Who Makes the Best Rifle Sling?
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2021
- All rifle slings are basically the same thing and therefore they're all tied for best. But some slings are more best than others.
Slings in this video:
Ferro Concepts Slingster
Blue Force Gear Vickers Sling
T-Rex Arms Sling
Magpul RLS
Magpul MS1
WellsMadeCompany Aloha Sling
Ed Sherman Designs Sling - Спорт
“A sling’s like a high school diploma: I don’t care where it’s from, I just want you to have one and I’m pretty sure most of you don’t.” -James Reeves
I have a GED. guess that's akin to a shitty milsurp sling.
@@joshuagibson2520 Nah that's a custom sling
@@systaltic863 you’re right. It’s fucking custom.
@@systaltic863 it's a shitty custom
I got one but forgot where I put the useless piece of paper
"They're all basically the same thing"
*me with 50 feet of paracord and a board with a nail in it
You should probably be on a watchlist or something.
@@Hoplopfheil oh we are there
@@Hoplopfheilmessing with a Trex arms and a vickers padded. Considering a flatline fiber co. Would you say the flatline is in between the Trex and Vickers as far as padding and bulkiness/is there noticeably more padding on the flatline vs the minimalist Trex padding?
"Gun."
"Yes."
I mean, that's it, pack it up, folks.
The strongest opinions on the smallest of details. That's what I come here for and I love it.
We'll said man
Facts
Same here, no bs just thorough and honest
I learned to sew and it has honestly changed the way I look at most gear. If i don't like it, I modify it to my liking or desired function. I've turned gear i thought was crap into something usable again. Slings are high on that list.
Where do you recommend to start sewing?
@@burtbiggum499 Start by watching some UA-cam videos on how to sew by hand. Then if you don't want to spend a lot of money, I found a $300 Singer sewing machine with nothing wrong with it at the Goodwill store for $12. I bought a cheap quick adjust sling off of Amazon that has VERY good webbing (the "brand" was "DMAIP"), very soft but strong material, but it has terrible QD's on it, so I had to use a razor blade to cut the stitching out so I could replace the QD on one end of it with some decent BCM one's, and then used my sewing machine to put the same stitch pattern back into it. Works great and I saved a lot of money. The sling I got is made with really good material, but the QD's were unusable. Still worth the buy, if you're able to replace and restitch the QD's.
My first project was a dopp kit(travel case) from Klum House. I used a very entry level sewing machine and followed the pattern instructions. I made mistakes and learned so much from just an entry level project. Small achievable goals is the key to sewing. I got discouraged with a larger project and had to step back and remember my skill level. Go to a local store and ask simple questions too, crusty old ladies love a man who wants to sew.
same.. that's Why I bought a $30 "airsoft" plate carrier.. it's made with 600 dinier nylon.. So I just beefed up the seems and now it's awesome. It has all the same "features" of the good velcro attach carriers.. I love it. sewing, and having a good machine changes everything.
@@burtbiggum499 There is a great hand crank sewing machine on ebay.. just search "chinese cobbler sewing machine"---- that thing works great for sewing thick and heavy stuff, and leather... Otherwise, almost any sewing machine that works will do fine for thin stuff.
Obviously it's Wellsmade, because their slings come in sweet patterns like Adidas stripe, cherry blossom, and that generic 90s blue wavy pattern.
"Cool Jazz" is the official name given by the designer of the pattern.
@@InvidiousIgnoramus I thought it was solo jazz, have I been saying it wrong this whole time
If you don't have an Ahegaocam sling from Moka's Raifus are you even living your best life ?
@@acemace3618 Solo is the cupmaking company, it's not incorrect just another name.
@@acemace3618 Solo is the cupmaking company, it's not incorrect just another name.
Still don’t understand how you are so thorough in such a short amount of time, EVERY time.
I swear so many other people give half the info in videos twice as long. Hop is a magician.
He talks a hundred miles an hour that is why yet somehow manages to enunciate properly every word so you can still understand him. He could make a fortune as one of those ad voice over guys that have to talk really fast but unlike Hop you barely understand a word they say.
@@deanfirnatine7814 yes I can picture the sarcastic TV ad version of Hop.
“Limited time only not available in all locations terms subject to change without notice if you buy this level of product you probably still suck your thumb misuse of this product is a violation of federal law you’ll probably blow yourself up with it long before the feds get to you …”
Hes a godsend to people with ADHD haha
Watched for sling overviews.
Enjoyed for concise, informed comparisons.
