I had a copy of this tape, played it through the Ramones PA system during sound check, I never saw so many pissed off crew members, they wanted to destroy my tape, I yanked it out of the cassette deck just in time. Was great fun for me, TG RULE
I'm the god that shot my primordial jizz into the sea of nothingness that became the universe, and Throbbing Gristle makes me think that wank session was worth it.
Myself and friend were at this gig, we were still at school and had got into TG through my sister's boyfriend. Took the train from our home town a couple of hours away but arrived several hours too early and hung about outside the somewhat grim-looking Russell Club. Out of the blue , TG drove up in a transit van so we said hello and Gen invited us in to watch them soundcheck , chatted for a bit until some guy appeared (I think it must have been Tony Wilson) and chivvied us out until the doors opened properly. As far as I recall, it was a pretty low-key affair, no support band and a mixed audience watching with mild interest . I don't think it was a sell-out by any means - we were tickled that a ticket cost (not just) £1.30 . I think The Pop Group were playing in town that night as well. TG used an ioniser on the stage which would periodically spark and give out an electrical smell like you get on the London Underground and I remember a digital clock which counted down and cut the sound exactly after one hour. The following year we saw them live in Leeds, had our photo taken with Monte Cazazza and my friend gave him a Rowntree's fruit gum.
@@johncassells6146 thanks for the recollections. I have been researching this gig as a tangent to some other TG research and writing. My understanding from a reliable source is that Tony Wilson wasn't in attendance - I realise that Johnny Hamster's original recollection doesn't suggest TW was there, just assumes that the person who ushered them out might have been TW. Also, and this is important, I have it on good authority that Ian Curtis (and other JD members) did NOT attend, even though most of the autobiographies by ex-JD members suggest that TG were something that interested them. My understanding is that IC and Genesis met at Hemel Hempstead later in 1979 when JD were support on Buzzcocks tour. There has been a lot written by Genesis, including his/her recent autobiography published just on his/her death, that there was a strong bond between Genesis and IC. This is open to dispute. I see a few posts below start to suggest that IC was at this Factory gig. I'm wondering if you have an answer on this! Thank you.
@@iantrowell9123 @Ian Trowell you might be in the know already, but there is a Psychic TV song which Genesis apparently dedicated to Ian Curtis after his departure. It's titled "I.C. Water" and although Genesis sings it as "I see water", the writing of the song title is clearly a reference to Curtis by using his initials. I'm lacking enough background information to either confirm or deny that Genesis and Curis ever worked together or had a bond between them, but the latter of the two sure has been of big inspiration to the other (similar as with Brian Jones from the Rolling Stones, whom Genesis also dedicated the PTV song "Godstar" post-mortem.
Being able to go back and listen to live TG gigs like this is an absolute blessing. The fact that TG was not only able to start Industrial from basically nothing, but improvise a significant chunk of their material is absolutely astounding. Jazz Punk from the bowels of Satan's arsehole in the best way possible.
Better late than never, my friend. The back catalogue is extensive, and their subsequent post-TG projects (Psychic TV, Coil, Chris and Cosey) all merit some attention.
I was raised on TG, even took my mom to see them, just before they disbanded in’81. They were a fascinating little band, and, I believe responsible for inspiring hundreds of kids to go out there and DIY, they are sorely missed
A Facebook friend just informed me Ian Curtis was at this show. Very likely to be true so it's cool to imagine what influence this might have had on his work.
I've never heard this one and 1979 is my favourite year for TG... 1980's good too. Oooh.... it's got His Arm Was Her Leg.... first TG song I ever heard... opening track to Assume Power Focus... NOICE!
Works good, ain't it? Try THE YOUNG GOD'S from Switzerland, they are influenced by TG, and pioneers too...little more melodic, but not sooo much! I promise, you'll not regret😉😜😂🎧👏👏👏
@@powerplantplanetuniverse5945 you should check out MY LIFE WITH THE THRILL KILL KULT if thats too mild try THE ELECTRIC HELL FIRE CLUB still too mainstream ALIEN SEX FIEND you'll love one or all of them
"His Arm Was Her Leg" reminds me a lot of a live version of Einstürzende Neubauten's "Zeichnungen des Patienten O.T.", specifically this recording: /watch?v=kDNLA4-1YtY It also remind me of Gastarbeiterdub
A really good live album, with haunting sounds...spooky industrial rock, that kicks ass...some of the best songs on one album, that is something😂🤩🌟🌋🌃🐉🐲😉👍
Not much direct Rock, but a helluva lot of Hellfire and punk rebellion taken to its logical semi-extreme without fully going down the Whitehouse/Merzbow full-fledged noise-über-alles approach. There's still enough groove/rhythm and comprehensible vocals to keep it grounded like a lot of rock, though.
