"and I know that it's really hard to find the actual Safariland holster that you're looking for because their website is a thing of Grecian tragedy, but that being said, if you just bought a Glock like a normal person..." Our man Hop is a got dang poet.
I've been using a 'Nam era alice belt/suspender set up over my cold weather hunting layers/clothes for years. It's not the most high speed tacticool gear, but it's for hunting in the Maine woods, it doesn't need to carry plates and a hundred AR mags. But it's functional, comfortable and fits well over cold weather gear&layers👍
Hey Hop, did you know you can put adhesive Velcro strips on the back of plastic attachments to get back some of the Velcro engagement? I didn't watch the video nor read the comments but I'm sure this is an original thought that you haven't figured out or had anyone already tell you.. You're welcome!
I’m a carpenter so a padded war belt is intuitive for me. Used to reaching for my hammer and other tools at my waste. And the belt is always worn overtly, over my work clothes year round.
I feel ya, am so used to wearing a tool belt, that a scaled down padded belt to hold my holster and mag's)med etc. Seems like the way to go for me. Plus don't have to worry about if I'm wearing winter or summer clothing
Garage door installer here, I personally use an eagle industries gun belt as a host for my tool pouches and impact holster. I hate belt stacking and the Velcro solves that.
As a police officer I developed severe lower back problems due to the gunbelt and all the Bat toys we had to wear on it. I was only 27 at the time. At 58, getting out of bed can be tough. Be careful what you wear and just make sure there is a reason for the gear you choose. If you can get away from the battle belt concept altogether it may be better for you in the long run.
While not an "ideal" solution, when I was a LEO (wearing a full LEO belt, obviously, similar to a modern battle belt), during cold weather I had a nice tactical jacket from Germany which had the holster access side-zip function. A zipper stemming from the bottom of the side of the jacket, which allowed for easy holster access. I then wore my plate carrier overtop the jacket with additional handgun magazines. So even during "coldish" weather I was able to access my handgun and had expedient magazines. This was in the desert though so I didn't need to address rain as an issue.
If you're in a situation where you need your gun and mags, you'll just live with a few minutes of cold rain getting through and warm up later. Obviously
HSGI makes a gel-padded Velcro inner belt that turns conventional battle belts into a low-profile "war belt". Can be worn over clothing. It's handy to have to open up different ways of wearing a battle belt, basically when you need to wear oversized warm gear.
I also used and did like the HSGI padded belt liner, but recently switched over to Qore Icevents pads, and have found them to be lighter and more comfortable. It is more of a permanent warbelt setup (not really just onewrap but is not as easy to apply as the HSGI pad), but that’s my preference 95% of the time anyway. I usually don’t wear belts on a daily basis (Phlster Enigma convert), so it makes sense as something to throw on over my clothes.
I have something similar and it does help alot, also using a shell jacket that can sinch at the waist helped with making sure my jacket didn't catch on my holster or get in the way of magazine re indexing.
Good points all around. I believe the battle belt concept has merits, but is overused in general because it's what all the competition/influencer shooters are using. They only need one maybe two spare rifle mags, and their handgun equipment. Fundamentally your belt is a good spot to attach items. Until you overload it with too much weight and your pants start to sag like a those 2000's era emo kids did. Then you need to help support the weight with suspenders or tighten your belt and give yourself a hernia. From my own experience I usually default to a "Jungle Belt" style that's attached to a chest rig or goes over a plate carrier with suspenders. My main experience comes from physical competition shooting like the desert brutality events and other similar matches. Where you need sustainment AND a handgun. So I usually put some load on my belt with water, medical, rifle ammo, handgun stuff, etc. I think the jungle belt idea is underrated but I also see why. People view it as a replacement or stand in for a chest rig/kitted out plate carrier. When I believe it's an additional source of sustainment, for those. It's especially good when you need to carry a handgun with your full kit, because you need a belt anyways why not use it for other gear. Then you can also separate your handgun belt from your armor system/chest rig if you are at a more relaxed posture.
Being real, the only reason "jungle belts" are out is because of Hollywood and videogames. Plenty of folks are on UA-cam and competition circle are fully kitted up, and no where on their system is a rain jacket, sleeping system, etool, gas mask, nods, hide, binoculars, or sustainment. There's lots of equipment that a specific job might require, and Hollywood just doesn't make that fashionable.
I have the Mech belt too and I love it. I came to the same conclusion that molle on belts is just too much of an annoying compromise and I've velcroed everything. Thanks for the content man
War belt style (as you said in the video) is great if you’re constantly getting in and out of trucks, or want to walk around your FOB, camp, etc. From an infantryman’s perspective, this is why I switched from a Battle belt to a war belt while on deployment l. Just my experience with that.
I like taking all that fat that you would have on your kit and moving it to the belt. Easier on the shoulders and very convenient when working with vehicles.
Additionally the first/second/third line gear is layed out for firstline- bare essentials to live another day. Secondline- the main harness that executes the fight. Thirdline= heavy sustainment for longterm living. I have a war belt style for similar purposes aka the EDC of warfighting and never being without a "force protection" loadout.
Yup, the war belt is very applicable in the real world. The average infantry GWOT loadout doesn’t fit well on a plate carrier and creates issues when firing from prone, leaving your cheeks sticking up in the air and greatly reducing accuracy. Moving items to a belt spreads it out more evenly, and takes some weight off your shoulders. I can understand the average larper probably doesn’t benefit from it as much though.
I'll also add a specific point on why you would get a battle belt: there are training facilities (Sig Academy among others) that won't let you run IWB holsters for many of the early classes because they view concealed carry as an advanced skill. Training is pretty much the only reason I have a battle belt, but it definitely simplifies things on the range.
I use a battle belt exclusively when walking my two dogs. It keeps their leashes, a climber's chalk bag full of treats, bear spray in a holster, and a Safariland ALS. I'm way out in the woods so it may be smarter to have a rifle for bears and mountain lions.
I personally prefer a jungle type webbing system over a battle belt. The ease of putting it on and taking it off while also having the extra support from the harness was nice. I also like to run slick carriers. I even used to run a smersh and partizan harness for a while.
