Beginner's Guide to FAST Mapping | Path of Exile 3.19
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Loot filter playlist: • Loot Filter Mini-Series
Songs Used:
Cosmic Drift - DivKid
Coffee - Alex Productions
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Intro
02:30 - Build
04:08 - Mobility
06:21 - Loot Filter
13:23 - Preroll Maps
14:17 - Don't Kill Everything
16:01 - Focused Content
17:46 - Outro - Ігри
At 10:43 you are the first person to ever make this point to me in a way that makes sense. Been playing since beta. Still learning... So thanks! I'll revise my loot filter. I appreciate you
me when i spend extra 2 minutes looking for the last 27 monsters because
Yeah having the completionist mind is not always good in poe. When I'm doing expedition and I don't get Dannig or turnjen I know I would probably be better just to reset but I can't help but do it anyway lol
This motivated me to finally work on my lootfilter. But I'd rather pick up regrets than buy them and even 5 chromes feels like something
when you are not a gigachad farmer (although it is illogical)^^
Trust me when i say that counterintuitively you have to stop picking stuff that's worth under 1c per click. Just add mechanics to your maps and go fast
Actually loved this video, and especially enjoyed the section on how to clean up your loot filter. Blows me away how easy it is, and I've never known. Thank you so much!
Okay you have convinced me to spend some time addressing my loot filter tomorrow. I waste soo much time looking at crap.
Exactly the kind of guide I've been looking for over the past week. Thanks as always!
This was really helpful for a new player like me! Especially how to tune your loot for what you want. Thanks so much!
This is great info Sub!! Everything covered here is 100% true. I need to spend a little more time with Filterblade and really customize my loot filter. I end up with soo much crap I never wind up selling. And only doing content that you are spect into on the Atlas tree is priceless advice.
Thanks for the loot filter section. That felt like the right amount of time and the value. Kudos!
Literally have never clicked on the simulate tab on FilterBlade... That copy+paste tip is massive, definitely gonna use that moving forward.
The biggest issue I have is looking at everything. I think the problem stems from the fact that I only started playing 2 years ago. I know the value of mostly everything. But I get stuck on lots of items and read a lot of stuff, because I don’t know if I’ve missed something from all the previous iterations of the game, that could be potentially valuable. And I feel like a lot of guides currently are made with assumed knowledge of a lot of the previous stuff that happened in the game. Im trying really hard to break that habit. I also come from a casual console background until I could afford a PC, so I think it’s partly in my blood lol. Loved this video though sub, definitely is going to help me a lot. Thanks :)
man what a load of good tips! i will tinker with my loot filter immediatly. that copy pasta function is absolutely great :)
Always informative, instructive and concise videos, appreciate your work Sub
Not just for beginners. I have played for 3000+ hours and I still learned things. Great video 🙂
Ty so much for the info/directions about Loot Filter stuff and other great tips :) highly appreciated!
Very good video! Always learning new stuff watching you. Thank you.
cool video mate, i generally map pretty fast but tend to watch videos like this in case ive been missing something. my filter is also strict but i didnt know about the simple and quick way you edit out single items so thank you for that. :)
love your videos, thanks to them i did my best ever(currency-wise) this league in my whole poe experience! also didnt know optimizing filter is so easy, was always copying somebody's but im done with it :) keep it up! Cheers!
The generate loot tip on filterblade is great, didn't know that existed. Thanks for that!
Hey thanks for the video! Really appreciate yourself sharing these tips to be more efficient.
Haven't seen the Loot filter video before, but I will check it out. This sounds really interesting to capture the on demand items.
As a casual gamer, I think I'm always behind the meta (make the wrong build choice bets that is) and getting currencies to complete the gear is always a challenge. Looking forward to get more maps done is my 45-1hr daily gaming quota
I consider myself fairly good at tuning my lootfilter at this point. But the way you showed the chrome reasoning really opened my eyes. I never liked buying bubblegum currency, but the amount of time I must be wasting picking that stuff up vs just mapping to make bigger profits is insane. I'll probably try and change that next league :)
This is incredibly helpful, thank you
BRO BRO... Just Bro... this quick section of yours on loot filters... might have just changed my life!!!!!! I spent about 10mins fucking around with it and now i am a zoomer and not a boomer anymore! Love it!
