Why are non believers so arrogant? How can they expect their feeble minds to be able to comprehend the complexities of (insert your religious paradox here)? They should humble themselves. To try to understand the (insert your religious paradox here) is to believe you can understand (insert your god's name here) or have His/Her knowledge! Our minds our finite. We don't even remember what we had for breakfast last week! We should be humble and recognise our limits and submit ourselves to the (insert your paradoxical doctrine here) for the (insert paradoxical doctrine here) transcends our mathematics, logic and language. These things are human inventions and are incapable of encompassing the true nature of (insert your god's name here). This generic template should come with every holy book.
@@timetoreason7090My brother in atheism, you are setting the bar way too low. Having a divine (or divine beings) that exists does not mean that it (they) has (have) to be of a particular set of attributes. That also has to be proven.
@@albahr12 Regarding freewill I don't have a belief one way or the other. What I do know is that humans are largely the products of Nature & Nurture, so if freewill exists on some level then it is, at best, minimal. But it could also simply be an illusion and I'm aware some Neuroscientists lean that way. But as I say I don't have a belief either way. I simply don't know and it has no impact on my belief that religions are man-made.
36:28 He said, "This question has been asked since the beginning of time, before Islam." But something that puzzled me is if Islam was the correct religion and everyone is born Muslim (as Muslims all say,) and there has always been such thing as Islam, then how can there be a time before Islam??? 🤔
They are confuse... sometimes they say Adam is the first muslim.. and sometimes they say Muhammed is the first Muslim.. that's islam for your... everything is halal and everything haram...
Islam has confusing theology! Not only that, but Islam has a destructive philosophy against non-believers. This religion cannot be from God but a mad man.The results are devastated and humanity continues to suffer under this Evil cult.
@@lefthook2 So Jews are actually Muslims? If that's the case, why do Muslims dislike Jews?? Why is there a literal WHOLE conflict between Israel & Palestine where Palestine doesn't want to give land to Israel AT ALL because of Islamic religion now allowing Jews to have a country? (I was told this by my very religious muslim parents.) I mean, no one had a problem or outwardly spoke up when places such as Egypt, British Empire or Ottoman Empire controlled/ruled Palestinian people, but when Israel does, people don't like it... But why do they care about if Jews control the place if Jews are also (by your logic) Muslim (Jews did it first so they are Muslim by your logic.) Why do Muslims call Jews, Christians, Infidels, etc "the worst of creatures" if Jews and Christians (by your definition) are Muslim because of the belief in 1 god? Wouldn't they still be treated like Muslims by other Muslims??
a big problem with Islam when it comes to discussions about deep philosophical topics is that a Muslim can never take a reasonable philosophical argument to its logical conclusion if that argument undermines the “majesty” of Allah or leads them to make a blasphemous implication (which could take them out of the fold of Islam). it’s a mental block for so many Muslims. this is exactly why YQ goes on a tangent to strawman the argument and question the intention behind a question like “what is the point of making du’a or salah if everything is already predetermined by Allah from the beginning?”. the free will vs qadr argument was something i struggled with as Muslim, and whenever i’d ask a sheikh to give me an answer that made sense (and took into account the fairness of Jahannam), they’d shut down the conversation by questioning my intentions and even warning me that asking too many questions about this topic could lead me astray. awesome video, Aladdin!
you clearly have never looked up Islamic philosophers like ibn Sina or Ibn Rushd and what they said about these deep questions like free will that continues to be argued about by philosophers today. even atheist today claim free will and consciousness doesn't exist and is all an illusion. so laying all these deep questions on Muslims, is very hypocritical and typical behaviour of chrstans and atheist
"problem with Islam when it comes to discussions about deep philosophical topics is that a Muslim can never take a reasonable philosophical argument to its logical conclusion ......blablablabla" this accusation against muslims sounds more like a projection and admission Muslims literally resurrected Egyptian Greek philosophy and contributed to it, which then was copied by western Europe. so your nonsense against muslims as whole group makes no sense. philosophers like ibn Sina have even been condemned as deviants for their philosophical works . these anti Muslim bigotry and insults may sound great in your mind, but you must always see if they make sense with reality and what we know of history. so your false claim that Muslims rejected philosophy only makes sense if you ignore history or if by "muslims" you mean the salafi hanballi school of thought who reject reason, and paint every Muslim as belong to that hanbali school
@@homer1273 so, back to the original question and response. Why can’t he square the circle as the question requires? I notice you don’t even attempt to answer it, just cast shade on the person who has the cheek to point out the double bind Dr Quadi is trapped in as the logical outcome of his position.
Found your stuff from the video with cosmic skeptic. Recently had friends take interest in Islam and found myself looking for a better understanding of my own position on it. I really enjoy your stopping and articulating the spots where they shift languages. I feel like without your interruptions, I would be lost in what they are even arguing about. Thank you for taking the time to make it more digestible.
I really hope Aladdin will cover YQs other lectures or his Seerah series. They are a gold mine, especially the parts about Mary the Copt and the battle or Badr.
There is no question that can stump Hazrat Yasir Qadhi, he just doesn't want to unleash his secret knowledge on us intellectual peasants, lest our minds explode due to the sheer magnitude of his awesomeness. We should be grateful for his humility, he's like the Steven Seagal of ilm ul ghayb.
They are trying to get him but want more evidence... the different sects are checking if he is with them or not... I believe he left but scared for his life...
@@ApostateAladdinwhy is yasir Qadhi talking about cheating 😂? When caught cheating started threatening from Quran to his wives that my God provide me with better wives but can’t help him from poison ☠️ ? I am suffering from 3 years from poison from meat 🍖 that I tasted at Khyber. I think shias are correct that it was the wives 😂. I can certainly understand the reason after watching cheating video by yasir Qadhi and reading 📖. No wonder our Momins don’t want us ever to read our own books 📚
Aladdin, you have one of the best channels on critiquing Islam. You are very articulate, intelligent, kind. I do not understand why channels like " Christian Prince" who can' t even speak English( English is not even my first language, but I am able to convey my thoughts in a logical way) the way he expresses himself is absolutely horrid. He is unable to communicate logically, yet he has over 100 k subscribers. It makes no sense. I hope you will reach the great success you deserve. Millions of subs. Thank you for your work.
Well done. This is what we expect from you, critiquing Islam especially giving explanations on Arabic terms, and how they relate to Islam. This is how the message should be delivered to non Muslims. And this should be applied to all the Muslims who join the call in show. Cheers
@@sihingvonfelix4251 I just found out that you have replied only when sorted "newest first" if not your comments and few others are hidden! Yes, YT is a crazy world, this is for your information. Since noticing this years ago now I read comments after sorting newest first, but most do not do that, but they assume they see all and you also feel that YT had posted your comments and replies. YT is another deceiver!!!
I think YQ correcting him saying "Do Allah" vs "does Allah" might be because using the word do would imply Allah is plural, do they vs does he. I still am convinced YQ doesn't believe a word he's saying though.
I've watched it now. I think you did a great job explaining their views fairly and critiquing it fairly. If I'm not mistaken, YQ say we are not able to understand this paradox, but at the same time he can explain it over a longer format, but that is also arrogant to try to understand?? Is that what he is saying?
If anyone has visited the original video you will notice all the comments has been turned off. But strangely for other videos including ones Yasir Quadhi appearing have comments on. Why Muslims shy away from comments, opinions and constructive criticism of their faith, teachings as well as practices.
Muslims found it difficult to answer simple questions because of the paradoxical confusion in philosophy and practice. If you listen to Muslim debaters they are as confusing as the believers. What a disaster. Heads off to ex-Muslims who left the cult.
15:00 the evasion is intense, and you say it comes from fear of Allah? Surely an educated man knows that the truth can always stand any amount of scrutiny?
Hmm. Tricky. I think it's clear we should be empowering each other to develop skills of analysis, interpretation, critical reasoning, empirical reasoning and growing knowledge. Traditional Islam seems to discourage this ... But that's not odd. So did Christianity before Martin Luther came around. Judaism, less so. But we also live in a world now where countless people don't recognize the limits of their knowledge or the limits of current human knowledge, which we continue to expand. There's a kind of naive arrogance in that. It's best embodied by the theistic claim to "know" (take on faith) things that, put simply, aren't proven or provable
That's not when "Allah knows best" is used. It's used when there is a valid differences of opinion between scholars. Misunderstanding occurs when you come with biases
As an ex Muslim either are not good in my opinion or any religion in particular so yath really i dont thing Jesse give shit about me or anyone because the guy is dead so yath mate dont speak bullshit we have seen it from humans like you the only difference is the clothes and god
Reason on the FACT that Jesus Christ pbuh was CREATED by Allah's Breathe ( HOLY SPIRIT) through the best of the Angels Gabriel pbuh Luke 1:11-end, and with the miraculous WORD "BE " to create Jesus Christ pbuh in the womb of Mary pbuh ( Job 15:14, Matthew 19:17-18, Mark 10 vs 17 -18, Luke 18:18-19, John 4:34, John 5 vs 30, John 5 vs 37-38, John 6:38, John 13 vs 16, John 14 vs 28, John 17 vs3, John 20 vs 17 etc) and interestingly enough all human beings were created likewise according to psalm 33:6, psalm 104:30, Isaiah 64:8, Job 33 vs 4-6, and the last testament Quran 21:91, and Quran 32:7-10, and CONVERSELY the pastors and magicians used the breathe of SATAN (EVIL SPIRIT) through the jinns to perform miracles Matthew 7 vs 21-23, Matthew 15 vs7-9 because they are all worshipping Jesus Christ pbuh in vain instead of the only one true God John 17 vs3, John 20 vs 17, Mark 12 vs 29-30 , Isaiah 43:11,. Isaiah 42:8 etc Jesus Christ pbuh was never killed for the sin of anyone Deuteronomy 24: 16, Ezekiel 18:1-end, Jeremiah 31:30, and the last testament Quran 53:38, JESUS CHRIST pbuh prayers for the mercy of Allah against the shameful deaths on the cross John 19:17 or hanging on the tree Act 10 vs 39 Galatians 3:13, Deuteronomy 21:23, Deuteronomy 18 vs 20-23, and as a righteous teacher Matthew 23 vs 9-10, Matthew 7 vs 7, Matthew 21:22 , his prayers were answered in Hebrew 5:7 , John 12 vs 31-33, and the goal of all the christians shall be HELL FIRE according to Jesus Christ pbuh in Mathew 7 vs21-23 and Matthew 15 vs7-9 and 1 Corinthians 15 vs 13-20.