Liked for: "3-point slings are a cosmic accident"
Oh thank God it's been a couple of hours since I last heard your voice. 😘
Hi Mabsy
@@Hoplopfheil hey babe. 😍
Stop harassing him
Anderson lower represent for the poors. Much appreciated!
haha glad im not the only one who noticed!
The poverty pony doesn't disappoint.
Oh, this is an easy one! It's whoever manufactured the sling on my laptop bag. I could go mountain climbing with that monster!
Best way to get a cheap quality sling is to buy a used laptop bag. I've probably got ten laptop bags in my closet I bought just for the straps. Thankfully, they're useful little buggers. Got a sub2000 packed away in one.
So I'm not the only one!
So glad to hear I'm not crazy and others have figured this out too. It's an inexpensive way to get a high quality nylon strap and the buckles are usually pretty good too. Sometimes you can even luck out and find metal swivels and hooks.
My first sling on a non-issued rifle was literally from my laptop bag lol, worked just fine
I am so glad you made this, before this video I kept strangling myself with an extension cord that I used as a sling. Thank you Hop.
Thank God the guy at the end showed up. I had no idea what was going on. What are these noise machines? Why carry them around with straps? Now I know what all those idiots have been arguing about.
Gun.
Yes.
Have a nice day.
Used just about everything in 30+ years of Military Service across two Branches (91-05 Marine Corps and 05 - Pres Air Force) vast majority of the time as an MP/Security Forces. I settled into the BFG Vickers Slings and haven't found anything better🤷♂️
Warrior Poet Society’s new bungee sling looks very nice.
I was hoping he was going to review the WPS sling.
Looks like it funds a fascist. No thanks.
SOE Special Operations Equipment. Best sling, Made in USA, Lifetime guarantee. I bought mine used and love it. Not china made shit!
@@whoees3953 wtf lol
Man, as a 'old head' as the kids said in the described me in the Army. You are one low drag, high speed individual. Love it! I recommend your channel to my relations.
11B 1985-2009 11Z retired 2nd Bn, 503rd Regt. The Rock!
How's your knees old man
@@Token_Black_Guy not knees, the hips.. my knees are better than 80% of the troopers my generation. Sucks to be old.
Thanks Hop. I shared this video with several new shooters taking their first carbine course tomorrow. I am continually amazed how something as important as a proper sling, is just an afterthought for so many. In checking some of their gear this week, not everyone got the message. Tomorrow should be interesting. Thanks again.
When in doubt get a magpul ms1. figure out what you don't like and shop based on it.
I'm still on the ms3 train.
A jerry rigged MS1 was a better AUG sling than the actual AUG sling
@@calholli I actually like the MS3.
@@toynazi Yeah.. I have like 8 of them on different rifles. lol.. well, the fake ebay clones for $14
@@calholli Woah. I didn't know they had China clones.
Love this channel. Straight to the point, no dumb fluff, just a personal report on your fact finding.
I looked at the custom Blue Force Gear sling and priced it in excess of 100 dollars. After I realized that it was overkill for my amateur needs, I looked at the Mag-Pull MS1 sling and used one of the end points from BFG. I have tighten it very securely for precision shooting and it has never slipped. BTW the material that is used on the Mag-Pul sling is a proprietorial material made in Europe for Mag-Pul. It feels and moves great and is able to support a heavy rifle. I don’t think that there is a bad sling out there, but you can certainly over pay.
If I get the ms1 I don’t get how it connects to my rifle? Do you have to buy the connectors that go on sling and then where it goes into rifle?
@@Kgoutdoor Depends on what your rifle has attachment point wise. Most stocks have a QD (Quick detatch) socket, basically a hole that a QD sling connector fits into. You can buy the QD sling swivel on their own and add them to a sling, or you can buy slings with the QD sling swivels already attached. The Magpul MS1 sling and Blue force gear vickers have options that already have the QD sling swivels attached. You just have to make sure your rifle already has two QD slots, one on the stock and one on the handguard. If you don't have one on the handguard, you need to buy a QD sling adapter that fits into any MLOK rail. Hope that helps!
@@KgoutdoorMy magpul is the MS3 (the MS1 that comes with the lockable "squeeze" clips attached). To use it, I installed the "Paraclip Sling Mount" (on the side of my handguards-- about $20), and the "QD paraclip adapter" (on my stock-- $17). But you can always just clip it to your traditional AR swivels, if you want, until you decide how you want to use it.