Thank you for this! I came back to poe this league after quitting in like 2017 and overwhelmed with all the new stuff. I KNEW I had to do this since my filter made me mad with those convoking wands I never understood. Will go through my filter and make it really strict since I mostly just sell essences/harvest anyway.
Great guides man, I’ve been playing on and off since beta in 2012 but haven’t got very into endgame stuff (I was trash) until some lucky drops this league which allowed me to gear way more powerful chars and make my own items, you guides have helped me a lot in going from noob to good
I always thought you needed to do basically write code into your own the loot filter. Seeing that it is sooooo easy to do, I’ll be doing this tonight.
thanks, this is definitely useful. Before every league start, I re-do my filterblade from scratch using the very strict template as a starting point. But I end up showing poor stuff that's useful the first few days, and then just forget to re-tweak my filter throughout the league. I made about 10 divines yesterday, and if I'd watched this and pruned my filter before the session, it probably could have been double haha!
Just popping in to say that this was an EXTREMELY helpful video!!
Great suggestions for filter trimming, this is going to motivate me to go fuck with mine
I Is a forever casual. Strongest build was a beginning end game phox RF build lol. Most times I only get 2-3 hours to play because of RL when I do get to play but it’s still enjoyable and I appreciative the videos you put out. Always informative.
This is me
It’s not for sure. However that doesn’t mean we can’t have fun. I’ve never had a ton of currency, a 60+divine build, or even killed Ubers, but I’ve done searching exarch, eater of worlds, too lazy for Maven, shaper and elder before. It just takes us a lot longer than those with more free time than they know what to do with. I would say you’re right, most gamers are casuals who have lives outside of the game. I don’t know many that can take a week off to play a game. They’d rather save it for family time. GGG has created a culture of no-lifing and unfortunately that’s their choice. If their content creators pushed more towards the average casual, aka play at a slower pace that a casual would likely play, the creator would likely lose subs and GGG may pay more attention.
Long ass paragraph but In short I agree.
Most of what [the person who isn't here anymore] said is just untrue and the opinion of uninformed negative sentiment without data. Skill and game knowledge are incredibly important to success in this game.
If you never grow and only fester in jealousy you'll end up writing an essay in UA-cam comments about a game you don't like. I recommend reevaluating this approach.
Well this turned sour fast….went from personal experience and slight explanation to pure hate…for a game. Ooof my bad.
@12:21 Wow! That saves so much time. There's always that one item that keeps appearing and it's a pain to go through all the filter categories or disabling each instance in notepad.
PS I hate convoking wands and other Various minion wands that never go away. Great tip!
Running self-curse soulthirst really helps teach map tempo, it has a time limit with flasks, so you have to play efficiently to make the most of the build.
Thanks, this made me realize Barrage Support is probably wrong for mapping
Hey Subtractem. I am loving all of your recent videos! This one is going into my favorite videos.
I still consider myself a beginner. Hopefully you can answer a few questions for me:
- I'm fully specced into expedition and forcing it through cheap scarabs. Is it perfectly natural to spend much more time per map than the 2.5 minutes conservative baseline you showed?
- For those who are still quite lagging in terms of progression this league (me!), would you recommend dropping down below T14s if it makes mapping much faster?
- Expedition definitely will add quite a bit. It is worth to reflect a bit on your approach to it though. For all of them quickly look for Logbooks. If not, for Rog/Gwennen I just spam V in a circle, double check that there's no mods you can't run, and kill them quickly. For Tujen/Dannig I put in a bit more more effort for quantity drops.
- The tier of map is always a personal feeling based on your build. There's actually almost no difference between a T14 and T16 for just regular farming besides the ilvl of the items that drop, xp that you get, and some small other progression concerns. If you're just overall faster in T14's and just need loot/map progression there's really no downside besides not being able to use 4 voidstones.
For the other 2 console players out there, you can export Filterblade filters to console in seconds. I never even looked into filters because I assumed it was PC only but this is a game changer. GGG knows what's up
Great video as always, what kinda amp ya got to go along with that Gibson standard in the background? 🤘
I have a nice small 15W Fender amp for clean/crunch and a big 50W Mesa/Boogie for back when I played in a band live. Both are in disrepair sadly and need some love.
