How to Build a Pole Barn Pt 1 - Site Prep & Layout
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- This is the first in a series on how to build a pole barn or pole garage. This video shows how to lay out the site, how to square the building, and how to mark the location of the holes.
For a complete materials list, plans, and a very cool 3D Sketchup model of this project click the link below.
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Use the 3-4-5 rule for squaring anything
I've been a builder for many years and have seen quite a fair bit of sheds. The plans in ryan's package ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxB7IXYxLzb_Ichhe45zM3Im5xfEiSp9vB have some of the nicest looking sheds i've seen in a while.
My Man, you are awesome. I have land in Northern California and land in Hawaii. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, and want to build a small home and garage on both properties. A place to get away from the urban life. I bought these raw land properties to have a place to be with nature and just get away from the city. Pretty much both are off-the-grid. I don`t have much money to spend since I`m retired. I like how you explain everything and after viewing your video, I am sure I can do this. God Bless and keep it up.
I noticed you said "Good Enough" for you and not the normal jobsite term "Close Enough". You are doing it right in my opinion and believe me that you are doing a better job than what I see on jobs I have looked at. I built 2 sheds and was cussed when I made measurements within 1/8" and famous line was "Were not building the Taj Mahal" ... well when you are the person paying for it you think you are... damn fine job
Thanks so much for the kind words and great feedback. I appreciate it! Sounds like you know the deal. There's times when you don't sweat the small stuff but there's times where the small stuff is very important three or four steps down the line. I guess the fact that I am on my own timeline takes some of the pressure off. Thanks again for watching and commenting!
Thanks for this video series, just watched video one. I'm gonna have to watch em all now.
joe hanna Thanks for watching. Glad they have grabbed your interest.
I just wanted to say...Thank you. I just finished my 40x72 building..took me about a year but watching the videos daily for couple weeks,I felt confident to attempt. Had very little help, truss day and a couple roofing weekends. Again thanks. Frank
I have to say, you made squaring up the building so simple that a math-idiot like me even understands! Now, if you'd only taught me geometry/algebra in high school, I might have been an astro physicist! Thanks for the video series.
I've watched at least 50 different videos on squaring and grade and the light just went on. You're an excellent teacher. Thanks a lot for posting this. Bookmarked, saved, liked and subed.
"Some dude about a million years ago"...LOL! It's the 3, 4 5 principle, but it really helps to see you guys walk it out and explain it. Great set of videos, love watching them.
i'm a civil engineer, this method is precise without being complicated. beautiful!
awesome video. Great job!!!
+geoff graves Thanks!
Pythagoras would be very proud of you! Brick masons use the common values of 3-4-5, measure 3' on one leg, 4' on the second leg and the diagonal will be 5'.
Yeah, 3-4-5 method can be done solo and it can be done on any length that's divisible to those numbers.
Man this popped up in my recommended videos today. I have watched it about 100 times in the past 5 years. You are a UA-cam Classic!
Hahaha. That's awesome!
@Got It Made, I cannot seem to get your website to open up and see your models. Are your models and cost spreadsheets still available?
3 4 5 , that's the easiest way to find a 90 degree corner! Simple!
For something that larg 345 won’t be accurate. 789 wouldn’t work either. Your methods for small buildings
On the corners, instead of running tapes across, you can measure one wall at 3' and another at 4' and mark both positions on the string. Then measure the marks on both strings (makes a triangle) and it should be 5'. This is called the 3,4,5 method from what I recall growing up and being taught from my parents and grandparents. Hasn't let me down yet. This can be done on the initial string as well as the string from each batter boards.
ive been doing work to an old barn built long before i was born. unfortunately the builders had no idea what they were doing. but i think the worse mistake they made was not building to 2ft centers. they built it to 2 ft inside. but then nothing was square or lvl ne ways. but the more wrk u do to set up the less wrk to the build and reno later...
thanks for your plain ,commonsense , and practical approach to this layout procedure on a building site !!! I have built several buildings and my methods are very similar to yours except that I was stuck working pretty much alone on these projects , and I used a string and plumb bob to assign my post locations . I am pretty old now , by the world's standards, and I need to build a new pole barn and haven't done any of this in many years. Your video is very encouraging and straight forward in the way you present all the information necessary to do the most tedious part of this build which is the squaring of the foundation layout . Thanks again for your video !!! I will be watching the rest of your build to fill in the gaps of what I have perhaps forgotten from my last building project and hopefully pick up a few new tricks and tips from your wisdom and experience !! Greatly appreciate a hands on practical construct !!
