So your biggest complaints are as follows: - More tire width than advertised - Too much bulge running a 305 tire on a 10.5" rim (when the manufacturer ideally recommends 11") - The sidewalls are too "busy"? - Cleaning the tires when they're dirty is a pain in the ass I can't help but be blunt; these are pretty poor excuses. Getting an almost 315 profile with greater contact patch area in a 305 (provided you're following the manufacturers 'recommended' wheel sizes) is a huge plus for anyone concerned with traction. Another thing great about those ultimately concerned with traction, "busy" sidewalls and the fact that vehicles need to be washed doesn't usually bother them. I can't speak for everyone obviously, but when I'm researching performance tires I'm generally looking at three things: level of grip, treadwear and responsiveness. Sidewall art and how difficult cleaning will be shouldn't even be crossing your mind if performance is what you're really after; anything else is nitpicking.
The 305 35-20 has been used by a ton of guys running a 10 and a half inch wide wheel. Call it nitpicking, hell call it whatever you want. But the fact is that the Nitto 555r and the Mickey Thompson fit the ten and a half inch wheel better. In the same size. Of 305 35 20. I think I even said that this tire would do very well on an 11 inch wide wheel. Many Challenger owners don't run 11 inch wide wheels because of interference problems with the inner fender. And this video is targeting specifically Challenger owners. Again, with the very customary 10.5 in wheel. As far as Aesthetics go, that's subjective. As far as grip goes they are not quite as good as the old pattern 555r, or the ET Street SS however it is better in the rain. Look at the rest of my videos on this tire and you will have a more well-rounded idea of my opinion on them. It's not all gloom and doom. They actually handle well, all things considered. They handle the rain and wet weather very well, best of the bunch. Back toaesthetics, , as a consumer, I have every right to be as nitpicky as I want. To me the tire looks far too busy, I like the more plain clean look of the older tri-five and the ET Street SS.
Thanks B for the walk around and review. I'm in the same boat and would probably have to tuck in my fender well a little more, not a huge deal. Looking forward to the 6 month review!
I went with the G2 in a 20/315..great from a roll but not so much from a stop. Overall good for the street, just dont plan on hooking much better than the stock Pirrellis. So, yes, a good replacement for stock but not much on performance increase. Looking forward to getting a set of 555r's or nt05's.
I noticed the same thing on the width. I believe they're 12.32 width. I put the 305s on my car yesterday coming down from a 315. These seem to be no narrower visibly I want it comes to the bulge. That was the first thing I noticed. On paper from nittos website they are almost identical to a 315. I was hoping for them not to be quite as wide as my other tires.
One thing I will add, the old school 555r were known to run narrow, essentially Nitto has made these truer to size like the parent company Toyo. I need a set of 305/35/18s and these were one of the few options in that size
Mickey Thompson would like to disagree with your comment. The ET Street SS is identical in size to the outgoing 555r. Speaking specifically to the 20 in size
This was a good review! I've been debating of whether or not I should switch out my all-seasons to some nittos like these. I am also considering picking up some 18 inch bravado wheels and slapping these tires on, while keeping all-seasons on my regular wheels for around-town driving
I have a stock auto hellcat and interested in better traction from a roll in 2nd-3rd gears mainly. What drag radial would you recommend to fit on the stock wheels? My semi worn factory all-seasons will not hook under 60.
I agree, that tire's sidewall is busier than a NASCAR car body, and the tread is weird looking with the giant channel gaps, but kind of cool at the same time. I don't have much of a street-only tire choice since I'm running 18x11 Demon wheels on my Charger and want to keep the overall diameter the same (305/45-18). But yeah, think 100-tread wear rating and better wet-weather characteristics and it makes the ugly sidewall look a little better, lol.
can you do a video on how to push the inner fender in so it doesn’t rub? i had these installed today on a 10.5 rim and i could hear it rub and have no idea how to push it in
Nitto is supposed to come out with a 295/35R20 tire in the 3rd quarter if that helps anyone considering this tire. The depth of the grooves were probably an attempt to make a tire that lasts longer.
It didn't say in terms of height. All the Nitto website said is that it would be released in the 3rd quarter. Since the 285s are 11.4 inches wide and the 305s are 12.3 inches wide, the 285s should be about halfway in between. Doing the math, there should be less than 1/2" difference in height between the between the 295s and 305s.