Just casually showcasing a reflection of paradise, I see you there...
Great work in the guide again! Do you think its possible to upload your filter somewhere so we could actually just download it? Thanks again for all the help you have provided over the years :)
www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Subtractem/item-filters
14:41
Since we are talking about efficiency.
You just wasted 2 second of your life by typing this command.
We already knew about the 15 remaining mobs by checking out your top right corner of your screen :)
Love your vidoes, thanks a lot
I'm happy that I figured out my leybinds fairly early on in playing PoE. Primary skill on R, secondary on E, primary/spammable movement skill on Q, secondary/blink movement skill on a mouse button. If I need more active skills/buffs they go on W, T, and right click. I personally have always hated the thought of having right click be my primary skill, it never felt natural or comfortable.
I was going to edit this but I got a heart so now it's a reply!
100% on only doing content you're specced for. Just today I decided to pull the trigger and unspec out of everything that isn't Alva, expeditions, altars, and the one lab node. Best decision I've made. I don't interact with rippy essences, no random oneshots from harby packs, no rituals to keep me in place for minutes for mediocre rewards. I'm bulk buying Alva sextants and spamming temples. I've only made one temple that doesn't have an equipment and/or gem double corrupt, and those that don't I just run myself and book it to the apex. Got a 1.3 div rarity string of servitude off that temple lol. But temples are consistent money every 4 maps, expeditions will give logbooks fairly often that are worth a bit, and you can skip the lab trials that don't award an improved offering. For those that do, they're maybe 2 minutes long that can get you an offering worth 40c to a divine. And of course constantly getting eldritch currency and working towards a nice 130-140c invitation
@@bonez994 DFQ.... you can sell invitation and offerings? DAMMMMMM, I trashed 5 of them... becasue i cant kill a singe boss.
@@TKDMwastaken yeah! Exarch invitations are worth like 145c rn. Gift of the goddess is worth around a divine, tribute ~20c and dedication ~45. Very easy money and you'll know if the trial gives an improved offering because it'll say so on the portal
All this is great advice on how to map more efficiently and make more currency 10000% Very nice. But don't forget to have fun too people! Making money isn't everything in this game... Thanks for the trick on the generate loot feature, had no idea you could right click go to item. Clutch!
Always love your videos man. What's your account on filterblade so i could just copy your loot filter? Thanks for all the detailed content you put out brotha!
www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Subtractem/item-filters
That's a spicy paradise tile on that lake ngl. Lucky you didn't miss it :D
There is a gigantic bug on PS4 at the moment with loot filters not working at all luckily I'm not affected, but very much appreciate the loot filter walkthrough
if you're a software developer that works with a team of other poe players you can turn your sprint retrospective meeting into a poe retrospective meeting where everyone critizes eachother's gameplay
0:18 Just got casually Paradise like that :D
Without notable notes how to profit with alch and go since you can't drop Synthesis/Guardian/Conqueror maps?
Ziz really said it the best, the less you pick up the richer you get.
awesome my lootfilter is set up so bad end i tend to stob even for portal scrolls😂
Ive certainly changed a lot since i first started playing. I used to trade up chromes for exalted orbs back in the day. lmao
Shining light as always. :)
Amazing. The only thing to say is when I ran alch and go map I usually come back with nothing in my inventory and I still see some bubblegum currency :Dn something I'm doing wrong
Can you do a vid about loot filter in ssf pls? Thank you
Like + subbed + commented + good content + realistic content
I had no idea filterblade could do that simulate stuff lol. Unfortunately for us console plebs we can’t do the Ctrl alt c trick so it’s a bit more time consuming to find certain items to hide. But hey. That simulator thing is still faster than searching manually through the list like I used to 🤦♂️
Love the quick AF filter blade tuning part...
Also LoL'd at the maps should take 60-90 seconds kek
Don't sleep on the haste aura, check it in your PoB vs any other damage aura, on some build it's a very minimal difference in dmg (2-5%) but the qol and move speed makes it feel significantly better. Plus it has a couple decent watchers eye
I looked at what it does to my evasion vs grace and didn't seriously consider it after that. But thanks for the reminder. Once I get a white socket on my helm I can flip that in instead of my offensive aura, which isn't necessary for mapping.