What I despise about religion is when good things happen then..’ thank god’. But when bad things happen then ‘ well that’s life’. I remember when a kidnapped child was found six months after she was abducted,held captive, and raped repeatedly…some one held a sign saying’ Yes, god is great’. WTF? God willed her return after her horror?
10:00 this point about adherence to dogma vs open expression and debate is very well made. It's an issue just as much for secular people, I think. I have an interest in biblical scholarship as well, and most of those scholars I am interested in are non-religious, but many of them seem just as adherent to dogma and as ready to belittle and ostracise someone who disagrees as someone from a dogmatic religion.
All the questions i asked, and never got answered ... Yasir, here is some free advice: 1) keep talking in convolutions and obfuscations, and you will increase the population of ex-muslims 2) remain silent... and let people think for themselves .. and who knows, you may hold onto some people ... 3) be honest and clear and agree that neither I nor you know if there is ANY god, and endeavour to make this life the best we can for each other and the planet (untill we have convincing verifieable evidence for a deity)
Yasser Al Qadhi is a smart and reasonable man I feel like he's someone who has looked at the truth in the eye and choose to go back to his faith regardless. Almost seems like he actively chooses to believe against his best intuitions.
Your personal opinion on free will is the same as mine. It is something I have always thought about, so its interesting to see it come from someone else! Keep up the great work!
Allah is adamant that we should absolutely believe that HE is all knowing, omniscient but Allah also wants us to lead our life pretending that Allah is just as ignorant as us about the future and must be cajoled regularly ( through prayers ) to influence that future😄. Allah has also predetermined ( so He says in the Quran ) whether we will become "true believers " or not and therefore end up in Heaven or He'll. But we must ilive our lives pretending that nothing has been decided yet and Allah is just as anxious as us to see whether we keep to the faith and end up in Heaven. Truly Allah is incomprehensible to ordinary humans ( excepting Islamic apologists , they are extraordinary and therefore they know ). My own view as an ordinary human is that - Allah is incomprehensible, simply because He doesn't exist ! 😄😄
Or because Al Lah is not who he or Muhammad claims him to be..the God of the Bible Yahweh, Al Lah is an imposter, a counterfeit, the greatest of all deceivers.🙄 Could he be a devil ? Just as as the true God of the Bible describes, and Al Lah himself boasts about. Muslims need to question who it is they blindly worship.
@barney1942 God knows everything however we have free will to choose, right from Genesis. He can intervene but there's no predestination like in Islam where Muhammad picked up every error from heretical ideologies and pagans. Islam is as pagan as Hinduism and every other 'ism'.
Sounds so serious and profound, but when we think about it, they're essentially like 2 kids arguing about what santa will say when they sent him their wishlist
Muslims claim the Christian doctrine of the Trinity is a logical contradiction failing to acknowledge that their own belief in predestination versus the idea of a compassionate and all knowing God is also a logical contradiction.If God is beyond space and time than human logic doesn't apply to God!
Depends on whether or not you are a literalist/fundamentalist Christian or not.Whether you like it or not western culture has been hugely influenced by Christianity both in good ways and bad ways - I like to concentrate on the good which I think more than outweigh the bad. When I look at polytheistic cultures I can't see in which way any of them had any superiority over Christian influenced cultures@@integrationalpolytheism
@@kaloarepo288 well I agree that literalism is the problem. The Christianity I was part of was literalist though and even now I struggle to think of nonliteralists as being actually christians. For protestants at least, they should really be viewing the bible as the inspired word of God, thoigh many (most?) these days just pick and choose what they want to take as metaphor or allegory because that's the only way it can even hope to make any kind of coherent sense. But yes, the bible does tell us that everything was written about us before we were born. Paul says it in Romans 8. If so, then god clearly guides and misguides as he will, just like Allah. It's not compatible with free will and so many Christians (but not our lot, since I was in a calvinist group) will just write that off fuzzily in their heads, under the heading of "god will sort it out, it's fine". It's basically the same approach as Yasir Qadhi is taking, regardless of biblical literalism.
I was brought up a Catholic but later turned against it but now in my more mature years realize it had a lot more to offer than Protestant Christianity as that concentrates on Jesus and the written word too much -you could call it Jesusism whereas traditional Catholicism had a much wider embrace with loads of tradition and a big emphasis on ritual and the sense of the sacred -in a way this was like the old paganism -and there are a lot more religious figures in it than Jesus - like the virgin Mary -which when you look at it makes it more feminist and I love the cultural and artistic aspects of it like the beautiful architecture, the art and the music.@@integrationalpolytheism
Meaning ?? it's all false or a heretical cult of old that 1 of a set of murderers laid his hands on and in so took it and changed it to suit and to control with forced fear ? Is that what you mean or ?
Hello from Sydney, Australia I'm enjoying your channel my friend and I was excited to hear brefly talk a about Pascal's Wager because it's something that im very familiar with LoL. I may not be very knowledgeable about Islam but as my entire family are fundamental Christians. I could probably write a book on Pascal's Wager because its something that my family has to use to put pressure on me when i was incredibly sick a few years ago. There are lots and lots of different versions of Pascal's Wager. But so we're both on the same page. When I say Pascal's Wager. I'm talking about an apologetic argument that attempts to demonstrate that belief in god is warranted based on decision, theory and probability. Essentially it's an assessment of risk versus reward. That tries to outline why believing in god is the safe bet given all the available information. Pascal's Wager also presumes a Christan god. It has been applied to other religions as well. But right now I'm going to take it in the original context that it was made and that assumes the existence of a Christian God Personally when someone hits me with Pascal's Wager. I like to respond using the Socratic method. That is, most of my responses are going to be in the form of a question (obviously). I'm aware that some people find this technique annoying. But I truly believe that using the socratic method is an effective tool that can lead someone towards an understanding of an issue. I'm also aware that some people dislike the Socratic method because they feel that they're somehow being tricked. Or they feel that answering a question with a question is some kind of an attempt at deception. When the opposite is infact true as in reality it's a tool used to eliminate deception. By asking people questions. I'm trying to use the socratic method to guide them towards other ways of thinking. I'm not trying to trick them I'm trying to untrick them. But I digress... If someone asks me to consider Pascal's Wager I like to ask things like: *What if you're wrong about which god is real? *If a god is real what if you're wrong about whether or not belief is the criteria upon which your afterlife is based? *What if there's a god who values intellectual honesty over blind faith? *What if there's a god who puts us in a world with many claims about many gods and he'll only reward those who rightly reject all of them on the grounds that belief isn't warranted by the available evidence? What if the muslims are right? Or the hindus? or the Jains? Or the buddhists? Or the zoroastrians? What if none of them are right? Do you really think it's wise to make a decision like this on possibility insufficient evidence? Do you think it's wise to base life and afterlife decisions on possibility insufficient evidence? What would it take to change your mind? etc... To end a discussion, I always like to leave my erstwhile Christian friends with a quote from a well known intellectual giant. In this case I'll be quoting Homer J Simpson. 'Suppose we've chosen the wrong god, everytime we go to church we're just making him madder and madder". PS Incase the person you're talking to isn't sophisticated enough to enjoy the likes of Homer J Simpson. You can always give them a softball quote from someone like Voltaire. "If you can get people to believe absurdities you can get them to commit atrocities".
@@nejlababali7901 He was saying that muslims use logic when they try to debunk other religions so they will say that trinity doesn't make sense but when you try to point to some contradiction in Islam then they say well we can't understand God, our minds are flawed etc. so basically make excuses (ofc not all muslims). Hope you get it now.
@@nejlababali7901 that is just not true! Look up the Sanna Manuscript and the different Haroof of the Quran. Read the translations in your own language and see it for what it is.
Around 13:50 I think "Do Allah.." is fine since allah (the alleged author of the quran) speaks of himself in the pluralis majestatis (is this used in english?) so referring to him as them is probably even better in islamic terms than using the singular.
35:49 I still say astagfirrulah after having any “really bad” thought or feeling about Islam or the prophet even 8 years after I stopped believing. Or when I hear others say really bad stuff about it I’ll say the same thing. The brainwashing and religious ocd is so real. I guess I still fear hell in some part deep down.
18:50 now we get to the point. This is really interesting for me because I am a former Calvinist Christian. Back then, this explanation is EXACTLY what I would have said. It is only much more recently that I realised that most Christians believe we truly have free will and that atheists tend to be determinists. To me, the question doesn't actually matter because we effectively have free will, and I guess that's the same answer yet again, but without the need for a god to be involved.
I don't think we can know tbh. Or rather I don't know if the question is valid. If reality only runs once, then how could it run differently? On the other hand, aren't we actively choosing the story every time we make a decision?
@@joerdim I mean the same as Yasir Qadhi, but without recourse to a god. Imagine you're writing a story. You've given yourself the rule that once the ink is on the paper, you can't erase it and change it (this represents the fact that we can't go back in time to redo something). However even though the final form of the story can only be one way, and once it's written you have no choice in that, you DO have choice at every stroke of the pen. That's the kind of free will we have, no? Someone reading the story once it's finished has no choice, but at the time of writing, the author apparently has all the choice. Except that you can make the point that once the story is written, there was no other story they COULD have written, or they would have written that story instead.
In the end, all Yasir Qadhi says is, shut up, don't ask these wicked questions, Allah will sort it out. In reality aĺl these words are just gaslighting, 'cause what he really thinks (or rather 'fears') is: Oh shit, this question really undermines my faith, so please stop.
