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The inclusion of Tolkiens notes on the matter, something very few, potentially almost no one knew about, is nearly heroism level good. It was like hearing a speech from the General at the end of the war.
@@cambrasher3875 agreed. I'm like almost inspired to.…, no. Maybe? also think for myself, too? I vaguely recall there's these things called books. OMG there's one, across the room. Rally!!! The general is calling to you- get up! Read, men!! Read! Think!! Speak unto your blasted last breath!! or the darkness becomes you and the ones you love are but blood and earth beneath your cowering knees!
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@@TheLittlePlatoon Well if you got a recommendation for a good reliable brain repair shop that doesn't cost you a literal arm and a leg, I would appreciate it. My brain is struggling with all the... 'entertainment' being released these last couple of years, and I haven't been able to get it fixed yet.
Indeed. Likewise if the characters they wanted to use didn't suit their narrative purposes. There were SO many battles and stories they COULD have told, many of which could have been FANTASTIC. But they couldn't get off the track in their mind. They HAD to mess with Galadriel, Elrond, and everyone else we'd heard of. And mess with them in ways that were certainly not intended. They knew exactly what they wanted to do and would not be deterred. The seeds of their failure were planted from the very beginning.
It's clear they thought they could do better than Tolkien, that they could "improve" his works. That they could just interject their lore, simplify it, convert and twist it and bastardise it with glee. And do it without backlash, considering the other franchises didn't have as much backlash in the past. Obviously years of our franchises and beloved stories getting raped would force a massive reaction from even the normies that would blow RoP away. And when the people reacted against Amazon, well, as you can see by the many, many "evil cannot create" and "my favourite part" quotes among other things, it shows that everything, everyone, has a breaking point, even if it wasn't the very protective Tolkien lovers and even normies. The amount of lore breaking, confused narratives and out of focus arcs alone would be open to hated. Peter Jackson succeeded because he did as close as possible an adaption he could with The Lord of the Rings, and even then there were misgivings. That trilogy is beloved because they respected Tolkien and his works.
The frustrating thing is, they could’ve used the information they have, the appendices set something during this time. But not handled the major events. Have another elf on a quest similar to that they describe Galadriel having gone on where she travels about the entire world of middle earth, seeing all sorts of, coincidentally, racially, diverse people from many diverse cultures.
0:52 "And by mini essay I mean a section longer than most peoples videos" And I wouldn't want it any other way, you beautiful purveyor of eloquent essays
thank you. my wife was in surgery. this 5 hours of madness kept me sane while waiting. surgery went great. i loved your channel before. it is, hands down, the best thing on youtube, even when you are wrong. you already had my unwavering loyalty. you now have my sincere thanks and my deep affection. carry on.
The quote about the scriptwriter "skimming through the book at a great pace, and then constructing the script from partly confused memories and with the minimum of references back to the original" is so beautiful and fits Rings of Power really neatly. Hack writers are the same as they used to be, just now they are getting actual billion dollar contracts.
@@TheLittlePlatoon I loved when you did that in your Little Mermaid and Peter Pan reviews. If you ever do a review of Disney's Pinocchio remake, I would happily watch it. Looking forward to Snow White just to see your - and others' - review.
To be fair, "it's different in the books" isn't necessarily a correct critique. It's fine to change things, and in some cases is an improvement. It's only a fair critique if the adaptation does something bad when it was done well in the book. There's plenty of examples of annoying fanboys only criticising because its different, when the change is either perfectly fine or sometimes better than the original.
I hope your review of season 2 comes soon. I am *burning* to hear your response to the orcs firing a trebuchet at a mountain…instead of the castle wall they’re ostensibly sieging.
After all these years, hearing the passage of the Oath of Fëanor gives me chills. The Valar were not some vague entity the Noldor suspected about, they've met them(at least in some shape or form) and lived in what is basically paradise. Yet they swore a terrible oath of pure pride and ultimate defiance. Whatever happened later, one must bow before such balls of pure mythril
The reported account in the Silmarillion narrative is already chill-inducing, and the "full" version included in the History of Middle Earth is even better: "Be he foe or friend, be he foul or clean, brood of Morgoth or bright Vala, Elda or Maia or Aftercomer, Man yet unborn upon Middle-earth, neither law, nor love, nor league of swords, dread nor danger, not Doom itself, shall defend him from Fëanor, and Fëanor's kin, whoso hideth or hoardeth, or in hand taketh, finding keepeth or afar casteth a Silmaril. This swear we all: death we will deal him ere Day's ending, woe unto world's end! Our word hear thou, Eru Allfather! To the everlasting Darkness doom us if our deed faileth. On the holy mountain hear in witness and our vow remember, Manwë and Varda!"
@@herickbrandelero2293 Wait, I thought that was what the Valar were ordered to do by Iluvitar? Didn't he tell them to go out and find his children and bring them over?
Elrond talking to his wife one night, "you know i kissed your mom once, its a bit complicated, but she was a good kisser." Arwen and Aragorn gotta sit there and listen to that story with gramma Galadriel right there trying to eat her soup. gandalf sitting there desperately trying to light his pipe rather then be involved in this awkward situation at dinner. bilbo trying to cover frodo's ears to save him from the scandal, sam is horrified while merry and pipin think its funny as shit. meanwhile celeborn is just not in a good mood at the moment, and glorfindel just left the room out of embarrassment
Meanwhile Galadrial deciding she wanted to bang Sauron even after finding out he was the dark lord, then having a suspicious convo with Adar, sacker of Eregion in this nightmare reality, then Elrond, makes her husband wonder if he made a good decision at staying with his whore wife, and worried his granddaughter Arwen is the same (and even Elronds daughter) due to genetics.
Wow, no wonder this took over two years. 5+ hours for just three eps seems like a good solid Platoon length. So I guess we can expect S2 to be finished by my 40th birthday in 2027. Seriously, though, I'm impressed you managed to get this one out while S2 is still going. Should help with the algorithm a lot.;)
I just realized that Galadriels fury over her brothers death also runs into trouble with the lore. Of course, losing him to the halls of the dead is tragic, but she literally knows he’s there. And that she will eventually see him again. He’s with every other dead elf. He’s basically fine
Platoon's video is never late, nor is it early. It arrives precisely when Platoon means to. In all seriousness, nothing constitutes a watch not to mention a re-watch of this show.
2:28:00 Well as Random once said about the Númenorians "they have suddenly eagle for their electorial system, a deep sea creature for court and a blossom tree for the general of their non-existant army"
I just want you to know that these videos really help me question and examine my own writing to look for places of improvement. I've self-taught myself how to write, and there are always small things I'm having to fix.
I did technical summaries, press releases, and after action reports for 5th Army for a few years as a side job. There was always a guy 10 yrs senior that could make it better...in that case, shorter and more informative... ensuring no fool can misunderstand, misinterpret, etc. It could cause huge problems if that happened. Good luck!