The result is, my sling is quickly & easily adjusted for firing; it's 100% removable in a hurry (a feature I really love at the range or anytime I'm doing AR maintenance); and it's easily convertible to single point, as Hop said, although I have yet to find a real need for that-- But options are always nice.
Think I bought mine for about $50. And combined with the quality, adaptability, and ease of use makes it an excellent buy, imo-- No I don't work for Magpul lol.
I do recommend a channel called "Regular Guy Training" where he did a review on this exact sling after years of using it as a soldier, frequently under combat conditions. What really sold me is he still uses this sling to date.
Good luck-- just don't settle for something you don't want
I’m lookin forward to trying out my Warrior Poet Society sling.
Yeah it seems like an actual unique design too not just a copy of a copy like most others. Maybe quick adjust is the way to go but I’m curious to see how it works. If the qd buckle is secure enough that could be really cool.
Same, got one on the way.
@@obviousgreyman my HHV helmet has a magnetic connect clip and I love it on there. I’m sure it will work just as great on a sling, but we shall see
@@snek9353 hopefully John will come out with different colors
@@Whiskey1553 good to hear.
Your smart ass sarcasm is one of my favorite things about your channel! 🍻
VTAC gang representing
This is for sure my favorite channel right now because you review gear based on it's effectivness not it's Gucci points
“3 point slings are a cosmic accident” you kill me man haha. Keep up the amazing content. I found you because of the in depth night vision content and stayed!
i like the warrior poet sling, i think the bungee is a really good idea, works well
I hope so for the price tag.
You have it already?
@@snek9353 i made one friend, it’s a regular sling with a bungee attached. I guess i should have said the concept of a bungee sling? Sort of treated it like “sidecar holster” there, when that’s trex’ name for it
I think this is one of the most underrated gun channels. Good info and to the point without bashing.
Love your gear and optics review. Keep up the great work
Wasn't expecting wellsmade on here, I have 3 of em and love them all the do not move at all, and are fairly comfy
Thank you for blessing us with this content
Awesome video brother. Agree 100%, tried many of the same ones and they all pretty much do the same thing.
Been using the BFG Vickers for nearly 4 years and have no real complaints about it. I have a Pelican case full of 3 point, 2 point, and 1 point slings that are now left to the ravages of time.
Thanks for the wellsmade tip. Alohaflage is awesome
Big fan of the WellsMade slings. I own 3 and never had any issues. Nice and simple.
I've been using an ESD sling for about 7 months, its absolutely incredible. On top of that, I had fitment issues with mine and Edgar replied on Instagram the same day and got me completely squared away. Customer for life now!
Love WellsmadeCo. Met them at a gun show and they are a cool as hell.
One little detail that I didn't think would be a pet peeve for me but turned out to be - is the direction of the quick adjust. It just feels more natural to me to have out be expand and in be shrink. I'm trying to standardize a little late to the game since I don't want half my rifles working one way and half the other
What sling do you have? I have an STI sling, and mine did that when I first got it. Then I figured out I had it set up wrong. Now it pushes away to loosex, and pulls in to tighten.
@@brianfischer5609 I have a bunch in both directions. Some time over the last year I had seen advice which makes sense to get the kind that tightens outwards so you can use it as a hasty sling for stabilizing aim.
Your videos are so nice. Thank you for that quality.
Thank you I was just thinking about that this morning!
Definitely gonna cop the jazz lines sling for my saiga 223.
This channel is so good. Who would have thought Edward Walter Furlong was so knowledgeable on firearms.
A workaround for the slingster's metal cam making sound that I discovered was to slide an elastic HK hook cover over it, and cut out a hole for the adjustment tab to go through.
Great video! Thank you all the great information!!
Great rundown Hop!
True. Love you Hop. Sling is required for gun. Period. Single point is a retention device only. Not for carry, because it just allows the gun to abuse your jewels when you’re on the move, forcing you to actually carry gun with hands- no good. 3 point is stable, but also in the way, all the time, and was conceived in a time when attachment options (to gun) were poor. 2 point, necessary. Quick adjust, necessary. There is no reason to not go this route today. Paying more than $100, not necessary. Bungee, not necessary.
Best gun related channel im aware of in 2021, watching fron Finland.
Helikon Tex 2 point sling is my personal favorite. You could check it out, it should be availible in the US for peanuts. It has a polimer regulation device that holds very well and is comfortable to use. It also has small ribbons for attaching the sling to the rifle using for exemple mlok slots. Nice addition.
I braided some paracord to my magpul plastic adjustment for a makeshift pull tab. WORKS AMAZING. you can make it whatever length you want making it easy to find for quick adjustments!
