Magnus Carlsen DISQUALIFIED From World Chess Championship
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The fact that the three greatest chess players of all time of Magnus, Fischer, and Kasparov all have had major problems with the FIDE/chess is a sign that there needs to be more change
And not only them, probably 80% of players have issues with FIDE, but are not brave enough to confront them.
Yeah definitely not a sign that ego makes people think they are above the rules...
@@gredaxdo u play chess?? Do u play FIDE tournaments?? No ryt
Then just stay 🤫. They were world champion.they know the game better than any of us.they know what's going on at the top level.
Rules are rules is fine. But stupid rules r not fine.needed to be removed.
Anyways FIDE is all a mess
eg look at the fide circuit,it's such a mess
@@Duskrider_18 Let's say I did, I would be happy that the rules are enforced on the very top of the ladder just as they are for me. The rule being stupid mean's it should be removed, not that only magnus is free to ignore it and the rest of us plebs have to follow it. He has the follow it like the rest of us and I'm glad about that big W to FIDE
FIDE is run by a Israeli Jew: Emil Sutovsky. He thinks Israeli's genocide in Gaza is reasonable. You can't reason with a person like this.
Michael Jordan was fined 5000 dollars for each game he wore his Jordan 1's, but he was never told he couldn't play. FIDE rules are stupid.
So should Magnus wear pajamas to world championship games and just pay the fine? Thats a slippery slope. Magnus wanted to make a statement and hes a buffoon and FIDE had to make theirs. Simple!
@@red37i59ur kinda right but fide is an absolute joke, so Magnus is pushing back.
Exactly, it's like these guys have never heard of a fine.
Was he?
@@red37i59 I don't get the oart where it's hampering a chess game? I mean of you wear pyjama then do you get an extra queen?
My boy Levy didn’t even change his shirt before filming this video, he couldn’t wait to spill the tea with all the drama that happened today
And this time he was right in the middle of it 😂
He got an interview with both parties.
Why would you film a video, come home and change shirts, and film another video? Pointless.
@@josephb4224one was for”take take take” this one is for Gotham Chess
He doesn't want to leave single piece of things to us. Imagine he changes shirt and forgets a thing.😂
Dude covered this TWICE😂 but the recap was obligated.
The problem is not about fairness in enforcing the rules.
The problem is that the rule in question is completely illogical to enforce in the first place.
Magnus was well-dressed.
As a spectator: Optically as a spectator you won't notice anything off about his attire. You probably won't even know the exact dress-code they were provided.
As a player: None of the players cared. No one lodged a complaint because no one cares. In fact, Ian mentioned in Take Take Take interview that there were like dozens of guys technically violating the dress code everyday down the playing hall. Doesn't seem like they were all penalized like Magnus was. Clearly no one ACTUALLY cares.
If the audience can't tell anything is off, and the players don't care, then why is this rule being enforced to the extent of not only a fine but round forfeit?
Why not enforce your rules when the outfit is outright inappropriate, rather than enforcing them blindly for a silly nitpick like this?
FIDE is being unreasonably stringent over a nitpick nobody cares about, and they have been pulling this on players every year, not just Magnus. It's just that the other players cannot do anything about it other than abide because they don't want to be kicked out after coming all the way to play.
FIDE likes to quote Magnus' "matter of principle" phrase out of context to make it sound like Magnus is just being uncooperative and privileged. But in the context of the nonsense FIDE pulls, it's good that Magnus is standing up against all of their nonsense and standing by his principles. FIDE is not doing anyone a favor, not the fans, not the players, with their stringent regulations.
Meanwhile, FIDE CEO has been trying to misdirect and shift the conversation to be about the 'fairness' of rule enforcement, to insinuate that they are right and just, while Magnus is being privileged.
They are trying to draw attention away from how their arbiter was just walking around looking for problems unrelated to the chess, where there were no problems to be had.
Calling out and fining people for a rule nobody cares about and that affects nobody.
Calling out and fining someone who was dressed presentably, just because TECHNICALLY he is wearing jeans.
Literally nobody cares about this. The arbiter was essentially just starting problems with players over things nobody cares about.
And then FIDE CEO comes and uses 'fairness' as a shield to shield the arbiter who was going around and using the rules to pointlessly and blindly nitpick peoples' attire for nobody's benefit, starting problems with the players and punishing them over completely inconsequential 'rule violations', and fining a bunch of players over things nobody will notice.
FIDE is pretending it was all about 'fairness', using fairness as a shield for their stupidity.
If they really wanted to be fair, instead of uniformly fining everyone, how about uniformly STOP nitpicking and agitating players?
And, once again, actually enforce the rules when the outfit is outright inappropriate, rather than enforcing them blindly over a silly nitpick like this?
When FIDE is constantly testing players' patience with absurdly nonsensical regulations, something like this was bound to happen.
Who the hell is gonna read all that
@@Magus.2d How short is your attention span?
@@Magus.2dMe
Thanks for the explanation.
@@Magus.2d took like 3 minutes tops...
wake up people: levy = levi = levi's jeans. this goes deeper than many realize
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@@GromtKromkakejern👽
It blows my mind when two people who have the same cultural heritage have the same name. What a shock!
Well played
FIDE needs Magnus more than Magnus needs them anyway.
Tru
Mh I don't think so anymore..Time's passing for Magnus too..
Not true, this has happened multiple times (ex: Kasparov and other world champs) and FIDE always comes out on top
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Everybody needs everybody facts !!
the punishment didn’t fit the violation. if dress code was so important then fide needs to do an inspection of everyone before they sit down to play. the players are in the middle of doing their job when the match starts. a dress code violation doesn’t effect the game.
This is what I thought of as well. They should be screened for cheating prior to entry into the hall. They should also have their attire checked at the same time.
It is a TV Show.
Wrestling will indeed punish you if you try to break their rules.
Did they think the money just mysteriously appeared? They are filming chess like a TV show. Start acting like it is, rather than a club event in a basement.
One player was punished for wearing shorts in a WC qualifying event mot long ago....he claimed his luggage was lost/hot in room. He was taken to a clothing store.
Yes nobody said there shouldnt have been a punishment, jyst that its a huge punishment for wearing jeans@ericjohnson6780
Non chess players ruining chess for players 😂
@ericjohnson6780 shorts are not allowed in fide handbook. But jeans are actually allowed.
DQing any player, let alone the best player of all time because you dislike their pants is some pretentious BS. Let the players express themselves however they want, how is this any type of debate?
So they can show up in their birthday suite?
@@natethetoe386 lol that may distract other players from the actual chess, so I'd draw the line wear society does - don't be nakey.
@@MrAdamChristopher Right. so my point is that you agree with the concept of a dress code, but not in the degree it was implemented.
@ yes of course
Well, no, even the best player should have to face consequences like the rest
Magnus is just sane version of Fisher, beat chess and doesn't give a frick about FIDE
Let’s figure out the Mystery of Magnus The Diva. The Deep Dive.
They gave Magnus 2 rounds to change, he didn’t. Would it not be belittling to Nepo, if he was to change but not Magnus?
But why the drama to quit?
1. Magnus made some bold claims in the take take take video on his top rivals. He basically reiterated that he had no clear rivals besides Alireza and Hikaru. He’s also been piling on classical for being a bad format that lets weaker players cover up their weaknesses through huge time to apply theory cramming. But in this short time control tournament he drew against 2500s, and lost to lazavik (definitely not a regular 2500 like Magnus’s other opponents).
So after round 8, and being at 5 points, Magnus was very low down the rankings and most likely would not have won or perhaps even finished top third if he continued with this whole tournament. So to avoid his ego getting hurt, and having to eat his words before the tournament, the diva decided to snatch the spotlight and perhaps make this seem like he’s fighting against the Soviet Union military on his own. Now all the casuals with his dna trace at the back of their throats will say the world rapid and blitz champions are not legitimate, ignoring Magnus’s terrible show in the tournament.