I love Tolkien's attention to detaul in crafting his world. Truly inspiring. It makes it all the more strange how Rings of Power fails to adapt his characters and stories sufficiently despite the abundance of details he originally provided.
They aren't failing to adapt, because they aren't trying to adapt. They have no interest in what Tolkein wrote, they want to write their own thing. But they are low paid 35-40 year old cat ladies and funko pop collectors writing as a committee, so it sucks ass.
I'm only 6 minutes in, and your point about the other franchises being less obvious when they are desecrated because they were always piecemeal endeavors whereas The Lord of the Rings, The Hobbit, et al. Are fully and completely Tolkien is a point that I made in a comment to a European Lore video last week. I am greatly looking forward to the rest of the 5 hours and 5 minutes of this video.
Of the professor’s work was a mock’ry made His very legacy betrayed By those descended of his line And his wondrous world was made entwined With dreadful writers who loudly dared To take their fanfic and compared It with that of Tolkien’s lore His fantastic stories and tales of yore And dismiss did they the outraged cries Of those who saw it and despised This desecration of something great Saying the reason for all the hate Was the evil utterings of twisted minds, Bigots angered that they did find That non-white actors were on screen And that women led some scenes No mention of how they ruined lore Or wrecked the characters made long before Either of them was given birth And still now they plunder Middle Earth.
@@botchgoddess No. I'm honestly unsure how you could even draw that conclusion from what what I'd written. Unless you're doing a bit that's just going over my head at the moment.
This piece of verse is reasonably good despite the common misuse of the term "dreadful". I do wonder though ,why this show (ROP), which can be rightly critiqued for its imposition of modern US values on a preexisting fantasy tale, is so hated by people whose commentary always carries a subtle undercurrent of misogyny, racism and a yearning for conservatism. Even here (in the video above) I thought I would find a well judged, considered, and analytical critique of Rings of Power, but sadly within the first ten minutes there is a jab at President Joe Biden and a snippet of him falling down. What does that have to do with the critical analysis of a TV serial? The answer is absolutely nothing, except to confirm the political bias of "The little poltroon" and therefore to establish that this is not good faith criticism but merely a five hour video essay outlining the inherent biases that form the world view of the author.
@@botchgoddess the jab is that nowadays you can make something so utterly horrendous like Rings of Power and then blame "racist mysoginistic fans" for not liking it because they are "racist and mysoginistic." Only because you shove a few black actors there and make the lead a woman does not mean that the writing will be good. People who are mad about it for legitimate reasons are then dissmissed as far right extremists or something...
after enjoying platoons little appetizer, im really hyped for when maulers a bit more indepth 32h review of season 1 eventually comes in the late 2030s 🤣 great work platoon. as always, it was a pleasure
I am calm. Perfectly calm. Why do you think I am not calm? No, really. The tic and the shaking are normal. Perhaps some coffee while we wait would do me good, though.
A friend of mine who was a guitarist for some well known rock groups in the 60s told me about when he met one of the big music producer he said something about the artistic quality of the music/messages. The producer said matter of factly that it has nothing to do about art. He's interested in troughs of swill for pigs. If you can find the slop that all pigs will run to guzzle w/o pause for the cheapest ingredients then that's how he wins. (my friend really hated that but he had a role similar to a writer/actor) I've been reminded of that frequently during this era of RoP, Agatha etc etc. Hoping that the producers realize woke slop is repellant to all but the few mutant pigs! Great long form review LP!
@TheLittlePlatoon I am very fond of your work, good sir. I just took joy from the subtextual shoutout to Random Film Talk at 3:47:37. An alliance between you and he would be an achievement of the age - “by all accounts, it makes sense!” 😊
Star Trek (TOS) episode 322 "The Savage Curtain" explained, in very simple terms, the difference between good and evil. I was 5 years old at the time I first saw it, and I got it. When the alien questioned Kirk regarding the difference between good (Kirk, Spock, Lincoln, and Surak) and evil (Col. Green, Kahless, Genghis Khan and Zora). They use the same methods, and achieve the same results, so what's the difference? Kirk says that the alien set up the methods and the goals. Then Kirk asks, What did you promise team evil? What they wanted most... POWER. You offered me the lives of my crew. If the writers of RoP won't read Tolkien, take an hour and watch a Star Trek or two through the eyes of a 5 year old. It may be simple, but then, being simple themselves, at least they might actually begin to understand that there IS a difference between good and evil. You can't adapt a morality tale while ignoring, or being oblivious to morality.
Ah! But it is often the case that the evil people are the ones most interested in obscuring that difference. I think the Hollywood writers are covertly telling on themselves... and certainly that is their reputation.
The Numenoreans long life does not come from "interactions" with the Eldar. The first Numenorean King was Elros the brother of Elrond who were both Half Elven. They were given the choice as to which race they wanted to belong Elrond chose firstborn and Elros chose Man but he had Elven blood so lived longer. Also the 3 houses of the Edain were much longer lived than Men of later ages
But wouldn’t Elros’ elven blood only affect his descendants? Are you saying ALL Numenoreans are his descendants? Because… yikes. Also, that’s a pretty bad genetic bottleneck there…
@@StarWarsomania no i did say the three houses of the Edain were longer lived than men of later ages, but Elros' kin were also granted longer lives That said if you are going to apply Genetic Theory to fantasy fiction then its all gonna fall apart
@@barrygreen7108 well, if you’re going to claim something like “longer life due to your ancestry”, I’m pretty sure genetics is already in play. Maybe I’m not clear on the “three houses of Edain”, I was picturing like three families of nobles. (I’m like, a mid-tier Tolkien fan. I’ve read the Hobbit and LOTR, but I literally could not get into the Silmarillion. I tried, I did, I fell asleep…) I knew Aragorn had a longer life than other Gondorians, who themselves were longer-lived than those from Rohan, and it was the trace of elven blood that let Aragorn live to be like 200. But I was under the impression this only affected the line of Kings, and that Numenoreans were simply longer-lived than other humans, entirely unrelated to Elros…
@@StarWarsomania Well reading the Silmarillion would help but Aragorns longer life comes indirectly from Elven blood but more from the fact his lineage is direct from Elendil and that bloodline. Its not solely down to descending from Elros but his choice to remain mortal is a contrbuting factor as well as his Elven blood. the fact that it appears to be just Aragorn shows that there just arent many left with the pure bloodline. Halbarad would be example of another but i suspect he would not be too distantly related to Aragorn but i dont think its written anywhere
@TheLittlePlatoon Thanks so much for your content. In this installment, in addition to your review of eps 4,5 & 6. I thoroughly enjoyed in particular, your wonderful summary of The Silmarillion and Tolkiens letters on Zimmermanns potential adaptation. Also, I got many good laughs from "The Ballad of Waldred", the "Horse Hoist" / Velociraptor Feeder in Numenor, the Angry Floor Boy and last but not least. the "Laurel and Hardy Skit" 😅 An absolutely enjoyable experience. Thanks again. You deserve so many more subscribers. Well done mate.