MS4 is great. Good to have the option of single point when nut damage risk is minimal. Haven’t gone hard enough to see the adjuster slip. Also qd endplates are a better attachment point IMO than the far side of the buttstock. Takes just one more quick movement to do shoulder switches and it never interferes with my cheek weld
I like the Centrifuge Training sling due to the vehicle storage mode, with the Frank Proctor sling a close 2nd due to being so light & simple.
Hey Hop, just curious, would you ever do an AR build breakdown video for your favorite rifle/s? Love the videos, no doo-doo just great reviews! Keep it up!
thanks for the heads up i got the brushstroke sling from wellsmade
Those wellsmade slings look to be just about what I'm looking for for my rifle. no padding, no BS features, just a slim webbing with a quick adjust. I do find the Magpul QS4 works well on my AR-9 pistol, but yeah that quick adjust likes to slip around pretty easily.
I'd recommend a proctor sling if you're looking for something streamlined and lightweight. My experience with the adjustment buckles on a lot of slings is they tend to flop around and get in the way.
The Proctor slings are my favorite and they don’t typically need attachment hardware. Very, very, light.
This was the video I needed, thank you.
In irq I found some AK slings that were 3pt slings and could unbuckle and turn into a two point sling, it was actually pretty usefull
When I first got into shooting ARs back in 2009 I bought a 3 point sling. You are correct about them being a “cosmic accident”. 🤣 Quality webbing though. It has since been chopped apart and turned into a regular old non adjustable carry sling for hunting rifles.
Awesome as usual. Thanks man!
Great info and thank you.
Short, concise and conclusive. Love it. Would enjoy your perspective on the Warrior Poet sling.
Own the slingster, its a solid sling my only issue with it is the massive adjuster on it. It adds bulk if stowing the sling to your gun, its also metal which due to its weight tends to swing where it wants and hit stuff on the gun. It has great adjustability and the pad is perfect. Im actually moving to a trex arms sling because of the metal slider. If your not stowing your sling to your gun then you need not worry.
You have no idea how happy I was to hear you talk about how big and bulky the BFG sling pad is. As soon as I got one I had no idea why no one else was talking about how chonky it is. Coming from a cheap nylon web sling that was fairly thin it felt like I had a throw pillow around my neck. At this point I've gotten used to it. I also have two BFG Ak slings that have like triple thick webbing. What is with BFG? Put your product line on a diet. I dunno, maybe their weight rated for rappelling from an apache to slay a Balrog or some shit.
Sounds like you got suckered
Great as always 👊
loving your content hop. You are very well spoken brother. I'd like to hear your thoughts on the unitys/1.93 mounts even if it's a 5 minute clip, to give something to people on a certain image board whenever they ask about it
I went the Ferro Slingster on the advice of an LE friend. Because I use a (right-handed shooter) over-and-under support arm, "twist," to lock in the strap Using this hold I was hitting, and occasionally activating, the slide mechanism. I then went with a GBRS sling. It has basically the same function but the adjustment is done via a pliable strap that does not cause the same problems. Magpul strap is very strong and sewn well, as noted here however the adjustment slide (plastic) piece does not stay in position. Good for belaying though...
I do like the magpul and vickers slings but i havent tried any of the newer ones like trex. I do have a viking tactics which i dont really like for a few reasons. While the buckle adjust system works fairly well i do not like a loose tag end that is sooooo long i could hang myself with it. The other part about the viking i dont like is that the metal buckles are so heavy they TWIST the sling around alot AND they can mark up your rifle. I like the magoul and vickers because they are easy to use and leave NO TAG end to strangle yourself with and the sliders are light. Warrior Poet has a sling available that i would like to try... money is ALWAYS a issue for me though so i am limited. ALWAYS LOVE your content HOP keep it ROLLIN SIR! LETS ROLL!!!!
ATS Tactical makes some surprisingly good slings with a unique adjustment mechanism that's easy to expand and equally easy to shrink.
I have a proctor sling and don't regret it at all. Doesn't have a lot of padding but it's great and easy to use.
Thanks for a great video!
I'm a big fan of the vtac padded sling, I've found them to be better at locking than the ferro slingster and I prefer how you pull on the webbing to adjust it than pull on the cam itself like with the slingster. Do you have any experience with vtac slings?
The adjustable Latigo from Brownells is on almost every rifle I own, and even a shotgun, and I've been quite pleased with them. Not tacticool, but servicable and simple...and yes, they're leather.