Great video. It's nice to get a little guidance. A little rule of thumb to use in place of A^2 + B^2 = C^2 is the 3, 4, 5 rule. Otherwise the 24 (3 x 8), 32 (4 x 8), 40 (5 x 8). I hope this makes the math easier.
+Jim Beahm Excellent! Thanks for sharing.
so far So good ! looks like you got a good plan on the Pole Barn ! Years ago i met a guy in Construction that spent many years building Pole Barns throughout Pennsylvania for many of the Nations biggest Barrel racing competitors when i knew the guy he had retired from that business and had opened a construction company that Specialized in s site maintenance and containment processes he was a interesting guy with a very much Can Do Attitude although i,left that company myself over 35 years ago and haven’t seen him since
This has helped me immensely. We don't normally do remodeling stuff, and we don't even have a dozer so we can't do dirt work. We're out here in Stilwell. Give em hell buddy!
ProsecuteThis Thanks for checking out the video. I rally appreciate and glad it helped out.
+Fantastic World Excellent Video! Excuse me for chiming in, I would love your thoughts. Have you thought about - Mahorrla Wooden Paradise Method (erm, check it on google should be there)? It is a smashing one of a kind product for building better sheds and woodworking without the hard work. Ive heard some extraordinary things about it and my mate after a lifetime of fighting got great success with it.
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Kudos for the Video! Forgive me for chiming in, I would love your initial thoughts. Have you heard the talk about - Mahorrla Wooden Paradise Method (probably on Google)? It is an awesome one of a kind product for building better sheds and woodworking minus the normal expense. Ive heard some extraordinary things about it and my old buddy Taylor finally got amazing results with it.
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Thanks for the video some brilliant advice of how to level your pole bottoms with concrete first
I dig pools for a living and find myself using some of your methods, when I’m laying out a pool I like to use rebar instead of stakes because they’re smaller in diameter, also those soft tape measures your using will slip right over the top of the rebar. Or if you need the stakes for height, center a screw in it, and it’ll be tighter!
I’m addition when you have a cross, drop a stone from the cross three to five times and that’s pretty damn close to where you want your stake/ rebar
Gonna be doing some building of my own soon. Thanks for the videos! Great job. Direct and to the point. Terry
Yes!
About to build a pole barn this week. Thanks for the tips on squaring a building!
Share your experiences with us about your build. I am planning on building one soon.
you talking about math had me CRACKING UP
Seems like all the information I have researched has said that with just sticking wood in the ground verses the slab will not last. Mainly because of rooting wood. I'm looking at a home now to buy and the barn has that exact issue.
+james hawkins True that! There's nothing like having concrete footings to keep lumber out of moisture, even for a simple pole barn. Judging by the size of the project, he can off center middle sonotube footings and still have more than enough room for the tractor entry and it'll give the structure more stability.
A good approach is to stick your inner supports in the ground as these will not be exposed to wet or weather and put your outer supports on concrete footings as these will, if in the ground, be exposed to ground moisture and more chance of exposure to weather. Early builders who put them all in the ground used cedar or other rot resistant woods. You still see many of these old barns around which speaks volumes to their construction.
You could also use post protection
really like your videos, I thoroughly enjoy them.
One correction in this part 1, you said that A^2 = 24 and B^2 = 32, but you meant A =24 and B= 32. I know it was a slip of the tongue, but it may confuse some people trying to duplicate your work.
Thanks for watching and for the compliments. I really appreciate it. Yeah, sometimes my mouth gets ahead of my mind. That's always gotten me in trouble. Ha!
I plan to build a very similar building to the pole barn you built. Your vids were very well done and I watched them all. You should be very proud of your pole barn.. Glad your tractor has a new home. The best part was your common man approach and straight talk. Thanks for the info and tips.
+Randy Kramer Thanks for watching, Randy. Glad the vids helped out!
I've always wanted to build a pole-barn one day to honor my hero the late Frank Garrett from Stilwell, OK. I thank you immensely for the tutorial.
Take care.
Monotonyman2010 Thanks for watching and commenting. Glad the vids helped out!
Thanks for the Video, been traveling around Asia over the last couple of years and noticed the Japanese don't even know what a barn is.
Although at 5:43 I think you're kinda pulling my leg buddeh.
Prank Guzzler Thanks for watching, Prank. What, that's not how the Egyptians did it? :-)
super helpful thanks for laying it out in easy terms
Thanks for the video, you explain very well a lot of others assume we already know. I'm inspired to start one!
That Barn can POWER the whole farm with one of my Wind and Solar systems on it. I have barns powering entire farms and ranches all over the US.
I want to know about your wind and solar system.