Funny thing, those aren’t wolves. Those things are Andrewsarchus. An actual hoofed predator related to whales from the Pleistocene. This show is doing what the Hobbit did, having Pleistocene animals appear in Middle Earth. The Hobbit had a Megaloceros appear as Thranduil’s mount.
Had the Zimmerman script been filmed, the English would see resulting movie the way we Poles think of 1962 adaptation of With Fire and Sword. That's a cannonball-size bullet to dodge.
@@dinofelis9343 Sadly, yes. An Italian-French production, also known as Invasion 1700. So faithful the only thing it lacked was probably John Wayne playing a Mongol.
I put the video up (30 minutes late) so I had something to listen to as I walked 4km to the cinema for mystery movie night. I watched the previews. Adds. The first half of Longing, a 15 minute break, and the second part of the movie. Then spend a few minutes talking about the movie with a staff member. And now I'm walking back and the video is still going. Well done.
No, your English ancestors used cranes to get horses on ships. It is the best way to get them in the ship's hold as horses really don't like stairs and don't corner well.
Welp...time to goon over LPs voice for a good 4 hours. In all sincerity, this is astounding work. And you're a gentleman and scholar for subjecting yourself to Rings of Power once again for us.
Now, I'm not a film expert in any way, shape, or form, but... Does anyone else get the feeling that this show has not been storyboarded very well, or perhaps even at all? It's as if there is no narrative flow, no interconnectivity between scenes. I fully realise that TV and films are shot out of order and then spliced together later in editing, but RoP gives the impression that they shot all the scenes COMPLETELY independent of each other without any forethought or understanding of where they might slot into the story... I think his might explain why time and distance feel meaningless, why Theo was apparently hiding in a well for twelve hours, why Celebrimbor and Elrond teleport back and forth to Eregion instantly. It's as if a child hastily constructed it all from random building blocks without understanding what they were supposed to be building.
I’m very grateful for this. Truly, the best analysis of this abominable show I’ve seen, both in relation to Tolkien and on the show’s own merits (or ‘merits’ I should say). Unfortunately, it brings out some strong feelings against certain Tolkien scholars whom I used to trust and respect.
I love your recounting of this.. I don't care if you have been silent because when you finally speak out, i just feel immense relief that I am not as stupid as people are telling me I am for having SO many questions about this show. I first read Tolkien's work when I was 24, I am now 73. I tried to switch my brain off, I really did, but clearly I am not as mindless as some people want me to be. 😢
rings of power is likely the worse written fanfiction i have ever seen, and im including a fanfiction for star trek written by a 12 year old in the 90's for his friends weekend gaming get together in his moms basement I was subjected to reading and pretending to love.
I don’t know if it can qualify as fan fiction though. Even when it’s offensively bad, fan fiction comes from a place of love for the story, characters, world or whatever. Shows like RoP, Halo, and wheel of amazon are written by people who despise the original works and want to “fix” them while punishing the fans of the real characters by inverting them or destroying them in some way. I’m not sure what to call it
Insightful and full of valid criticisms as always. But honestly, the humour oh my god- Mighty Morffyd Power Elf, Angry Floor Boy, Sailor Twink, Young Ned and Prince Harry, McMuffin induced catastrophes.. had my in stitches. Thank you, sir!
I can't blame you for taking so long to get these videos out. Watching the Rings of Power in this level of detail has to be trying and exhausting. But, I am happy they are out.
Thanks for these reviews. They are excellent. Had almost forgotten how much of a lore and spirit destroying entity that fifth episode was, but also forgotten how that Elrond/Durin exchange about Earendil was quite touching and well done, particularly sitting here preparing my father's funeral. One more chance, indeed.
Your previous RoP videos talking abt the lore breaks actually made me really interested in the actual story and start the Silmarillion again! (i was like twelve the first time i tried and did not even get three pages in) its been great so far so thank u
I do wonder just how many of us tried to read it at that age and bounced straight off the Music of the Ainur. Thankfully on the second attempt I braved through and got to What Feanor Did after which it gets much more readable.
@@Justaperson-on4mxamen. I read the first two wheel of time books for the first time and found I had a hard time remembering or grasping certain details, until I started listening to an audio book.
I know there’s a seismic gigaton of crap to shovel through, but an element that keeps slapping me in the face is how physically lame the Numenoreans are. They’re supposed to average 7 feet tall, with their women almost as tall, and Elendil closer to 8 feet. With the insane budget this show has, they actually could have depicted that. Instead, they’re so pathetic this miniature version of Galadrial can slap around multiple of their soldiers. Pitiful
I absolutely despise this show. Not because it butchered the lore, but because of the damage it did to future projects. Amazon first threw hundreds of millions of dollars to purchase the rights to a tiny bit of Tolkien's writings, and then made a terrible show that nobody watched. They had almost no film making experience, and way too much money. Now, no film maker will dare touch Tolkien's writings, because the price for the IP has been set, and they absolutely failed. I dreamed of a well-made series about Beren and Luthien, Numenor, Melkor and the Valar, the Silmarils and exile of the Noldor... so much good stuff could have been made. Now, none of that will ever get made in my lifetime. Man, I wish HBO had done it instead. They actually make good shows.
Yep. I had hope after GOT that the Silmarillion would not be seen as an impossible project. Now Amazon, in their hubris, stupidity, and incompetence, has poisoned the well.
That’s a good thing. You don’t t want Hollywood or the entertainment industry in general touching his books. Those people are uniformly disgusting and would all despise everything Tolkien loved.
Amazon should’ve taken all the money for RoP and put it in Wheel of Time instead. And then they should’ve hired the best crew possible, and a few book readers to make sure the actual story made it to the screen. They could’ve had the cultural phenomenon they seem to want had they simply told the real story with the real characters. At least 12 episodes a season, probably more, a ten year show of greatness. And that would’ve set the stage for a proper Tolkien scenario.
@TheLittlePlatoon, what ten year hiatus? The man has been working . He's stated he has over 900 pages of Winds written and that even so it's not really done and that even so its not complete. Also, that he now intends to split it into two volumes. Between that the editing work he does, writing the lore for Elden Ring and making appearances, I just don't understand why people like to characterize George as sort of sitting on his hands all this time.
I love this, thank you for doing it. My favorite possesions are my complete Tolkien book collection, and especially pictures by JRR Tolkien which I got for Christmas in 1981. The man was a genius and his son was the best steward of his legacy that anyone could hope to have. Writing a book in the trenches of WW1 is the ultimate boss move. A man among men.
Finally!!! 🍻🍻🍻🍻ps… thank you Platoon for giving me gut busting laughter and an all around great narration to listen to whilst installing steel roofing.