I’ve always seen a battle belt as useful for backpacking in the mountains, especially if you’re using it for other things, along with the magazines and medical supplies, I carry a climbing axe, bear spray, jet lighter, and a pair of drink coozies in case I get thirsty
I've wanted to see a "tool belt" that was built more like a 2 piece belt. I know it likely could not use velcro the same way as it just wouldn't last very long being worn 5days/week.
I had success mixing the two by violating the current tactical instagram trends. Basic-ass flap magazine pouches often (but not always) ride lower than open tops do, as they cover up the entire magazine. So I put flap pouches on my belt, so they barely protrude above the belt line, and I put singles on my kit, so they barely protrude below the cummerbund. Also as far as you mentioning civilian vs military context with the 1-2-3 line setup, that's an interesting topic. In the field I'm never going to have a belt with no vest. But I'm very often vest with no belt. Especially if my mission will be mostly truck based with little, if any at all, dismount work, in which case I'll store my belt under my seat and sit a bit more comfortably. So I had to use my belt to augment my vest. The majority of my combat load, plus IFAK, plus admin shit, is on my vest. On my belt are just pistol mags, 2 rifle mags, dump pouch (I can use cargo pockets if I don't have my belt, if I really need to), and a 3rd TQ because why not. I also have my pistol mounted to my inner belt on a Safariland QLS. This lets me carry my pistol on base without having to wear my whole-ass battle belt just to get chow. It also lets me keep my pistol on me, mounted or dismounted, without my belt on. The QLS, besides giving some standoff for the belt and a jacket, also let me take it off while I'm in a place I don't need a pistol on my hip (ie. in my sleeping tent)
I've used a two piece belt for a while in competition, but it led to ridiculous lower back pain. I swapped using the velcro inner belt for a very thin inner belt pad, and it was an absolute game changer.
I'm really digging the dump pouch from Flat Line Fiber Co. as it mimics the DM system by having the dump pouch located underneath mag pouches so it frees up the real estate on the battle belt. They have varying sizes so hopefully one will have the large opening you are looking for.
I like your civilian variation of the "line" concept, but I think the battle belt is actually second line of urgency or need. Running a velcro inner belt and lining up nice and straight with an outer belt that has your pouches and stuff is a lot slower than throwing on a chest rig or plate carrier that has the magazines and medical you'd use with the ultimately more useful tool, your rifle. The faster donning gear that supports the more useful tool comes first to me. Adding a battle belt is something that comes to mind at times when you have time to be prepared and plan and think to add a full sized sidearm, dump pouch, etc. But I guess in a sustained state of high, overt danger and readiness, the battle belt represents your dangerous-time EDC.
If I were working on the farm in a situation where I thought there was an escalated possibility of violence, I'd choose to wear a battle belt all day rather than a plate carrier or chest rig. To me, those are better to stash in the car or house, but the belt can be worn during normal activities.
I agree with your concept of why you might want a belt. For me, it's always been the same idea. I'll throw on a belt if I'm in a scenario where I'm doing shit that's not necessarily shooting, but I may end up needing to shoot. I've always thought that two layer belts were kind of a meme as well, I live in New England where for a pretty solid chunk of the year I'm wearing some sort of layers. Being able to throw my belt on over that just makes life a ton easier as opposed to fucking around by trying to tuck in a coat, or fit the coat over my jacket. In my head, I've always liked the idea of wearing a war belt with a plate carrier to more evenly spread my load. However, I usually end up just outright ditching the belt when I'm wearing a plate carrier. It's funny how much time I've put in to trying to buy different belts and set them up as opposed to the amount of time I've actually worn one.
Hope you do a review of your Dara holster. I have level 2s one for a PPQ/tlr and a G19/aplc that have held up so far and are one of the few level 2 options out there for some guns and light combos. I went in blind with never even hearing of the brand before.
LBE/ Battle Jacket Systems with good waist and shoulder padding are optimal, the SADF Pattern/ Type 83 LBE is nearly optimal (and is easy to use with a Slick Vest, yes)- nearly, just needs some Pouch reconfiguration for better use, being stitched is the most bomb-proof (yet easy enough to repair at low cost) and reduces weight compared to MOLLE/ PALS stuff and ALICE Clip systems. Modularity and all the options therein are nice, but with an optimized and standardized layout for a simple system it reduces a lot of headache and saves money while being able to easily adapt to such a system. Having used Duty and Battle Belts day in and day out for long hours over years, I can say Belt specific systems are awful on the body for that kind of use. They're great for the range, relatively short shooting competitions, and rapid short-lived operations/ raids where you're in an out, but not for extended duty or combat use, you need the support of your back/ shoulders/ chassis of the body in tandem with your hips to stay comfortable and distribute the weight more adequately for better use and performance.
First time I saw a war belt or battle belt or whatever was at a competition about 8 - 9 years ago now. HSGI and the guy loved the fact he could take it off/on between stages and have everything right there, didn't move on him, and was comfortable. So I bought one and 7ish years later really haven't changed it. I've got two kangaroo tacos weak side, douche pouch, canteen/water bottle pouch, HSGI blowout pouch, and then a Bianchi drop leg kit for the M12/84/92 military holster. I'm sure not high speed enough for guys these days, but it works.
The PDP SD Pro is such a sweet pistol but finding a holster for it has been a huge PITA, especially with a closed emitter optics that I'm not sure an active retention strap could get over, eventually went with a T. Rex Arms.
Belts suck. Anything that holds that much weight needs shoulder straps or should be mounted on a plate carrier. I wore a LEO duty belt for 28 years in total. Uncomfortable, ackward for exiting vehicles quickly, and not conducive to moving as a team. My old army Viet Nam era LBE (issued to me in 1982) was even better. IMHO
Before you cast battle belts to the wind, I'd love to see your take on the Haley belt. Actual correct Molle spacing is making it the most tempting for me currently, mostly as a range accessory when I'm not in the mood for full kit.
The legit Molle spacing is cool and all, but when one wrap works perfectly well on a lower profile, lighter belt then I just don’t really see the need for it anymore.
