers in this division ahead of him. The likes of Hulk and Andrew have much better cases to be #4 seed than Roberto.
As for the potential match with Tye, it's pretty simple why I'd pick Tye. I just think he's better everywhere. Roberto could well give him a good go, but I don't see an area where I'd favour him over Tye. Can you see one?
- Ross
@@JiuJitsuOracle-lz9yf Yeah for sure I don't mean spaz in a bad way. Sorry I should've used explosive/pace-setting. You're totally right on that front -- poor word choice on my part.
I think Roberto is potentially stronger on the feet and quite good at transitioning into leg attacks as of late. His match with Nicky Rod really left an impression on me considered the 20 lb weight discrepancy. I think Tye takes his time much more than Kade does which means that rounds with quick transitions could give Roberto room to work. That being said I heard secondhand that Tye typically bests Kade in the training room.
All this is to say that I think this match could be much closer than a lot of fans are saying. Both athletes are extremely good at entering the legs from standing. Roberto probably has the size and athleticism advantage in pure standing exchanges. In a long time limit match I think Tye definitely takes it but the 3x5 format with the wall adds a lot more wiggle room for Roberto to just really send it. If Roberto goes for more submission attempts, there's a decent chance one of them could go through.
Also for context I'm a huge fan of pretty much all the athletes hence why I want roberto to get a bit more credit -- not discounting anyone else at all
Thanks for the in-depth analysis. I think there will be transitions and scrambles in Roberto v Tye (if we get that match). While Roberto is good in the scramble, the Ruotolos are exceptional.
I think Roberto tends to look better against bigger wrestlers, where he can use his movement to cause them problems and he seems to handle any strength disadvantage very well. I'm also still not entirely convinced about his leglock defence, even although it has improved.
No doubt though, Tye v Roberto would be an absolute banger of a match and I hope we get to see it.
- Ross
tye vs jozef and kade vs nicky with nicky going all the way
Interesting choices. Why do you think Nicky will win it all?
Nah nicky will gas out by the second day sadly
Judging by the videos B-Team have been putting up Nicky's been grafting hard, so hopefully his gas tank is strong. But he has a tough first round match against Andrew Tackett, never mind who he could face in later rounds.
Gorilla hands gonna get that win
It will be quite the story if Magid wins it all. Why are you backing him to come out on top?
I am going with Jason Nolf for the upset win over Tye Ruotolo.
He will take Tye out of his game.
Physically control Tye & take his Wrestling & scrambles away from him. Physically Nolf is going to control & dominate Tye. I am a fan of Tye. But he is going to be controlled & overwhelmed.
Bold. I don’t agree but I hope Nolf can make it interesting! Give him 2 years with a great coach and he will be world class.
@@marvelousbjj Nolf definitely could get a 6 figure income job as D1 Wrestling Coach. He is also in his PRIME. Will be interesting to see if he will even train BJJ/Grappling consistently? There is talk of a fully paid full time NCAA D1/World Level Wrestling, Grappling full Team forming. All they do is Train. Like an Olympic Training facility.. They will bring in some of the best BJJ Instructors in the world. The money being offered is a big reason this could happen. Pure International top Wrestlers from other countries are interested to enter. $$
They Absolutely need to Train Submissions. If the best Wrestlers in the World. Jump into Pro Grappling.. Train, They would dominate Submission Grappling.. Look at Nicky Rod.
An average NJ HS tough Wrestler. A below average D3 College Wrestler.
Came right in and out Wrestled high level Pro Grapplers? Won vs high level BJJ guys.
@@marvelousbjj Interesting is crazy slick Big Dynamic Takedowns, not Sprinting on your Glutes across the Mat.
Also interesting & Dynamic is attacking aggressively from the Guard, Aggressive Submission attackers like the Ruotolo brothers. Attacking with proficiency from all positions!!
No 40 yard dash butt scooting contest! 😂
It'll be interesting if the wrestlers do get together and train like you say. But submission grappling is a different sport. Much like one of the best wrestlers ever in MMA was GSP and he didn't have a credentialed wrestling background. It's a much wider discussion that we may get into on a future pod. We'll first see how the wrestlers get on this weekend. Thanks for getting involved in the chat.
- Ross
Bold indeed and some call if it plays out like that. Let's see this weekend.
lol might want to think about keeping your face off your videos. Hard to watch the whole video with your face involved. I’m ugly to so don’t feel bad. There are just some things you don’t get to do when you look like that!
You could always just listen to the audio on Spotify or Apple Podcasts…
@@JiuJitsuOracle-lz9yfy’all doing great, pay no attention to lamers
Thanks for the kids words.