Son is starting his Boy Scout Eagle project (building a pavilion). He's going to use 4X6 PT posts. The ground he's working on is very level, but he still plans to make sure, like you, the same amount of upright is above grade. So you used concrete, could he use river rock, pack it in some? We're reading that's good for drainage on the post anyway. Thank you.
forced to do this but I am highly critical highly technical person I wish to do this by myself when you laid your head on straight you did not specify why you did not specify dimensions and when you install your post you did not say how far apart you put them you have three poles in 8 more to go in video number three that's 11 to 11 not 10 not 12 how did you do that thank you very much also if I wanted to build a Higher roof for a RV Barn how would you do that..
I've had interesting idea, for buildings with center posts, to make them taller and STRONG, like 4x4 post beams, to make a "dovetail " connection ?🤔😏
First of all, I just found this video and I wanted to see how you built the barn because my son and I are going to eventually build a pole barn at his house. I wouldn't have done the layout quite like you did, but the end results are what you need and your method gets the results. Good job!
Thanks Lynn!
Quick Question. I don't have a gee whiz level like yours. My dad was saying that since all my poles are 16ft Tall and I am going to have to cut them off when I run the top band, that I can select the level corner post and run a string level from that one to all of the others and cut each one level with the level corner pole. Is that a good way to do it without a level like yours? Thanks
Bill McCutcheon That is the way most folks do it. It's just a bit of a pain to make those cuts off a ladder but you can still do it that way.
ok i used the math you showed me and for my 30x40 my diaganol line is 50,I used the back of my house as a reference point to get the front of the barn square with it.thanks for your help and this week i should have more progress made
That's awesome. I'm glad you are getting started on your project and I am very glad to have helped out in some way. Send me some updates and pics along the way. I'd love to see your progress.
Cold? It looks beautiful there😎 nice vid
New channel name same great content! Keep up the great work man. Love the laid back teaching style.
I’m not understanding how to find “C” can anyone explain a little more? I’m horrible at math.
Awsome video's ...just found this and subscribed..... Awsome.......Thinking about building a 26x54 pole barn....or should I do a stick built.....can't make up my mind.....did I say this was an awesome video?? Yeah
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Do you need a dozer? Do you need to do dirt work when you are out in the field working?
Eric Hogan I'd love to have a dozer. I'd only use it a couple times a year but it sure would be cool to play with!
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Well...big deal, get you a dozer man and get 'er done!
Ha!
The video is great, question what do you to establish slope if you don't have one of those high tech laser level gizmo's lol, or is that something I should rent?
I just got through this serious. I really enjoyed the information. I am just getting into building and I found a lot of your information very helpful. Keep up the videos.
Im building a pole barn for my goats and Im watching your series multiple times. I don't understand what the purpose of "Squaring" the barn to the yard shed. I understand the layout detail because I screwed up and am going back over digging the post holes and using 12'x 6"X6" pressure traded posts (OH SHIT THEY"RE HEAVY!) hopefully I'l review layout and digging to avoid my first misteaks
Yup. 10 years old I’ve watched this series of video at least three times and I’ve never built a pole barn.
I don't get why you needed to square it off the barn. Is it just to make it look good in the yard?
Thanks very helpful. keep on teaching. JD. Texas
I've always used the 3/4/5 rule! Measure from the corner one string and mark 3' or any multiple of 3'. From the same corner, measure down the other string 4' or the same multiple of 4' used above and mark it. Now measure between the marks and perfect would be 5' or the same multiple used above! Adjust your angle to get exactly 5' or the multiple of 5' used between the dots. You now have a perfect right angle and corner to measure from! Repeat the process for each corner! Then measure corner to corner diagonally, to double check your work! Very fast, and all but measuring diagonally can be done by one person!
EXAMPLES:
A- line 1=3', line 2=4', between the dots = 5'
B- line 1=9', line 2=12', between the dots = 15'
I always cut and level at the top. should be interesting seeing it done from the bottom.
Let's say all your posts are a 1' longer than necessary, seems a lot faster to shoot a level line at the top rather than trying to pour level holes. Still, great video man!
❤l was looking and searching pole burn builds and landed back here again--this video is 10years old on my phone reading--but a blessing for me for 2024* l had started on my pole burn and made a mess so l came back to this video after learning l had no ideal what l was doing 😮 you have broken things down great for me. In my second maybe third go at it. Plus being in my 60ies l didn't know l needed an eye appointment and it was close to winter**l didn't stand a chance 😅 thanks for this video. I have to take down the 4 poles that l did put up and set up the triangle with string--l also want to apologize to the construction and frame workers but my money and family illness has taken my personal extra funding elsewhere 😢 so this for right now is my only option to try an diy the pole shed...thanks again🎉
If you're burying posts, you can build level off of that.