Ukrainian here with an experience of ducking in trenches from explosions in all imaginable poses. I went with the belt that attaches to velcro part initially. Terrible decision for my case. I used it for magazine pouches to unload plate carrier, my spine and shoulders, and increase overall mobility, but instead I only limited it. If you have lots of magazine pouches on such belt they poke you painfully if you try doing anything except for standing still. But I can see why it is great for recreational shooting though. Eventually I’ve switched to “jungle” belt with a suspension, which turned out to be an excellent choice. SNot only it does not limit your movements at all so you can roll around in mud with it all day, but you can also insert kevlar pack into it.
Great video. This is one of the first “battle belt” videos I’ve watched, and I have mine set up exactly in the same position as your. Diff stuff obviously, but in the same spots. It just kind of happened that way just from trying diff things in diff places. Thanks Hop.
Battle belts are more or less range toys for most. They are mission specific, just like plate carriers. For the average joe just trying to be prepared for whatever, the warbelt or an LBV is a better choice, so in reality the 2 week instagram jungle kit makes more sense for general purpose things. In my time in the Corps I always stuck with the warbelt. You put it on, you take it off, it's grab and go, very simple and is multi season.
I was a machine gunner in the Marines, and I absolutely love gun-belts/battle-belts. I would often carry an M4 and an M240B, and I hated the double mag pouches on my PC because it made it difficult to get low behind the gun. I went to a gun belt and ran single mag pouches on my PC, and tried to keep everything as slick as possible while maintaining maximum ammunition. You really try to lower the risks of snagging gear when you're carrying a big ass machine gun. Nutnfancy always kind of annoyed me, but his POU and weight savings made a lot more sense when I started carrying 120lbs of shit through the swamp. Great video, thanks.
Just going to throw an Armchair Commando comment up as my experience is LEO and 3 gun. You complain about belt setup issues yet duplicate the problem. When you run a duty belt (as I'd refer to this as) you need to look at placement (as stated in other comments). Try moving your pistol mags to infront of your handgun in the 1230 ish position. that gets rid of that awkward weak side mag draw involving you to lean off to get at your mag. The cross reach is faster and puts less restriction on your arm movements for reload. Also, if your torso is short, then you can't be like the cool kids and run a stanag mag there. Move it to your chest rig/plate carrier. The idea being, if you need a carbine, you probably need the armor. For pouches, you can't run tactical pouches on a belt not designed for tactical pouches. Rather, try duty related pouches. Lastly, which is just an opinion for speed and comfort, slide your pistol forward to like the 230 position. Having it past 3 o'clock is great for concealed/iwb carry. However, for normal holster carry, this will allow the grip to stick out just a bit more, making drawing easier but also ease the ergonomics on your wrist and elbow. If you find something disadvantageous, it's you body mechanics telling you to try different.
Looking at the way you have you belts setup and the way you described what you believe to the proper use case for it, battle belts sound like a great supplement to a compact go-bag. Depending on how heavily you set up your go-bag, you could easily secure a set up battle belt to the outside of the bag so whenever you need to snatch the bag and go, you have a light gear set ready. Would also potentially free up space inside the bag since you won't need a gun and mags inside the bag anymore. I might try to build a set-up with that idea in mind sometime.
I honestly hate battle belts. I'm not a fan of wearing a bunch of crap around my hips. It's uncomfortable and it's a hindrance over long distances. I'm not looking for a direct action fight. That's what a plate carrier is for. Like you said, a belt is really only good for walking around your property or base camp. But then again, that's what a back pocket is for, extra mags. You can just loop your holster through your normal belt
I’ve been rocking my LBT 1961-AR. Much more comfortable to wear and quicker to put on than a battle belt. These days I just use my battle belt for pistol training sessions.
I’m told that many LE departments & offices are so fixated on the appearance of the uniform, that they simply will not allow tactical vests. Of course, years of duty belt is well know to be a long term cause of cumulative trauma injury, but I guess that’s not much of a concern to those who get to make that decision.
Good video! Was in Marine Security Forces in the Seventies the military had long understood the pistol belt/vehicle/aircraft problems and had issued us the old WWII M7 Leather Shoulder Holsters for our 1911s, while not ideal they worked, I used some pistol belts in infantry roles with Rhodesian style & AK 47 chest rigs and never had an issue …..just different body types /different preferences? ⚓️😎🇺🇸
Glad you gave a shout-out to G-Code Scorpion pouches with paddles. These things are awesome! Very handy piece of kit. I have these in my edc bag, and in my truck. Very nice to throw on for an unplanned shoot with friends, or for quick additional edc gear. Although, I love my multiple belt systems, especially for 2-gun matches, I do agree with you. Chest rig is probably the #1 piece of gear to acquire. Easier to run, sit, hold rifle mags, and if needed, hold a pistol. Plate carriers (with plates) on the other hand, eh. Mine has literally been sitting in my closet for years. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it, I guess.
I just use leather belts til they start splitting. Wanted to get a gun belt but I'm a poor. Would be nice to have a decent gun belt under $100 but they'll prolly be shit.
A battle belt has been a great choice for me when eradicating hogs and yokes, checking fences, checking feeders, and being out on my land. It allows me to carry my pistol, 2 spare ar mag, medical, work gloves, and a dump pouch that holds the tools, batteries, water, or whatever I need at the time.
That's a zoomer belt, a battle belts is an ALICE rig with 6 canteen pouches with the liner ripped out each holding 5+1 20/30 round magazines. If I'm throwing on a battle belt I'm expecting a fight in which case I'm doing my best impression of a company sized element till I can leave. Good setups though, in all seriousness. Simple.
At least u dont have to worry about coms on ur gear or taser. Taser sucks no matter were u put it. Cross draw is trash when ur wearing a pc and non pistol side non cross draw sucks when u sit in a car. A lot of gear over the years domt take into account falling sitting in a veh or going prone
Especially with my background I just can't see myself moving away from a war belt. It's a far more comfortable and flexible piece of 'light' kit, to support a pistol, some ammo, medical and another essential tool or two. Thanks for the details Hop. Plate carrier 101 and where you're at on your PC next?
I agree with you that belt should not be the first overt gear invested in. The objectively correct order of civilian fighting gear investment should be: CCW > chest rig > slick(ish) plate carrier for concealment or under chest rig > range/assaulter belt.