1:28:53 that’s so freakin funny in hindsight, talking about she’s the only to see/know the truth all while she is probably meeting up with Sauron for dinner late
You know someone is passionate about something when a five hour video isn’t enough, but also when they have the $230 set of the Folio editions of LotR.
It's funny that the show makes no mention that Ar-Pharazon is the cousin of Miriel. He's the son of Tar-Palantir's brother Gimilkhad. He illegally married his first cousin Miriel to usurp the throne. Bezos wanted his own Game of Thrones but so far the show has left this bit of incestuous political scandal out.
Between you and Random Film Talk every facet of this shows tragic existence is explored. Wonderful work. I am greatly enjoying your commentary and critique.
18:45 I love that scene. Don't get me wrong, it makes no sense, but I do love it, because it gave me the opportunity to say, "Whoever wrote this clearly has never read The Horse and His Boy." a reference that I am unreasonably proud of.
Thank you for finishing S1. You give such excellent analyses and with great humor , it is a delicious treat to watch your videos. Just a reminder though ,because views are important to youtubers, it will take us 2 to 3 days to finish the video, so if you want to gauge how many watched it please wait a bit.
I'm glad the editor seems to have had my same reaction to the statement at 3:44:52. >Mfw when I was more excited about a Little Platoon self-reference than the entirety of the "lore" introduced by RoP
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"Do you have any plans?"
"....well, I did."
The inclusion of Tolkiens notes on the matter, something very few, potentially almost no one knew about, is nearly heroism level good. It was like hearing a speech from the General at the end of the war.
Not nearly, high-key.👏
@@cambrasher3875 agreed. I'm like almost inspired to.…, no. Maybe? also think for myself, too? I vaguely recall there's these things called books. OMG there's one, across the room. Rally!!! The general is calling to you- get up! Read, men!! Read! Think!! Speak unto your blasted last breath!! or the darkness becomes you and the ones you love are but blood and earth beneath your cowering knees!
Just Some Guy is a good dude to watch if you want someone who regularly references Tolkien's notes and interviews. The man even speaks Elvish.
"From the lowest dungeon to the highest peak I fought the Bezos of Amazon. Until at last, I threw down his abomination and smout its ruin across the far reaches of the Internet."
Darkness took me, and each review was a a long as a life age of the Earth.
Y E S
although, shouldn't it properly be the Amazon of Bezos, or perhaps the Prime of Amazon?
"But was it really him you fought, or... merely his servant?"
Oh good, I was worried season 2 caused an aneurysm to burst in your brain.
Oh, it did. I’m running on my backup brain at the moment until I get the main one back from the shop.
@@TheLittlePlatoon Well if you got a recommendation for a good reliable brain repair shop that doesn't cost you a literal arm and a leg, I would appreciate it. My brain is struggling with all the... 'entertainment' being released these last couple of years, and I haven't been able to get it fixed yet.
I live for the day they LP gets you on his podcast.
28:50 THANK YOU! Finally someone explains that the palantir are used for Skype and not fortune telling! 😂
If they couldn’t buy the rights to the silmarillion then they shouldn’t have made a show about events set in the silmarillion in the first place.
Correct.
Indeed. Likewise if the characters they wanted to use didn't suit their narrative purposes. There were SO many battles and stories they COULD have told, many of which could have been FANTASTIC. But they couldn't get off the track in their mind. They HAD to mess with Galadriel, Elrond, and everyone else we'd heard of. And mess with them in ways that were certainly not intended. They knew exactly what they wanted to do and would not be deterred. The seeds of their failure were planted from the very beginning.
Once upon a time I'd have given teeth to see the fall of Arnor or the Kinstrife on screen. Recent events have disabused me of that wish.
It's clear they thought they could do better than Tolkien, that they could "improve" his works. That they could just interject their lore, simplify it, convert and twist it and bastardise it with glee. And do it without backlash, considering the other franchises didn't have as much backlash in the past. Obviously years of our franchises and beloved stories getting raped would force a massive reaction from even the normies that would blow RoP away. And when the people reacted against Amazon, well, as you can see by the many, many "evil cannot create" and "my favourite part" quotes among other things, it shows that everything, everyone, has a breaking point, even if it wasn't the very protective Tolkien lovers and even normies. The amount of lore breaking, confused narratives and out of focus arcs alone would be open to hated. Peter Jackson succeeded because he did as close as possible an adaption he could with The Lord of the Rings, and even then there were misgivings. That trilogy is beloved because they respected Tolkien and his works.
The frustrating thing is, they could’ve used the information they have, the appendices set something during this time. But not handled the major events.
Have another elf on a quest similar to that they describe Galadriel having gone on where she travels about the entire world of middle earth, seeing all sorts of, coincidentally, racially, diverse people from many diverse cultures.
Joining any other premier 3hrs in: "Oh man I'm late, its almost over!"
Joining a Little Platoon Premiere 3hrs in: "Oh good I'm still early."
Joining a MauLer Premiere 3hrs in: "Have we left the first act yet?"
@@miep3934 3 hours? Ah, I've got time to make dinner before the introduction finishes
😂silly
I'm watching it in chunks.
0:52 "And by mini essay I mean a section longer than most peoples videos"
And I wouldn't want it any other way, you beautiful purveyor of eloquent essays
thank you. my wife was in surgery. this 5 hours of madness kept me sane while waiting. surgery went great. i loved your channel before. it is, hands down, the best thing on youtube, even when you are wrong. you already had my unwavering loyalty. you now have my sincere thanks and my deep affection. carry on.
Best wishes to Mrs. leonardpimentel5865
Hope she's feeling better man.
@@xyber6 everything worked out great. Thank you so much. 😊
Oh yeah, that can be very boring I have been there before. Good luck to you and your wife going forward!
@@leonardpimentel5865That's great news. God bless you and your wife
The quote about the scriptwriter "skimming through the book at a great pace, and then constructing the script from partly confused memories and with the minimum of references back to the original" is so beautiful and fits Rings of Power really neatly. Hack writers are the same as they used to be, just now they are getting actual billion dollar contracts.
I am halfway through this and I understand why this took you so long. You did the hard work. This is worthy of respect.
Thank you!
Watched minutes of Rings of Power criticism: 792
Watched minutes of Rings of Power: 0
If I only tally Platoon and Random Film Talk, I'm probably at 40hours of analysis videos. I only watched 1.5 episodes of season 1.
@@HNCS2006 Somehow made it to four. Worst decision of my life
You and everybody else who love Tolkien and cannot stand the abomination that is the RoP.
Hahahaha it’s me
Silence of this channel during season 2 was deafening.. so glad we are getting the platoons analysis on this abomination 😅
He's commenting the first 4 episodes with the EFAP crew if you want to hear some of his takes.
I think this still focuses on season 1.