2. Magnus wants to be remembered in legend status like Fischer and Kasparov. Forget their strength and accolades, these two not Ono pushed forward chess theory but also had myths around them. Magnus wants to be known more than just Norwegian Rain Man with a sheltered upper middle class childhood and mostly just reduced to e-celeb athlete in modern safe and cushy times. So when he realised 2900 rating wasn’t possible because of overall rating deflation, and chess theory is saturated plus Magnus was never a theory innovator, so he felt a bit lost on how to go forward. Fischer went crazy and a fugitive. Kasparov went against the soviet political machine, and later tried to run for Russia president. But Magnus is like a grown child insanely good at chess, but otherwise pretty normal. No mythical stature. He even wondered how to explore options around chess. When nothing much seemed clear, he decided to pick a fight with fide and promote freestyle chess to have his Kasparov moment of breaking away and having two separate chess divisions. Hence the little childish tantrum like rebellion against fide, backed up by streamers having more clout in chess now and they’re all his minions.
3. For everyone saying, “it’s jUst jEaNz tho”. What is chess at its core as an industry? It’s a spectacle. It sustains itself monetarily and otherwise because of viewership (online, or live tickets, and sponsorships predicated on that viewership). In that regard it is no different at its core business principle than onlyfans, trashy comedians, and other entertainment content. The reason everyone values it is because players devote their lives to developing super human cognitive skill at it? Why? Because they and us fans view chess as something important, prestigious, and serious. Now if dress codes don’t matter at an important event like the literal historical world championship title of rapid and blitz, then doesn’t all this just become casual spectacle? The only reason we respect chess super gms more than content creators and influencers (despite the latter being richer) is because we realise that all this official chess field has gravitas. Without that very gravitas, no one would care about Magnus being the best chess player. He’d be just like some Acoustic Kid genius at the spelling bee contest. It’s because centuries of prestige and respect and seriousness has been developed and preserved for this game of chess, is someone like Magnus able to strut around like “Oh I’m quirky, not like these other nerds. I’m a cool acoustic board game genius!!”
So cut the bull and stop glazing Magnus so much. He already has a girlfriend
Stop sucking FIDE nuts bro took time out of your whole day to write a essay because you’re stupid and jealous
he is acting like a spoiled child
@@gardenoffailure Are you always this dramatic with your writing?
@@kaanthedesperate maybe FIDE is a dirty diaper
This situation is crazy. Magnus got a fine, he was fine with it, that should have been the end of it. Instead they went on a power trip and wanted to make an example of him by disqualifying him. It's like getting pulled over for a busted headlight and the cop giving you a ticket and then he says "you know what, you have to go down to the street to that mechanic and get it fixed otherwise I'll arrest you." You already got a fine, anything more would be an abuse of power.
perfect analogy mate!
I agree with you, especially since the slacks looked to be a part of the outfit. Everything was color coordinated, and looked nice. But the pants were denim, and that somehow matters?
yup, and even the rule book says that disqualification is for "severe misconduct". it lists other penalties such as forfeiting 5% of prize money as a punishment for minor infractions. what about wearing jeans is severe to them? it's clear it isn't just about the pants.
from the rule book: “4.10.10. If a player fails to fulfil his/her duties listed in Articles 4.10.1, 4.10.4-4.10.9, he/she can be penalised by FIDE Council as follows: 5 % of his/her prize money shall be forfeited to the Organiser and a further 5 % to FIDE for each breach. In cases of serious misconduct, the player may be disqualified from the event.”
That's not at all what happened. He repeated the offense and purposefully provoked a disqualification to exit a tournament he was about to lose his title thus not having to admit to a straight loss - especially to himself. He's a terrible loser and feels super entitled. That's all there's going on.
@@O.Hölderummm completely made up accusation, something all his haters do
Well, at least I know how I can win against Carlsen. Take away all of his pants except for jeans.
Or wear a watch.
The fact that FIDE still makes you write all the chess moves despite having electronic chess boards itself shows how backward they are.
Traditions are still good
@@hsbdbsjsjebbdbsbsb370pointless ones aren’t
Magnus has officially entered the Bobby Fisher stage of his career.
If he now creates an organization, then he will enter Kasparov mode
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Magnus is not Fisher. He will still be an ambassador for the game and the fans will follow him. FIDE is a joke and has been for decades. When you exclude the greatest player in the world over a pair of jeans, your dumb organization loses all legitimacy forever. This championship means nothing now, just like the classical title.
It's like a passing of torch for these three players
Nope it’s the other way round 😂
The forfeit was unnecessarily harsh, he had already been fined and said he'll wear something else tomorrow, there was no need for this to escalate at all, really sad he pulled out
He could have just asked his gf nicely babe please bring me a pair of pants and then he would be able to change that in the washroom... Simple solution 😂😂
@@akashmandal5393Fide could have taken a chill 💊 fined him maybe 100 percent before going to disqualification, simple solution 😂😂
@@dw96969 then that would be unfair for nepo cause he was also forced to change his dress..
Dude FIDE doesn't pull out fines based on vibes. It's in the rulebook!
@@akashmandal5393THEN MAYBE DONT HAVE A DRESS CODE?
This has little to do with pants. For months Magnus and his team have been negotiating with FIDE, with millions of dollars at stake. Now FIDE wants to publicly humiliate Magnus like a little child? As Hikaru said, this is all about power, and FIDE is about to lose theirs.
MC knew he was not going to qualify. And then he lets himself be sent away on purpose. Incredibly cowardly.
@@BobbyFischer1975you’re a moron
@@BobbyFischer1975good joke 😂
@@BobbyFischer1975you don't even really believe what you're saying
@@BobbyFischer1975are you just word vomiting?
Denim pants are a professional and aesthetically pleasing pant. Whoever decided it was out of line was Way off base. People wear them to work every day, model them in magazines and advertisements, actors wear them in movies - I might add, are socially acceptable to watch in public and some of which are designed for children to watch - nothing at all offensive about them. Who do they think they are that they're somehow "better" than these professionals? I take personal offense at the incorrect stance that a jean pant is inappropriate. As do I imagine modern and vintage jean enthusiasts.
That shows more how the standard of dress in professional environments has declined.
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he's gonna make 10 different videos all titled "MAGNUS DRAMA UPDATE"
Fun fact: First time Magnus is playing against a fellow Norwegian on live TV for ~750,000 people in Norway is also his last time playing in a FIDE tournament.
Why his last time? There will be lots of fide tournaments next year where magnus is in lol
@@uradviser9768 The odds of him attenting after a fiasco like this is small. Magnus knows his worth isnt decided by fide tournaments or their trash ranking system.
He is the greatest chess player of all time no matter what
@@nohandle31431 so magnus has officially ended his whole chess career and will only play online?
@@nohandle31431 your making it bigger than it is. Magnus Team and FIDE will have some conversation in background an in 1-2 month everything will be resolved and this incident will be almost forgotten..
@@uradviser9768I guess he will play over the board, but not if it is Fide- tournament.
I don't know about New York, but in Los Angeles, a sport coat and jeans is literally formal wear.
Perhaps in another country it might be different, but jeans can very much be formal wear in America.
The formal dress for
athletes are shorts then why jeans can't be formal for chess
You could wear that to a wedding in Vancouver
I wouldn't call it formal. I would call it business casual or semi-formal. But honestly anything business casual and above means that its not going to be a distraction which is why there is a dress code to begin with. You don't need to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
Definitely not formal, Also the dress code is something that everyone has followed and has been enforced for years
As a casual player, just hearing that Magnus lost or had to forfeit due to the pants he had on is stupid.
Imagine every player came with Jeans tomorrow. Fide would be F'd. Magnus spoke the heart of the fans when he said F U
The jeans speak for themselves
this has happened in many sports, F1, baseball, basketball....