I have the Blue Alpha molle belt and found a fix to the problem of mag pouches and a Safariland holster sliding up and down that is relatively cheap and easy. You can actually take small zip ties and loop through the top molle loop of the mag and wrap it around the entire belt, cinching the mag/holster in to place. To give credit where it is due, I learned that trick feom Kinetic Consulting on one of his battle belt setups.
I don't know if anyone has taken the time to say thank you. My system has been refined significantly or vindicated all in part because of you and all UA-cam influences that have gone down the rabbit hole of new gimmicks and " innovation. "... to find that all that shit does not work 😒...in some instances you have help to solidify why I did not choose to go one way or the other...either way I appreciate all your videos the effort put in to them even if you might not notice moves mountains... THANK YOU. you and Brass fact have a no BS straight to the point attitude that is needed to get through the crap.👍🇺🇲
I JUST BOUGHT THE MECH THE OTHER DAY It looks so dope. No molle, full Tegris, overlap. Seems to be like a hybrid Axl and Esstac Enhanced all in one. Very excited to get mine.
As a fellow Oregonian do you have any recommendations where I can find a place to target shoot. a few friends recommended heading west since im just outside of Portland.Tillamook forest that area but I lack a vehicle with AWD. And I wanna do more pistol and rifle training without being restricted to an indoor range. Thanks for the video as always great stuff and I’m upgrading my ar with some of your recommendations from your budget build that I love.
I have a front and rear dump pouch, shotgun cards fit in rifle mag pouches and loose shells in the front pouch isnt terrible. Also really like the true north hanger with rti wheel. Super rigid, plenty of spots to put the drop wherever you want.
Don't worry there may be a 2023 2.0 and will definitely be a 2024 version One thing that changes with the wind is plate carrier and battle belt setups on the internet.
Been waiting for this video, honestly I prefer 1 pistol mag 2 rifle mags. I don't like the battle belts you use I like a 4" padded with inner and outer in velcro. Check out us grunt gear infidel 2
Hop, for better or worse, now that Garand Thumb only posts Demolition Ranch type content, you have involuntarily acquired the mantle of gear and gun professor. Congratulations
After having it get caught while getting into a car and not causing but massively aggravating a herniated disk I didn’t know about I stopped running my coyote tactical burrito at my 6:00. Still looking for a really slim alternative.
Quick idea for you. My esstac mag carrier had the same problem. I was experimenting with ways to make products I have work and found that zip tying the carrier helped with it coming up. Not ideal but it works.
The placement of a battle belt when you've got layers on drove me nuts too. I've got a belt pad from Wilder Tactical that has velcro loop on one side and a grippy rubbery surface on the other side, which makes it nice and stable to throw the belt on over something like a jacket or coat, it seems to be a solution for now. I hope you'll wax eloquent on the subject of suspenders at some point, even if it means delving into the dark realms of hypebeast belt kits.
I just picked up a belt. I went with the AWS SMU, HSGI double pistol mag taco, HSGI single rifle mag taco. Got a True North Concepts holster adapter with thigh strap, tourniquet w/holder, and I found a custom holster for my Sig X-Ten. I don't always want to carry a rifle when I go out in the woods so I got the X-Ten. I then built the belt around the idea of carrying only the X-Ten and occasionally a rifle. Plan on getting an ifak pouch and I already have the supplies to go in it.
here in appaliacha the jungle belt is ideal as a chest rig and assault pack replacement, it is alot more breathable as it sits on me on places that dont tend to sweat, if you are doing rural patrol in the mountains as a 24hr rig it is really more of a patrol pack thats quite easy to fight out of rather than a gunfighters belt,
I recently picked up a Nixieworks LFR and I'm in love. No more battle belt for me and it can go over my jacket no problem and has everything I need to be out for 2-3 days.
@@danman976 6 mags, two canteens, a radio, ifak, binos, and a light sleeping bag with bivy + a gore-tex top + high density snacks to hold me over for a couple days.
I personally have a pretty darn slick battle belt, at least compared to some I've seen. All of the layering constraints is a legitimate concern and should be properly addressed. When it comes to vehicles I've never really had a problem as long as I don't shove too much to the back of the belt. I prefer them to war belts most days because I live in an area where I'm not really layering all that much. As much as it sucks to say, this kind of stuff is always going to be mission dependent. I'm glad we got your insights, it very much helps when thinking about improving gear!
I also have a Walther PDP for my belt. If you are looking for a Safariland ALS holster for the Walther PDP look at the SIG P320 variants of holsters. I have a 4.5" PDP with TLR1 and Trijicon sRO in a Safariland 6390RDS 4502, which is a P320 with a 4.7" barrel holster.
When you guys gonna do a video on shooting clothing? I can never figure out what the hell makes decent shooting pants/shirts/jackets/socks/underwear? Great vid though, helped me out a bunch. God speed Hop.
Believe it or not I've had a really good experience with my Condor belt. It has a real cobra buckle. It's laser cut with a .5, a full 1, and a .5 so you can attach molle with a full loop of it. It has a grippy material on the back so you can put it over your layers. Overall it's a really nice belt and had served my well the last 2 years
Hop, I normally watch your vids cause you know what you're talking about, you're a "regular civilian" trying to do this tactical stuff,' and for the sarcasm. Today, though, you made me lol with "Think of it as a lattice top pie..." Yes, "off the rails" indeed... Thanks for a great video! Lmao!
Belts are good for speed during short (time wise) assaults and usually getting picked up off at the end. Never found a belt that's comfortable with rucking large amounts of weight. I can live with a belt and vehicle discomfort since at least I'm not walking.
Agreed: "Battle Belt" may be of great use to a law enforcement officer who has to carry a bunch of crap at the waist daily, but a "Battle Belt" is way down on my list of things to grab as a civilian home defender.
Every situation doesn't require the use of a handgun. In circumstances that deem a rifle necessary, you probably wouldn't need to carry a handgun. I think we center scenarios around CQB/close fighting too often, these ARE situations where a handgun/belt setup can be advantageous to have. But most of us probably aren't doing that kind of thing though. In overt situations where you'd have to travel long distances on foot to get from A-to-B, if you're traveling through forest/rough terrain, or in situations where moving quickly is more important than firepower, then a belt/handgun setup probably isn't necessary and we'd be better served if we removed the extra weight. My opinion.