@@redfish337 oh yeah I wouldn't switch it out for grace/determ. For example on my LS raider it was 3ish% dps loss switching from anger to haste. I was more than happy to trade 3% dmg for attacking faster/move speed. Plus the attack speed is basically move speed if you're using whirling blades
@@kylebusc3624 He's already in the safehouse ready to go (well, technically just leader of research and need to add points), but even though i'm SC, I'm still at 96.95, so rolling this over before I do rippy betrayal stuff. =P I added white sockets elsewhere first but really the ability to flip my auras around should have been done earlier.
I used it this league to rush through acts and early maps because it was buffed and it works well for that but I didn't feel comfortable taking it all the way to T16/pinnacle bosses.
Around 13:40 when you talk about map rolling the keybind ctr+m isnt working for me. is this a feature you have to configure yourself?
Should be the default in awakened poe trade. Make sure you're playing Fullscreen windowed and not Fullscreen.
@@subtractem hey man thanks for the help. After messing around i found it unticked. I think its off by default as I never went into the menu for awaken before this. Also, I really appreciate all the guide vids. As a new player this game is rough and they really help. Without you and ziz I would be so lost. Tbh prob wouldn't still be playing.
both you and POE developers are sick... I hoped to get some tips on how to clear t10+ maps but only info I got was that I should grind like hell, I can't imagine how anyone considers this fun... optimizing my gameplay and map runs down to 90 secs per map??? You are just flexing, it's job for you, it should be relaxation for the rest of us.
Then this game isn't for you and that's ok. There are lots of games out there that fit your preference. Don't judge what other folks like if it doesn't match.
How to modify filter on PlayStation ?
No 3rd party programs on console and i still run 2.5 min maps. We have a loot filter built in but I don't really use it. I leave so much on the ground and never look at 90% of it.
I really need to set my filter to be much more strict, I’m still showing whetstones and shit so I pick up so much stuff
I can't say I was expecting Mario Kart to transition into Lo-Fi Techno music. I also can't say I am complaining.
Heylo! Imma follow up on the comment from the last video because.... reason? Idk, commenting is fun yo.
I keep my lootfilter updated and customized, but I'm prlly gonna give it another look now (didn't know you could click on the generated sample loot in filterblade, that's kinda cool!). That said, I think my personal real issue is how much time it takes to pick up eldritch embers, which honestly are too valuable to leave on the ground. Kinda wish you could set up filters to take into account nearby items, definitely would like to see all essences when I kill an essence monster, it's just click spamming after all.
I think it's important to mention that playing supper efficiently and stressfully going fast, is only annoying at first, after like 10 maps, it's gonna stop being stressful, and it's gonna become second nature. You may loose like 5-10% efficiency, but that's still an improvement over not doing things fast because it's annoying/scary/mentally blocking.
As an update to the 5 minute comment from last time, I am rerolling to a stronger faster character, last one was meant to be a pseudo league start open palm IB anyways.
Thanks for the video!
regex rolling 20+ maps at the a time or basically all the maps I had to the layer I was running was probably the biggst time saver I ever discovered. Ngl thou I to am to lazy to deal with loot filtres maybe next league lol.
0:33 , how are the kill effects called? Whenever the enemies died they would glow red? Can anyone tell me, ty
Herald is ash with celestial mtx
@@subtractem Thank you! Amazing video!
I agree that adjusting Item filter is good and helpful. Not going back for 1-49 monsters- good tip. But skipping previous leagues mechanics because I did not invest Atlas Points is not for me, I enjoy it anyway, HOWEVER I am aware that I am losing time/money doing them, so another point for you
For beginners, getting to t16++ yellow/corrupted maps requires them to loot items worth only a chaos to reach the endgame.
Yes, this is much more targeted towards people that are looking to farm T16 end game and not as they are unlocking the atlas.
As a chronic "make it up and play what I want" I was going to joke that having a good build helps
One day I'll use a decent build
Hardest part is picking what show to stream in a separate window when mapping!
I already knew I had to do this but fine... I'll update my filter...
The problem is being tanky enough. Both the corrupting fever (from grimro) and the tornado shot build and bane occultist I made have around 4000 HP and like no defenses besides 75 all res. They keep getting one shotted and they can't facetank anything at all. This slows down the mapping a lot having to use multiple portals and moving slow+shooting ahead and off screen so the stuff does not instantly kill the character.