I find the accusation leveled against determinists, of living life like someone who believes in free will, to be unreflected. How should a determinist act? His own action would be subject to the deterministic metaphysics, therefore he could act in any possible way without contradicting determinism.
I noticed that Yasir Qadhi (YQ) misrepresented the deterministic way of thinking. Determinism = if I want to eat, I don't expect God to feed me but I'd expect him to know what I was going to FEED MYSELF beforehand. My choice of food is up to me (free will) but if it's known by an all-knowing entity, then it can also be argued that my choice was predetermined by an all-powerful and all-knowing entity who made me crave a particular type of food. The same can be argued for a person's religious choices. The person makes a decision using his free will but if God had known of the decision/choice beforehand, it seems predetermined. YQ states that people are only deterministic where it concerns their religious obligations which is BS
It's all very well saying people cant understand everything god does however ... this topic is essential to understanding the purpose of life 8n islam. Ie we are here to be tested, so all muslims should be able to understand the question of free will
Absorbing analysis. I think we have limited free will. We can freely choose what to eat for breakfast, for example, but are limited by what foods are available and affordable. I don't think it is such a big problem
What you eat for breakfast might also be influenced by what you find delicious (which is not a choice), how nutritious it is (what makes you care about that?) And tons of other small considerations that are based on things you have no control over. Your choice is limited in so many ways that free will basically evaporates. At best we have a tiny bit of free will. This is a scary thought, but you'll get used to it :) Aladdin explained it quite well at about 57:00.
I live in Plymouth, UK - and I've just started to question Muslims about the Kibla direction, aspects of the Hajj and the Elephan Surah (105), I have about 15 videos of my telephone discussions with Muslims uploaded. As I've never been a Muslim, my background is 30 years experience evangelising Christian cults such as the Jehovah's Witnesses, I'd appreciate advice so that I can improve my own videos.
Ask them why islam say Jesus is a jew and speaks Hebrew but why did allah gave him a Greek book, the injil?? Also why do some Muslim prophets have the name yahweh in them but yahweh isn't part of Allah's 99 names???
Muslims like to harass Christians about some concepts of Christianity like the trinity and laugh at their semantic playing when they try to make it sound logical but when it comes to a kind of similar issue in Islam like Al-qadha'u w-alqadar they use the same nonsensical approach to justify it. Isn't mentioned in Quran that Quran is clarification (Tibyan) for everything. It must include the clarification of this topic too... Thanks for your effort.
@@Yeshuameanssaviourunitarians would disagree. Even if the trinity was in there that doesn't make it true; it also claims there was a global flood and we all descended from 2 people, both claims are objectively false.
@@Yeshuameanssaviour The lack of geological and archaeological evidence, the implausibility of fitting all species x 2 onto a single ark, the impossibility of koalas, tuataras and any number of other animals crossing the ocean to reach the ark before the flood, the impossibility of a 600 year old man to build the ark, the existence of other similar flood myths in other cultures... But I guess all of that can be written off if you already believe magic is real🤷🏼♂️
Christian's tend to have the same ,or very similar apologetics about free will.. Calvinist's don't believe in free will. Predestination has been a debated topic for 1000's of years even debated among the pagans Greeks Romans etc.. The Will of the God's if you will. God's will vs man's will..
AA. An observation ... These dawah boys overusing Arabic while speaking English is, it seems to me, a kind of religious "virtue signaling" (a term i hate). It reminds me of first year masters degree students who feeling insecure about the knowledge they are supposed to suddenly acquire, tend to overuse jargon that they are often reading for the first time - and only beginning to understand. In short, its a kind of intellectual immaturity. Forgivable in students - but less so in people who use it for egotistical reasons like dawah boys.
Personally, I'm a compatibilist. I don't see any value in a definition of free will that tries to isolate will entirely from the world. How I would define "Free Will" would be the ability to make decisions according to one's own criteria without external interference in the decision-making process. In other words, we all have our biases, our preferences, and everything else. That is all part of the decision making process. But as long as that decision making process is based on _our_ biases and _our_ preferences, then we have free will. Basically, whether we're biological machines or not, decision making takes a variety of inputs, processes them through our decision making process, and then produces outputs. Those outputs are the product of our free will so long as the decision was ours to make. My distinction of when we would not have free will, then, would be situations such as: (1) No longer having control of one's mind (such as due to the effects of strong mind-altering drugs, extreme mental illness, or something more fantastical like a deity influencing our decision) (2) Not having control of one's body (such as paralysis, seizures, or something more sci-fi like being wired up with electrodes in your brain) (3) Being unable to refuse (Choosing to refuse, choosing to say no, is a fundamental aspect of free will to me. This is the primary distinction between a being with free will as opposed to something like a computer, in my opinion) I find it highly likely that the majority of our lives are deterministic, but I consider this to be a _result_ of our free will, not the opposite of it. Let's say, for example, you offer me a choice between a pink ball and a green ball. I dislike pink but like green, so I'd naturally take the green ball. If you rewound time, I would choose the green ball again, for the same reason. It wouldn't matter how many times you rewound time, because my decision - based on my own preferences and decision making - would be the same in the same circumstance. Every decision we make, because it is a _decision_ (which fundamentally requires context, foreknowledge, and preferences to arrive at), will ultimately be the same for the same set of starting conditions. In fact, I find the idea of any definition not based on prior conditions, IE any definition that is not itself inherently deterministic already, to be absurd. Every piece of input we receive - whether it's experience, sensory input, etc. - is all deterministic, so a decision made based on any of these would also be inherently deterministic. The only way for a decision to truly be "free" would thus be one that is inherently random. Not determined by physics and starting conditions like a die, not time-dependent like a computer's random number generator, but truly, entirely, random. A blind, deaf, mindless random number generator seems to be the only possible manifestation of "free will" in opposition to Determinism, and yet no one would label such a thing as a "will", and likely wouldn't even call it "free", bound as it is to its own narrow rule. It becomes a term with no applicability to humans. And so I prefer to go with a concept of "free will" with actual meaning, one that is fully compatible with determinism and also able to be applied to questions of moral and legal accountability. One that is not automatically disqualified by the existence of an omniscient god (not that I believe in one of those). Theologically, then, using my definition, asking if we have free will becomes a much more relevant issue. Did Pharaoh have free will in the Old Testament when YHWH hardened his heart? Does anyone have free will in Islam where Allah "leads to Him whom He wills or leads astray him whom He wills"? Scholars and apologists can't simply confuse the issue by turning it into a debate about omniscience if one is to use my definition. A deity could easily know the outcome of every free choice in advance, based on my definition, without any issue. It's only a matter of whether that being interferes with the decision after whatever starting point it initially chooses.
That's the main point.. That's why many imams from sects coming to ask him questions to see what sects he belongs.. because they are confuse and think might left islam ☪️ I'm scared for his safety 😬
Agree 👍. YQ is digging his own grave as a scholar and will not come out of it because of the paradoxical confusion in Islam eg free will v predetermination & just v majority in hell
@@theman8070 Totally in agreement with you. Because of these confused theological paradoxes in Islam there's a preventive verse in the Qur'an that says not to ask questions. It makes sense because if you ask questions, like MH did with YQ you might sow doubt or worse become an apostate. For his own safety, YQ should stop answering questions in public. I also fear for his life as Islam demands death to apostates.
1:02:35 Well, when I was a christian I was not humble, but I did fully understand that people would not necessarily accept the same thing as me. My dad was very anti Christian and his reasons were clear. And you're right, I guess, because I'm out of that religion and am now a nonliteralist polytheist, possibly because of the questioning However why did I stay in the religion for years? Personal revelation. I don't know if Muslims customarily get this but I had personal experience with god interacting with me. Born again christians don't believe you need a vicar to intercede for you. You can pray and of course God can reply directly. There are naturalistic explanations of course, but those experiences are what kept me in the religion until I started learning some religious history and that led to some REAL questioning
Freewill and predestination is actually not a paradox,and not difficult to understand, for those of us who are gamers. If you imagine God as the programmer like the Matrix, and “reality” as open world 3D game. Then you can imagine the programmer to have put in all the rules and physics of the game, and coded all possibilities that character in the game can choose and actualise within the boundaries and rules of the game. and all the characters does, is choose between all possible paths to take. And when he makes a choice, he makes it become reality for him, and therefore is fully responsible for his choices and not the programmer.
The issue is when God knows everything that will happen because of his creation. Imagine if the programmer knew everything before running the simulation, that the act of creating the simulation was the act of writing the outcome because they knew it before it happened. In a game, the programmer does not know what route will be taken, but for an omniscient being creating the scenario and observing the outcome are one and the same.
Yasir Qadhi never answer a question, which put Islam on the spot. He always gives these rumble-jumble answers, to his listeners and mislead The truth is, that Yasir Qadhi snows that the religion of Islam makes no sense, and has no logical explanation to life most important questions. And if anyone dear ask a question, he or she is view in a very negative way, even as an enemy of Allah, Mohammed, the Quran, and Islam. The answer to the question is that if evil and hell have been predestined ,by Allah,and so was all the non Muslims were determined to go to hell, it would make Allah and evil deity, and that Islam is a lot of b.s
This was so painful to watch the entire issue of predestination-free will can be solved by simply going by the order of revelation. The most commonly accepted order, leaves Surah 9 At-Tawbah as the second to last surah revealed and says as such on free will. "Say, “Nothing will ever befall us except what Allah has destined for us. He is our Protector.” So in Allah let the believers put their trust." (9:51) Making clear there is no free will. "nothing will ever befall us except what Allah has destined" ie Allah creates all the good and evil of the world by HIS will. Wish these so called scholars were remotely as clear as the book they read.
You could attach a short transparent tape or plastic bridge at your glasses and the mask across your nose. This way you don't have to push up the mask every few seconds.