I run the same war belt I built in 2010, VTAC Brokos belt with Eagle Industries and USGI taco mag pouches, a dump pouch, an IFAK, and a leatherman. I use a Safariland drop mount for the 6004 ALS holster I use for my M&P. I have VTAC suspenders, too, so I don't have to cinch the belt down onto my waist so it stays put. I can wear it over cold weather or rain gear, which is what I usually do. I also am tall, with enough torso length that this belt setup doesn't interfere with a plate carrier when I put one on.
Belts work great for direct action raids (shooting at cardboard) in my battlespace (backyard). My whole unit (groupchat) runs them!
This is the win right here... 🙂
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@@blacklotusgym You would just use him for his battlespace. LOL
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"and I know that it's really hard to find the actual Safariland holster that you're looking for because their website is a thing of Grecian tragedy, but that being said, if you just bought a Glock like a normal person..."
Our man Hop is a got dang poet.
Dude safari land website is shit!!! Lol. Unless you know the codes. So many codes!! Haha
CZ gang for life.
Next time I go to the range I'm going to wear a battle belt. And nothing else.
Gutsy move
Damn bro, got room for two?
@@spehhhsssmarineer8961 As long as there's no eye contact!
@@possumpatrol45Count me in too!
@possumpatrol45 I know where I'm looking
The warbelt/stand alone style is great for cold weather, just put it on over the warming layers
HPG prairie belt is a great standalone option that interfaces with their rucksacks as a lumbar belt
Brokenfridge Colorado especially
I’ve been enjoying the Trex Orion
@@The_trees_have_ears yep my current favorite
I've been using a 'Nam era alice belt/suspender set up over my cold weather hunting layers/clothes for years. It's not the most high speed tacticool gear, but it's for hunting in the Maine woods, it doesn't need to carry plates and a hundred AR mags. But it's functional, comfortable and fits well over cold weather gear&layers👍
Hey Hop, did you know you can put adhesive Velcro strips on the back of plastic attachments to get back some of the Velcro engagement?
I didn't watch the video nor read the comments but I'm sure this is an original thought that you haven't figured out or had anyone already tell you.. You're welcome!
I’m a carpenter so a padded war belt is intuitive for me. Used to reaching for my hammer and other tools at my waste. And the belt is always worn overtly, over my work clothes year round.
Roofers in the same boat
Also a carpenter. Same story here
Roofer bro, harness and battle belt is my go to
I feel ya, am so used to wearing a tool belt, that a scaled down padded belt to hold my holster and mag's)med etc. Seems like the way to go for me. Plus don't have to worry about if I'm wearing winter or summer clothing
Garage door installer here, I personally use an eagle industries gun belt as a host for my tool pouches and impact holster.
I hate belt stacking and the Velcro solves that.
As a police officer I developed severe lower back problems due to the gunbelt and all the Bat toys we had to wear on it. I was only 27 at the time. At 58, getting out of bed can be tough. Be careful what you wear and just make sure there is a reason for the gear you choose. If you can get away from the battle belt concept altogether it may be better for you in the long run.
Did you ever use a suspenders system?
If your were on patrol, prob had just as much to you with you sitting for extended periods of time.
How many dogs you kill?
@@eric_brooks 1 in 6 people have a low grade spine deformity.
@@eric_brooks Oh and be careful on what you put on the rear and sides. You have to be able to fall on it with force without causing paralyzation.
While not an "ideal" solution, when I was a LEO (wearing a full LEO belt, obviously, similar to a modern battle belt), during cold weather I had a nice tactical jacket from Germany which had the holster access side-zip function. A zipper stemming from the bottom of the side of the jacket, which allowed for easy holster access. I then wore my plate carrier overtop the jacket with additional handgun magazines. So even during "coldish" weather I was able to access my handgun and had expedient magazines. This was in the desert though so I didn't need to address rain as an issue.
5/11 makes a rain jacket with holster access zippers
If you're in a situation where you need your gun and mags, you'll just live with a few minutes of cold rain getting through and warm up later. Obviously
HSGI makes a gel-padded Velcro inner belt that turns conventional battle belts into a low-profile "war belt". Can be worn over clothing. It's handy to have to open up different ways of wearing a battle belt, basically when you need to wear oversized warm gear.
Very useful tip thank you!
I agree. I bought the HSGI gel-padded inner belt for this purpose. It works fantastic for me.
I also used and did like the HSGI padded belt liner, but recently switched over to Qore Icevents pads, and have found them to be lighter and more comfortable. It is more of a permanent warbelt setup (not really just onewrap but is not as easy to apply as the HSGI pad), but that’s my preference 95% of the time anyway. I usually don’t wear belts on a daily basis (Phlster Enigma convert), so it makes sense as something to throw on over my clothes.
I also own one. It is a great addition.
I have something similar and it does help alot, also using a shell jacket that can sinch at the waist helped with making sure my jacket didn't catch on my holster or get in the way of magazine re indexing.
The ultimate in larping fasion...the battlebelt. :D
I have one for the homestead. But I honestly almost never wear it.
Looks a bit more civilian than a vest tbh
Good points all around. I believe the battle belt concept has merits, but is overused in general because it's what all the competition/influencer shooters are using. They only need one maybe two spare rifle mags, and their handgun equipment. Fundamentally your belt is a good spot to attach items. Until you overload it with too much weight and your pants start to sag like a those 2000's era emo kids did. Then you need to help support the weight with suspenders or tighten your belt and give yourself a hernia. From my own experience I usually default to a "Jungle Belt" style that's attached to a chest rig or goes over a plate carrier with suspenders. My main experience comes from physical competition shooting like the desert brutality events and other similar matches. Where you need sustainment AND a handgun. So I usually put some load on my belt with water, medical, rifle ammo, handgun stuff, etc.
I think the jungle belt idea is underrated but I also see why. People view it as a replacement or stand in for a chest rig/kitted out plate carrier. When I believe it's an additional source of sustainment, for those. It's especially good when you need to carry a handgun with your full kit, because you need a belt anyways why not use it for other gear. Then you can also separate your handgun belt from your armor system/chest rig if you are at a more relaxed posture.