That would be legendary
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They won‘t they have other interests, like winning the tournament, they are happy that magnus is gone lol
I can understand small punishments for not adhering to a dress code (fines, time penalty, etc.) or other small rules, but disqualification is overkill. FIDE is on a power trip, and everyone can see it
I would agree if they disqualified him for a first offense, but they fined him initially, only DQd him for the 2nd offense
He was issued a $200 fine to begin with. Refusal to change clothes "immediately" instead of the next day as Magnus offered is what resulted in "DQ." Still think that was a reasonable compromise that the Chief Arbiter should've allowed for the fine. EDIT: As the video explains from 1:09 - 1:36 , he was not technically disqualified, but the restricting him from round 9 play effectively eliminates the ability to make a podium finish were he to continue playing round 10 onward... it's definitely in the spirit of a "DQ."
Also Zaven Andriasian at the same event got away with "trousers" that were made to look just like jeans, so this is still just arbitrary powertripping by the arbiter any way you slice it.
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You understand why an international chess organization enforces a dress code?
This only makes sense if you legitimately think it's about dress code. As soon as it was pointed out that Carlson has a venture directly competing with FIDE the profit motive becomes very clear.
Regardless of what you think of Carlson, he's been carrying the entertainment side (aka the part of the sport that actually generates revenue) of professional chess for over a decade now, there's no way FIDE isn't looking to cut him off at the knees every chance they get to keep their golden goose from getting run over.
Magnus plays the Jeans Gambit Declined 😂
Bro can you tell why gukesh had not participated in this tournament??
@@tejasff2864bro he is tired after playing world championship
@@tejasff2864he already played the WCC , he needs some rest yo , cant just play around everywhere
and it's completely winning for White(Magnus)
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Something for people to consider: Chess is growing the most in countries with lower average incomes and being able to afford suits isn't something to reasonably expectable - especially since the age where people become grandmasters is averaging lower all the time.
According to someone on Twitter (which obviously means it's 100% accurate), jeans themselves are permitted in the FIDE dress code. Torn jeans are not. You can be the judge, but the jeans Magnus was wearing were not torn.
The FIDE rules are terribly written. There’s manuals that allow jeans and other manuals that don’t. And even more manuals that say jeans are not allowed “in most cases.” They really need to get it together.
Anybody else nobody would’ve said anything… like if it’s that serious stop me right away before the match and don’t even let me on the damn building if it’s that serious it’s Jeans it’s under the table lol and not like pajamas or something nice Jeans
MC knew he was not going to qualify. And then he lets himself be sent away on purpose. Incredibly cowardly.
@b.j.a.m.peters Lil bro it's past your bedtime, and you know nothing about the buisness behind it anyway.
why do you say so
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U wanna play
need formal attire to Win at chess also
@@joshuabird8362😂
Remember the dresscode when you start playing tournaments. 😂
Absolutely wild. Fide thinking they're in the right but really just biting the hand that feeds them. Let's go Freestyle Chess, leave fide in the dust.
nobody leaving fide man, magnus is comletely in the wrong here. he is acting like a spoiled child
@@kaanthedesperate none staying, nobody knows your wc winner gukesh lol, who he is 😂😂
@@pias-04terrible bait bro
@@pias-04 very few of sane world chess champion
Fide warned him about it in round 1 and didn't disqualify him from a round till round 9. He had more than enough time to just go change his pants.
The comparison to Fischer and Kasparov is fascinating. It’s undeniable that both those legends had not only incredible achievements but also narratives that transcended the board. Magnus’s challenge is different: he excels in an era where chess has become more global, less politically charged, and deeply intertwined with technology. Unlike Kasparov, Magnus doesn’t have the Cold War mythos behind him, and unlike Fischer, he doesn’t embody an enigmatic, tragic genius.
A pair of black jeans is the most formal thing I’ve ever seen anyone at work wear. Fide is on a power trip enforcing a dress code which doesn’t reflect modern dress
No you cretin, they have their own set of rules, which the players could bring up beforehand. Magnus didnt, instead chose to throw a tantrum mid toruney(yes, a tantrum, by not listening after warnings and a fine, that is a tantrum. Tantrum doesnt have to be loud and involve throwing a fit)
chess events shouldn't have any dress-code anyway, if something is OK to wear to a good restaurant it should be good enough for a tabletop game
Perhaps the working class are not allowed to play chess ,in a professional class. Where only the fat controller , dictates the colour of your underwear.
@@event-keystrim213fancy restaurants have dress codes, not none
It’s not about the jeans
1:32 yes with jeans he had an unfair advantage
With jeans he can use his %2 power(that's too much for the world)
@@SwetlessNoob dont ride him that much bro
@@user-ex7kw7rw9s your either blind or just a absurdly dumb💀
I agree the fabric jeans is made of is so unfair because it disgusts his opponents so bad they have no choice but to disqualify him
I was there today for Rd 6, and it was striking and cool to see how different people showed up. Nepo with his hoodie, Pragg with a suit, Magnus being Magnus, Hans having a weird non-prof outfit - it was awesome to see so much personality with all the participants and this rule is straight idiotic. At my local club we wear whatever is comfy and call it a day. FIDE is a joke.
so fide is equivalent to your local club? lets say rules are changed and magnus wore something that has something offensive written on it for the opponent. what then? rules are enforced for a reason.
@@TheRealGigaCatyeah offensive shirts are one thing, but how can a pair of jeans offend anyone?
@@TheRealGigaCat you can't compare something offensive with a pair of jeans 💀
@@TheRealGigaCat actually yes, it kind of is. Competitive chess is competitive chess and made by the players, not by its governance. I understand the necessity for some basic rules here, and yes wearing something offensive should probably be defined therein.
We are decidedly not talking about something offensive here, anyone who considers Magnus’ outfit today offensive needs to get checked out. Again, I was there, the man looked sharp, sharper than me certainly, 10x sharper than Hans Niemann.
Finally, my understanding is that FIDE introduced this dress code in 2018 against the will of a good chunk of top players. So historically this is irrelevant too; there’s absolutely no argument or reason why one should bar a top player (any top player) from sitting at the board in this kind of situation.
@@TheRealGigaCat Nah the comparison here doesn't work at all. What you said is like, severe mental impairment type stuff and I truly hope you're okay.
What's crazy is that FIDE allows jeans? Were they torn? Can we get specifics on what about his jeans aren't allowed? Because Regulation 3.a. under their dress code LITERALLY says jeans are allowed. This just looks like FIDE is going crazy to assert control.
There's a short interview with Levy and Magnus is wearing normal jeans.
It seems to me like being fined and fixing the mistake at his next arrival at the venue should be more than sufficient in all honesty. Giving someone forfeits for not looking nice enough, not indecent or wearing a shirt with something inappropriate on it but just not having nice enough pants on, is absurd.
what's absurd is him knowing the rules and ignoring them, then being warned multiple times, ignored them. Telling them he will comply with regulations on his own time frame and he doesn't care. Then when he got sanctioned make out like you are a victim and refuse to play and withdraw, you are 100% right it's absurd.
I know that you are a Gotham fan and probably a young child/teen, but please make sure to actually read a lot of information related to such incidents before commenting on them. Even if the rule is stupid, it is being followed by everyone else, and therefore Magnus must do that as well. Without rules, we are animals in the jungle. That applies to "stupid" rules as well. Its not about what the rule is, its the fact that a rule was disobeyed directly
@@niranjanrajesh1058No, rules should not be followed all the times. The great chess players break chess rules when necessary to win. Rules are for puppets
@niranjanrajesh1058 laws/rules have nothing to do with civility, morality, or efficiently, and you would know that if you paid any attention to your basic middle school history class, lol.
@@niranjanrajesh1058exactly its Gotham's profession to create drama, for his channel. Its fine. But as a chess player, your job is to play chess, which is what Magnus should have done, creating drama isnt his job.
For people saying Magnus should just follow the rules. It’s like during the case of the female IM again, where the arbiter made a mistake of marking the match as a loss when she clearly drew.