It seems like a habit with builds people suggest that are focused on farming fast that they have no tank
playing build like that you must get a cast on death portal. I played omni TS(100+div) and died 2000+ times this league, but I finished all the challenges and get onto ninja.
I didn't spend much time on the game but I maximize the profit and the intensity to be efficient.
Can always go EA Champ for semi-fast clear while being tanky
if you want to have speed, damage and tank, you gotta invest my guy, there is no weird unicorn that inherently has everything
@@forcefulstorm6187 actually it used to exist before it was nerfed it was called vaal spark, but ye it seems that GGG removes stuff that has speed, damage and tank at low cost, and i also think that the youtubers that play this game as their job not intentionally get into this mindset of making stuff with speed and damage but dont focus a lot on tank because they get hit much less or whatever it is.
ye i used cast on death portal a lot this league trying those 3 builds
I kept working on getting max chaos resistance on my occultist but gave that up and went CI. I have 5.5k energy shield, max resist except 80% physical, 50% attack spell block and still get random one shots from time to time.
Need herald of thunder for you passed mobs:)
The definition of 'beginner' can be very relative. For me, I've played this game for 300 hours and I still feel like a 'beginner'. Yet this Beginner's Guide has stuff in it that I'm not ready yet. I've still never done a T16 map. For me, since my goals are to learn more about the game I do things a bit differently than the advice in this vid would recommend: I play every mechanic to learn what it does, I identify stuff low-value items just to test my appraisal abilities. The lootfilter optimization 'workflow' is something I'm going to start doing right away though; even just reading 'sulphur flask' and pausing to reject it is a waste of time.
what is this lightning build ?
Lightning tendrils ignite. Made a video
Me before this video "it's okay i know how to use filterblade no need to shove it down my throat".
12:32 : "Ok maybe I should watch that video of yours". :D
I had a Himalayan named oliver growing up, i miss him :(
They are such sweet cats! I'm sure he had a great life with you.
@@subtractem he did! Would you ever consider doing a friendly build roast video similar to what ziz does on occasion. Your videos are super helpful already, im sure having you pick apart and provide constructive input on builds would be super helpful too!
How did you get your lake of kalandra Tile to offer so many good bricks. Yours were like all 3 or 4 notches. I hardly ever get that.
exile three notchless physical and the elemental(flame lightning cold) ones
Watch grimro's video on lake mechanics to get some tips. Basically it comes down to banishing the most common tiles so rarer ones start showing up more, and using swap reflection/water tile to tile/ water to tile switch as a "staller" to get offered more rare tiles
I already fo both of those things. How many tiles should I be able to exile? 3?
@@nicholassmith1982 3 is the maximum, and you should always exile as many as possible on each new lake (given that they are the elemental tier 1)
I only started playing Poe recently and this kind of stuff is so overwhelming, it makes me question all my decisions haha, I literally do all these einhar missions randomely when I feel like them because they are good for crafting right? (Not that I know how to craft but maybe later I will?) I do my maps in like 5-10 minutes because my build right now can't really tank too hard so if I just flamedash into a pack of monsters and I get ccd I will just die. Honestly so far I'm just picking up all the stuff that looks cool, like unique items and orbs. To be able to run maps this fast you need a good build with good items which I don't yet so I just run the maps as fast as I can right now. The big issue for me is, I have no idea what to focus on... Mining? wtf is that syndicate board anyway? crafting? maps? heists? Honestly no idea...It's too overwhelming, I don't know what will earn me the most, because some content is also just very difficult if you got a shitty build that you're still optimizing
you are not the target audience for this type of video. This is advanced stuff.
You are early enough in your experience to still enjoy the game. Please dont ruin it for yourself bro. Enjoy first, optimize later!
Subtractem is usually very good at mentioning this - just do what you enjoy and progress at your own pace. Play the game the way that it is fun to you. The first few hundred hours you are gonna do a lot of "mistakes" or inefficiencies. But don't worry you'll learn things at your own pace and you will try out new content and craft new gear every now and then when a video inspires you to dive deeper. I still identify a lot of rares and like picking up all the stuff that looks cool.
Generally speaking, you want to pick 1-3 types of content you enjoy and turn most of the other stuff off.