Very excited to watch it either way
@@Jasper_Silvais Rags still leading the discussion? I like him but I can’t stand his narrations. MauLer is so much better
Strap in, it's gonna be several weeks of Rings of Power videos - I've got ALL of S2 to do after this.
@@TheLittlePlatoon yippee 😊
I love it when you read from the actual sources (Silmarillion). Few rarely do in their critiques.
It’s to keep me sane, as much as anything!
@@TheLittlePlatoon I loved when you did that in your Little Mermaid and Peter Pan reviews. If you ever do a review of Disney's Pinocchio remake, I would happily watch it. Looking forward to Snow White just to see your - and others' - review.
To be fair, "it's different in the books" isn't necessarily a correct critique. It's fine to change things, and in some cases is an improvement. It's only a fair critique if the adaptation does something bad when it was done well in the book. There's plenty of examples of annoying fanboys only criticising because its different, when the change is either perfectly fine or sometimes better than the original.
@@equidistanthoneyjoy7600platoon spent the entire beginning of the video talking about just that.. why repeat it here?
@@Razzlion I wrote the comment at the end, I just forgot.
I love your sense of humour, but my favourite gag is most certainly "Meanwhile, thousands of miles away". I don't know why it makes me laugh so much.
I hope your review of season 2 comes soon. I am *burning* to hear your response to the orcs firing a trebuchet at a mountain…instead of the castle wall they’re ostensibly sieging.
All in good time!
And the fact that their rickety medieval siege engines are more effective than modern artillery.
@lintzy398 You can hear some of his thoughts on the most recent EFAPs.
A review is ne'er to late nor early, it arrives precisely when intended!
lmao
*_"Patience is a virtue"_*
After all these years, hearing the passage of the Oath of Fëanor gives me chills. The Valar were not some vague entity the Noldor suspected about, they've met them(at least in some shape or form) and lived in what is basically paradise. Yet they swore a terrible oath of pure pride and ultimate defiance. Whatever happened later, one must bow before such balls of pure mythril
@@Eisenwulf666 I was very Impress3d to hear the entire ring verse in black speech. I read the Silmarillion almost once a year. I am a 1st age girl
The reported account in the Silmarillion narrative is already chill-inducing, and the "full" version included in the History of Middle Earth is even better:
"Be he foe or friend, be he foul or clean,
brood of Morgoth or bright Vala,
Elda or Maia or Aftercomer,
Man yet unborn upon Middle-earth,
neither law, nor love, nor league of swords,
dread nor danger, not Doom itself,
shall defend him from Fëanor, and Fëanor's kin,
whoso hideth or hoardeth, or in hand taketh,
finding keepeth or afar casteth
a Silmaril. This swear we all:
death we will deal him ere Day's ending,
woe unto world's end! Our word hear thou,
Eru Allfather! To the everlasting
Darkness doom us if our deed faileth.
On the holy mountain hear in witness
and our vow remember, Manwë and Varda!"
what Feanor did was wrong but at the same time the decision of the Valar to bring the Elves to Valinor was also wrong
@@herickbrandelero2293 Wait, I thought that was what the Valar were ordered to do by Iluvitar? Didn't he tell them to go out and find his children and bring them over?
@@billjacobs521 no they were never order to bring them to Valinor, they thought it was the best way to preserve them from Melkor
This is exactly the kind of longman stuff I'm looking for. I tuned in for the premiere, and I'm already going to watch it all over again.
Simon Tolkien is known by many names, the most astute of which is Judas
Elrond talking to his wife one night, "you know i kissed your mom once, its a bit complicated, but she was a good kisser." Arwen and Aragorn gotta sit there and listen to that story with gramma Galadriel right there trying to eat her soup. gandalf sitting there desperately trying to light his pipe rather then be involved in this awkward situation at dinner. bilbo trying to cover frodo's ears to save him from the scandal, sam is horrified while merry and pipin think its funny as shit. meanwhile celeborn is just not in a good mood at the moment, and glorfindel just left the room out of embarrassment
Wack
I wish I understood why "meanwhile celeborn is just not in a good mood at the moment" made me laugh so hard.
Celebrian: "He's probably thinking about his failure to stop Isildur from destroying the One Ring."
Elrond: *Replays his kiss with Galadrrriel
Galadriel tells the Fellowship "I used to be an adventurer like you until I took an arrow to the knee"
Meanwhile Galadrial deciding she wanted to bang Sauron even after finding out he was the dark lord, then having a suspicious convo with Adar, sacker of Eregion in this nightmare reality, then Elrond, makes her husband wonder if he made a good decision at staying with his whore wife, and worried his granddaughter Arwen is the same (and even Elronds daughter) due to genetics.
Wow, no wonder this took over two years. 5+ hours for just three eps seems like a good solid Platoon length. So I guess we can expect S2 to be finished by my 40th birthday in 2027.
Seriously, though, I'm impressed you managed to get this one out while S2 is still going. Should help with the algorithm a lot.;)
The combination of words "Good solid Platoon length" has as Mordin puts it "unpleasant implications"
Tolkien would be *furious* about Rings of Power, but he would probably be screaming his head off when *that* kiss happened.
It will never cease to amaze me that the watchword of our age is "squandered potential".
1:55:28 “…somehow we’re still not done…”
The ideal caption for all EFAP, Mauler, and Little Platoon videos, and I am glad for it!
I just realized that Galadriels fury over her brothers death also runs into trouble with the lore. Of course, losing him to the halls of the dead is tragic, but she literally knows he’s there. And that she will eventually see him again. He’s with every other dead elf. He’s basically fine
Platoon's fashionably late Rings of Power video is the only way anyone would rewatch this season.
Platoon's video is never late, nor is it early. It arrives precisely when Platoon means to. In all seriousness, nothing constitutes a watch not to mention a re-watch of this show.
2:28:00 Well as Random once said about the Númenorians "they have suddenly eagle for their electorial system, a deep sea creature for court and a blossom tree for the general of their non-existant army"
I just want you to know that these videos really help me question and examine my own writing to look for places of improvement. I've self-taught myself how to write, and there are always small things I'm having to fix.
I did technical summaries, press releases, and after action reports for 5th Army for a few years as a side job. There was always a guy 10 yrs senior that could make it better...in that case, shorter and more informative... ensuring no fool can misunderstand, misinterpret, etc. It could cause huge problems if that happened. Good luck!
I love Tolkien's attention to detaul in crafting his world. Truly inspiring.
It makes it all the more strange how Rings of Power fails to adapt his characters and stories sufficiently despite the abundance of details he originally provided.
They aren't failing to adapt, because they aren't trying to adapt. They have no interest in what Tolkein wrote, they want to write their own thing. But they are low paid 35-40 year old cat ladies and funko pop collectors writing as a committee, so it sucks ass.