Yeah great video, I need a sling for my new AK, zpap M70XT! Quick adjust is a must. I'll be going with your top pick here I think 🤔
A rifle without a sling is like a pistol without a holster.
a rifle without a mag is like a pistol without a mag.
I know that this is a quick video about using a sling to carry your rifle. However, the right sling can be a great shooting aid. A hasty sling stabilizes offhand shooting significantly. Sitting or kneeling, a sling can turn your position from OK to rock solid.
I'm ashamed to admit it buy I haven't yet picked a sling for any of my guns year. I'm a thin build small guy and the couple I did try were mainly suited for an mp5. This helped more than most other videos
Edgar Sherman hands down makes the best sling. Ferro’s metal buckle constantly scratches your rifle. When you attempt to adjust the length, it never stop where I want. It has to slide to engage the cam, so it ends up losing tension every time I tighten it. Sold it it just a few months after buying it.
Excellent video.
Currently, my favorite sling setup is the ESD sling with a Slingster pad.
TRex arms and the Edgar Sherman design slings rule.
I like the gen 1 ms3 sling. I have more weapons than slings so I like having 2 point for longer guns like an ar and 1 point for smaller guns. The loop adjustment doesn't loosen like the plastic adjuster
Hop looks like the most frustrated person ever lol
I got a Wellsmade, and a Ferro. The Wellsmade is a Ferro but cooler. That's really it. Hardware is literally just as good and so is the webbing. Stitching is rock solid and clean.
Honestly one of my favorite people In the industry
Perhaps not as well known, I am very happy with my Urban ERT sling, worth a look.
I just bought an Ed Sherman sling because I got a meme gun I think it's perfect for: the M&P FPC. It's the lightest and least bulky rifle sling I've ever found with proper modern features like quick adjustment, plus it has the built in elastic keeper so I can fold the gun up and stow the sling on itself, then it'll just pop out and be ready when the gun deploys. I figure this is a backpack rifle and not something I'm likely to hang around my neck and hike with for hours, so minimalist is the order of the day.
My opinion isn’t worth much, but I have seven of the top names and the Sly Tactical and Edgar Sherman are my favorites. Good video; thanks.
A sling is a must. I have rigged a piece of webbing, better than nothing. I have to decide on the only modern sling I will own, good video.
I personally just run a regular blue force 2 point sling on my AR and that's enough for me.
It’s refreshing to see someone else using Anderson non-ironically. Considering 90% of the internet seems to love to hate those lowers😂
I use a repro garand sling as a shooting accessory, winding around my arm for support on what I shoot. That said, I don't any 22 calibres with little sling holes either, so nothing presenting will work for me.
The best sling is the one that works for the one behind the gun, the gun, and the gear they're using. My preferences have changed over the years. From only using GI slings rigged in a multitude of fasions, to modernised GI style 3 position slings, and now after entering the modern era of gear have started using slings that give me the option of running 1 point or 2. Over the years I've changed( gotten older and more worn out), my gear has changed( from Alice belt and suspenders to molle plate carrier), my gun stayed the same but i needed a different sling to fit throughout the changes. The only consistency has been I prefer 1¼" nylon slings over thinner ones.
I'm thoroughly enjoying all my $13 ms3 style ebay slings..
Helpful info
I have two unpaded vcas slings and I'm very happy with them.
The new WPS sling is worth looking at. I thought it wasn't going to be anything special until I watched a bit more of the demonstration. It honestly don't like the idea of having stretch in a sling, but it is still worth a look.
helpful info, thanks
Of all the ones I own, I like the ones I made myself from 3/4 inch webbing and little buckles I grabbed off old backpacks and old Walmart buggy seatbelts lol. Costed zero dollars zero cents. Not metal buckles that ding up the finish. Best part also is they gather up into a tiny bag with the MPX and others alot easier than let's say my Magpul one on the Rattler that is alot bulkier. I had to create my own quick adjust tho. And I like it better so far than others I've tried. Plus slings are expensive considering what they cost to make. Not bad if you own one or two rifles. But they add up fast when you have let's say 10 or so
Warrior poet’s new sling looks pretty interesting
Yeah I’m intrigued by that addition to the sling market. Haven’t checked the price yet..
Good stuff, thank you. Cascadia patch ??? Cool. That's where I live.
I have a laptop bag sling and its amazing and very well made, it slides open quickly if needed but takes a little more dexterity to close it quickly, i might have to add a pad later, i have a single poiny attach sling with stretch materiak i love, wish it was two point