Being real, the only reason "jungle belts" are out is because of Hollywood and videogames. Plenty of folks are on UA-cam and competition circle are fully kitted up, and no where on their system is a rain jacket, sleeping system, etool, gas mask, nods, hide, binoculars, or sustainment. There's lots of equipment that a specific job might require, and Hollywood just doesn't make that fashionable.
Umm law enforcement and military?
I have the Mech belt too and I love it. I came to the same conclusion that molle on belts is just too much of an annoying compromise and I've velcroed everything. Thanks for the content man
I already have a trex Orion so I'm good on belts
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War belt style (as you said in the video) is great if you’re constantly getting in and out of trucks, or want to walk around your FOB, camp, etc. From an infantryman’s perspective, this is why I switched from a Battle belt to a war belt while on deployment l. Just my experience with that.
I like taking all that fat that you would have on your kit and moving it to the belt. Easier on the shoulders and very convenient when working with vehicles.
Additionally the first/second/third line gear is layed out for firstline- bare essentials to live another day. Secondline- the main harness that executes the fight. Thirdline= heavy sustainment for longterm living. I have a war belt style for similar purposes aka the EDC of warfighting and never being without a "force protection" loadout.
Yup, the war belt is very applicable in the real world. The average infantry GWOT loadout doesn’t fit well on a plate carrier and creates issues when firing from prone, leaving your cheeks sticking up in the air and greatly reducing accuracy. Moving items to a belt spreads it out more evenly, and takes some weight off your shoulders. I can understand the average larper probably doesn’t benefit from it as much though.
I'll also add a specific point on why you would get a battle belt: there are training facilities (Sig Academy among others) that won't let you run IWB holsters for many of the early classes because they view concealed carry as an advanced skill. Training is pretty much the only reason I have a battle belt, but it definitely simplifies things on the range.
I use a battle belt exclusively when walking my two dogs. It keeps their leashes, a climber's chalk bag full of treats, bear spray in a holster, and a Safariland ALS. I'm way out in the woods so it may be smarter to have a rifle for bears and mountain lions.
I personally prefer a jungle type webbing system over a battle belt. The ease of putting it on and taking it off while also having the extra support from the harness was nice. I also like to run slick carriers.
I even used to run a smersh and partizan harness for a while.
I’ve always seen a battle belt as useful for backpacking in the mountains, especially if you’re using it for other things, along with the magazines and medical supplies, I carry a climbing axe, bear spray, jet lighter, and a pair of drink coozies in case I get thirsty
Chest rig works waymobetta with a backpack 👍
All my backpacks have belts
I've wanted to see a "tool belt" that was built more like a 2 piece belt. I know it likely could not use velcro the same way as it just wouldn't last very long being worn 5days/week.
I was thinking about trying to get into a jungle belt for hunting. Those look perfect for short jonts in the woods during turkey season.
Belt and chest rig takes a lot of crap out of you backpack
Snacks, lights, and nav are all also nice to have on hand
I had success mixing the two by violating the current tactical instagram trends. Basic-ass flap magazine pouches often (but not always) ride lower than open tops do, as they cover up the entire magazine. So I put flap pouches on my belt, so they barely protrude above the belt line, and I put singles on my kit, so they barely protrude below the cummerbund.
Also as far as you mentioning civilian vs military context with the 1-2-3 line setup, that's an interesting topic. In the field I'm never going to have a belt with no vest. But I'm very often vest with no belt. Especially if my mission will be mostly truck based with little, if any at all, dismount work, in which case I'll store my belt under my seat and sit a bit more comfortably. So I had to use my belt to augment my vest. The majority of my combat load, plus IFAK, plus admin shit, is on my vest. On my belt are just pistol mags, 2 rifle mags, dump pouch (I can use cargo pockets if I don't have my belt, if I really need to), and a 3rd TQ because why not.
I also have my pistol mounted to my inner belt on a Safariland QLS. This lets me carry my pistol on base without having to wear my whole-ass battle belt just to get chow. It also lets me keep my pistol on me, mounted or dismounted, without my belt on. The QLS, besides giving some standoff for the belt and a jacket, also let me take it off while I'm in a place I don't need a pistol on my hip (ie. in my sleeping tent)
I've used a two piece belt for a while in competition, but it led to ridiculous lower back pain. I swapped using the velcro inner belt for a very thin inner belt pad, and it was an absolute game changer.
What inner pad? I've been looking for one of a while.
@@Schultz344 This one. Really like how small it is compared to other padded belts.
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@@Schultz344 Its one from the company Wilder Tactical.
I use the HSP D3 belt and really like it. It's big selling point is the 2" belt, so it actually works properly with MOLLE.
Nuanced+informative w/ some solid advice, nice
I am a poor. I just attach everything with paracord
I'm really digging the dump pouch from Flat Line Fiber Co. as it mimics the DM system by having the dump pouch located underneath mag pouches so it frees up the real estate on the battle belt. They have varying sizes so hopefully one will have the large opening you are looking for.
I have one on my other plate carrier actually
I like your civilian variation of the "line" concept, but I think the battle belt is actually second line of urgency or need. Running a velcro inner belt and lining up nice and straight with an outer belt that has your pouches and stuff is a lot slower than throwing on a chest rig or plate carrier that has the magazines and medical you'd use with the ultimately more useful tool, your rifle. The faster donning gear that supports the more useful tool comes first to me. Adding a battle belt is something that comes to mind at times when you have time to be prepared and plan and think to add a full sized sidearm, dump pouch, etc. But I guess in a sustained state of high, overt danger and readiness, the battle belt represents your dangerous-time EDC.
If I were working on the farm in a situation where I thought there was an escalated possibility of violence, I'd choose to wear a battle belt all day rather than a plate carrier or chest rig. To me, those are better to stash in the car or house, but the belt can be worn during normal activities.
I agree with your concept of why you might want a belt. For me, it's always been the same idea. I'll throw on a belt if I'm in a scenario where I'm doing shit that's not necessarily shooting, but I may end up needing to shoot. I've always thought that two layer belts were kind of a meme as well, I live in New England where for a pretty solid chunk of the year I'm wearing some sort of layers. Being able to throw my belt on over that just makes life a ton easier as opposed to fucking around by trying to tuck in a coat, or fit the coat over my jacket. In my head, I've always liked the idea of wearing a war belt with a plate carrier to more evenly spread my load. However, I usually end up just outright ditching the belt when I'm wearing a plate carrier. It's funny how much time I've put in to trying to buy different belts and set them up as opposed to the amount of time I've actually worn one.