I'm only 6 minutes in, and your point about the other franchises being less obvious when they are desecrated because they were always piecemeal endeavors whereas The Lord of the Rings, The Hobbit, et al. Are fully and completely Tolkien is a point that I made in a comment to a European Lore video last week. I am greatly looking forward to the rest of the 5 hours and 5 minutes of this video.
Of the professor’s work was a mock’ry made
His very legacy betrayed
By those descended of his line
And his wondrous world was made entwined
With dreadful writers who loudly dared
To take their fanfic and compared
It with that of Tolkien’s lore
His fantastic stories and tales of yore
And dismiss did they the outraged cries
Of those who saw it and despised
This desecration of something great
Saying the reason for all the hate
Was the evil utterings of twisted minds,
Bigots angered that they did find
That non-white actors were on screen
And that women led some scenes
No mention of how they ruined lore
Or wrecked the characters made long before
Either of them was given birth
And still now they plunder Middle Earth.
So.. you're mad about the black people?
@@botchgoddess No.
I'm honestly unsure how you could even draw that conclusion from what what I'd written. Unless you're doing a bit that's just going over my head at the moment.
This piece of verse is reasonably good despite the common misuse of the term "dreadful". I do wonder though ,why this show (ROP), which can be rightly critiqued for its imposition of modern US values on a preexisting fantasy tale, is so hated by people whose commentary always carries a subtle undercurrent of misogyny, racism and a yearning for conservatism. Even here (in the video above) I thought I would find a well judged, considered, and analytical critique of Rings of Power, but sadly within the first ten minutes there is a jab at President Joe Biden and a snippet of him falling down. What does that have to do with the critical analysis of a TV serial? The answer is absolutely nothing, except to confirm the political bias of "The little poltroon" and therefore to establish that this is not good faith criticism but merely a five hour video essay outlining the inherent biases that form the world view of the author.
@@botchgoddess the jab is that nowadays you can make something so utterly horrendous like Rings of Power and then blame "racist mysoginistic fans" for not liking it because they are "racist and mysoginistic." Only because you shove a few black actors there and make the lead a woman does not mean that the writing will be good. People who are mad about it for legitimate reasons are then dissmissed as far right extremists or something...
@@julianking4793”yearning for conservatism” is what Tolkien is all about, lol. He was about as anti-modernity as they come.
Wait, you wrote for the financial times? They were under paying you. Good on you and Efap for helping kill journalism.
at least it wasn't the economist or the telegraph
So it begins.
I accidentally zoomed in on the thumbnail pic on my phone and now I’m going to have nightmares.
after enjoying platoons little appetizer, im really hyped for when maulers a bit more indepth 32h review of season 1 eventually comes in the late 2030s 🤣 great work platoon. as always, it was a pleasure
"jump scare orcs with the f*** sun" lmao
Oh my god! Okay, it's happening. Everybody stay calm. Everybody stay calm! STAY FUCKING CALM! EVERYBODY FUCKING CALM DOWN!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
I am calm. Perfectly calm. Why do you think I am not calm? No, really. The tic and the shaking are normal.
Perhaps some coffee while we wait would do me good, though.
WHOOOO TOLD YOU I WAS NOTTTTTTT CAAAALLLLMMMM!!!!!!
Dumbledore said calmly
I was right. I was right! I TOLD YOU I WAS RIGHT!!!!
A friend of mine who was a guitarist for some well known rock groups in the 60s told me about when he met one of the big music producer he said something about the artistic quality of the music/messages. The producer said matter of factly that it has nothing to do about art. He's interested in troughs of swill for pigs. If you can find the slop that all pigs will run to guzzle w/o pause for the cheapest ingredients then that's how he wins. (my friend really hated that but he had a role similar to a writer/actor) I've been reminded of that frequently during this era of RoP, Agatha etc etc. Hoping that the producers realize woke slop is repellant to all but the few mutant pigs! Great long form review LP!
It’s as valuable as pop music ever was.
Agatha is pretty good
That was an actually rather good poem at ~1:05:00.👏👏👏
@TheLittlePlatoon I am very fond of your work, good sir. I just took joy from the subtextual shoutout to Random Film Talk at 3:47:37. An alliance between you and he would be an achievement of the age - “by all accounts, it makes sense!” 😊
Feminem and Afrock are the names I associate the character with and I can thank rando for that
Femjnem and Afrock; to be remembered alongside the likes of Gaston, Ladylass and Lieutenant Ree!
Woohoo! Awaiting the little platoon's review is the entire reason I get excited when Disney or Amazon announces another upcoming dumpster fire.
Star Trek (TOS) episode 322 "The Savage Curtain" explained, in very simple terms, the difference between good and evil. I was 5 years old at the time I first saw it, and I got it. When the alien questioned Kirk regarding the difference between good (Kirk, Spock, Lincoln, and Surak) and evil (Col. Green, Kahless, Genghis Khan and Zora). They use the same methods, and achieve the same results, so what's the difference? Kirk says that the alien set up the methods and the goals. Then Kirk asks, What did you promise team evil? What they wanted most... POWER. You offered me the lives of my crew. If the writers of RoP won't read Tolkien, take an hour and watch a Star Trek or two through the eyes of a 5 year old. It may be simple, but then, being simple themselves, at least they might actually begin to understand that there IS a difference between good and evil. You can't adapt a morality tale while ignoring, or being oblivious to morality.
Ah! But it is often the case that the evil people are the ones most interested in obscuring that difference. I think the Hollywood writers are covertly telling on themselves... and certainly that is their reputation.
"Everybody's Tolkien at me,
I don't hear a word they're sayin'.
Only the echoes of my mind."
- The 'Rings of Power' showrunners
Such a treat. Not sure how I missed this… buckling up to binge
Glad I could be of service to you, good Platoon!
Excellent work!
3:44:52 Not hearing you say this is the only thing I'm sad about loosing The Acolyte.
The Numenoreans long life does not come from "interactions" with the Eldar. The first Numenorean King was Elros the brother of Elrond who were both Half Elven. They were given the choice as to which race they wanted to belong Elrond chose firstborn and Elros chose Man but he had Elven blood so lived longer. Also the 3 houses of the Edain were much longer lived than Men of later ages
But wouldn’t Elros’ elven blood only affect his descendants? Are you saying ALL Numenoreans are his descendants? Because… yikes. Also, that’s a pretty bad genetic bottleneck there…
@@StarWarsomania no i did say the three houses of the Edain were longer lived than men of later ages, but Elros' kin were also granted longer lives That said if you are going to apply Genetic Theory to fantasy fiction then its all gonna fall apart
@@barrygreen7108 well, if you’re going to claim something like “longer life due to your ancestry”, I’m pretty sure genetics is already in play.