@@enimapodofficial6618 I like Heldon, Richard Pinhas, Merzbow & Faust...same as TG. They all teared down the walls between genres and pushed themself to the limits. And further! Velvet Underground once started to change our way to hear music. Modern classic music to, with their art concrete attitude. Music is all that surrounds us...if we melt this with rock, we have the music of tomorrow! TG were early exponents of a new spirit and did exactly this...changing the terms forever. An open door for young artists that want to be more than just pop morron sheeps of the industry! In that meaning they are all heroes. With bravery & strength into the unknown.
i read in RESEARCH that Hamburger Lady was inspired by a letter a friend wrote to Gen about his new job as an intern in a psychiatric hospital where he took care of a patient they called hambuger lady he described was like a ham if you burned it and sat it up in a potty chair to greet you every evening.
The letter was fiction. It was sent to Gen, but the content was completely made up. Doesn't mean that there has never been at least one burn victim just like The Hamburger Lady though. Also have a listen to "Slow Death" by The Leather Nun- tackles the same subject matter, but from the POV of the burn victim. It's more structured like an actual song, but that still doesn't diminish it's disturbing and nauseating content.
@a w Indeed, mid-80's to early 90's, didn't play a lot of TG, but Psychic TV (With Gen & Sleazy,) were played quite a bit in thee clubs, quite a bit of MDA, psychedelics & what would later become "raves." It was a wonderful time to be a teen & DJ.
Hello we are throbbing gristle were from Dalles tx I'm Fred dorkus and they are the poker chips from Kansas City that's so clever those fools had no idea what was coming I'm sure the audience shit their pants 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
i forgot which show i was listening to but one of them ON UA-cam had a sample from the Charlie Manson USA movie from 1973 where they are talking about "behind the barn...who has the bigger dick...i have a ribber rabber jib jab zib zab..." ect...
@@morgellon9449 Indeed; Drugs took the opposite course of action. Then, however, Al. Jourginson claimed to be the one who gave Tool members acid, so the weirder substances decided to bugger off & go out with Tool instead, going, _"Screw this guy, he spins too many weird yarns & sounds like an ash-tray on crack... but these guys over here, they make songs about weirdoes having sex with lazy-boy sofas & recliners & use a buncha' weird time signatures..."_ _"...then they write songs about really-deep subject matter, and that's cool, too."_ Edit: ...actually, the thing with Al. _might_ have potentially happened on some level or another: loudwire.com/tool-danny-carey-wild-events-ministry-al-jourgensen/ Also, for the sake of clarification, Ministry had some badass material after With Sympathy, and a decent while after that... Al's got a bit of an ego, though.
@@enimapodofficial6618 I'm not too familiar with either band, but I do like them. I've heard some of the new Tool, and it was pretty good. I saw them play about six years ago and they were amazingly good, live. I guess AJ did get more heavily into h or whatever, yeah? Or maybe it was the h that got into him, as you're suggesting. Interesting theory. Perhaps there's something to it. A rather Burroughsian concept. Here: ua-cam.com/video/7Ar00KGOO8k/v-deo.html
As a nonbinary person I really wish I could also celebrate gen as a nonbinary icon… but since according to cosey’s book they have been abusive towards her, I don’t feel comfortable with that. I do love the music though.
![Throbbing Gristle - At the Ajanta Cinema, Derby [FULL ALBUM]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/8eiIBY1sfzw/mqdefault.jpg)
I had a copy of this tape, played it through the Ramones PA system during sound check, I never saw so many pissed off crew members, they wanted to destroy my tape, I yanked it out of the cassette deck just in time. Was great fun for me, TG RULE
Christ alive, the irony....
A bunch of no talent disgruntled arseholes sounds like. With no sense of humor at all. I guess they secretly wanted to hear some Lynrd Skynyrd.
@@bangoreagles904 Nothing ironic about it at all really....
@@awarewolves1712 don’t you see the humour?
@@bangoreagles904 Yeah, I do. I was in a strange place the other night, thought I'd deleted all replies.
I'm a 500 million year old trilobite from the Cambrian period, and I like this band.
Nice one, Bryan the 500 million year old trilobite!