Hey boss good video. I was wondering how the g2 held up. I need new tires soon and I just ran through my pzero after 11k miles. I daily my car and live in Miami where there is always a chance of rain. But I'm looking for something that will last at least a year 😂 oh I have a challenger hellcat widebody, do you think it will still rub?
My pattern tests of this tire would like to disagree with your statement. At any less than 24 psi they were cupping fairly significantly. At roughly 28 PSI, the pattern was more flattened out. I ran them at 28 PSI at the drag strip and they dead hooked, track-prepped was also very good.
Surprisingly well. In terms of mileage, kind of hard to say because I don't daily the car. But I'm also not that easy on it either. Plenty of tread left.
@@Jamie-ww3yz I think that you will like it, I know of a few guys that have run them as their street set up with Whipple GTS. They're quite a bit better than any regular Street Tire in terms of traction, and you can actually drive them with some level of confidence over and above some other brands drag radials in the wet
@@bmasontv the 315 did require me to clearance the fender Wells, and I like the beefy look. But I understand you don't want something that wide. Overall I like your new nittos but the side walls are a little busy, once you pointed it out I see what you mean. Tread pattern looks really good however
If you liked mickey tires so much why didn't you just buy those again? Seems like it didn't matter what tire you tried out you were gonna find everything wrong you could cause they werent Mickey's
Yeah well they hook better than the PZeros. Night and day on my hellcat, as in almost 2 seconds faster in my zero to 60 time. Also, my shit don’t rub. And you have a scat pack, and you bother me. Take care all
Yep, they look like shit when compared with the MT ET street SS, also don't pattern test as well on the more popular 10.5 inch wheel (wouldn't consider mounting them on a 9.5 stock HC) So, they don't perform as well, (not good for a go fast tire) are less attractive (important if asthetics are important) and the only party trick is they work well in the wet.... As a consumer, and someone who spends their own money on testing products, it is my right to whine about whatever leaves me wanting.
Well, If you're buying this tire for a car that doesn't make much power, it hooks fine. They just weren't noticibly better than a solid summer tire on a car that makes roughly 700 to the wheels.
You sound so whiny in this review, and the thing that gets me is the way you start the video complaining about the sidewall patterning. It's an uprated street tire, it's not going to look like your track tire.
Well, considering the outgoing 555R was clean looking, fit the wheel better, didn't add to clearance issues and frankly, performed better, I have a lot to whine about. Add to that the fact that I had run the outgoing tri-five drag radial on literally every car that I had owned for years and years... based on my experience, my takeaway is the new Nitto 555r2 is nothing more than a summer Tire with less tread depth and slightly softer compound. Mickey Thompson will be getting my money moving forward. Which is a shame, because I've spent thousands of dollars on Nitto 555r over the years and would happily buy them again if they were released
I put the 305/35/20 on my Challenger stock rim....plus it's lowered with eibach 1 1/2" in the rear. I've had no issues rubbing. Is this something I should really worry about???...
So your biggest complaints are as follows:
- More tire width than advertised
- Too much bulge running a 305 tire on a 10.5" rim (when the manufacturer ideally recommends 11")
- The sidewalls are too "busy"?
- Cleaning the tires when they're dirty is a pain in the ass
I can't help but be blunt; these are pretty poor excuses.
Getting an almost 315 profile with greater contact patch area in a 305 (provided you're following the manufacturers 'recommended' wheel sizes) is a huge plus for anyone concerned with traction. Another thing great about those ultimately concerned with traction, "busy" sidewalls and the fact that vehicles need to be washed doesn't usually bother them.
I can't speak for everyone obviously, but when I'm researching performance tires I'm generally looking at three things: level of grip, treadwear and responsiveness. Sidewall art and how difficult cleaning will be shouldn't even be crossing your mind if performance is what you're really after; anything else is nitpicking.
The 305 35-20 has been used by a ton of guys running a 10 and a half inch wide wheel. Call it nitpicking, hell call it whatever you want. But the fact is that the Nitto 555r and the Mickey Thompson fit the ten and a half inch wheel better. In the same size. Of 305 35 20. I think I even said that this tire would do very well on an 11 inch wide wheel. Many Challenger owners don't run 11 inch wide wheels because of interference problems with the inner fender. And this video is targeting specifically Challenger owners. Again, with the very customary 10.5 in wheel. As far as Aesthetics go, that's subjective. As far as grip goes they are not quite as good as the old pattern 555r, or the ET Street SS however it is better in the rain. Look at the rest of my videos on this tire and you will have a more well-rounded idea of my opinion on them. It's not all gloom and doom. They actually handle well, all things considered. They handle the rain and wet weather very well, best of the bunch. Back toaesthetics, , as a consumer, I have every right to be as nitpicky as I want. To me the tire looks far too busy, I like the more plain clean look of the older tri-five and the ET Street SS.