Although they corrected that, she was already matched against someone as if she lost. And FIDE stated they aren’t able to change the match-up because of the ‘rules’.
Remember, the intention behind making the rule is more important. They made that rule in order to ensure fair play, yet in this case, following that very same rule will be unfair to the female IM.
The case against Magnus, and even Ian is similar. They made rules like those to ensure the players look presentable in front of the camera for the viewers and the sponsors.
They already wore a formal and presentable attire when they came. Do they really have to be so strict with implementing ‘that’ rule when it literally doesn’t cause any inconvenience to anyone?
No. This is just a clear case of a power play. Ian complied because he didn’t want more trouble, and they let that get to their head.
Magnus was already fined and he himself stated he will follow that rule for tomorrow’s match. When they kept insisting and even threatened him with disqualification, as he said, it became a matter of principle.
Should he bow down even more when he already tried complying with them so much over such a rule?
Clearly he didn’t, and now FIDE has to accept the consequences of letting that power get to their head.
That female was not a GM, she was an IM Vantika Agrawal
@FocusonSolution780 oh thanks! I'm gonna edit it now
Everyone follows the rule
It was actually a draw, the arbiter marked a loss for vantika instead of a draw for both players
Jeans are not ok to wear for fide? Seriously?
if he was wearing a shirt like Levy is here, then the disqualification would have been understandable
I like Levy's shirt. ❤
Drippy shirt fym
Nothing wrong with levy’s shirt, it allows him to sacrifice even more rooks
I love Levy’s shirt
lol
The literal definition of judging people based on their outfit. Let's stop freaking out about how someone dresses. What a joke.
The depth of this incident is much much bigger, possibility is we might never see Magnus in any rapid, blitz and classical tournament ever.
Just not FIDE. He'll dive deeper into Freestyle and he's ambasador for chess on the ESports World Cup. He'll continue playing and promoting the sport but he'll probably try to create an alternative Federation or campaign hard for FIDE to change
Sad for chess
@mannug7275 Sad a player feels he's so powerful he can't even wear elementary dress codes. Maybe he should cry and ruin a persons career because he "was being outplayed."
which negates anyone whoever wins them if magnus isnt there
@@jitomatadawell hopefully Magnus will finally have a positive influence on chess and will remove some of the barriers of entry for women, even though the catalyst was his pants, women one day might not have to wear high heels because a man came in one day with casual pants and because of that, the rules changed. All women must now bow to their savior, the blue jeans white man. Hurray! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The wikipedia page on FIDE is just a list of controversies.
Also let me add, this is outrageous, the world champion can't play because of a pair of jeans.
It wasn't like he was wearing a full fursuit or anything. A PAIR of jeans.
Breaking News: All of the contestants of the FIDE tournament showed up wearing fursuits. The "F" in FIDE now stands for FURRY.
@@johnlime1469 XDDDD Fursuits are now the dresscode.
With Levy we can bring down even fide, he is justice levy from gotham.
I’m not bringing down anything over a pair of jeans. Magnus can suck it up
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Let’s figure out the Mystery of Magnus The Diva. The Deep Dive.
They gave Magnus 2 rounds to change, he didn’t. Would it not be belittling to Nepo, if he was to change but not Magnus?
But why the drama to quit?
1. Magnus made some bold claims in the take take take video on his top rivals. He basically reiterated that he had no clear rivals besides Alireza and Hikaru. He’s also been piling on classical for being a bad format that lets weaker players cover up their weaknesses through huge time to apply theory cramming. But in this short time control tournament he drew against 2500s, and lost to lazavik (definitely not a regular 2500 like Magnus’s other opponents).
So after round 8, and being at 5 points, Magnus was very low down the rankings and most likely would not have won or perhaps even finished top third if he continued with this whole tournament. So to avoid his ego getting hurt, and having to eat his words before the tournament, the diva decided to snatch the spotlight and perhaps make this seem like he’s fighting against the Soviet Union military on his own. Now all the casuals with his dna trace at the back of their throats will say the world rapid and blitz champions are not legitimate, ignoring Magnus’s terrible show in the tournament.
2. Magnus wants to be remembered in legend status like Fischer and Kasparov. Forget their strength and accolades, these two not Ono pushed forward chess theory but also had myths around them. Magnus wants to be known more than just Norwegian Rain Man with a sheltered upper middle class childhood and mostly just reduced to e-celeb athlete in modern safe and cushy times. So when he realised 2900 rating wasn’t possible because of overall rating deflation, and chess theory is saturated plus Magnus was never a theory innovator, so he felt a bit lost on how to go forward. Fischer went crazy and a fugitive. Kasparov went against the soviet political machine, and later tried to run for Russia president. But Magnus is like a grown child insanely good at chess, but otherwise pretty normal. No mythical stature. He even wondered how to explore options around chess. When nothing much seemed clear, he decided to pick a fight with fide and promote freestyle chess to have his Kasparov moment of breaking away and having two separate chess divisions. Hence the little childish tantrum like rebellion against fide, backed up by streamers having more clout in chess now and they’re all his minions.
3. For everyone saying, “it’s jUst jEaNz tho”. What is chess at its core as an industry? It’s a spectacle. It sustains itself monetarily and otherwise because of viewership (online, or live tickets, and sponsorships predicated on that viewership). In that regard it is no different at its core business principle than onlyfans, trashy comedians, and other entertainment content. The reason everyone values it is because players devote their lives to developing super human cognitive skill at it? Why? Because they and us fans view chess as something important, prestigious, and serious. Now if dress codes don’t matter at an important event like the literal historical world championship title of rapid and blitz, then doesn’t all this just become casual spectacle? The only reason we respect chess super gms more than content creators and influencers (despite the latter being richer) is because we realise that all this official chess field has gravitas. Without that very gravitas, no one would care about Magnus being the best chess player. He’d be just like some Acoustic Kid genius at the spelling bee contest. It’s because centuries of prestige and respect and seriousness has been developed and preserved for this game of chess, is someone like Magnus able to strut around like “Oh I’m quirky, not like these other nerds. I’m a cool acoustic board game genius!!”
So cut the bull and stop glazing Magnus so much. He already has a girlfriend
Didn't Levy tell Hans not to act like this? Didn't have the balls to tell Magnus how to talk... Hmm
Also, the amount of sexism and elitism that both of these WHITE BOYS have profited while being in the chess world.. Are we done with it. Is Take Take Take that profitable of an app that they are ready to burn down the system? Quick, before anyone asks if women will be allowed to play chess in comfortable shoes....
I'm sorry, is this a joke? Because this is a joke. Now we care? Poor white millionaires, fighting other white millionaires. Which side should I pick? Help. I'm stuck on laughing my ass off at the levels of hypocrisy only previously seen in politics 😂😂😂
Yours absolutely correct 💯 @@gardenoffailure
What's funny is what did people wear when chess was invented, also when it became more well known.....but new era you have to have a 5k dollar suit to play and represent.
Magnus has not cared about FIDE-controlled chess for several years and this was the last straw. He's not insane like Fischer. But I'm with him on this. Wearing jeans is not a big deal. Magnus basically beat the main storyline of chess and now he's just interested in side quests.
Rules are rules for everyone 😊
@mannug7275 and some rules are stupid and have no purpose, and since they do no good should be removed from the rule book
@mannug7275 You’re a sheep 🐑 bæææ
Bobby was not nuts. He "knew" and talked too much. Far from crazy was Bobby.
@@EduardoExorcista777he was violently antisemitic
Bro I don't care what the players wear personally but telling someone basically "we own you, change your jeans now or suffer the consequences" I'd rage quit too. The way most of us watch the game is with the players as names in your recaps. Just strange behavior by people ego tripping.
Not to mention the 200€ fine. That's not about money obviously, that's about respect. WHO are they they think?