I hate these young Cambrians pretending to like older music like this. 500 million years old? That's basically Ordovician!
I'm the god that shot my primordial jizz into the sea of nothingness that became the universe, and Throbbing Gristle makes me think that wank session was worth it.
Mag auch keine Trilobiten, doch noch mehr mag ich Menschen, die sich bewegen.
Myself and friend were at this gig, we were still at school and had got into TG through my sister's boyfriend. Took the train from our home town a couple of hours away but arrived several hours too early and hung about outside the somewhat grim-looking Russell Club.
Out of the blue , TG drove up in a transit van so we said hello and Gen invited us in to watch them soundcheck , chatted for a bit until some guy appeared (I think it must have been Tony Wilson) and chivvied us out until the doors opened properly.
As far as I recall, it was a pretty low-key affair, no support band and a mixed audience watching with mild interest . I don't think it was a sell-out by any means - we were tickled that a ticket cost (not just) £1.30 . I think The Pop Group were playing in town that night as well.
TG used an ioniser on the stage which would periodically spark and give out an electrical smell like you get on the London Underground and I remember a digital clock which counted down and cut the sound exactly after one hour.
The following year we saw them live in Leeds, had our photo taken with Monte Cazazza and my friend gave him a Rowntree's fruit gum.
@@johncassells6146 thanks for the recollections. I have been researching this gig as a tangent to some other TG research and writing. My understanding from a reliable source is that Tony Wilson wasn't in attendance - I realise that Johnny Hamster's original recollection doesn't suggest TW was there, just assumes that the person who ushered them out might have been TW.
Also, and this is important, I have it on good authority that Ian Curtis (and other JD members) did NOT attend, even though most of the autobiographies by ex-JD members suggest that TG were something that interested them. My understanding is that IC and Genesis met at Hemel Hempstead later in 1979 when JD were support on Buzzcocks tour. There has been a lot written by Genesis, including his/her recent autobiography published just on his/her death, that there was a strong bond between Genesis and IC. This is open to dispute. I see a few posts below start to suggest that IC was at this Factory gig. I'm wondering if you have an answer on this! Thank you.
@@johncassells6146 thank you for this reply - it's really useful...
@@iantrowell9123 @Ian Trowell you might be in the know already, but there is a Psychic TV song which Genesis apparently dedicated to Ian Curtis after his departure. It's titled "I.C. Water" and although Genesis sings it as "I see water", the writing of the song title is clearly a reference to Curtis by using his initials. I'm lacking enough background information to either confirm or deny that Genesis and Curis ever worked together or had a bond between them, but the latter of the two sure has been of big inspiration to the other (similar as with Brian Jones from the Rolling Stones, whom Genesis also dedicated the PTV song "Godstar" post-mortem.
Hi Dad
@@chadmoonstone7486Hello Sun
One of the most unique groups I've ever listened to.
Man I love their live presence, Gen is so funny.
was*
dying young is a Presentation
dying old is a Presentation too
living in beetween
the best to do
This album has the Best version of Hamburger Lady
Oh, yes, you are right....
Absolutely
Being able to go back and listen to live TG gigs like this is an absolute blessing. The fact that TG was not only able to start Industrial from basically nothing, but improvise a significant chunk of their material is absolutely astounding.
Jazz Punk from the bowels of Satan's arsehole in the best way possible.
So creepy.
Like being alone in a warehouse on a cloudy day in England and not knowing what’s going to happen next.
So gloomy and mysterious.. I love it
almost ashamed to admit but i never heard of this band. Glad i did discover them!! Great sound
It's never too late.
Just discovered this band in 2021 at the age of 54!
me too, same age.
Good
Never too late.
Better late than never, my friend. The back catalogue is extensive, and their subsequent post-TG projects (Psychic TV, Coil, Chris and Cosey) all merit some attention.
I was raised on TG, even took my mom to see them, just before they disbanded in’81. They were a fascinating little band, and, I believe responsible for inspiring hundreds of kids to go out there and DIY, they are sorely missed
I still come back to this regularly. Probably my favorite TG output of all, a solid piece of history and painfully relevant to this minute.
I never tire of those sounds like metal passing through metal, then a soft tone, then a haunting droning sound. Amazing.
Hamburger Lady is the most terrifying "song" I've ever heard.
It reminds me so much of the song Rectum by Thomas Bangalter from the soundtrack of Irréversible (Danger) film.
It's pretty soothing.