Thanks B for the walk around and review. I'm in the same boat and would probably have to tuck in my fender well a little more, not a huge deal. Looking forward to the 6 month review!
Yep, I really like the bead recess on Continental tires for a little curb rash protection.
Very nice!!!
How well would they hold up as daily drivers? Is the compound too soft. Thanks
I went with the G2 in a 20/315..great from a roll but not so much from a stop. Overall good for the street, just dont plan on hooking much better than the stock Pirrellis. So, yes, a good replacement for stock but not much on performance increase. Looking forward to getting a set of 555r's or nt05's.
I noticed the same thing on the width. I believe they're 12.32 width. I put the 305s on my car yesterday coming down from a 315. These seem to be no narrower visibly I want it comes to the bulge. That was the first thing I noticed. On paper from nittos website they are almost identical to a 315. I was hoping for them not to be quite as wide as my other tires.
Great info thank you I added your link to my new vid. I value your knowledge thanks for always being you.
One thing I will add, the old school 555r were known to run narrow, essentially Nitto has made these truer to size like the parent company Toyo. I need a set of 305/35/18s and these were one of the few options in that size
Mickey Thompson would like to disagree with your comment. The ET Street SS is identical in size to the outgoing 555r. Speaking specifically to the 20 in size
I bought tires at a discount tire shop for $100 a pop that are 275s and they grip amazingly well. Stupid Firestone wanted $500+ a pair...
Is it busy on the sidewall or is busy
This was a good review! I've been debating of whether or not I should switch out my all-seasons to some nittos like these. I am also considering picking up some 18 inch bravado wheels and slapping these tires on, while keeping all-seasons on my regular wheels for around-town driving
Out of curiosity what width wheel did you install that rear tire on?
10.5 Demon Replicas
I have a stock auto hellcat and interested in better traction from a roll in 2nd-3rd gears mainly. What drag radial would you recommend to fit on the stock wheels? My semi worn factory all-seasons will not hook under 60.
Try the 555R, or the 555R2. You will be happy with both.
B Mason
Cool will do!
Thank you, B Mason
I agree, that tire's sidewall is busier than a NASCAR car body, and the tread is weird looking with the giant channel gaps, but kind of cool at the same time. I don't have much of a street-only tire choice since I'm running 18x11 Demon wheels on my Charger and want to keep the overall diameter the same (305/45-18). But yeah, think 100-tread wear rating and better wet-weather characteristics and it makes the ugly sidewall look a little better, lol.
It's hard to argue with the performance of that tire. Although it's not the most handsome thing to look at, it does perform very well
Interested to see how they wear
Same here
can you do a video on how to push the inner fender in so it doesn’t rub? i had these installed today on a 10.5 rim and i could hear it rub and have no idea how to push it in
Check out my how Tom's section. There may be one in there.
Idk what they were thinking with the choice of wheel / tire size on these stock.
Nitto is supposed to come out with a 295/35R20 tire in the 3rd quarter if that helps anyone considering this tire. The depth of the grooves were probably an attempt to make a tire that lasts longer.
That size could be an issue in terms of height.
It didn't say in terms of height. All the Nitto website said is that it would be released in the 3rd quarter. Since the 285s are 11.4 inches wide and the 305s are 12.3 inches wide, the 285s should be about halfway in between. Doing the math, there should be less than 1/2" difference in height between the between the 295s and 305s.
Hey boss good video. I was wondering how the g2 held up. I need new tires soon and I just ran through my pzero after 11k miles. I daily my car and live in Miami where there is always a chance of rain. But I'm looking for something that will last at least a year 😂 oh I have a challenger hellcat widebody, do you think it will still rub?
You should be good on width. I don't have a ton of miles on mine, but they are doing well.
@@bmasontv nice thanks. I don't track mine at all. I mostly do highway pulls. So I'm hoping I'll do fine.
@@emtfirefighter69 for highway pulls and general driving they will work well.