One of the most interesting and simultaneously most annoying things about Muslim apologetics is its linguistic intransigence and reification of Arabic. What I mean by that is how people insist that the religion MUST be inextricably intertwined with the Arabic language, which is also linked to ideas about Arabic being a "special" language somehow, more beautiful and more wonderfully complex than others. Also, what I mean by "intransigence" is how apologists and preachers insist upon using a plethora of Arabic words even when they are fluent in English and we have a perfectly good word in English you could translate to. But they insist upon using Arabic, which implicitly suggests that the Arabic word carries something special or spiritual that English could never fully communicate. I'm reacting especially to 7:20-7:30. Majbooreen is easily translateable to "forced" or "obliged", and for god's sake, why say "ameeq"? Just say deep. I'm very happy that I'm studying Arabic, both because I like it, and because it gives me a key to listening through the flowery bullshit. You can't fool me into thinking Islam is specialer than everything else because you whip out all these exotic-sounding words. All you're doing is creating misdirection and making discussions less open and transparent for those who don't speak Arabic. It's like people who insist on using French words to sound fancier and smarter, even when the person they're speaking to doesn't understand French. Speak to your listener.
Again, "aslan" at 7:42. "Aslan" just means "at the root" or "basically, at its base". Easily translatable. It seems like I'm harping on small things but I've listened to hours of these speakers and I actually think their insistence on using so many Arabic words (even non-specialized, basic words), creates a conversation in which the listener is meant to be awed by how marvelous and special Arabic is. Whereas not using readily available translations for words just impedes transparency and open criticism
8:55 the only time the sahaba had an "ikhtilaf" (I'm assuming based on my Arabic understanding this means a difference, or difference of opinion, why not just say this)
I'll stop noting all the instances because I'm sure it will be at least 50 by the end of the video. I also know that in this particular video, yes, two men who know that they both speak Arabic are speaking. But my point is, this same language problem occurs when I hear Muslim apologists talk to disbelievers/atheists, christians, and in general non-Arabic speakers
this is where it all begins to fall apart - incoherent theological positions that tried to outdo the Catholic teachings back in 4-5th century. coming home to roost. at least now the discussion is civilized.
Interesting post… I think your interjections are reasonable. I am a theist and we have the same issue within the Christian faith. The bible teaches both free will and Gods sovereignty. It is a difficult concept to talk about and understand. A book by Jerry Bridges; Trusting God, even when life hurts, helped me immensely in this area. I liked the way you brought up the typical Islamic argument against the trinity which I get is hard to comprehend. Perhaps there are some things that are hard or even impossible to communicate, we ourselves are very complex and difficult to understand let alone the creator of the Universe… but it’s not arrogant to try and I believe in Christ we get to glimpse his glory. 🤷🏾♂️
It's really sad that you have to cover your face,as I do, to comment on this subject. And these "religions " , cults and tribalism, are squirming in their death.
better safe than sorry,, even if u lives in the Western European countries, Canada or Aussie ur safety as an ex Mv5l1m is not really guaranteed due of so many wannabe jih4d1st living in these countries & u're not permitted to own 'iron' to defense ur self
Alladin I believe YQ was talking about the ancient jabariyyah sect of Islam in this video. I don't think he was talking about non muslim determinists or ex muslims. That's why his responses didn't seem relevant to us.
I'd love to hear Dr. Qadhi's thoughts about many of these question but applied to other primates, like chimps, which show a lot of similar behaviour to humans.
Awesome ?’s for me as a Christian I like to say that “ God gave us free will and we have no choice in the matter “ we can’t choose not to have this free will that’s God given. I hope this gives you clarity.
No it doesn't. You mean God wrote on the tablet of destiny our freewills? Question still remains does he know exactly what each person will do with that freewill? If yes, can we freely choose to act outside that knowledge? I guess your answer is no, and that's the problem.
Can't we then argue that the issue of a universe made of contingent things is something our limited minds can never be able to fully comprehend? If you can borrow into the deficiency in our intelligent to explain predestination, why can't it be used to explain the contingency argument
I keep hearing you say "deserve," "fair," "just," etc. And I think to myself, you are circling the whole point. When I was young I had long discussions with an atheist uncle (he was always cordial and respectful, as you are). He used to tell me he worked as a civilian for the military, on weapons guidance systems, "so when we drop bombs they don't fall on schools." And I would always wonder, what makes you care where they fall? What is that? Where does your sense of justice, and of reason, come from? To me, that was always the root of my belief that there had to be some sort of "God" behind it all, under it all. Not necessarily the God you are talking about here, who is admittedly very small, irrational, unjust. But something bedrock, constitutive, the thing that keeps making you want to "think critically, and think for yourself." I have read that Islam elevates the "power" of God over the "reason" of God, and through many videos of this sort, I have understood better what that means, and what the implications are. It makes me realize ever more what an incredible gift "doubt" is. No true God would ever fear it.
@SajanKumar-ru1sx I'm from Kerala. And I know so many Ex-Muslims today.. and I'm guessing this would not have been the case 30 years ago, hearing about and knowing so many Ex-Muslims. Hopefully Ex-Muslims are rising in the rest of India too.
@@HanadGaney Quran 5 101 O believers! Do not ask about any matter which, if made clear to you, may disturb you. But if you inquire about what is being revealed in the Quran, it will be made clear to you. Allah has forgiven what was done ˹in the past˺.1 And Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Forbearing.
@@timchapman5553 Knowing Muslims, some of them will mental gymnastics the Hell out of it and say this verse is talking about asking the Prophet questions directly, and that's it's totally OK to ask Muslims scholars questions about Islam and Quran
@shassarahaman5247 I don't live as if my morality is objective. I live as if my morality is established by a bunch of influences and forces, many of which I have not devoted too much time to investigating. I'm always open to it being changed with sound reasoning that convinces me. You, like Yasir Qadhi, are drawing up a straw man.
I truly hate it when they mix Arabic words when they are speaking English 😤 either speak English so non Arabic speakers so they will fully understand you or speak only Arabic for the people that speaks Arabic so they will fully understand you.
or simply recognize that more than one language exists and people will use whatever is more useful in the context. if you don't understand there are plenty of translation apps out there, and it's also not incredibly difficult to understand from context clues.
@@thevoteman I didn’t say anything about translation ,and I am all for speaking one language and translate it so people will understand the subject that you are talking about . do you think that the English speakers that doesn’t know Arabic understand Arabic words in the middle of the English sentence? By the way I am middle Eastern and I speak Arabic and English I speak fully English with English people and I speak Arabic with Arabic people . I don’t like mixing up the language for people that might not understand it I think it’s dumb.
Why does Allah call himself allamul ghuyub: knower of the unseen or unknown. Unseen is from human perspective. There's nothing unseen or unknown to Allah.
Why are non believers so arrogant? How can they expect their feeble minds to be able to comprehend the complexities of (insert your religious paradox here)? They should humble themselves. To try to understand the (insert your religious paradox here) is to believe you can understand (insert your god's name here) or have His/Her knowledge! Our minds our finite. We don't even remember what we had for breakfast last week! We should be humble and recognise our limits and submit ourselves to the (insert your paradoxical doctrine here) for the (insert paradoxical doctrine here) transcends our mathematics, logic and language. These things are human inventions and are incapable of encompassing the true nature of (insert your god's name here). This generic template should come with every holy book.
Your claim on the assumption that 'a' God exist. Therefore just prove 'a' God exist in the first place to make your claim valid.
@@timetoreason7090 my assumption that god exists proves god exists? I'm not sure I understand what you mean.
@@timetoreason7090My brother in atheism, you are setting the bar way too low. Having a divine (or divine beings) that exists does not mean that it (they) has (have) to be of a particular set of attributes. That also has to be proven.
@@timetoreason7090 It doesn't prove anything of the sort, what nonsense are you talking about.
Ahahaaha you nailed it! 😂💯
Loved this 👍
Do you believe in free will?
@@albahr12 do you
@@civilisedhumanbeing
Yes
@@albahr12Are you Muslim?
@@albahr12 Regarding freewill I don't have a belief one way or the other. What I do know is that humans are largely the products of Nature & Nurture, so if freewill exists on some level then it is, at best, minimal. But it could also simply be an illusion and I'm aware some Neuroscientists lean that way. But as I say I don't have a belief either way. I simply don't know and it has no impact on my belief that religions are man-made.
36:28 He said, "This question has been asked since the beginning of time, before Islam." But something that puzzled me is if Islam was the correct religion and everyone is born Muslim (as Muslims all say,) and there has always been such thing as Islam, then how can there be a time before Islam??? 🤔
Claiming that everyone is born a Muslim means that Islam is the most apostated religion ever since the majority do not follow Islam.
They are confuse... sometimes they say Adam is the first muslim.. and sometimes they say Muhammed is the first Muslim.. that's islam for your... everything is halal and everything haram...
@@theman8070are you a muslim ,we don't believe that so shutup
Islam has confusing theology! Not only that, but Islam has a destructive philosophy against non-believers. This religion cannot be from God but a mad man.The results are devastated and humanity continues to suffer under this Evil cult.
@@lefthook2 So Jews are actually Muslims? If that's the case, why do Muslims dislike Jews?? Why is there a literal WHOLE conflict between Israel & Palestine where Palestine doesn't want to give land to Israel AT ALL because of Islamic religion now allowing Jews to have a country? (I was told this by my very religious muslim parents.) I mean, no one had a problem or outwardly spoke up when places such as Egypt, British Empire or Ottoman Empire controlled/ruled Palestinian people, but when Israel does, people don't like it... But why do they care about if Jews control the place if Jews are also (by your logic) Muslim (Jews did it first so they are Muslim by your logic.)