The only one ego tripping is magnus, there’s hundreds of players following the rules this tourney, with the known dress code, and nepo who complied with walking to the hotel 3 minutes away to change, magnus is the only one who didn’t and acted like a baby when the rules were enforced
like imagine ian who’s shoes were out of code, they don’t even show up in video of the tournament, yet he still goes back to change, but magnus can’t? He has an ego for no reason
Dude, there are rules and he signed off on them. What do you expect them to do, not to enforce the rules? What kind of an organization that would be (as if there is not enough criticisms of FIDE already)?? He is also the top-rated player, all attention is on him, and he openly flaunts the rules as if they dont apply to him. Why did he sign off on them in the first place them and showed up? If he was so adamant about FiDE not telling him what to do, he should have just not shown up and quit the federation before the tournament. Childish behavior, the second coming of Bobby Fischer
@@johnnytest3230exactly, Magnus fanboys will be quick to defend him but if you check out emils interview with take take take, he specified that Magnus had time to change, he just refused to do so.
Leaving aside for a moment the fact that the dress code (or even the whole "behavior code") in chess is ridiculous, this definitely is not a "pants" issue. This is FIDE trying to reassert themselves as the owners and controllers of chess because of the Freestyle Chess drama (and also probably the fact that Magnus kinda "devalued" the World Chess Champion title nor participate in the last Candidates)...
The thing is that I think FIDE just shot themselves on the foot: they probably didn't think Magnus would just drop out of the Blitz portion of the tournament. Now they are stuck as the guys who disqualified the best chess player in history because of pants AND burned the bridges for any "peaceful" resolution to the Freestyle Chess thing.
What is the freestyle chess thing?
Nepo was fined for his sheakers, he changed them and continued playing. Magnus was observing the dress code before, but now suddenly it became so super important to him to wear jeans.
If it is a power play, it is power play on the Magnus's part to own chess completely. He became co-owner of chess24, then chesscom moving him to the helm of all online chess. He own or co-owns more and more major tournaments, his only remaining obstacle to essentially own both online and offline chess is FIDE. If he dismantles them, it will be a game belonging to him and his buddies
And of course, he owns Gotham, he owns Hikaru, he owns the vast majority of all chess influencers. At this point it's almost impossible to get your chess coverage from people who aren't dependent on Magnus
@ccruzp06 The dress and behaviour codes are NOT ridiculous. The comfort and convenience of other competitors and the needs of advertisers and sponsors are important- very important. Once the dress&behaviour code is published and agreed the code should stand. In this case the enforcement was heavy-handed. I agree with Levy that allowing Magnus to finish the session dressed as he was would have been kinder, and certainly has no bearing on the results. If Magnus or anyone else was so offended by the rules I am sure the World's Press would have been delighted to hear about it before the event. Otherwise, if the code bothers you so much, why enter the event...?
@@ameroo6163 check out Levy's video for a more in depth explanation, but the tl;dr is that Magnus and other top players feel like they aren't getting enough revenue from FIDE tournaments and they don't agree with FIDE's rulings about stuff (see Magnus not defending the CWC) and so they have found people with money that are willing to sponsor other tournaments. This threatens FIDE's control over chess and apparently there were even threats of not allowing players who play in the Freestyle chess thing to play in FIDE tournaments.
@@NJ-wb1cz sure Magnus, just like Nepo, had the choice to do that. The thing is that, if FIDE had decided to fine Magnus for each game played while violating the dress code, even increasingly heavier fines, this would've been a non-issue. I call it a power play from FIDE because the punishment was disproportionate to the actual fault: forcing him to forfeit a round is effectively saying "you're not winning the RWC because of your pants".
I'm not defending Magnus. The Freestyle Chess thing is definitely him trying to gain control over the game, I agree with you. What I'm saying is that FIDE shot themselves on the foot because this damages their credibility way more than Magnus'
Rules are rules. ... Magnus knew the rules before he entered the tournament.
A part of me is begging Magnus for him to not quit the tournament yet and for him to join the next match in his pajamas, just to see how severe of a mental breakdown does FIDE go into.
Lmao
They won't care at all, they'll just punish him again for breaking the rules and he will cry like a baby
@@gredaxthey won’t care at all except for the part where they desperately need him for anyone to care
Lmao
@@skivvytv6229 They don't need him at all, the WC matches without him in it have been bigger than ever. Why would they need him?
@@gredaxBecouse noone Cared for the wc but for the memes… anyone who thinks the WC was that meaningful is new to chess
Honestly chess becoming less formal and stuffy is a great thing. At the end of the day it’s a game. It’s serious competition and should be treated as such, but so is football and people can manage to have fun with that. FIDE needs to change if they want the game to continue to prosper.
Vladimir Kramnik 2.0- Cheating through jeans😂😂😂
Better than accusing someone OTB cheating without proof
Never letting bro cook again... Like bro milked out 27 MINUTES of content out of 👖 and 🐐
I understand the need for a dress code, so players don't wear something crazy like a Halloween costume to purposefully distract their opponents, but this is beyond reasonable. This situation should be enough to justify changing the rules.
There's dress code specifically , no player is greater than chess, you gotta respect the rules
@@C.Nouzen Show me the rule in chess which says "Thou shalt not wear jeans" ... what move is that?
@@C.NouzenThe players , and people who enjoy chess are what make up the sport, and institution.
The sport is not greater than the people who made it great.
Those rules can, and will be changed with the times, and culture surrounding the sport.
This isn't protective gear, nor is it distracting clothing.
It's jeans this is ridiculous brown nosing behavior.
@@C.Nouzen how does dress code relate to chess in any way
@@C.Nouzenthe dress code should be abolished or be made to be more reasonable. What they are trying to enforce is from decades ago and hasn't kept up with the times.
Gotham, idk if you’ll see this but the uncharged and balanced manner in which you approach drama is so refreshing when so many news networks and journalists can’t seem to manage the same professionalism.
i agree he's very professional but clearly biased towards Magnus cuz obvious reasons, like f*ck FIDE, they suck, but Magnus is making a scene out of nothing and being a sore loser and everyone's supporting that, even though anyone else would just be ridiculed, like Hans or Kramnik, who for the record I'm not supporting, i'm just saying ppl r biased as sh*t
Do you know why? His on the same talking point room in take take take and they hv been together as friends for so long. So no point to sabotage him. Why not say something neutral so will not offend him yet still maintain his audience.
The only people that see 'drama' in this are pimply nosed kids or what they eventually become later in life. I was the head of the chess club and played well past University into my 40s and I can tell you without a hint of doubt 99.9% of people couldn't give two shits about this stuff.
It's actually depressing to think any of this equates to 'drama'. Just wait until you hit the real world!
One has to remember this is Magnus’ first Christmas without his mother. It obviously that it would be a difficult time of year for anyone in his situation, and the expectations of winning the tournament are both personal and fan highs.
For FIDE to overextend in regulating Freestyle chess and then nitpick him about dress code might be too extreme.
His outraged reaction ought to be empathised with.
If FIDE wants to trademark the title “World Championship” then they ought to get up-to-date with hosting Chess960 in the classical World Championship format. Give the players and the fans what they want.
The whole chess world could do with a doobie.
noooooooooooooooooooooooo :
He could have sat out of the tournament. Not in the spirit of game to throw tantrums like a kid.
Oh. nOw we're making excuses for the best player in the world that is also a millionaire? I'm sorry, but didn't Levy "big brother" Hans and told him not to act like that? Where was big brother Levy today??
As for the dress code, many women and people of less value have been kept away by that and similar rules and biased enforcements. Why should we care now that the orphan boy got hit with the same treatment minorities get to enjoy on a daily basis???
Doobie, the only fire I wanna see is to the entire system. And not just in chess.
Happy Motherfucking holidays, Magnus.
@@Padf007o yeah, please provide us the video of Magnus crying on the floor that'd be such a hit, please please pretty please 🥺
@@Padf007 Yeah, absolutely disgraceful for FIDE to throw a tantrum because of the players' clothes.