Throbbing Gristle es lo mejor que me ha pasado
Always pushing the boundaries 🍄🏴☠️
R.I.Peace Genesis Breyer P-Orridge 💔
It still sounds 100 years ahead of the pack
Still is 100 years ahead of the pack…that fact wont ever change!
"From Dallas, Texas" Ha Ha Ha Very Funny Very Friendly indeed.
This is trve indvstrial
their best live tape in my opinion
R.I.P a true legend, we’ll miss you girl
They were a band don't forget
Incredible upload. Weapons Training as an opener, what a perfect terror dirge to set the scene
Hamburger lady is a very nice track.
Holy crap, I had this tape. Lost it years ago. Nice!
This album needs a vinyl pressing A.S.A.P. !!!!!!!!!!
A Facebook friend just informed me Ian Curtis was at this show. Very likely to be true so it's cool to imagine what influence this might have had on his work.
Cooper Clark wld have been there too.
Ian Curtis knew TG well. He was a friend of Gens, in fact, one of the last phone calls he made before his suicide was allegedly to Gen.
Underrated ,miles ahead of his time ,pretty awesome !
@a w it was the future
*her
@@neetwithajob *h/er
very very underrated, only 14k views
@@neetwithajobit's their actually
I've never heard this one and 1979 is my favourite year for TG... 1980's good too. Oooh.... it's got His Arm Was Her Leg.... first TG song I ever heard... opening track to Assume Power Focus... NOICE!
i can taste the conveyor belt
ϟ L-Ov-Ǝ TЯ23丰 Back in no time... until then, will miss my brother Sleazy & sister Gen. Rest In Power. Gen & Jaye, Peter & Jhonn together again.
Would kill for a vinyl repressing! One of the greatest fucking albums of all time!
Truly amazing stuff.
Pretty sure Ian Curtis was at this gig.
Ide guess you are right but then less than one year later he was dead very tragic loss of another legend REST IN POWER IC/GP
This is fuckin amazing
Very fitting atmosphere
Some of this sounds like Gen yelling through a fan like we all used to do as kids.
N ice, very cool, thanks for sharing.
Me taking a long vacation from Pop Music and refreshing my brain with something different.
Works good, ain't it? Try THE YOUNG GOD'S from Switzerland, they are influenced by TG, and pioneers too...little more melodic, but not sooo much! I promise, you'll not regret😉😜😂🎧👏👏👏
@@powerplantplanetuniverse5945 you should check out MY LIFE WITH THE THRILL KILL KULT if thats too mild try THE ELECTRIC HELL FIRE CLUB still too mainstream ALIEN SEX FIEND you'll love one or all of them
Based.
lol
Spooky, that's exactly what I'm doing!
GENESIS was past away2020.
Real R.I.P..........TueM.
got 16 of these live TG tapes -ALL really good - they make late ptv sound lame.e24
"His Arm Was Her Leg" reminds me a lot of a live version of Einstürzende Neubauten's "Zeichnungen des Patienten O.T.", specifically this recording: /watch?v=kDNLA4-1YtY
It also remind me of Gastarbeiterdub
Fantastic stuff
Crap !!
Thanks for the upload. This is a gem
Very fitting atmosphere for the world right now
Dark and gloomy and depressing
General Patton
R.I.P.
The "Swans Are Dead" of Throbbing Gristle's career.
Helpless child and the sound on that live album!!!
what does this mean
@@afterceasetoexist Their swansong, a high note to end on. Swans Are Dead is a live album by Swans right before they broke up initially.
@@Vixen5290_but they broke up like 2 years after this
@@afterceasetoexist It means my knowledge of live experimental releases was limited in 2021.
Miel para los oidos.
My favorite live of TG
Recorded live.. yes, sounds like it.
Perfeito
The live version of What A Day absolutely destroys the studio version.
Still out there all on their own .
Banda con sonido vanguardista RIP Genesis
Amazing
I went to a friend's house in 1985 and he played TG vinyl in 11th grade...never recovered!🤪 Find me at 1890 Media
True experimental Musick.!!
TueM.
the Cat's Pyjamas
A really good live album, with haunting sounds...spooky industrial rock, that kicks ass...some of the best songs on one album, that is something😂🤩🌟🌋🌃🐉🐲😉👍
Not much direct Rock, but a helluva lot of Hellfire and punk rebellion taken to its logical semi-extreme without fully going down the Whitehouse/Merzbow full-fledged noise-über-alles approach.
There's still enough groove/rhythm and comprehensible vocals to keep it grounded like a lot of rock, though.