Why do Muslims call Jews, Christians, Infidels, etc "the worst of creatures" if Jews and Christians (by your definition) are Muslim because of the belief in 1 god? Wouldn't they still be treated like Muslims by other Muslims??
a big problem with Islam when it comes to discussions about deep philosophical topics is that a Muslim can never take a reasonable philosophical argument to its logical conclusion if that argument undermines the “majesty” of Allah or leads them to make a blasphemous implication (which could take them out of the fold of Islam). it’s a mental block for so many Muslims. this is exactly why YQ goes on a tangent to strawman the argument and question the intention behind a question like “what is the point of making du’a or salah if everything is already predetermined by Allah from the beginning?”. the free will vs qadr argument was something i struggled with as Muslim, and whenever i’d ask a sheikh to give me an answer that made sense (and took into account the fairness of Jahannam), they’d shut down the conversation by questioning my intentions and even warning me that asking too many questions about this topic could lead me astray. awesome video, Aladdin!
Even about about apostasy: "You didnt leave Islam. Allah made you forget the benefits in this world and the world after ☝️"
Because they can't answer.....
Free will always incompatible with determinism
you clearly have never looked up Islamic philosophers like ibn Sina or Ibn Rushd and what they said about these deep questions like free will that continues to be argued about by philosophers today. even atheist today claim free will and consciousness doesn't exist and is all an illusion. so laying all these deep questions on Muslims, is very hypocritical and typical behaviour of chrstans and atheist
"problem with Islam when it comes to discussions about deep philosophical topics is that a Muslim can never take a reasonable philosophical argument to its logical conclusion ......blablablabla" this accusation against muslims sounds more like a projection and admission
Muslims literally resurrected Egyptian Greek philosophy and contributed to it, which then was copied by western Europe. so your nonsense against muslims as whole group makes no sense. philosophers like ibn Sina have even been condemned as deviants for their philosophical works .
these anti Muslim bigotry and insults may sound great in your mind, but you must always see if they make sense with reality and what we know of history. so your false claim that Muslims rejected philosophy only makes sense if you ignore history or if by "muslims" you mean the salafi hanballi school of thought who reject reason, and paint every Muslim as belong to that hanbali school
@@homer1273 so, back to the original question and response. Why can’t he square the circle as the question requires?
I notice you don’t even attempt to answer it, just cast shade on the person who has the cheek to point out the double bind Dr Quadi is trapped in as the logical outcome of his position.
Excellent stream. More of these please!
I tried to boost the algorithm by watching on two devices. 😇
press like and sharing it also helps.
so glad you were able to figure out how to resume streams safely!!
Found your stuff from the video with cosmic skeptic. Recently had friends take interest in Islam and found myself looking for a better understanding of my own position on it. I really enjoy your stopping and articulating the spots where they shift languages.
I feel like without your interruptions, I would be lost in what they are even arguing about.
Thank you for taking the time to make it more digestible.
Islam IN Brain OUT 😂😂😂
That's a Brilliant Saying 👏
My ancestors said once you take a Shahada one's brain cells cease to function
Islamic parents groom their kids to dump their brain cells each time the go to the masjid😂
😂😂 I love it!!!
nice to see you so active recently
In Q6:163. Muhammad (not Allah) says he is the first Muslim.
That would mean Adam, Abraham, Moses and Jesus were not Muslim as they came before.
I really hope Aladdin will cover YQs other lectures or his Seerah series. They are a gold mine, especially the parts about Mary the Copt and the battle or Badr.
This was a special video, mate. You’ve really outdone yourself this time.
There is no question that can stump Hazrat Yasir Qadhi, he just doesn't want to unleash his secret knowledge on us intellectual peasants, lest our minds explode due to the sheer magnitude of his awesomeness. We should be grateful for his humility, he's like the Steven Seagal of ilm ul ghayb.
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They are trying to get him but want more evidence... the different sects are checking if he is with them or not... I believe he left but scared for his life...
@@ApostateAladdinwhy is yasir Qadhi talking about cheating 😂? When caught cheating started threatening from Quran to his wives that my God provide me with better wives but can’t help him from poison ☠️ ? I am suffering from 3 years from poison from meat 🍖 that I tasted at Khyber. I think shias are correct that it was the wives 😂. I can certainly understand the reason after watching cheating video by yasir Qadhi and reading 📖. No wonder our Momins don’t want us ever to read our own books 📚
Aladdin, you have one of the best channels on critiquing Islam. You are very articulate, intelligent, kind.
I do not understand why channels like " Christian Prince" who can' t even speak English( English is not even my first language, but I am able to convey my thoughts in a logical way) the way he expresses himself is absolutely horrid. He is unable to communicate logically, yet he has over 100 k subscribers. It makes no sense.
I hope you will reach the great success you deserve.
Millions of subs.
Thank you for your work.
This has been your best commentary for me to date.
Your analysis is thought provoking!
Well done. This is what we expect from you, critiquing Islam especially giving explanations on Arabic terms, and how they relate to Islam. This is how the message should be delivered to non Muslims. And this should be applied to all the Muslims who join the call in show. Cheers
Those random arab words are just a form of arab supremacy and kinda cringe.
@@sihingvonfelix4251 I just found out that you have replied only when sorted "newest first" if not your comments and few others are hidden! Yes, YT is a crazy world, this is for your information. Since noticing this years ago now I read comments after sorting newest first, but most do not do that, but they assume they see all and you also feel that YT had posted your comments and replies. YT is another deceiver!!!
I think YQ correcting him saying "Do Allah" vs "does Allah" might be because using the word do would imply Allah is plural, do they vs does he. I still am convinced YQ doesn't believe a word he's saying though.
Missed this live but glad I caught another excellent stream!
Haven't had the chance to watch this yet, but looking forward to watching it soon! Keep doing your thing, Aladdin!
I've watched it now. I think you did a great job explaining their views fairly and critiquing it fairly.
If I'm not mistaken, YQ say we are not able to understand this paradox, but at the same time he can explain it over a longer format, but that is also arrogant to try to understand?? Is that what he is saying?
If anyone has visited the original video you will notice all the comments has been turned off. But strangely for other videos including ones Yasir Quadhi appearing have comments on. Why Muslims shy away from comments, opinions and constructive criticism of their faith, teachings as well as practices.
It's called being ashamed of the lies I think 🤔
They are cowards.. they hiding questing their fellow Muslims are asking and the believe if others see them.. they will doubt islam ☪️
Muslims found it difficult to answer simple questions because of the paradoxical confusion in philosophy and practice. If you listen to Muslim debaters they are as confusing as the believers. What a disaster. Heads off to ex-Muslims who left the cult.
15:00 the evasion is intense, and you say it comes from fear of Allah? Surely an educated man knows that the truth can always stand any amount of scrutiny?
Wow, so we should assume something that is beyond our comprehension. What a useful way of living our lives!
Hmm. Tricky.
I think it's clear we should be empowering each other to develop skills of analysis, interpretation, critical reasoning, empirical reasoning and growing knowledge.
Traditional Islam seems to discourage this ... But that's not odd. So did Christianity before Martin Luther came around. Judaism, less so.
But we also live in a world now where countless people don't recognize the limits of their knowledge or the limits of current human knowledge, which we continue to expand. There's a kind of naive arrogance in that. It's best embodied by the theistic claim to "know" (take on faith) things that, put simply, aren't proven or provable
Great dissection Aladdin.
The discussion regarding freewill and predestination is one of my favorite topics.
Keep up with the work buddy
They want us christians to explain the Trinity logically, but when they cannot explain the quran, they say "Allah knows best"
Double standard
That's not when "Allah knows best" is used. It's used when there is a valid differences of opinion between scholars.
Misunderstanding occurs when you come with biases
the think is mate neither your religion nor islam is right
So dont have double standards
@@yousifahmed8096 the thing is mate, my religion Christianity tolerates you. Islam doesn't
As an ex Muslim either are not good in my opinion or any religion in particular so yath really i dont thing Jesse give shit about me or anyone because the guy is dead so yath mate dont speak bullshit we have seen it from humans like you the only difference is the clothes and god
the word arrogant is just shaming language designed to stop thinking in its tracks.
An excellent deconstruction. One hundred more of these such streams please! 🎉😊
Reason on the FACT that Jesus Christ pbuh was CREATED by Allah's Breathe ( HOLY SPIRIT) through the best of the Angels Gabriel pbuh Luke 1:11-end, and with the miraculous WORD "BE " to create Jesus Christ pbuh in the womb of Mary pbuh ( Job 15:14, Matthew 19:17-18, Mark 10 vs 17 -18, Luke 18:18-19, John 4:34, John 5 vs 30, John 5 vs 37-38, John 6:38, John 13 vs 16, John 14 vs 28, John 17 vs3, John 20 vs 17 etc) and interestingly enough all human beings were created likewise according to psalm 33:6, psalm 104:30, Isaiah 64:8, Job 33 vs 4-6, and the last testament Quran 21:91, and Quran 32:7-10, and CONVERSELY the pastors and magicians used the breathe of SATAN (EVIL SPIRIT) through the jinns to perform miracles Matthew 7 vs 21-23, Matthew 15 vs7-9 because they are all worshipping Jesus Christ pbuh in vain instead of the only one true God John 17 vs3, John 20 vs 17, Mark 12 vs 29-30 , Isaiah 43:11,. Isaiah 42:8 etc Jesus Christ pbuh was never killed for the sin of anyone Deuteronomy 24: 16, Ezekiel 18:1-end, Jeremiah 31:30, and the last testament Quran 53:38, JESUS CHRIST pbuh prayers for the mercy of Allah against the shameful deaths on the cross John 19:17 or hanging on the tree Act 10 vs 39 Galatians 3:13, Deuteronomy 21:23, Deuteronomy 18 vs 20-23, and as a righteous teacher Matthew 23 vs 9-10, Matthew 7 vs 7, Matthew 21:22 , his prayers were answered in Hebrew 5:7 , John 12 vs 31-33, and the goal of all the christians shall be HELL FIRE according to Jesus Christ pbuh in Mathew 7 vs21-23 and Matthew 15 vs7-9 and 1 Corinthians 15 vs 13-20.
Qadhi doing the moon walk didn’t know he could dance like that
What I despise about religion is when good things happen then..’ thank god’. But when bad things happen then ‘ well that’s life’. I remember when a kidnapped child was found six months after she was abducted,held captive, and raped repeatedly…some one held a sign saying’ Yes, god is great’. WTF? God willed her return after her horror?