Yo..Very nice job. !! I'll be viewing all the way to the end . GREAT INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEOS THUMBS UP...AGAIN!
Watching the series again just to make sure i got it! Hoping to start my pole barn just as soon as the cold weather turns to the better! Thanks again for taking the time to do this series I have learned alot.
Hi I have watched all your videos, thanks for sharing. I have a question. We have dug holes for the barn/garage but the next steps my son is suggesting is confusing me, would you be able to give comment on this. My son says we can just lay two bags of cement in the holes, level poles and then when we have the cement poured, the Liguid will seep to the bags and they will harden in this way? How can this work and not jeopardize the level and ending structure of the garage? Thx
So if I was to build 22x24 what is the length I need diagonal in order to be square
22 wide 24 long
Really excellent. Everything is well explained. In particular, I appreciated the discussion of his reasoning for why he approached the project in the way he did. Pythagorean theorem was a good reminder. Bravo!
I think you're doing great! You got a subscriber! I learned the purpose for the exterior corners allow me to set nails/points to cross strings that coincide with my vertices. Great job! Also I almost suggest you to paint the points of your vertices or whatever you'll be digging like every 8' you mentioned so once you remove your sticks to dig, you still have some paint on the ground.
Something to consider for future if you haven't. As you said, you want to make your barn 24'x32'. Now, is that the interior or the exterior of it? Why I ask? In reality, once done you'll know where or how wide by how long interiorly and exteriorly speaking you make it but, let's say you want those measures inside your barn. If that's the case, you want to add to the 24', and the 32' the sides of your pole. Let's say you will be using 4"x4"s, then you'll go with your exterior measurements 28"x36", and you find the diagonal of that and do what you did, so from there on, your interior will get to be 24'x32'.
In houses where you'll add sheetrock, baseboards, in areas like kitchens where you'll add cabinets, you want to consider that your interior space will decrease a 5/8" for the sheetrock, a 12" deep by top cabinets I believe, a 30" deep for bottom cabinets (feel free to correct me on anything), I think 1/2" baseboards approx, sort of, future additions to your structural walls to consider so what you want in the interior, gets achieved.
What's the beeping leveling contraption and what do I put in to Google to buy one?
Can you share what kind of laser you're using? I just got some power poles from a buddy of mine that works for the local power company (12 - 16footers....) I'm going with metal trusses, and I've got to be dialed in on 23' 1" span for connection. Going to be kind of tricky with the round poles. I'm not on perfectly level ground, and need to understand how you used the level to determine height for the concrete beds in the holes.
Tom DuMay It's a Bosch model GRL250HVCK. Got it from Lowes. Good luck with your project and lemme low how it turns out!
The same thing just happend to my tractor, barn roof caved in from a high wind and now its sitting out side all summer and is still there so in the next week or 2 im getting 40x60 pole barn with cement , so all i got to do is peel off the grass and get some sand on it and i will let the pole barn people do the rest.
good video brother. I framed houses in my early 20's but a little rusty
A simpler way to get square corners is the 3-4-5 method. Measure 3 feet from corner on one string and 4 feet on the other and mark them now measure between those marks it must by 5 feet . adjust strings so it measures up this way and corner is square. you can do any multiple of this say 9-12-15 for bigger structures.
I heard he's going to sell it online soon, so you might want to get Heyzmar's Woodworking Bible. Even though it's not 100% complete it has some solid plans.
Well..... here I am. 50 years old, newly single, and I purchased land in KY with plans to build a barn home. You will be my guru! Inspire me my friend!!
Hi there, I watched your entire series. Great job on this very enlightening. I was wondering if you could share how you acquired your materials. Did you get a kit? or just buy it all individually.
thanks.
Im starting a 5 bay 60x36 x 10ft, high, tool shed by my self , been watching every diy show i can find 👍🏻
Anyone know the level he used for setting the posts. I need that.! Thanks
Great series Feddy! I used a lot of what I learned in your videos to build my shed this past winter. I am doing a short video series about how we built it. I hope it's okay that I put call out to you in my video (at around the 2:15 mark). I would love to hear what you think about the video. Semper Fidelis! ua-cam.com/video/7E9dCfmyFQ4/v-deo.html
Patrick Parson Workshop Thanks for watching, Patrick. I appreciate the views and the encouragement. Glad the series helped you find some ideas and inspiration. Great looking shed. Very unique and classy! Great job!