@@enimapodofficial6618 I like Heldon, Richard Pinhas, Merzbow & Faust...same as TG. They all teared down the walls between genres and pushed themself to the limits. And further! Velvet Underground once started to change our way to hear music. Modern classic music to, with their art concrete attitude. Music is all that surrounds us...if we melt this with rock, we have the music of tomorrow! TG were early exponents of a new spirit and did exactly this...changing the terms forever. An open door for young artists that want to be more than just pop morron sheeps of the industry! In that meaning they are all heroes. With bravery & strength into the unknown.
@@powerplantplanetuniverse5945 WHITEHOUSE
i read in RESEARCH that Hamburger Lady was inspired by a letter a friend wrote to Gen about his new job as an intern in a psychiatric hospital where he took care of a patient they called hambuger lady he described was like a ham if you burned it and sat it up in a potty chair to greet you every evening.
The letter was fiction. It was sent to Gen, but the content was completely made up. Doesn't mean that there has never been at least one burn victim just like The Hamburger Lady though.
Also have a listen to "Slow Death" by The Leather Nun- tackles the same subject matter, but from the POV of the burn victim. It's more structured like an actual song, but that still doesn't diminish it's disturbing and nauseating content.
I read that too, just now,
❤
This version of Hamburger Lady is probably the first example of "death industrial" ever.
Essence🔥
Hey they said my city..... Dallas Tx
@a w Indeed, mid-80's to early 90's, didn't play a lot of TG, but Psychic TV (With Gen & Sleazy,) were played quite a bit in thee clubs, quite a bit of MDA, psychedelics & what would later become "raves." It was a wonderful time to be a teen & DJ.
@@GMDark brother you've always beat me to these amazing uploads lol
Throbbing Gristle has fans the same way William Hung has fans … people like watching a train wreck.
そして、それは今日もいいことだと思う。
почему все пересматривают 55:00?
idk but i don’t blame them because that song is amazing
thinking about the hamburger lady
Hello we are throbbing gristle were from Dalles tx I'm Fred dorkus and they are the poker chips from Kansas City that's so clever those fools had no idea what was coming I'm sure the audience shit their pants 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It’s pretty much Pink Floyd and Kraut Rock actualized for even harder times (80’s). Brilliant.
i forgot which show i was listening to but one of them ON UA-cam had a sample from the Charlie Manson USA movie from 1973 where they are talking about "behind the barn...who has the bigger dick...i have a ribber rabber jib jab zib zab..." ect...
💀🖤💀
Who the hell disliked this???
@@KZ-cm9rt what
@@afterceasetoexist Drugs.
@@enimapodofficial6618 drugs did not dislike this.
@@morgellon9449 Indeed; Drugs took the opposite course of action.
Then, however, Al. Jourginson claimed to be the one who gave Tool members acid, so the weirder substances decided to bugger off & go out with Tool instead, going, _"Screw this guy, he spins too many weird yarns & sounds like an ash-tray on crack... but these guys over here, they make songs about weirdoes having sex with lazy-boy sofas & recliners & use a buncha' weird time signatures..."_
_"...then they write songs about really-deep subject matter, and that's cool, too."_
Edit: ...actually, the thing with Al. _might_ have potentially happened on some level or another: loudwire.com/tool-danny-carey-wild-events-ministry-al-jourgensen/
Also, for the sake of clarification, Ministry had some badass material after With Sympathy, and a decent while after that... Al's got a bit of an ego, though.
@@enimapodofficial6618 I'm not too familiar with either band, but I do like them. I've heard some of the new Tool, and it was pretty good. I saw them play about six years ago and they were amazingly good, live.
I guess AJ did get more heavily into h or whatever, yeah? Or maybe it was the h that got into him, as you're suggesting. Interesting theory. Perhaps there's something to it. A rather Burroughsian concept. Here: ua-cam.com/video/7Ar00KGOO8k/v-deo.html
Hulme
TRVE
amphetaminephetaphetaphetamine...
non-binary icon
As a nonbinary person I really wish I could also celebrate gen as a nonbinary icon… but since according to cosey’s book they have been abusive towards her, I don’t feel comfortable with that. I do love the music though.
Oh, so it's just all incoherent noises
yet you think radiohead is good
@@growskullRadiodull suck
it’s industrial of course its going to sound industrial, retard
Throbbing Gristle has followers the same way Marshall Applewhite and Jim Jones had followers
cult industrial