We need more people in the world like You Aladdin!!
I’d love to see you tackle some of Hamza Tzortzis. He’s a very crafty philosophical Islamic apologist.
10:00 this point about adherence to dogma vs open expression and debate is very well made. It's an issue just as much for secular people, I think.
I have an interest in biblical scholarship as well, and most of those scholars I am interested in are non-religious, but many of them seem just as adherent to dogma and as ready to belittle and ostracise someone who disagrees as someone from a dogmatic religion.
All the questions i asked, and never got answered ... Yasir, here is some free advice:
1) keep talking in convolutions and obfuscations, and you will increase the population of ex-muslims
2) remain silent... and let people think for themselves .. and who knows, you may hold onto some people ...
3) be honest and clear and agree that neither I nor you know if there is ANY god, and endeavour to make this life the best we can for each other and the planet (untill we have convincing verifieable evidence for a deity)
I appreciate that you are one of the few people that hold up Islam to scrutiny that is long overdue!
Gotta comment for the algorythm ;)
This was excellent. Thank you for posting. Cheers.
Yasser Al Qadhi is a smart and reasonable man I feel like he's someone who has looked at the truth in the eye and choose to go back to his faith regardless. Almost seems like he actively chooses to believe against his best intuitions.
You mean by splitting moons and talking queer ponies and marrying children ??? Oh ok then only if you say so ha?
Your personal opinion on free will is the same as mine. It is something I have always thought about, so its interesting to see it come from someone else! Keep up the great work!
Allah is adamant that we should absolutely believe that HE is all knowing, omniscient but Allah also wants us to lead our life pretending that Allah is just as ignorant as us about the future and must be cajoled regularly ( through prayers ) to influence that future😄. Allah has also predetermined ( so He says in the Quran ) whether we will become "true believers " or not and therefore end up in Heaven or He'll. But we must ilive our lives pretending that nothing has been decided yet and Allah is just as anxious as us to see whether we keep to the faith and end up in Heaven. Truly Allah is incomprehensible to ordinary humans ( excepting Islamic apologists , they are extraordinary and therefore they know ). My own view as an ordinary human is that - Allah is incomprehensible, simply because He doesn't exist ! 😄😄
Or because Al Lah is not who he or Muhammad claims him to be..the God of the Bible Yahweh, Al Lah is an imposter, a counterfeit, the greatest of all deceivers.🙄 Could he be a devil ? Just as as the true God of the Bible describes, and Al Lah himself boasts about. Muslims need to question who it is they blindly worship.
@barney1942 God knows everything however we have free will to choose, right from Genesis. He can intervene but there's no predestination like in Islam where Muhammad picked up every error from heretical ideologies and pagans. Islam is as pagan as Hinduism and every other 'ism'.
@@nancymarusic3064 Atheism? Socialism? Explain how these are Pagan?
Sounds so serious and profound, but when we think about it, they're essentially like 2 kids arguing about what santa will say when they sent him their wishlist
He looked like a guilty person being interrogated and trying to lie his way out of it.
The body language! Lol!
Muslims claim the Christian doctrine of the Trinity is a logical contradiction failing to acknowledge that their own belief in predestination versus the idea of a compassionate and all knowing God is also a logical contradiction.If God is beyond space and time than human logic doesn't apply to God!
The predestination paradox is also in Christianity, but most christians just choose to ignore it. Cognitive dissonance is an artform for them.
Depends on whether or not you are a literalist/fundamentalist Christian or not.Whether you like it or not western culture has been hugely influenced by Christianity both in good ways and bad ways - I like to concentrate on the good which I think more than outweigh the bad. When I look at polytheistic cultures I can't see in which way any of them had any superiority over Christian influenced cultures@@integrationalpolytheism
@@integrationalpolytheismHow so?
@@kaloarepo288 well I agree that literalism is the problem.
The Christianity I was part of was literalist though and even now I struggle to think of nonliteralists as being actually christians.
For protestants at least, they should really be viewing the bible as the inspired word of God, thoigh many (most?) these days just pick and choose what they want to take as metaphor or allegory because that's the only way it can even hope to make any kind of coherent sense.
But yes, the bible does tell us that everything was written about us before we were born. Paul says it in Romans 8. If so, then god clearly guides and misguides as he will, just like Allah. It's not compatible with free will and so many Christians (but not our lot, since I was in a calvinist group) will just write that off fuzzily in their heads, under the heading of "god will sort it out, it's fine". It's basically the same approach as Yasir Qadhi is taking, regardless of biblical literalism.
I was brought up a Catholic but later turned against it but now in my more mature years realize it had a lot more to offer than Protestant Christianity as that concentrates on Jesus and the written word too much -you could call it Jesusism whereas traditional Catholicism had a much wider embrace with loads of tradition and a big emphasis on ritual and the sense of the sacred -in a way this was like the old paganism -and there are a lot more religious figures in it than Jesus - like the virgin Mary -which when you look at it makes it more feminist and I love the cultural and artistic aspects of it like the beautiful architecture, the art and the music.@@integrationalpolytheism
One day when people will be nicely educated then whole Muslim nation will be able to understand the truth.
Meaning ?? it's all false or a heretical cult of old that 1 of a set of murderers laid his hands on and in so took it and changed it to suit and to control with forced fear ? Is that what you mean or ?
If they are educated then all will leave islam.
Islam is against education
Hello from Sydney, Australia
I'm enjoying your channel my friend and I was excited to hear brefly talk a about Pascal's Wager because it's something that im very familiar with LoL.
I may not be very knowledgeable about Islam but as my entire family are fundamental Christians. I could probably write a book on Pascal's Wager because its something that my family has to use to put pressure on me when i was incredibly sick a few years ago.
There are lots and lots of different versions of Pascal's Wager. But so we're both on the same page. When I say Pascal's Wager. I'm talking about an apologetic argument that attempts to demonstrate that belief in god is warranted based on decision, theory and
probability. Essentially it's an assessment of risk versus reward. That tries to outline why believing in god is the safe bet given all the available information.
Pascal's Wager also presumes a Christan god. It has been applied to other religions as well. But right now I'm going to take it in the original context that it was made and that assumes the existence of a Christian God
Personally when someone hits me with Pascal's Wager. I like to respond using the Socratic method.
That is, most of my responses are going to be in the form of a question (obviously).
I'm aware that some people find this technique annoying.
But I truly believe that using the socratic method is an effective tool that can lead someone towards an understanding of an issue.
I'm also aware that some people dislike the Socratic method because they feel that they're somehow being
tricked. Or they feel that answering a question with a question is some kind of an attempt at deception. When the opposite is infact true as in reality it's a tool used to eliminate deception.
By asking people questions.
I'm trying to use the socratic method to
guide them towards other ways of thinking.
I'm not trying to trick them I'm trying to untrick them. But I digress...
If someone asks me to consider Pascal's Wager I like to ask things like:
*What if you're wrong about which god is
real?
*If a god is real what if you're wrong about whether or not belief is the criteria upon which your afterlife is based?
*What if there's a god who values intellectual honesty over blind faith?
*What if there's a god who puts us in a world with many claims about many gods
and he'll only reward those who rightly reject
all of them on the grounds that belief isn't warranted by the available evidence?
What if the muslims are right?
Or the hindus?
or the Jains?
Or the buddhists?
Or the zoroastrians?
What if none of them are right?
Do you really think it's wise to make a decision like this on possibility insufficient evidence?
Do you think it's wise to base life and afterlife decisions on
possibility insufficient evidence?
What would it take to change your mind?
etc...
To end a discussion, I always like to leave my erstwhile Christian friends with a quote from a well known intellectual giant.
In this case I'll be quoting Homer J Simpson.
'Suppose we've chosen the wrong god, everytime we go to church we're just making
him madder and madder".
PS Incase the person you're talking to isn't sophisticated enough to enjoy the likes of Homer J Simpson.
You can always give them a softball quote from someone like Voltaire.
"If you can get people to believe absurdities you can get them to commit atrocities".
Great video. Please keep up the good work. All religions I have studied have serious contradictions and assert things without significant proof.
Brilliant as always 😊
the typical yasir qadhi explanation. we cant understand we are dumb we are stupid is his answer to every difficult question
Brilliant work Aladdin 🎉
Such a brilliant point about this incomprehensible Allah in Islam, and Muslim criticism of the concept of Trinity based on logic.
What logic Trinity is nonsense, and Everybody knows it you are so delusional, l feel bad for you.
@@nejlababali7901 I agree it’s all nonsense, trinity and the Quran too!
@@nejlababali7901 He was saying that muslims use logic when they try to debunk other religions so they will say that trinity doesn't make sense but when you try to point to some contradiction in Islam then they say well we can't understand God, our minds are flawed etc. so basically make excuses (ofc not all muslims). Hope you get it now.
@@momo19991 not the Koran, just because the Bible is nonsens, the Koran is recited so no-one can change it unlike the Bible
@@nejlababali7901 that is just not true! Look up the Sanna Manuscript and the different Haroof of the Quran. Read the translations in your own language and see it for what it is.
It’s terrible when the Superhero you invented turns out to be illogical
"Superhero" would be a stretch, more like Sadistic Egotist
Great video! Thank you!
Around 13:50 I think "Do Allah.." is fine since allah (the alleged author of the quran) speaks of himself in the pluralis majestatis (is this used in english?) so referring to him as them is probably even better in islamic terms than using the singular.
Qadhi is trying to get back in dawah mode since his holes in the narrative debacle
35:49 I still say astagfirrulah after having any “really bad” thought or feeling about Islam or the prophet even 8 years after I stopped believing. Or when I hear others say really bad stuff about it I’ll say the same thing. The brainwashing and religious ocd is so real. I guess I still fear hell in some part deep down.
I feel like..... There are..... Holes in the narrative....