This is pretty much for everyone, including you.
If you don't know what all the content even is, this will cause the content you allow to spawn to spawn very often, so you can see if you like it in the first place. If not, then you block it and try something else. Some stuff like heist will run more or less okay without putting points into on the atlas tree. Einhar will very much appreciate if you go get "Great Migration" in the upper left corner. Probably the biggest problem with Einhar (for you) is the most important results are essentially advanced crafting methods, which makes it not a very beginner friendly thing to focus on, even if you can itemize and sell them.
If you want to run the syndicate board, then you generally want "Test of Loyalty" on the right side at the very least, and probably Effective Leadership (lower right) as well.
The people basically 24/7 running a single type of content will have most if not all of the nodes for that content, but you still tend to want to have at least the more important ones when you start running it somewhat casually.
Still, my main suggestion is again to just shut off most content with those 10 nodes near the start of the tree. Try 2 at a time until you get used to them.
Welcome to the fun of PoE! A lot of this game honestly is research. Doesn't sound fun but I promise it's worth it. For a beginning player tackling one league mechanic at a time is very helpful. Definitely check out a video for each league mechanic on UA-cam but don't worry about optimizing your gameplay at this point. You don't need tons of currency to have fun and learn
I'm 500 hours in and still take a good 5-10 mins in a map. Still learning what gear is good etc like yourself. Don't worry about it.
Just play n have fun, things just click as you play over time.
As you get specific questions you'll get answers that 'connect the dots ' as it were. Until then don't ever be made to feel like you're playing wrong. It's a long term time investment and the fun but is discovering it and learning it so just let it happen. Hope you're enjoying the game!
just give a a good loot filter and go :D
Casual reflection of paradise flex.
hahahah
Need Mac support for everything! Feels bad.
The item that you mentioned was 1 chaos and would never ever sell? Yeah, I sold them all the time, for 5 chaos. but it would never sell like you said if you were to price it at 1 chaos.
The thing is, at 1 chaos no body bothers to sell them, so buyers will start clicking on the 2 chaos and up somebody will even ignore the 1 chaos and start at 2+, and these sell pretty fast, so there's less competition going on.
I usually put mine in the 5 chaos tab and they are selling! I guess some people are impatient.
Even if you manage to sell a stygian for 5c it's just not worth having on your loot filter a month into the league. There's so much other opportunity cost for having it on.
For some reason my eyes flipped the "F" and "M" on the thumbnail and was slightly confused.
Hub moment
I still take about 10 mins. I'm a noob in SSF though I'm picking up EVERYTHING because I still don't know what's good or certainly what might be good for another build. I'm get there.
speaking off netflix and map whenever I go back to leveling my alt I press my buttons as if I was on my main and frick up my inputs on it before it clicks with me I'm on a completly diffrent charater that uses less buttons xD
also 10minute act5 brutus gang who up!
I like to copium say that I'm playing speudo ssf cuz I don't understand how to have money and the mythicaly rare raw divine drop is like THE jackpot for me and I spent some time thinking about where I wanna spend it type of thing. not knowing how to play the economy or sell stuff on the regular for how do you ppl say, your 10c sells here and that would ofc add up to a few hundred chaos I'd imagine but then I look at my own stash and think that 20c purchase would be kinda expensive for me and whatnot.
I enjoy these videos don't get me wrong but I often feel like with any person higher on the skill ladder then me is playing a completely diffrent game that just happens to have the same name then me.
idk it's just some weird dissconnect I have even while having played since a little before 3.16 launched back in std learning the ropes of the game.
may all who struggle with the game have that raw drop of a high ticket item they can feel good about themselves with~
godspeed ya'll.
Interesting...
My movement skills are always on E too.
I wonderd why its like that and I think its because I played league of legends for a long time and for some reason many movement-abilities from champions are binded to E.
There is a champ called Lucian and his mobility is more or less exactly like dash in poe - and ofc its on E
Guess I got it from lol
POB bin?
How are you able to stack so many chromes?
I always run out of them and I even highlight 2x2 items which sell for one chrome - which is super anoying
The fact that you pick up and sell those items after the first couple days is part of the problem. Once you have about 500 chromes you should turn those items off on your filter and do content that just drops lots more raw currency. Eventually you'll have so many that you turn off that raw currency too.