0:30 I actually like that look
It's not. ... bad.... just a little much if the 555r is what it is being compared to. It may not be a deal killer by itself, but all of it together...
B Mason Hey B. Will you be going live tonight? I like the interior of the 2021 Durango Hellcat
@@hmackprotection1 I'm going to try to but it's going to be late. I'm in the middle of swapping out calipers and brake lines on the 72 GMC right now
B Mason right on thanks
Whats up B , how about the Toyo 888r ?
Fantastic tire but $$$$
Pressure is sorta high even on the street! And definitely for the track! Psi at 30psi is not going to fully contact the road !
My pattern tests of this tire would like to disagree with your statement. At any less than 24 psi they were cupping fairly significantly. At roughly 28 PSI, the pattern was more flattened out. I ran them at 28 PSI at the drag strip and they dead hooked, track-prepped was also very good.
Very 1st thing I noticed when the video 1st started was that busy ass sidewall... LOL! Thanks for the info my friend.
Summit racing says these tires are for road racing not drag racing
Might have to throw these on my widebody
I literally just did that. first day so I can’t say much
@@nicholasmashburn5561 how are things a month later?
How are those tires holding up
Surprisingly well. In terms of mileage, kind of hard to say because I don't daily the car. But I'm also not that easy on it either. Plenty of tread left.
@@bmasontv thanks for reply I just ordered a set for my 16 GT with a whipple 750 wheel they got to hook up better than my continental extreme contact
@@Jamie-ww3yz I think that you will like it, I know of a few guys that have run them as their street set up with Whipple GTS. They're quite a bit better than any regular Street Tire in terms of traction, and you can actually drive them with some level of confidence over and above some other brands drag radials in the wet
How come you never considered the Nitto nt05r?
They don't offer the in the size I need
@@bmasontv the 315 did require me to clearance the fender Wells, and I like the beefy look. But I understand you don't want something that wide. Overall I like your new nittos but the side walls are a little busy, once you pointed it out I see what you mean. Tread pattern looks really good however
So it’s a 305/30/20?
305 35 20
@@bmasontv Ok I need 305/30/20
If you liked mickey tires so much why didn't you just buy those again? Seems like it didn't matter what tire you tried out you were gonna find everything wrong you could cause they werent Mickey's
You chose the tire and you’re complaining and pointing out what you don’t like. Buy a smaller size, buy a different brand, stop whining already.
Yeah well they hook better than the PZeros. Night and day on my hellcat, as in almost 2 seconds faster in my zero to 60 time. Also, my shit don’t rub. And you have a scat pack, and you bother me. Take care all
Who has a Scat pack?
Imagine whining about the sidewall being "to busy" on a go fast tire.
Yep, they look like shit when compared with the MT ET street SS, also don't pattern test as well on the more popular 10.5 inch wheel (wouldn't consider mounting them on a 9.5 stock HC) So, they don't perform as well, (not good for a go fast tire) are less attractive (important if asthetics are important) and the only party trick is they work well in the wet.... As a consumer, and someone who spends their own money on testing products, it is my right to whine about whatever leaves me wanting.
What’s wrong with you, nit picking and they are tri 5 Rs
Your complaining about nothing it a better tire it hook better also you need too test more
Well, If you're buying this tire for a car that doesn't make much power, it hooks fine. They just weren't noticibly better than a solid summer tire on a car that makes roughly 700 to the wheels.
Tire Mayo is stupid !!
You sound so whiny in this review, and the thing that gets me is the way you start the video complaining about the sidewall patterning. It's an uprated street tire, it's not going to look like your track tire.
Well, considering the outgoing 555R was clean looking, fit the wheel better, didn't add to clearance issues and frankly, performed better, I have a lot to whine about. Add to that the fact that I had run the outgoing tri-five drag radial on literally every car that I had owned for years and years... based on my experience, my takeaway is the new Nitto 555r2 is nothing more than a summer Tire with less tread depth and slightly softer compound. Mickey Thompson will be getting my money moving forward. Which is a shame, because I've spent thousands of dollars on Nitto 555r over the years and would happily buy them again if they were released
Who cares about rain?
Meteorologists
I put the 305/35/20 on my Challenger stock rim....plus it's lowered with eibach 1 1/2" in the rear. I've had no issues rubbing. Is this something I should really worry about???...
Keep an eye on it.