Hope you do a review of your Dara holster. I have level 2s one for a PPQ/tlr and a G19/aplc that have held up so far and are one of the few level 2 options out there for some guns and light combos. I went in blind with never even hearing of the brand before.
I mean the materials are good, just don't have a ton of info on them.
“Jungle belts were popular on Instagram for about two weeks”
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Need this for 2030 when our civilization starts breaking down from food shortages and political unrest. Wake up kids. It's coming.
LBE/ Battle Jacket Systems with good waist and shoulder padding are optimal, the SADF Pattern/ Type 83 LBE is nearly optimal (and is easy to use with a Slick Vest, yes)- nearly, just needs some Pouch reconfiguration for better use, being stitched is the most bomb-proof (yet easy enough to repair at low cost) and reduces weight compared to MOLLE/ PALS stuff and ALICE Clip systems. Modularity and all the options therein are nice, but with an optimized and standardized layout for a simple system it reduces a lot of headache and saves money while being able to easily adapt to such a system.
Having used Duty and Battle Belts day in and day out for long hours over years, I can say Belt specific systems are awful on the body for that kind of use. They're great for the range, relatively short shooting competitions, and rapid short-lived operations/ raids where you're in an out, but not for extended duty or combat use, you need the support of your back/ shoulders/ chassis of the body in tandem with your hips to stay comfortable and distribute the weight more adequately for better use and performance.
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Some of these horrible UA-camrs make entire channels around battle belts. It's just.... weird lol
Love the video man!
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There's no accounting for taste.
First time I saw a war belt or battle belt or whatever was at a competition about 8 - 9 years ago now. HSGI and the guy loved the fact he could take it off/on between stages and have everything right there, didn't move on him, and was comfortable. So I bought one and 7ish years later really haven't changed it. I've got two kangaroo tacos weak side, douche pouch, canteen/water bottle pouch, HSGI blowout pouch, and then a Bianchi drop leg kit for the M12/84/92 military holster. I'm sure not high speed enough for guys these days, but it works.
Same.
The PDP SD Pro is such a sweet pistol but finding a holster for it has been a huge PITA, especially with a closed emitter optics that I'm not sure an active retention strap could get over, eventually went with a T. Rex Arms.
According to the Walther subreddit, Safariland P320 holsters work with the PDP.
Belts suck. Anything that holds that much weight needs shoulder straps or should be mounted on a plate carrier. I wore a LEO duty belt for 28 years in total. Uncomfortable, ackward for exiting vehicles quickly, and not conducive to moving as a team. My old army Viet Nam era LBE (issued to me in 1982) was even better. IMHO
agree, holster and 2 mag pouches is it
Battle belts are great for home defense as well, fast attachment everything on your hip.
Before you cast battle belts to the wind, I'd love to see your take on the Haley belt. Actual correct Molle spacing is making it the most tempting for me currently, mostly as a range accessory when I'm not in the mood for full kit.
The legit Molle spacing is cool and all, but when one wrap works perfectly well on a lower profile, lighter belt then I just don’t really see the need for it anymore.
Ukrainian here with an experience of ducking in trenches from explosions in all imaginable poses. I went with the belt that attaches to velcro part initially. Terrible decision for my case. I used it for magazine pouches to unload plate carrier, my spine and shoulders, and increase overall mobility, but instead I only limited it. If you have lots of magazine pouches on such belt they poke you painfully if you try doing anything except for standing still. But I can see why it is great for recreational shooting though.
Eventually I’ve switched to “jungle” belt with a suspension, which turned out to be an excellent choice. SNot only it does not limit your movements at all so you can roll around in mud with it all day, but you can also insert kevlar pack into it.
Great video. This is one of the first “battle belt” videos I’ve watched, and I have mine set up exactly in the same position as your. Diff stuff obviously, but in the same spots. It just kind of happened that way just from trying diff things in diff places. Thanks Hop.
This is why I support you. You are leaps and bounds better than most
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Battle belts are more or less range toys for most. They are mission specific, just like plate carriers. For the average joe just trying to be prepared for whatever, the warbelt or an LBV is a better choice, so in reality the 2 week instagram jungle kit makes more sense for general purpose things. In my time in the Corps I always stuck with the warbelt. You put it on, you take it off, it's grab and go, very simple and is multi season.
I was a machine gunner in the Marines, and I absolutely love gun-belts/battle-belts. I would often carry an M4 and an M240B, and I hated the double mag pouches on my PC because it made it difficult to get low behind the gun. I went to a gun belt and ran single mag pouches on my PC, and tried to keep everything as slick as possible while maintaining maximum ammunition. You really try to lower the risks of snagging gear when you're carrying a big ass machine gun. Nutnfancy always kind of annoyed me, but his POU and weight savings made a lot more sense when I started carrying 120lbs of shit through the swamp. Great video, thanks.
Just going to throw an Armchair Commando comment up as my experience is LEO and 3 gun.
You complain about belt setup issues yet duplicate the problem. When you run a duty belt (as I'd refer to this as) you need to look at placement (as stated in other comments).
Try moving your pistol mags to infront of your handgun in the 1230 ish position. that gets rid of that awkward weak side mag draw involving you to lean off to get at your mag. The cross reach is faster and puts less restriction on your arm movements for reload.
Also, if your torso is short, then you can't be like the cool kids and run a stanag mag there. Move it to your chest rig/plate carrier. The idea being, if you need a carbine, you probably need the armor.
For pouches, you can't run tactical pouches on a belt not designed for tactical pouches. Rather, try duty related pouches.
Lastly, which is just an opinion for speed and comfort, slide your pistol forward to like the 230 position. Having it past 3 o'clock is great for concealed/iwb carry. However, for normal holster carry, this will allow the grip to stick out just a bit more, making drawing easier but also ease the ergonomics on your wrist and elbow.
If you find something disadvantageous, it's you body mechanics telling you to try different.