I'm an old man, so personally I liked the days when players wore elegant suits and ties to top tournaments, like in that scene from the classic James Bond movie, From Russia, with Love. To me it makes the game seem more exciting and elegant. But, I am very pragmatic and utilitarian. If more fans enjoy the game and competitions in hoodies and jeans, then that is better. It provides the most enjoyment for the chess public. Still, I think a mix might provide the most enjoyment. Hoodies and t-shirts online and at most events, but some special competitions at elegant and exotic locales with beautiful suits and ties and evening dresses.
very reasonable and fair comments
i agree, if the rules are archaic and the masses want them changed to something more modern, then so be it, and let due process pursue. doesn't excuse current behavior of breaking said rules, when knowingly agreeing to them beforehand, as magnus has done though.
@@Goku17yen i think if you wear dark jeans that should be ok, i mean thats not ripped jeans etc , Maguns is always smart casual , rules are vague and say that 'generally trouser must be worn but what if somebody is in a wheelchair, must they wear trousers underneath the blanket ?
Reminds me of what the Browns did to Jim Brown back in the day. They tried to flex on the best player in history, he said FU. The Browns haven’t won anything since. Cleveland needed Brown more than he needed football.
Yeah, but FIDE doesnt really need Magnus. What is he gonna do, create a new international chess body?
@@OsbornsConcise all ill say is people haven't given any real credit to the world champion since he left. Sure people do give credit but quite a big group don't. Sure fide may not need him but what they are doing is bad for the game regardless of whether you agree with magnus here or not
@@OsbornsConcisethey do, FIDE sucks and everybody knows this. And with how global and self sustained chess can be, nobody really needs FIDE, FIDE needs the players.
@ Fide does need players of course, but players by themselves would be just a disorganised bunch of drama queens never agreeing on any rules and never getting anything organized at all. Every soort has a governing body, so players need FIDE as much, if not more than FiDe needs them
@OsbornsConcise you are dead wrong, out of touch, stuck in the 1900s and also a moron
Get out of here bootlicker, God knows I'm disabling notifications
Never thought the one who defeats magnus would be a pair of jeans
He used the jeans as a face saving mechanism in a tournament where half way through he was on track to finish 57th.
4:07 john cena would play peacemaker
Magnus is likely discrediting FIDE to push his own ventures like the Champions Chess Tour and Play Magnus Group, which profit from subscriptions, sponsorships, and online events. By creating his own chess ecosystem, he ensures he controls the revenue streams-be it through streaming platforms, paid courses, or tournaments-turning chess into a lucrative business for himself.
Shame on FIDE. These are adults they should be treating them as such. Who cares about jeans. People will lose interest in chess if this continues
Already lost interest in FIDE chess .
) Did Magnus cheat?
2) Did Magnus follow the rules of chess?
3) Are the FIDE officials IM, GM, NM or whatever?
4) What are the ELOs of the FIDE officials?
5) Can anyone of the FIDE officials beat me in a 5-minute blitz?
6) How many chess openings and gambits does the FIDE officials know?
7) How long must each FIDE officials remain as such?
8) What are the perks, benefits and priviliges of FIDE officials?
9) Will chess be popular if the only players are the FIDE officials?
10) Did the FIDE officials see to it that the tournament venue is 5 meters away from hotels rooms of the players?
11) Did the FIDE officials have their own excludive limousines and 6-star hotel accommodatons?ollow the rules of chess?
3) Are the FIDE officials IM, GM, NM or whatever?
4) What are the ELOs of the FIDE officials?
5) Can anyone of the FIDE officials beat me in a 5-minute blitz?
6) How many chess openings and gambits does the FIDE officials know?
7) How long must each FIDE officials remain as such?
8) What are the perks, benefits and priviliges of FIDE officials?
9) Will chess be popular if the only players are the FIDE officials?
10) Did the FIDE officials see to it that the tournament venue is 5 meters away from hotels rooms of the players?
11) Did the FIDE officials have their own excludive limousines and 6-star hotel accommodatons?
12) Who spent for the complete uniforms of the FIDE officials?
this is ridiculous, fide representatives are ruining chess by not understanding which era we are in
FIDE is a joke, corruption all way through. The community outside is just growing rapidly, and there are options for the very best players. Magnus and Hikaru are showing the way!
I agree with both of you, FIDE is a joke. No wonder Bobby Fischer, Garry Kasparov, Nigel Short and Magnus Carlsen all had problems with FIDE.
@@ArranVid Because they are arrogant.
@@michaelwright8896 That doesn't mean that they were wrong.
If we've been through 3 generations of our best players having issues with fide then we need to Address fide, and stop blaming the players keeping the sport alive.
@ Well Fishcer was mentally ill and becoming angrier and dishonest as time went on, Kasparov was also very toxic, and Carlsen sort of wears wrong clothes to tournaments as to make a statement that he is above the rules.
Its funny.. Levy's last video was "will magnus be the world champion" and then "He got kicked out" 🙂
I think a dress code is fair, for most sports including individual sports there are strict dress codes with some exceptions namely being "Keep it respectful" dress codes, as those allow for more leeway. Not being able to participate in a sport as a result is common. But that is typically only in scenarios where the event organizers do not want to be held liable for safety shenanigans such as wearing loose clothing and jewelry on a basketball court or soccer field. Other dress codes that are there strictly to keep a sport clean looking, will normally only result in a fine; especially when it is the first offense. That is to say that although some may believe that a dress code should be unilaterally destroyed, to keep up a sport like appearance, dress codes should be utilized. I mean, imagine if just some rough homeless looking fellow was on one of your favourite sports teams or a major contender in a sport you watch. It would wreck the sports image. So, understandably, Chess SHOULD have a dress code.
The question becomes: How strict of a dress code should Chess have?
My answer is this: The dress code should depend on the event organizer's regulations. However the organizer's regulations should permit for a large variety of apparel, barring only clothing which shows skin or is extremely loose. Essentially, keep it tamer than a high-schooler.
Now for sponsorship? if we really wants Chess to have sponsors, we should have the dress code be suits and ties, that way Chess could be associated not just with the idea of 'intellectual' but also of higher class. That would entice companies which sell luxury goods to invest in the Chess world. Like, imagine Rolex, the ads would be too easy with watches "Need the time but only the Chess clock is around? We've got you covered. Rolex". Another option would be to have Chess players act as models. Sign with a company to wear their clothes during large Chess events as a way to promote their clothes. A sense of luxury would be good, which is what I think FIDE is thinking.
So, depending on how we want Chess to look and how we want Chess to be like at the highest levels, a stricter dress code certainly seems important. If you give someone an inch, they'll take a mile. So they shouldn't give exceptions, even if it is the face of chess himself, Magnus Carlsen(If anything, they ought to be stricter with those who represent).
But in this case? I believe expulsion from the round is a ridiculous punishment for regular jeans. A fine would do just fine. If it were ripped jeans or showed skin? Fine, whatever, expulsion would at least seem somewhat reasonable. But plain jeans should be a light fine at most.
6:21 What more to say? Great injustice that is ruining our era of chess and not allowing us to see the GOAT play chess. Levy i commend you on your way with words but there is no beating around the bush with this one. A complete and utter failure from FIDE.
Yeah Magnus should be able to dictate the rules he follows and on what time frame you are right
@gredax he looked professional, isn't that the point of the rule? What more does dragging it to the letter accomplish? It was a childish power play by FIDE and he told them to shove it.
sure, but if that was a genuine concern why didn't he raise it ahead of time? He knew the rules and agreed to them. He played enough events that he knew exactly what was going to happen. He was asked to change, got a warning, then a fine and then a forfeit. At every step he got to continue on the understanding that he'd follow the rule. Ian got a warning and then changed. But Magnus is more like a kid that wants to see how much he can get away with due to his GOAT position.