Your southern draw accent is hilarious
Greg Brady Ha! Thanks for watching.
Cool. The math equation, funnny! I just want a tractor like that when I grow up. Lol. Will this hold for my jacuzzi tub?
What a great start to this series I cant wait to watch the rest. we have 5 small pole barns to build. What is the name/brand of that "laser level" thing you were using at the end?
What is the brand name of the laser level used.
This is so helpful. Meanwhile, would you mind telling us what camera? The depth of field and detail and color are all so good. Thanks! Really appreciate your posts.
+Lanark Lass Thanks for watching. It's a Canon Vixia HF-11 I think.
I don't have anything to square the front of my barn against except a Privacy fence for my in ground pool which will be along the back wall. I know that the wall is square. I should be able to square using that wall right?
Bill McCutcheon Yep, that will work.
Go to WoodPrix page if you'd like to know how to build it. Great solutions for everyone I think.
I really like this guy. He is a good-ol-boy type and with he dry since of humor, his videos are really easy to follow. Thank you for making these.
How do you like that L series Kubota? I am leaning towards the 30HP B series because I need to maneuver around the wood lots on my property . . How is the L series in the woods?
I have a 3240 and it serves all my needs well. It's a little big to trek through the woods, especially with the loader on it. With the loader off it might do ok. Mine is 4WD so it can get out of a pinch and it's pretty powerful. The PTO has plenty of HP for my needs too. I think it's got about 26 HP on the PTO. It turns my big woodchipper, tiller, post hole digger, finish mower, etc. just fine. Thanks for watching!
What transit level are you using? Looking to buy one. Just wondering what you would recommend. Thank you
It's a Bosch model GRL250HVCK. Lowe’s carries it. Thanks for watching the videos. I appreciate it!
I like you video, good job!!.
Thank you so much! My husband and I really enjoyed watching your video! Super helpful and your explanations are very easy to understand! Keep them coming!
+Hollie Turner Hollie! Thanks for checking it out. Glad it helped out!
Woodglut is full of amazing tips. It helped me a lot.
Built a beautifully level and stable pole building a few years ago with your help... so now that I'm fixing to do it again, I knew what video I wanted to watch
Can you tell me more about the laser lever used and how to set it up?
I understand measure off grade. Just curious how you set up the laser to give you the readings
Excellent, excellent video! I run a small business and have used the Asq-Bsq-Csq, or "3-4-5" method to find square many times. I'm always surprised how many contractors & builders are not familiar with such a useful formula. And I'm always impressed when I see someone who isn't afraid to tackle a project on their own. I need to build a structure to serve as a shop as well as a shed for my tractor, and I'm considering a pole building. I think I'll enjoy your video series. Thank you very much.
***** Thank you for the kind words. I appreciate you watching. Glad the vids are helping out.
What leveling tool do you have? Or what is the correct name for it? Thanks
What brand and model of laser level is that you used I’m looking for one like that?
Is a building permit required? Is there a tax on this type of construction.
+Carol Raymond Not in my area.
Cole back there texting his lady. Awesome videos.
Thanks for the walk through videos finally got my building squared 41.25 by 45... Our old loft barn is in dire need of some help to that's my other project this summer it's well over 100 years old
I can build this in 7 days, 4 man crew.
@blazingnailgun, how do you wrap the string around the nail and keep it on without tying a knot?
Brilliant well explained looking forward to part two cheers Larry Sullivan London
What is the brand and model of the survey equipment you used to measure the height?
Could you roughly give me a price on building one of these?
IHR Check out Part 8 of the series. I talk about costs, etc. I also have a materials list available for download. The link is in the video description box.
I built a 30 x 64 x 16 pole barn (still working on somewhat) about 8 yrs ago, 1st major thing I built. I recommend not using nylon tapes, only steel, cloth or nylon long tapes stretch and will give you in-accurate measurements. I learned this the hard way as my diagonals were off 1.5 inches
Thanks for watching and commenting. Great tip. Thanks for sharing!
They might have been off, but they were off the same, which means you were square right ;)
Your series on building a pole barn is outstanding. I've watched all of them at least a half dozen times. Over the years I've built numerous things. However, at 60 years of age I'm still learning and I learned a lot from your videos. Many of the techniques you discussed were used in my 40'x60' barn in current development. Like you I'm building it alone and in my own time. It would've been finished but for wet winter weather which slowed the process. Thank you for taking time to share your efforts. They greatly contributed to the success of my project.
08Maxwell1 Thanks for the great feedback and kind words. I appreciate you watching. Lemme know how yours turns out!