18:50 now we get to the point. This is really interesting for me because I am a former Calvinist Christian. Back then, this explanation is EXACTLY what I would have said. It is only much more recently that I realised that most Christians believe we truly have free will and that atheists tend to be determinists. To me, the question doesn't actually matter because we effectively have free will, and I guess that's the same answer yet again, but without the need for a god to be involved.
Do you think we have libertarian free will?
I don't think we can know tbh. Or rather I don't know if the question is valid.
If reality only runs once, then how could it run differently? On the other hand, aren't we actively choosing the story every time we make a decision?
@@integrationalpolytheism Then what do you mean by "we effectively have free will"?
@@joerdim I mean the same as Yasir Qadhi, but without recourse to a god.
Imagine you're writing a story. You've given yourself the rule that once the ink is on the paper, you can't erase it and change it (this represents the fact that we can't go back in time to redo something).
However even though the final form of the story can only be one way, and once it's written you have no choice in that, you DO have choice at every stroke of the pen. That's the kind of free will we have, no?
Someone reading the story once it's finished has no choice, but at the time of writing, the author apparently has all the choice.
Except that you can make the point that once the story is written, there was no other story they COULD have written, or they would have written that story instead.
@@integrationalpolytheism We can do what we want but we cannot choose what we want.
In the end, all Yasir Qadhi says is, shut up, don't ask these wicked questions, Allah will sort it out.
In reality aĺl these words are just gaslighting, 'cause what he really thinks (or rather 'fears') is:
Oh shit, this question really undermines my faith, so please stop.
I find the accusation leveled against determinists, of living life like someone who believes in free will, to be unreflected. How should a determinist act? His own action would be subject to the deterministic metaphysics, therefore he could act in any possible way without contradicting determinism.
Very good Brother
I noticed that Yasir Qadhi (YQ) misrepresented the deterministic way of thinking. Determinism = if I want to eat, I don't expect God to feed me but I'd expect him to know what I was going to FEED MYSELF beforehand. My choice of food is up to me (free will) but if it's known by an all-knowing entity, then it can also be argued that my choice was predetermined by an all-powerful and all-knowing entity who made me crave a particular type of food. The same can be argued for a person's religious choices. The person makes a decision using his free will but if God had known of the decision/choice beforehand, it seems predetermined. YQ states that people are only deterministic where it concerns their religious obligations which is BS
It's all very well saying people cant understand everything god does however ... this topic is essential to understanding the purpose of life 8n islam. Ie we are here to be tested, so all muslims should be able to understand the question of free will
Absorbing analysis. I think we have limited free will. We can freely choose what to eat for breakfast, for example, but are limited by what foods are available and affordable. I don't think it is such a big problem
What you eat for breakfast might also be influenced by what you find delicious (which is not a choice), how nutritious it is (what makes you care about that?) And tons of other small considerations that are based on things you have no control over. Your choice is limited in so many ways that free will basically evaporates. At best we have a tiny bit of free will. This is a scary thought, but you'll get used to it :)
Aladdin explained it quite well at about 57:00.
You only looking at the food side.. how about sex, thief, lying, hate, insulting.. not praying.. not helping others when you can?? Etc
Islam just uses whataboutery
I live in Plymouth, UK - and I've just started to question Muslims about the Kibla direction, aspects of the Hajj and the Elephan Surah (105), I have about 15 videos of my telephone discussions with Muslims uploaded. As I've never been a Muslim, my background is 30 years experience evangelising Christian cults such as the Jehovah's Witnesses, I'd appreciate advice so that I can improve my own videos.
Ask them why islam say Jesus is a jew and speaks Hebrew but why did allah gave him a Greek book, the injil?? Also why do some Muslim prophets have the name yahweh in them but yahweh isn't part of Allah's 99 names???
fantaztic analysis of the hole-y yasir qadhi and the imam
Hole-y. 😂
Dissecting apologetics is backkkk!
Muslims like to harass Christians about some concepts of Christianity like the trinity and laugh at their semantic playing when they try to make it sound logical but when it comes to a kind of similar issue in Islam like Al-qadha'u w-alqadar they use the same nonsensical approach to justify it.
Isn't mentioned in Quran that Quran is clarification (Tibyan) for everything. It must include the clarification of this topic too...
Thanks for your effort.
They obsessed with The trinity yet Its in the OT so clearly.
@@Yeshuameanssaviourunitarians would disagree. Even if the trinity was in there that doesn't make it true; it also claims there was a global flood and we all descended from 2 people, both claims are objectively false.
@@BubbaF0wpend have u read it?So the flood thing,what makes it false
@@Yeshuameanssaviour The lack of geological and archaeological evidence, the implausibility of fitting all species x 2 onto a single ark, the impossibility of koalas, tuataras and any number of other animals crossing the ocean to reach the ark before the flood, the impossibility of a 600 year old man to build the ark, the existence of other similar flood myths in other cultures...
But I guess all of that can be written off if you already believe magic is real🤷🏼♂️
Christian's tend to have the same ,or very similar apologetics about free will.. Calvinist's don't believe in free will. Predestination has been a debated topic for 1000's of years even debated among the pagans Greeks Romans etc.. The Will of the God's if you will.
God's will vs man's will..
St Augustine of Hippo one of the great fathers of the church is probably the key thinker on this topic -a lot of Calvin's ideas came from him.
yeah, the free will thing is even discussed in modern day . many neurologist's don't believe we have free will based on the findings @@kaloarepo288
It's only a mystery as far as it is an irreconcilable contradiction.
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AA. An observation ... These dawah boys overusing Arabic while speaking English is, it seems to me, a kind of religious "virtue signaling" (a term i hate).
It reminds me of first year masters degree students who feeling insecure about the knowledge they are supposed to suddenly acquire, tend to overuse jargon that they are often reading for the first time - and only beginning to understand.
In short, its a kind of intellectual immaturity. Forgivable in students - but less so in people who use it for egotistical reasons like dawah boys.
Personally, I'm a compatibilist. I don't see any value in a definition of free will that tries to isolate will entirely from the world. How I would define "Free Will" would be the ability to make decisions according to one's own criteria without external interference in the decision-making process.
In other words, we all have our biases, our preferences, and everything else. That is all part of the decision making process. But as long as that decision making process is based on _our_ biases and _our_ preferences, then we have free will.
Basically, whether we're biological machines or not, decision making takes a variety of inputs, processes them through our decision making process, and then produces outputs. Those outputs are the product of our free will so long as the decision was ours to make.
My distinction of when we would not have free will, then, would be situations such as:
(1) No longer having control of one's mind (such as due to the effects of strong mind-altering drugs, extreme mental illness, or something more fantastical like a deity influencing our decision)
(2) Not having control of one's body (such as paralysis, seizures, or something more sci-fi like being wired up with electrodes in your brain)
(3) Being unable to refuse (Choosing to refuse, choosing to say no, is a fundamental aspect of free will to me. This is the primary distinction between a being with free will as opposed to something like a computer, in my opinion)
I find it highly likely that the majority of our lives are deterministic, but I consider this to be a _result_ of our free will, not the opposite of it. Let's say, for example, you offer me a choice between a pink ball and a green ball. I dislike pink but like green, so I'd naturally take the green ball. If you rewound time, I would choose the green ball again, for the same reason. It wouldn't matter how many times you rewound time, because my decision - based on my own preferences and decision making - would be the same in the same circumstance. Every decision we make, because it is a _decision_ (which fundamentally requires context, foreknowledge, and preferences to arrive at), will ultimately be the same for the same set of starting conditions.
In fact, I find the idea of any definition not based on prior conditions, IE any definition that is not itself inherently deterministic already, to be absurd. Every piece of input we receive - whether it's experience, sensory input, etc. - is all deterministic, so a decision made based on any of these would also be inherently deterministic. The only way for a decision to truly be "free" would thus be one that is inherently random. Not determined by physics and starting conditions like a die, not time-dependent like a computer's random number generator, but truly, entirely, random.
A blind, deaf, mindless random number generator seems to be the only possible manifestation of "free will" in opposition to Determinism, and yet no one would label such a thing as a "will", and likely wouldn't even call it "free", bound as it is to its own narrow rule. It becomes a term with no applicability to humans.
And so I prefer to go with a concept of "free will" with actual meaning, one that is fully compatible with determinism and also able to be applied to questions of moral and legal accountability. One that is not automatically disqualified by the existence of an omniscient god (not that I believe in one of those).
Theologically, then, using my definition, asking if we have free will becomes a much more relevant issue. Did Pharaoh have free will in the Old Testament when YHWH hardened his heart? Does anyone have free will in Islam where Allah "leads to Him whom He wills or leads astray him whom He wills"? Scholars and apologists can't simply confuse the issue by turning it into a debate about omniscience if one is to use my definition. A deity could easily know the outcome of every free choice in advance, based on my definition, without any issue. It's only a matter of whether that being interferes with the decision after whatever starting point it initially chooses.
Yasir qadhi thinking reasonably creates more problems for him 😅
That's the main point.. That's why many imams from sects coming to ask him questions to see what sects he belongs.. because they are confuse and think might left islam ☪️ I'm scared for his safety 😬
Agree 👍. YQ is digging his own grave as a scholar and will not come out of it because of the paradoxical confusion in Islam eg free will v predetermination & just v majority in hell
@@theman8070 Totally in agreement with you. Because of these confused theological paradoxes in Islam there's a preventive verse in the Qur'an that says not to ask questions. It makes sense because if you ask questions, like MH did with YQ you might sow doubt or worse become an apostate. For his own safety, YQ should stop answering questions in public. I also fear for his life as Islam demands death to apostates.
Seems like Yasir always closes his eyes when he comes up with an evasive answer. Maybe he is afraid that his look might expose him.
1:02:35 Well, when I was a christian I was not humble, but I did fully understand that people would not necessarily accept the same thing as me. My dad was very anti Christian and his reasons were clear.