@AndreiDinTheHouse Ian doesn't have the power to say no, magnus does, Nepo also supported magnus and agreed fide was being ridiculous, so did kasparov, so did hikaru. You are not as intimately involved as those people, they know magnus personally, they know fide personally and chose to support magnus. You better have some sweet insider knowledge as a side liner to be in a position to refute their support of magnus?
Bro promoting Magnus better than FIDE ever could
They made their point by fining him and bro already agreed to change for the next day. This was clearly personal. Fide ya fk’d up…
Yes, but Magnus was acting extremely childish as well
Why did Fide mess up? It is clearly a crying Norwegian baby who is making a mockery out of himself and the sport. Ban the moron for life.
@@Your_E-girlit's not childish act
Even a child can ask about wrong things
Just a jean can destroy chess? Or fide ?😏 Jean are formal dress for many countries. Maybe he thinks that rules should be change bcz it is useless and illogical rule
Personal? The fine was for the first game, which he got to play. A fine is not a free pass to keep repeating offenses, next game you still have to abide by the rules. It was a power play by Magnus, who thinks the rules don’t apply to him.
@@parafraceren Exactly. Magnus knew fully well what he was doing from the first moment. He want things his way, everyone else should bend the knee and follow his lead. It is what a spoiled sociopath with parents who babied him his whole life does and thinks.
I’m pumped for Carlson's new freestyle league and world championship! It looks like all the biggest names are joining.
It’s official. Carbon Fiber vs Magnesium Calcium
@DontReadMypicturee Shutup
@DontReadMypicturee nobody does
@@NJDJ2don't give it engagement, report instead
I've worn jeans to Michelin-starred restaurants, to weddings, to awards ceremonies, you name it... unless jeans are a health & safety issue, or they aren't "presentable" (ie. ripped, dirty, or are a colour/fit that's too 'casual' for the event), they are simply another pair of pants. For a chess organisation to take issue with the type of _fabric & cut_ of a competitor's pants is beyond absurd, and to treat grown adults like children by demanding they "go & change out of jeans" after they've already been competing all day without having any 'jeans-related incidents' is childishly petty... what's next, dictating hemline lengths lest someone reveal a little too much ankle?! Oh, the scandal! 🤦♀
You joke but that actually is pretty common. Anna cramling mentioned once playing a summer event in the Mediterranean somewhere where it was over 100 degrees, and being told her blouse was "distracting" because it was too revealing and she needed to wear something over it or change. She even showed a picture of the same style/cut of top, which would have been fine under even my conservative american middle schools dress code, let alone in southern europe during a hot summer day. Quite a few female players have complained about that, which makes sense honestly. People are still way oversensitive about dress codes even for men in a lot of places, let alone for women
@@andrewbloom7694Dude, you very well know mens hormons and if you are honest you have been distracted by way less than a top from time to time. In international events people from all kind of countries play chess and not everybody is used to certain clothing or appreciates to be distracted.
@@andrewbloom7694fide is a joke
Do you know FIDE don't allow normal jeans but they do allow ripped jeans, yeah! They are ridiculous
If they had forced a player who does not generate so much money to dress according to the rules, there would not be so much criticism of FIDE.
Yes, because this would have not noticed by other ppl, but there are standarts that have not aged well, and myb this is one of them, and this dress code should be looked at, and updated, because standarts of society have changed, and so myb should standarts of dress code
@@aiu2616more like they dont think that particular player is above fide, but many dumb fans think magnus should follow the same rules as the others, weird mentality
Что толку от критики, если никто не встал из-за столика и не сказал "я не буду играть в этом Чемпионате, если не вернете Магнуса и не попросите у него прощения". Все, что после - не имеет большого значения. Главное - шахматному миру плюнули в лицо - выкинули лучшего игрока, Личность, за штаны. Остальные - карлики, послушные любым приказам. Возможно, из-за бедственного положения.
The biggest issue with this, is how the dress code allows insane shirts, pants that looked like they had been worn to one too many hippie concerts, but not a pair of nice plain unscratched jeans that actually goes well with the rest of the attire. You have people looking like clowns or garage band members, and they don't even get a warning/fine. They purely wanted to assert themselves. Hope big names join Magnus and then FIDE can sit there with rank 30 to 100 in their tournaments without viewers.
Simply ridiculous to ban any player for wearing freaking jeans let alone the current champion. The dumb rule should not exist in the first place, but they should’ve gave him the fine and a warning not to do it again tomorrow and THATS IT.
He wasn;t banned, he withdrew
@@gredax He was banned they refused to pair him for his last game unless he changed the jeans.
They aren’t the police, how do they give him a fine
@@weeblordgaming6062, extortion, basically: "You pay us or you won't be able to participate in our events"
he is
world champion title is just a random title @@pozatat
Getting past the dress code kabuki theater and having now heard the various interviews of CEO of Fide, Hikaru, and Magnus, its pretty clear that FIDE is claiming every tournament that calls itself a word championship must 1) be governed by FIDE, that’s less a TM matter, but vertical monopolist restraint of trade. 2) On top of this, the CEO claims there are non-compete provisions in players contracts (Levy please follow up on this with CEO, Hikaru denied it) which could limit player independence. There will be a intellectual property vs monopoly restraint of trade suit between entities, and 2) litigation on covenants not to compete. US Chess players who are members of US Chess and Fide should get involved in separate NLRB union actions as well as monopoly lawsuits not unlike NCAA players have with NIL litigation. IMO, this is the outline of the problem, but if professional chess players don’t organize then FIDE will win as it did against Kasparov.
Pardon the typos, I’m 61 and trust me, mouse slips occur on Iphone keyboards too.
@@whitmckinley961 Maybe FIDE is trying to do the same with "chess world champion" what Olympic Comitee does with "olympian" - but this is question to some lawyer
@@drevnykot Doubtless their claim will have various IP components.
It’s definitely time for a players Union. Stand up instead of running away.
That was tried by Kasparov and he fell on his face. The GMA died quickly.
@@JohnS-il1dr kasparov didnt hat the popularity or the internet. Chess playerbase is way bigger then ever and Magnus is litteraly the face of the sport atm.
Many GMs are tilted about FIDE even in streams. Magnus wanted changes for the WCC already, FIDE said they cant change it in 1 or 2 years. its been nearly 4 years now without change. Magnus created his own organisation, his own tournaments. He is a problem for FIDE and i dont think FIDE will get out of this that easy again
He can create his own tournaments and win that... Otherwise when he loses he creates drama...
@@kuldeeppandey214 What? he won nearly every FIDE tournament this year. won the WCC-tour, has 17 Fide-World-Titles
Are you a hater or just to dump to check 2 min wikipedia to find out what Carlsen won everything under FIDE?
@@Dermi_Sky That does not give him any right to say colourful words for an org where he gain those popular titles.... Without that org he is nothing...
In addition to the sartorial issue, I understand that FIDE objects to the use of the term "world championship" for any game involving chess pieces and an 8x8 grid. Would renaming the freestyle chess events "global cup", "intragalactic crown contest" or suchlike obviate any possible IPR claims that FIDE could possibly advance?
0:19 come to the world championship, and we're not going to have the best player in it lol what a joke
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Magnus was losing either way, magnus did this intentionally.....his time is up....... excuse champion 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@EmoteNationisn’t he still #1 rated player
@@EmoteNation geez professional hater man lay off get your own life stop trying to pick on Magnus
@@weeblordgaming6062 being no.1 doesn't mean he's gonna win everything..... Clearly he is trailing in competition, he was told to change for the next round still he refused, it clearly indicates that he did this intentionally
Meanwhile, 11 months ago FIDE fined WIM Anna-Maja Kazarian for wearing sneakers. FIDE labelled them as "sports sneakers" and fined her.
Pretty sure FIDE been screwing over women with bs dress code violations for a long time
they fined her. she changed
@@yashamonker
The dress code rules are certainly stupid and they need to be changed. Until they are, though, Carlsen should not act as if he's above the rules, and if he does, then I say good riddance
Well they say chess is a sport, so what's wrong with sport clothes? xd
did she cry ?