Maybe I’m not clear on the “three houses of Edain”, I was picturing like three families of nobles. (I’m like, a mid-tier Tolkien fan. I’ve read the Hobbit and LOTR, but I literally could not get into the Silmarillion. I tried, I did, I fell asleep…)
I knew Aragorn had a longer life than other Gondorians, who themselves were longer-lived than those from Rohan, and it was the trace of elven blood that let Aragorn live to be like 200. But I was under the impression this only affected the line of Kings, and that Numenoreans were simply longer-lived than other humans, entirely unrelated to Elros…
@@StarWarsomania Well reading the Silmarillion would help but Aragorns longer life comes indirectly from Elven blood but more from the fact his lineage is direct from Elendil and that bloodline. Its not solely down to descending from Elros but his choice to remain mortal is a contrbuting factor as well as his Elven blood. the fact that it appears to be just Aragorn shows that there just arent many left with the pure bloodline. Halbarad would be example of another but i suspect he would not be too distantly related to Aragorn but i dont think its written anywhere
@TheLittlePlatoon Thanks so much for your content. In this installment, in addition to your review of eps 4,5 & 6. I thoroughly enjoyed in particular, your wonderful summary of The Silmarillion and Tolkiens letters on Zimmermanns potential adaptation. Also, I got many good laughs from "The Ballad of Waldred", the "Horse Hoist" / Velociraptor Feeder in Numenor, the Angry Floor Boy and last but not least. the "Laurel and Hardy Skit" 😅 An absolutely enjoyable experience. Thanks again. You deserve so many more subscribers. Well done mate.
That’s very kind, and I’m glad you enjoyed it!
Funny thing, those aren’t wolves. Those things are Andrewsarchus. An actual hoofed predator related to whales from the Pleistocene. This show is doing what the Hobbit did, having Pleistocene animals appear in Middle Earth. The Hobbit had a Megaloceros appear as Thranduil’s mount.
I knew they looked familiar! I've been killed by them a lot in Predators: Ice Age lol
Had the Zimmerman script been filmed, the English would see resulting movie the way we Poles think of 1962 adaptation of With Fire and Sword.
That's a cannonball-size bullet to dodge.
There is a 1962 adaptation of With Fire and Sword?
@@dinofelis9343 Sadly, yes. An Italian-French production, also known as Invasion 1700. So faithful the only thing it lacked was probably John Wayne playing a Mongol.
well, there goes my sunday night...
There should be a super cut of this, with just the stuff about Tolkien.
I put the video up (30 minutes late) so I had something to listen to as I walked 4km to the cinema for mystery movie night. I watched the previews. Adds. The first half of Longing, a 15 minute break, and the second part of the movie. Then spend a few minutes talking about the movie with a staff member. And now I'm walking back and the video is still going.
Well done.
My ears are prepped for hours of bliss! Listening to the dulcet tones of LP while he flays this garbage show is a dream come true! 🥰
There is no curse in orcish, elfish or the tongues of men for this treachery.
"Elvish Modafcka, Do u speak it?" 😂😂😂
Finally….I thought you committed harakiri with a butter knife watching the show….glad you didn’t 😊❤
This better be looong... 😊
It's about 5 hours
@@The_shady_puffer longer
Don't forget girthy.
'Tis what she proclaimed
And hard
I vote we all pitch in and kickstart an audiobook of @thelittleplatoon reading everything Tolkien wrote
I'd go for it.
tfw you're vibin but she says there's a storm within her
"Don't look at me, I'm not tapping that." -Tempest
No, your English ancestors used cranes to get horses on ships. It is the best way to get them in the ship's hold as horses really don't like stairs and don't corner well.
How many people shouted "ISILDUR!!" when they saw the title?
I was shouting WALDREG!!
I whispered it.
Forty minutes in and I realise this is the first season not the second. I watched the first season but clearly memory holed it.
Well, this'll help me get through the workday tomorrow - thanks for the 5 hours of content Platoon 🕶️👉👉
My grandma always said: "No matter what they tell you in school, Tolkien was a she/he/her/they/it trans-gay-pansexual-non binary-black-asian-woman"...
Welp...time to goon over LPs voice for a good 4 hours.
In all sincerity, this is astounding work. And you're a gentleman and scholar for subjecting yourself to Rings of Power once again for us.
New bed and snacks video just dropped.
a shortlived discount Mulan took twice as many arrows as Boromir and was still able to fight 😮
That must be some powerful rice in Middle Earth 🍚
She put all her level up stats in HP
@@Jasper_Silva Human Papillomavirus?
@@watch-Dominion-2018 Hit points, health points, etc. Dunno if that was a joke or not so I assumed you didnt know.
She propably had both the power of Eru and Anime in her side.
Now, I'm not a film expert in any way, shape, or form, but... Does anyone else get the feeling that this show has not been storyboarded very well, or perhaps even at all?
It's as if there is no narrative flow, no interconnectivity between scenes.
I fully realise that TV and films are shot out of order and then spliced together later in editing, but RoP gives the impression that they shot all the scenes COMPLETELY independent of each other without any forethought or understanding of where they might slot into the story...
I think his might explain why time and distance feel meaningless, why Theo was apparently hiding in a well for twelve hours, why Celebrimbor and Elrond teleport back and forth to Eregion instantly.
It's as if a child hastily constructed it all from random building blocks without understanding what they were supposed to be building.
Storyboarded with Temu post-it notes that had crappy glue, so they kept falling off and the cleaning lady would stick them back up.
@@Kyle-sr6jm 😂
5 hours....
Dear lord. "Miny essay", he says....
Guess I shall get to working on my stuff while listening.
I’m very grateful for this. Truly, the best analysis of this abominable show I’ve seen, both in relation to Tolkien and on the show’s own merits (or ‘merits’ I should say). Unfortunately, it brings out some strong feelings against certain Tolkien scholars whom I used to trust and respect.
Also, sorely missed you on the last RoP EFAP.
It's happening, oh my god, everybody keep calm❤❤❤❤
Nah. I'm opening champagne for this one
I just realized that Queen-Regent Míriel & her father are a 1 to 1 analogy for Kamala Harris & Joe Biden.
yeah...they took r jobs...and beard boy has 2 creepy kids....see what they did there....
😂😂😂😂😂
I love your recounting of this.. I don't care if you have been silent because when you finally speak out, i just feel immense relief that I am not as stupid as people are telling me I am for having SO many questions about this show. I first read Tolkien's work when I was 24, I am now 73. I tried to switch my brain off, I really did, but clearly I am not as mindless as some people want me to be. 😢
rings of power is likely the worse written fanfiction i have ever seen, and im including a fanfiction for star trek written by a 12 year old in the 90's for his friends weekend gaming get together in his moms basement I was subjected to reading and pretending to love.
I don’t know if it can qualify as fan fiction though.
Even when it’s offensively bad, fan fiction comes from a place of love for the story, characters, world or whatever. Shows like RoP, Halo, and wheel of amazon are written by people who despise the original works and want to “fix” them while punishing the fans of the real characters by inverting them or destroying them in some way.