@@subtractem Hm, I always start a new build and maybe even a third one after completing red maps. At that point most of the times I only have double digits of chromes. Guess I need to fix my pace.
Blight and Heist should be past source for chromes I assume?
Thanks for the hint btw
@@spitzhorneule You can do most of your "chroming" with jewellers orbs at the bench. A metric ton of jewellers drop this league. You really only need significant chromes for your 6 socket slots, and generally the 15x or 25x recipes should land those fairly fast. If you're running something super off-color, then you pretty much want to rush for Vorici to get white sockets.
@@spitzhorneule I don't know most item efficient way, but eg, if you want 4 blue sockets on a strength unique boots, you buy 2 sockets, then you buy 2 sockets blue for 25 chrome, then then 3 socket and 2 socket and 3 socket until it lands blue. Then you do it again for 4th socket.
@@redfish337 damn thats smart.
Will try that. Thank you
meanwhile me 680% movement speed blazing through maps, every time i go to my bosser character i feel like slowpoke :(
Seems like if you're at this point you've got your build pretty nailed down makes me wonder what you even use all the chaos for?
Rerolling maps didn't you see?
The grind for a better build only ends when you decide it does. The ceiling for most builds in poe is very high. But even if that wasn't the case, there are so many different strategies for farming, having one build that can reliably do all of them is pretty tough, and having one that can do them all efficiently is probably impossible. So there are always new builds, new strategies and new reasons to farm currency.
Exactly why people end up quitting a league. If there's no cool build they want to spend currency on in the future, what's the point of mapping?
So, what needs to be completed after Acts but before farming like this? Have you completed the atlas? Have you opened all your favorites? Do you just start as soon as you have 5 maps to roll? I'm over here trying to complete my atlas wondering if i need to earn so much an hour yet.
You really, really want to be in tier 14-16 for this.
That said, of course, some of the concepts he mentions transfer to earlier in your progression.
I have less than 50 chrome and need more and I use the chaos recipe to make money
This kind of play style is precisely why I stopped playing trade. I just can't play inefficiently after knowing how inefficient I was playing and this kind of hyper efficient optimal playstyle, where you don't play what you like but what is the most optimal for the economy is just unfun to me. SSF takes all that pressure away and now you play the content that holds the items u need for your build.
POB guide leveling????
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good points, except you didnt calculate how much time takes you to trade some currency. Like chromatics - if you want to roll some item earlier in league, you dont gonna buy 3000 to have it solved for rest of league (simply bcz at that point you would spend most of your currency for it)... so you buy 500.. and later on you buy another lets say 1500. but this trading alone can take like 5 minutes - open website, looking for seller (i personally think its very rude to whisper 20 people and wait who invite first), moving those c in stash, waiting till they move their chromes, then trade.... the trade time is kinda hidden value. Its not worth to pickup some currency you will never use, but if you know you will buy it later on, gotta cound with trading time too.
Also one point with not killing all monsters - this pretty much applies ONLY if you got build that oneshot anything. Otherwise you can easily run into issue you get 15 monsters left, but only bcz they took two hits, not one, because they were rare monsters. And this way you can miss potentially god-touched, so those 15 may worth more than rest of 500 in like 10 maps.
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so you say that 7 minutes of picking up chromes was an opportunity cost of 200chaos.
today i tried to buy 300 chromes, messaged 5-6 people, no respones.
upped it to 600, no response.
upped it to 900, no response.
asked in trade chat, no response.
asked in general, still no response.
i spent well over 15min sitting in my stash trying to find chromes until i finally gave up and now im still running without lifetap on my off-color needed boots.
its not always as simple as "just make a single purchase and save all that time"
That's more about personal approach and knowing the timing of the league and desire to trade those items.
I just tested really quick. I went down the line and clicked the first 10 people. Two responded. This is super quick now with the direct message feature.
If you spent 15 minutes and never traded I would reassess your approach.
@@subtractem it just always seems to be my interaction with trade, its mega frustrating.
i also think its important to note that this isnt a personal attack at you. i have alot of respect for the knowledge you share and what ive learned from you. i guess its more directed at the state of trade in poe. hope it didnt come off as lashing out at you.
This is why i never be rich in POE.
while questioning why