1:30 haha they are so dumb, this only leads to magnus going away from fide tournaments and never coming back - what a PR desaster 😂
Dumb rule with stupid implementation, what a combo
Smells like retaliation for freestyle chess
Biycott FUDE
When Jürgen Klopp was still the Mainz manager, he had an interview with the Hamburger SV. He showed up to the interview in jeans, which is why they didnt sign him. ~15 years later, Klopp is a Legend at 3 Clubs, won everything there is to win, and Hamburg are in the 2. Bundesliga for liek the 8th year running.
Objection, speculation
Don’t go throwing out the legend tag on everyone
I can tell you with 100% certainty he is here in Dortmund, and i get the sense people from Liverpool would say the same. So do Mainz fans for that matter. And as for the HSV part, a simple google search on that matter will bring up dozens of articles, quotes and interviews on that specific Klopp to HSV thing.
@@muzimdakane4525 Winning the Champions League makes you become a legend.
@ maybe a great but not a legend
If an event has a "dress code" to enter, then it needs to be inforced BEFORE somebody enters and not at the very end of the day.
Its like telling somebody their wheelchair is not the correct color or style for the event.
Rules are informed months in advance.
Read his comment again.@@jeelanmahkam3372
@@jeelanmahkam3372 and jeans are part of fide dress code, so? Do you see the problem?
People say Magnus needs Fide, like what? Magnus is a multi millionaire with a huge fan base. While also he has proved he is the best in chess for a lot of years! Quitting world championship himself before that drama. So what else there is for him to gain from fide? He don’t get any serious money, don’t need more fame ,his chess career is pretty much completed anyway😂😂 Unlike Fide and content creators that are struggling without him to bring numbers. Not to mention that if he leaves, a lot of big names like Hikaru will follow at some point
He agreed to change for the next day, they fined him and wanted him to go vhange immediately which is dumb, fide messed up 100%
It's not dumb at all, they gave him 3+ chances they are trying to enforce their rules and magnus on some ego power trip, told them he will comply to the rules on his own time frame, that's not how life works.
@@gredaxit’s a dumb rule either way. I’d say both parties are blowing it out of proportion but if one man is allowed to have an ego it’s the goat
@Absontchica The rule is dumb, but he agreed to the dumb rule by taking part in their event.
@@gredax I see your point, but he said he didn’t know beforehand and told the arbiter he’d change tomorrow when there was only one game left for the day but that wasn’t allowed so he left. Not great from Magnus but just as bad from them aswell
@@gredaxenforcing a dress code this strict is ridiculous period the end. Like I get chess is supposed to be a game of grace and sophistication but seriously, you are disqualifying someone over jeans worn in one game. After already fining them? Over jeans? Really? This is the era we want to live in?
That's one way to kill the game of Chess. Alot of people want to watch Magnus win or lose. People want to see the best compete no matter which player you favour.
Kicking Magnus out is such a hard blow to the chess world. He brings ALOT of attention to the chess world beacuse of his personality and his monumental talent in chess.
The game of chess will hurt beacuse of this. Immensly. Beacuse the best players in CHESS don't earn their top money in tournaments. That should be a HUGE heads up for Fide.
He himself withdrawn , and he also doesn't want to participate in blitz section, he is afraid of losing
@@rohitkevat3271right, because attacking Magnus is totally the innocent thing to do. What you're saying is so stupid. To put it into context it's like a thief breaking in to someone's house and taking all of their money, but saying it doesn't matter because he would lose the money anyway with nothing to back it up.
Even if that's true, that doesn't excuse in anyway FIDE, so... Have anything else smart to say?
Scared of losing ? The madman who beats all in the world got scared to beat everyone great exemple of missing brain 😂
@@raza2594 Magnus could have easily changed his jeans like Ian changed his shoes, rule is for everyone, it can be decided later whether the rule is correct or not, now what do you want to listen? Maybe I should say Fide should dismiss the whole tournament and give championship title to Magnus to feed his ego
@@raza2594 it's good you are trying to act smart but to put it in same context you should say that theif will give warning first and then he will come to rob house, and I think anyone who knows theif is coming will already have all preparations to take care of theif
Levy beats Magnus ❌❌
Levi's beats Magnus ✅✅
As an outsider of the chess community, dafuq is that? Is that how you people treat your best players? If they don't even care about having the best players in the competition, it says a lot about this organization. Maybe it's an opportunity for new events and organizations to show up, but I don't really care because I don't even play chess anymore. It's just sad to see this kind of thing.
It's a Canon event 🗿
How can you be a Goat without having a beef with FIDE? Fischer, Kasparov and now Carlsen, all of them were ahead of their peers in their era and had a conflict with the governing body.
Look, I think the dress code is good, but to remove a guy for wearing something borderline is missing the point. Your point at 5:00 is 100% reasonable
On norwegian tv he said to an interviewer that it’s now war(in Norwegian)
It happens in all sports where the referees insert themselves into the game by how and when the enforce their version of the rules or events.
Dress codes are classist bullshit. I'm not saying players should be allowed to enter a tournament in their swimsuits but how are jeans not OK?
FIDE is the problem and it's painfully obvious.
"The only common factor in all of your failed relationships is YOU!"
FIDE has a long and storied history of having beef with basically the greatest players of the last 50 years if not longer. Magnus, Gary, Bobby, etc...
FIDE need to change or it needs to go. Yes they do a lot of good with some of their programs, but that is not an excuse for how they seem to drive the best players away from them with their choices and behavior. People can only take so much before they push back.
I hope Magnus can lead an effort to rid us of the scourge that is the FIDE decision makers. F them indeed.
What good do they do after all?
Or maybe it's because 3 players - Fischer, Kasparov and Carlsen - are incredibly egotistical and believe themselves to be greater than the game? There have been 14 world champions and only 3 have walked away from championships and had such huge problems with FIDE.
Chess, on the cusp of breaking out into mainstream, refuses to get out of it's own way.
No, FIDE refuses to get out of the way. They shoot chess in the foot every time it starts to get popular.
We need new Body !
Eg. FIC Free International Chess .
Managed by past players , present players and chess lovers .
I just woke up and building a lego set i see GOTHAM CHESS ON A NEWS CHANNEL ON Australia i nearly dropped my lego set
What was FIDE doing when Alisher Suleymenov was wearing a watch OTB against the rules?
FIDE Handbook, E. Miscellaneous, 11.3.2 - During a game, a player is forbidden to have any electronic device not specifically approved by the arbiter in the playing venue.
Watches aren't necessarily electronic.
@@bigpoppa1234 Geans aint indecent
12:45 Michael Jackson mentioned
I read this as I happen to get to 12:45 😂
We got magnus fisher before GTA 6!!!
FR, it's happening again
Imagine if it was a rule that everyone had to wear a bow-tie because thats how they did it in the 50s.
This move by Carlsen was deliberate so the question is why? Either he didnt want to play someone that day, or he can't say something against the FIDE and he wants the public turn against them. Since Carlsen solved chess and is basically the emperor of chess, the FIDA better rethink their strategy.
Original Title: Magnus Carlsen DISQUALIFIED From World Chess Championship
that's still the title
Doubt he’s gonna change it..
@@Astroze4318 Trust me it will change
@@Astroze4318 future proofing
He will not @@Phoenix49260
Magnus sacrifices the pants
💀💀
pawnts sacrifice
Opposite actually. Sacrificed the FIDE relationship for the pants.
I like to see him with pants down. no homo
@@Natefirethemagnets Pants obviously more important.
The nba had a dress code for a long time and certain players like allen Iverson got fined all the time for how they dressed before and sometimes during games, but never once were they told they cant play. Maybe they had to cover certain tattoos during games, but they can still play. Magnus is still the biggest name in chess rn and was already issued a fine. That shouldve been it because at the end of the day fide gets much more attention on their product when magnus is involved