I’m not sure what to call it
@@theabhorrentchef7226 A franchise forced on egotistical recent college grads because the name alone sells
@@theabhorrentchef7226 Hatefiction? Let’s go with hatefiction.
I’ve read My Little Pony fanfics smarter than ROP
Insightful and full of valid criticisms as always. But honestly, the humour oh my god- Mighty Morffyd Power Elf, Angry Floor Boy, Sailor Twink, Young Ned and Prince Harry, McMuffin induced catastrophes.. had my in stitches. Thank you, sir!
I can't blame you for taking so long to get these videos out. Watching the Rings of Power in this level of detail has to be trying and exhausting. But, I am happy they are out.
Thanks for these reviews. They are excellent. Had almost forgotten how much of a lore and spirit destroying entity that fifth episode was, but also forgotten how that Elrond/Durin exchange about Earendil was quite touching and well done, particularly sitting here preparing my father's funeral. One more chance, indeed.
Your previous RoP videos talking abt the lore breaks actually made me really interested in the actual story and start the Silmarillion again! (i was like twelve the first time i tried and did not even get three pages in) its been great so far so thank u
Glad to hear it! I found it easier to get through the audiobook, but that’s partly a time-saving thing.
@@TheLittlePlatoon yeah for some reason I understand things better audiobook version so that’s what I’m doing
I do wonder just how many of us tried to read it at that age and bounced straight off the Music of the Ainur. Thankfully on the second attempt I braved through and got to What Feanor Did after which it gets much more readable.
@@Justaperson-on4mxamen. I read the first two wheel of time books for the first time and found I had a hard time remembering or grasping certain details, until I started listening to an audio book.
I know there’s a seismic gigaton of crap to shovel through, but an element that keeps slapping me in the face is how physically lame the Numenoreans are. They’re supposed to average 7 feet tall, with their women almost as tall, and Elendil closer to 8 feet. With the insane budget this show has, they actually could have depicted that. Instead, they’re so pathetic this miniature version of Galadrial can slap around multiple of their soldiers. Pitiful
yeah she weighs what..107?
Noldor should be tall too. Especially someone who is part Vanya like Galadriel.
Me: where’s the rings of power video?
Little platoon: you’ve already seen it.
Me: we’ve seen one, yes. What about the second rings of power video?
Jeff bezos: no!
I absolutely despise this show. Not because it butchered the lore, but because of the damage it did to future projects.
Amazon first threw hundreds of millions of dollars to purchase the rights to a tiny bit of Tolkien's writings, and then made a terrible show that nobody watched. They had almost no film making experience, and way too much money. Now, no film maker will dare touch Tolkien's writings, because the price for the IP has been set, and they absolutely failed.
I dreamed of a well-made series about Beren and Luthien, Numenor, Melkor and the Valar, the Silmarils and exile of the Noldor... so much good stuff could have been made. Now, none of that will ever get made in my lifetime.
Man, I wish HBO had done it instead. They actually make good shows.
Yep.
I had hope after GOT that the Silmarillion would not be seen as an impossible project.
Now Amazon, in their hubris, stupidity, and incompetence, has poisoned the well.
That’s a good thing. You don’t t want Hollywood or the entertainment industry in general touching his books. Those people are uniformly disgusting and would all despise everything Tolkien loved.
Warner Brothers is producing stuff. They are goign to do a duology about hunt for gollum..
Amazon should’ve taken all the money for RoP and put it in Wheel of Time instead. And then they should’ve hired the best crew possible, and a few book readers to make sure the actual story made it to the screen.
They could’ve had the cultural phenomenon they seem to want had they simply told the real story with the real characters. At least 12 episodes a season, probably more, a ten year show of greatness. And that would’ve set the stage for a proper Tolkien scenario.
TV, Movies, and video games...done...guess Ill pretend its 1948 and be Andy Griffith...go fishing
Still out before Winds of Winter
Really I should just be taking a 10-year hiatus because fascism or something.
@@TheLittlePlatoon No, you do that for your Series 2 review.
@TheLittlePlatoon, what ten year hiatus? The man has been working . He's stated he has over 900 pages of Winds written and that even so it's not really done and that even so its not complete. Also, that he now intends to split it into two volumes. Between that the editing work he does, writing the lore for Elden Ring and making appearances, I just don't understand why people like to characterize George as sort of sitting on his hands all this time.
I love this, thank you for doing it. My favorite possesions are my complete Tolkien book collection, and especially pictures by JRR Tolkien which I got for Christmas in 1981. The man was a genius and his son was the best steward of his legacy that anyone could hope to have. Writing a book in the trenches of WW1 is the ultimate boss move. A man among men.
Sadly Simon Tolkien, his grandson, sold the legacy to the highest bidder as soon as he got his hands on it...
Oh you really do have a will made of steel. Fair play. 👏
I really "looove" the implication of don lemons hair that there is a barbeeshop somewhere in the elvish town. Its Sooo immersive!
Finally!!! 🍻🍻🍻🍻ps… thank you Platoon for giving me gut busting laughter and an all around great narration to listen to whilst installing steel roofing.
YES. I've been waiting for the completion of your S1 analysis. I need this after the atrocity that is S2.
I thought you'd forgotten and just gave up hope. Thank you for keeping your word.
1:28:53 that’s so freakin funny in hindsight, talking about she’s the only to see/know the truth all while she is probably meeting up with Sauron for dinner late
In my country it is difficult to have a spicy chicken sandwich promo without brawls breaking out among elves.
Now we can stop nagging you about season 1 to nag you about Dune.
and after that, Velma
You know someone is passionate about something when a five hour video isn’t enough, but also when they have the $230 set of the Folio editions of LotR.
It's funny that the show makes no mention that Ar-Pharazon is the cousin of Miriel. He's the son of Tar-Palantir's brother Gimilkhad. He illegally married his first cousin Miriel to usurp the throne. Bezos wanted his own Game of Thrones but so far the show has left this bit of incestuous political scandal out.
They make it up by having Elrond kiss his future mother-in-law
Between you and Random Film Talk every facet of this shows tragic existence is explored. Wonderful work. I am greatly enjoying your commentary and critique.
18:45
I love that scene. Don't get me wrong, it makes no sense, but I do love it, because it gave me the opportunity to say, "Whoever wrote this clearly has never read The Horse and His Boy." a reference that I am unreasonably proud of.
Thank you for finishing S1. You give such excellent analyses and with great humor , it is a delicious treat to watch your videos. Just a reminder though ,because views are important to youtubers, it will take us 2 to 3 days to finish the video, so if you want to gauge how many watched it please wait a bit.
I'm glad the editor seems to have had my same reaction to the statement at 3:44:52.
>Mfw when I was more excited about a Little Platoon self-reference than the entirety of the "lore" introduced by RoP