Path of Exile Guide: Damage Conversion/Taken As

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  • @bribblebrabble2631
    @bribblebrabble2631 Рік тому +10

    Glad you touched on the "non-chaos as extra chaos" stuff as it's probably one of the least well-known ways to scale damage in the game. I wanted to try out a Trickster or Assassin EK build with Gloomfang this league with Harness the Void kinda like the popular ignite version but as a hit build instead. But I never even made it to maps lol.

  • @Lolwhatnow1
    @Lolwhatnow1 Рік тому +4

    Years later and I didn't know about the gem priority. Always learning something new

  • @Pr24601
    @Pr24601 8 місяців тому +2

    "Use hatred when you know why it's good." - subtractem
    Seems like a good T-Shirt

  • @derbengel8172
    @derbengel8172 Рік тому +4

    Very good explaination. Was looking into this aswell yesterday because i needed a refresher before making some new build ideas. This is by far one of the most intresting mechanics in PoE! Love this kind of videos, learning the mechanics behind the game is very important to get better.

  • @tamasfreiberger1184
    @tamasfreiberger1184 Рік тому +3

    I'd love a guide on marks and curses, with additional curse options and what the hell doom is.

  • @raikaria3090
    @raikaria3090 Рік тому +2

    There are a few exceptions to Damage Taken As. There is "Damage Taken from hits" in most cases, but a couple of uniques just say X% of damage taken as; not specifying hits, and those work on DoT's.

  • @Westover
    @Westover Рік тому +2

    Babe wake up, new subtractem lecture is out

  • @BijutsuYoukai
    @BijutsuYoukai Рік тому

    I had been wondering what was the point of various 'you take #% of y damage as x damage' on things for a bit now and this video helped me finally understand. So, much appreciated for expanding my knowledge regarding that and more.

  • @bob-dm1mo
    @bob-dm1mo Рік тому +1

    Thank you sir for this information. This is the best explanation I have heard. Very helpful.

  • @MuhammadRifqi-xb4kr
    @MuhammadRifqi-xb4kr Рік тому +3

    Great video as always, I Didn't know non-chaos as chaos mod is that strong. Can we have some MF and loot conversion mechanics next? Seems to be an interesting topic if all the god-touched mechanics survive from next league.

  • @RahulKaleaintnojustice
    @RahulKaleaintnojustice Рік тому +1

    love your videos, you convert our interest into excitement

  • @TJLJ-bn5gp
    @TJLJ-bn5gp Рік тому

    Congratulations! You have level up! +1 to Intelligence!

  • @chrisklooz9538
    @chrisklooz9538 Рік тому +3

    First! Boom! Never get to do this!
    +1 for the Nerds

  • @Krakinru
    @Krakinru Рік тому +1

    Hello, can you write the name of the plugin that allows you to set a photo as the background of tabs, like you have in your browser. Looks very nice.

  • @blazewagon5677
    @blazewagon5677 Рік тому

    very informative and I think I even learned something, thanks subtractem

  • @BuzzaB77
    @BuzzaB77 Рік тому

    oooooohhhhh I was gonna ask if evasion was taken into account for flask charges gained on hit thankyou for mentioning that!

  • @thomasgrimm1664
    @thomasgrimm1664 Рік тому

    Good video! Going to watch that one again.

  • @dervakommtvonhinten517
    @dervakommtvonhinten517 3 місяці тому

    with archmage having such a huge lightning damage stat, wouldnt converting lightning into cold then into fire be much more powerful than converting physical damage?
    lightning is the damage source with the highest base damage after all :o

  • @stevencrisp1373
    @stevencrisp1373 Рік тому

    I found this out when I corrupted a poets pen with unholy might as the implicit on my kb corrupting fever champion. The 30% phys as extra chaos really pushed the build a lot since everything that build does is phys/bleed.

    • @LostRocks
      @LostRocks Рік тому

      Isn’t most of the build dot non-bleed?

    • @stevencrisp1373
      @stevencrisp1373 Рік тому

      @@LostRocks it's phys dot but the bleed is a secondary damage, and a nice one at that. That's why most kb fever builds take the single bleed node on the left for the extra 15% bleed proc but the unholy might only effects the phys dot.

    • @daath912
      @daath912 Рік тому

      @@stevencrisp1373 enlighten me, how does extra chaos dmg increase your phys dot?
      Unholy might makes a difference because poets has decent physdmg and your kb itself dealt more hitdmg. So the physdot from cf had to "remove" less life before the pops happen.

  • @Skaatje
    @Skaatje Рік тому +6

    Have you've tried Torchlight Infinite yet? It's PoE in a happy hoodie. 😁 Really having fun with that at the moment.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому +11

      Just watched palsterons review on it. Glad they backed off of the predatory monetization, looks super fun. I'm mostly playing brotato and overwatch 2 though at the moment, need some non arpg time.

    • @Skaatje
      @Skaatje Рік тому

      @@subtractem Yeah that makes sense. And nothing can beat a game like Brotato! 😁

  • @THPoppy
    @THPoppy Рік тому +1

    A few Questions for you. If I have a mahuxotl's machination shield (which has divine flesh) and a lethal Pride jewel that gives me (Tempered by War ) I would take no Lighting or Cold damage of any type and just 50% of fire damage correct? If so do you know of any other ways to address the 50% of fire damage ? Ruby Flask 20% less damage etc....