And you're right, I guess, because I'm out of that religion and am now a nonliteralist polytheist, possibly because of the questioning
However why did I stay in the religion for years? Personal revelation. I don't know if Muslims customarily get this but I had personal experience with god interacting with me. Born again christians don't believe you need a vicar to intercede for you. You can pray and of course God can reply directly. There are naturalistic explanations of course, but those experiences are what kept me in the religion until I started learning some religious history and that led to some REAL questioning
Freewill and predestination is actually not a paradox,and not difficult to understand, for those of us who are gamers.
If you imagine God as the programmer like the Matrix, and “reality” as open world 3D game. Then you can imagine the programmer to have put in all the rules and physics of the game, and coded all possibilities that character in the game can choose and actualise within the boundaries and rules of the game. and all the characters does, is choose between all possible paths to take. And when he makes a choice, he makes it become reality for him, and therefore is fully responsible for his choices and not the programmer.
The issue is when God knows everything that will happen because of his creation. Imagine if the programmer knew everything before running the simulation, that the act of creating the simulation was the act of writing the outcome because they knew it before it happened. In a game, the programmer does not know what route will be taken, but for an omniscient being creating the scenario and observing the outcome are one and the same.
This is why I'm an agnostic atheist
It's the best position
Yasir Qadhi never answer a question, which put Islam on the spot. He always gives these rumble-jumble answers, to his listeners and mislead The truth is, that Yasir Qadhi snows that the religion of Islam makes no sense, and has no logical explanation to life most important questions. And if anyone dear ask a question, he or she is view in a very negative way, even as an enemy of Allah, Mohammed, the Quran, and Islam. The answer to the question is that if evil and hell have been predestined ,by Allah,and so was all the non Muslims were determined to go to hell, it would make Allah and evil deity, and that Islam is a lot of b.s
This was so painful to watch the entire issue of predestination-free will can be solved by simply going by the order of revelation. The most commonly accepted order, leaves Surah 9 At-Tawbah as the second to last surah revealed and says as such on free will.
"Say, “Nothing will ever befall us except what Allah has destined for us. He is our Protector.” So in Allah let the believers put their trust." (9:51)
Making clear there is no free will. "nothing will ever befall us except what Allah has destined" ie Allah creates all the good and evil of the world by HIS will.
Wish these so called scholars were remotely as clear as the book they read.
Professor Robert Sapolsky in America explains about free will and he is an anthropologist
❤ this.
You could attach a short transparent tape or plastic bridge at your glasses and the mask across your nose. This way you don't have to push up the mask every few seconds.
One of the most interesting and simultaneously most annoying things about Muslim apologetics is its linguistic intransigence and reification of Arabic. What I mean by that is how people insist that the religion MUST be inextricably intertwined with the Arabic language, which is also linked to ideas about Arabic being a "special" language somehow, more beautiful and more wonderfully complex than others.
Also, what I mean by "intransigence" is how apologists and preachers insist upon using a plethora of Arabic words even when they are fluent in English and we have a perfectly good word in English you could translate to. But they insist upon using Arabic, which implicitly suggests that the Arabic word carries something special or spiritual that English could never fully communicate. I'm reacting especially to 7:20-7:30. Majbooreen is easily translateable to "forced" or "obliged", and for god's sake, why say "ameeq"? Just say deep. I'm very happy that I'm studying Arabic, both because I like it, and because it gives me a key to listening through the flowery bullshit. You can't fool me into thinking Islam is specialer than everything else because you whip out all these exotic-sounding words. All you're doing is creating misdirection and making discussions less open and transparent for those who don't speak Arabic. It's like people who insist on using French words to sound fancier and smarter, even when the person they're speaking to doesn't understand French. Speak to your listener.
Again, "aslan" at 7:42. "Aslan" just means "at the root" or "basically, at its base". Easily translatable. It seems like I'm harping on small things but I've listened to hours of these speakers and I actually think their insistence on using so many Arabic words (even non-specialized, basic words), creates a conversation in which the listener is meant to be awed by how marvelous and special Arabic is. Whereas not using readily available translations for words just impedes transparency and open criticism
8:30 qudra, khalq...
8:30 "our aql is going to understand the qudra" and the ilm...
8:55 the only time the sahaba had an "ikhtilaf" (I'm assuming based on my Arabic understanding this means a difference, or difference of opinion, why not just say this)
I'll stop noting all the instances because I'm sure it will be at least 50 by the end of the video. I also know that in this particular video, yes, two men who know that they both speak Arabic are speaking. But my point is, this same language problem occurs when I hear Muslim apologists talk to disbelievers/atheists, christians, and in general non-Arabic speakers
this is where it all begins to fall apart - incoherent theological positions that tried to outdo the Catholic teachings back in 4-5th century. coming home to roost. at least now the discussion is civilized.
Well a clear and sound answer to this question breaks many founding aspects of the Muslim 3a9ida..
Interesting post… I think your interjections are reasonable. I am a theist and we have the same issue within the Christian faith. The bible teaches both free will and Gods sovereignty. It is a difficult concept to talk about and understand. A book by Jerry Bridges; Trusting God, even when life hurts, helped me immensely in this area.
I liked the way you brought up the typical Islamic argument against the trinity which I get is hard to comprehend. Perhaps there are some things that are hard or even impossible to communicate, we ourselves are very complex and difficult to understand let alone the creator of the Universe… but it’s not arrogant to try and I believe in Christ we get to glimpse his glory. 🤷🏾♂️
Great video, i thoroughly enjoyed it. I always like your thoughtful and heartfelt approach to these topics
It's really sad that you have to cover your face,as I do, to comment on this subject. And these "religions " , cults and tribalism, are squirming in their death.
better safe than sorry,, even if u lives in the Western European countries, Canada or Aussie ur safety as an ex Mv5l1m is not really guaranteed due of so many wannabe jih4d1st living in these countries & u're not permitted to own 'iron' to defense ur self
Alladin I believe YQ was talking about the ancient jabariyyah sect of Islam in this video. I don't think he was talking about non muslim determinists or ex muslims. That's why his responses didn't seem relevant to us.
I'd love to hear Dr. Qadhi's thoughts about many of these question but applied to other primates, like chimps, which show a lot of similar behaviour to humans.
Awesome ?’s for me as a Christian I like to say that “ God gave us free will and we have no choice in the matter “ we can’t choose not to have this free will that’s God given. I hope this gives you clarity.
No it doesn't. You mean God wrote on the tablet of destiny our freewills? Question still remains does he know exactly what each person will do with that freewill? If yes, can we freely choose to act outside that knowledge? I guess your answer is no, and that's the problem.
Can't we then argue that the issue of a universe made of contingent things is something our limited minds can never be able to fully comprehend?
If you can borrow into the deficiency in our intelligent to explain predestination, why can't it be used to explain the contingency argument
I keep hearing you say "deserve," "fair," "just," etc. And I think to myself, you are circling the whole point. When I was young I had long discussions with an atheist uncle (he was always cordial and respectful, as you are). He used to tell me he worked as a civilian for the military, on weapons guidance systems, "so when we drop bombs they don't fall on schools." And I would always wonder, what makes you care where they fall? What is that? Where does your sense of justice, and of reason, come from? To me, that was always the root of my belief that there had to be some sort of "God" behind it all, under it all. Not necessarily the God you are talking about here, who is admittedly very small, irrational, unjust. But something bedrock, constitutive, the thing that keeps making you want to "think critically, and think for yourself." I have read that Islam elevates the "power" of God over the "reason" of God, and through many videos of this sort, I have understood better what that means, and what the implications are. It makes me realize ever more what an incredible gift "doubt" is. No true God would ever fear it.
Love from INDIA 🇮🇳
@SajanKumar-ru1sx
I'm from Kerala. And I know so many Ex-Muslims today.. and I'm guessing this would not have been the case 30 years ago, hearing about and knowing so many Ex-Muslims. Hopefully Ex-Muslims are rising in the rest of India too.
ya sure faith in the belief is key but human needs reasons to have faith
They really want to get him... I scared for his safety 😬 😔
He's hardly that significant. A nobody.
The Quran specifically says you aren’t supposed to ask hard ball questions of it
Which verse?
@@HanadGaney Quran 5 101
O believers! Do not ask about any matter which, if made clear to you, may disturb you. But if you inquire about what is being revealed in the Quran, it will be made clear to you. Allah has forgiven what was done ˹in the past˺.1 And Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Forbearing.
@@timchapman5553 Knowing Muslims, some of them will mental gymnastics the Hell out of it and say this verse is talking about asking the Prophet questions directly, and that's it's totally OK to ask Muslims scholars questions about Islam and Quran
So we affirm that morality is subjective. But we can live our lives as if morality is objective.
@shassarahaman5247
I don't live as if my morality is objective. I live as if my morality is established by a bunch of influences and forces, many of which I have not devoted too much time to investigating. I'm always open to it being changed with sound reasoning that convinces me. You, like Yasir Qadhi, are drawing up a straw man.
I truly hate it when they mix Arabic words when they are speaking English 😤
either speak English so non Arabic speakers so they will fully understand you or speak only Arabic for the people that speaks Arabic so they will fully understand you.
or simply recognize that more than one language exists and people will use whatever is more useful in the context. if you don't understand there are plenty of translation apps out there, and it's also not incredibly difficult to understand from context clues.
@@thevoteman I didn’t say anything about translation ,and I am all for speaking one language and translate it so people will understand the subject that you are talking about .
do you think that the English speakers that doesn’t know Arabic understand Arabic words in the middle of the English sentence?
By the way I am middle Eastern and I speak Arabic and English
I speak fully English with English people and I speak Arabic with Arabic people .
I don’t like mixing up the language for people that might not understand it I think it’s dumb.
@@venus9930that's completely my bad i didn't realize what you were saying. i'm sorry
@@thevoteman apology accepted. God bless you. ❤️💐💐💐
So is this other guy a non-believer now?
Why does Allah call himself allamul ghuyub: knower of the unseen or unknown. Unseen is from human perspective. There's nothing unseen or unknown to Allah.
Does your cat hapu happen to work at a convenience store in Simpson ville