    • @calebnguyen4536
      @calebnguyen4536 Рік тому +1

      With the Mahuxolt Shield + Tempered by War combo. You can only take 3 types of dmg: fire, chaos and phys. 50% of 'all elemental' dmg will be convert to fire and chaos. Both of which you can achieve 90% res. But your phys dmg taken is still being calculated nornally with armour, supression, block and evasion. Now there are ways to 100% convert phys dmg 'taken from HITS' to fire. But not 'all' phys dmg taken into fire. So you will still take phys DOT such as bleed & corrupted blood notmally.

    • @THPoppy
      @THPoppy Рік тому +1

      @@calebnguyen4536 Thanks for the reply, I Understand about the chaos and phys damage still needing to be addressed. was just wondering if there was a way to address the 50% of fire damage like the cold and lightning. so all Element damages is avoided? meaning is there a way to take all remaining fire damage as chaos? I have not been able to find a way to do this.

    • @killershark84
      @killershark84 Рік тому

      @@THPoppy At the current state, no. Its really hard to come around elemental dmg converted to something else, on top of it being all sources not hits exclusive. The mahuxotl's + tempered by war combo combined with doryani's proto is one of the most busted mechanic atm imo.

  • @thingofbeauty7778
    @thingofbeauty7778 Рік тому +3

    IT dOesNT evEN REMemBer THat iT was COLD dAMAGE!!

  • @blacklotus1606
    @blacklotus1606 Рік тому

    very informative, thank you.

  • @dervakommtvonhinten517
    @dervakommtvonhinten517 3 місяці тому

    does original sin convert your damage into chaos after all the increases and conversions are done or does it only look at what you got before conversions and then turn it into chaos?

  • @MorganWahbi
    @MorganWahbi Рік тому

    Useful as expected !

  • @user-ep8ns6hg4q
    @user-ep8ns6hg4q 7 місяців тому

    Where/when do you get bled when you're fully converting phys? Typically bleed is based on the hit, if the hit is fully converted bleed never gets inflicted (as evidenced by vulnerability maps never inflict bleed when you're 100% converted to elemental)

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  7 місяців тому

      you actually need 101% because of some rounding issues

    • @user-ep8ns6hg4q
      @user-ep8ns6hg4q 7 місяців тому

      @@subtractem did not know that, definitely explains some of the random 1 shots, thanks

  • @wolfgeralt
    @wolfgeralt Рік тому

    Do the cold conversion applies after "Lightning damage with non-critical strikes are lucky" calculations or before?

  • @ajnpuccio
    @ajnpuccio Рік тому

    Very helpful for me!

  • @kidze73
    @kidze73 8 місяців тому

    is divine flesh still good? Im using a +2% max ele res +3 max chaos res shield and 2 small cluster setup to get to 90% chaos res, but it is too much investment.

  • @levitastic
    @levitastic Рік тому

    So if you go phys to lightning and Lightning to cold, elemental damage nodes give more benefit than only converting one type?

  • @tamasfreiberger1184
    @tamasfreiberger1184 Рік тому

    What's the maximum possible "damage taken as chaos"? If it exists, must be broken with CI no?

  • @sangun0619
    @sangun0619 Рік тому

    Could you make an episode about All dmg can ignite/poison Scaling? It’s hella confusing for me. For example, Ek Ignite benefits from ‘Gain phy as Extra ele Dmg’ and ‘More Cold Dmg’ (as an Ignite build), meanwhile ‘More Spell Dmg’ does nothing on it.
    I guess it is what it is. I still don’t get the pattern. If spell Dmg does nothing on ignite cuz spell hits (ignite doesn’t), then why the hell ‘More Cold Dmg’ affects Ignite (Ignite is fire Dmg). I don’t understand the ‘order’ of those scaling factors.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому

      I did :) watch the damage over time video in the path of learning playlist

  • @Martin_Hermann
    @Martin_Hermann Рік тому +1

    Why is damage conversion only in one direction?

    • @zorzil
      @zorzil Рік тому +3

      It's to prevent infinite loops.

  • @mohitagar1
    @mohitagar1 Рік тому

    What will be the damage conversion if I use Hrimsorrow with 100% conversion to cold while using goddess scorned with 100% conversion to fire?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому +1

      50% of each. It's normalized.

    • @mohitagar1
      @mohitagar1 Рік тому

      @@subtractem Thanks for the help. One more question. Does the physical damage obtained from passive tree nodes and berserker ascendancy (for example 16% increased physical damage) also get converted?

  • @jamesloftis7381
    @jamesloftis7381 Рік тому

    Would you be able to exploit a damage taken as chaos in a CI build or are there special caveats?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Рік тому +2

      It's great! Doesn't work with divine flesh because damage bypasses but generically it's incredible. I used it last league with a corrupted phys as chaos shield.

    • @daath912
      @daath912 Рік тому

      It works, people used to use incandescent heart on ci builds.

  • @mjavdani3085
    @mjavdani3085 Рік тому

    Why can't convert non-phys to phys?! Not fair! :(

  • @knicklichtjedi
    @knicklichtjedi Рік тому

    Ahh, good to know that a gem's conversion is locked in and only gained conversions are normalized.