Looking at the way you have you belts setup and the way you described what you believe to the proper use case for it, battle belts sound like a great supplement to a compact go-bag. Depending on how heavily you set up your go-bag, you could easily secure a set up battle belt to the outside of the bag so whenever you need to snatch the bag and go, you have a light gear set ready. Would also potentially free up space inside the bag since you won't need a gun and mags inside the bag anymore. I might try to build a set-up with that idea in mind sometime.
I honestly hate battle belts. I'm not a fan of wearing a bunch of crap around my hips. It's uncomfortable and it's a hindrance over long distances. I'm not looking for a direct action fight. That's what a plate carrier is for. Like you said, a belt is really only good for walking around your property or base camp. But then again, that's what a back pocket is for, extra mags. You can just loop your holster through your normal belt
I’ve been rocking my LBT 1961-AR. Much more comfortable to wear and quicker to put on than a battle belt.
These days I just use my battle belt for pistol training sessions.
I’m told that many LE departments & offices are so fixated on the appearance of the uniform, that they simply will not allow tactical vests. Of course, years of duty belt is well know to be a long term cause of cumulative trauma injury, but I guess that’s not much of a concern to those who get to make that decision.
Good video! Was in Marine Security Forces in the Seventies the military had long understood the pistol belt/vehicle/aircraft problems and had issued us the old WWII M7 Leather Shoulder Holsters for our 1911s, while not ideal they worked, I used some pistol belts in infantry roles with Rhodesian style & AK 47 chest rigs and never had an issue …..just different body types /different preferences? ⚓️😎🇺🇸
Glad you gave a shout-out to G-Code Scorpion pouches with paddles. These things are awesome! Very handy piece of kit. I have these in my edc bag, and in my truck. Very nice to throw on for an unplanned shoot with friends, or for quick additional edc gear. Although, I love my multiple belt systems, especially for 2-gun matches, I do agree with you. Chest rig is probably the #1 piece of gear to acquire. Easier to run, sit, hold rifle mags, and if needed, hold a pistol. Plate carriers (with plates) on the other hand, eh. Mine has literally been sitting in my closet for years. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it, I guess.
What's the med pouch on the top battle belt?
Edit: it may be the Defense Mechanism FAST Pouch in Ranger Green.
So I like the Old West gun belt. That's what I call a gun belt, only gun and ammo for working around a homestead, that's all I have to add
It's amazing to see a ~$30 Alice set up go for 600 fucking dollars...
WTF straps are garbage. No matter what i did with full mags my gear would sag and flop around when running
"I'm not made of money" while flexing NODs most videos. 😁 I'll trade you some trauma gear for a set.
I just use leather belts til they start splitting. Wanted to get a gun belt but I'm a poor. Would be nice to have a decent gun belt under $100 but they'll prolly be shit.
A battle belt has been a great choice for me when eradicating hogs and yokes, checking fences, checking feeders, and being out on my land.
It allows me to carry my pistol, 2 spare ar mag, medical, work gloves, and a dump pouch that holds the tools, batteries, water, or whatever I need at the time.
This is my EXACT purpose for the belt im building
@@PonyFoot123i’m a little late to the party but i’m building out a belt just for this. how are you liking so far?
That's a zoomer belt, a battle belts is an ALICE rig with 6 canteen pouches with the liner ripped out each holding 5+1 20/30 round magazines. If I'm throwing on a battle belt I'm expecting a fight in which case I'm doing my best impression of a company sized element till I can leave.
Good setups though, in all seriousness. Simple.
Look into “Ike” cut jackets when it comes to wearing a jacket with a belt. They’re designed to stop short so they don’t interfere with belts.
"If you bought a glock like a normal person" *Looks at CZ P10C*
At least u dont have to worry about coms on ur gear or taser. Taser sucks no matter were u put it. Cross draw is trash when ur wearing a pc and non pistol side non cross draw sucks when u sit in a car. A lot of gear over the years domt take into account falling sitting in a veh or going prone
Especially with my background I just can't see myself moving away from a war belt. It's a far more comfortable and flexible piece of 'light' kit, to support a pistol, some ammo, medical and another essential tool or two.
Thanks for the details Hop. Plate carrier 101 and where you're at on your PC next?
I agree with you that belt should not be the first overt gear invested in. The objectively correct order of civilian fighting gear investment should be: CCW > chest rig > slick(ish) plate carrier for concealment or under chest rig > range/assaulter belt.
He gives great advice for someone that's never done this in the military.
That Boo patch on Hop's carrier is 🔥
Where can I buy one??
lower profile, easy to take on and off, is why i like them.
I have the Blue Alpha molle belt and found a fix to the problem of mag pouches and a Safariland holster sliding up and down that is relatively cheap and easy. You can actually take small zip ties and loop through the top molle loop of the mag and wrap it around the entire belt, cinching the mag/holster in to place. To give credit where it is due, I learned that trick feom Kinetic Consulting on one of his battle belt setups.
I don't know if anyone has taken the time to say thank you. My system has been refined significantly or vindicated all in part because of you and all UA-cam influences that have gone down the rabbit hole of new gimmicks and " innovation. "... to find that all that shit does not work 😒...in some instances you have help to solidify why I did not choose to go one way or the other...either way I appreciate all your videos the effort put in to them even if you might not notice moves mountains... THANK YOU. you and Brass fact have a no BS straight to the point attitude that is needed to get through the crap.👍🇺🇲
I JUST BOUGHT THE MECH THE OTHER DAY
It looks so dope. No molle, full Tegris, overlap. Seems to be like a hybrid Axl and Esstac Enhanced all in one. Very excited to get mine.
I run an og tlv alice belt setup for hog hunting, gonna get a p84 to replace it soon
As a fellow Oregonian do you have any recommendations where I can find a place to target shoot. a few friends recommended heading west since im just outside of Portland.Tillamook forest that area but I lack a vehicle with AWD. And I wanna do more pistol and rifle training without being restricted to an indoor range. Thanks for the video as always great stuff and I’m upgrading my ar with some of your recommendations from your budget build that I love.
Got to the end tp realize it was all for nothing lol, much better option at the end.
Bro the timing on this video is insane. Exactly the stage I’m in with setting up my loadout
You sound like you're talking about CoD..
I don't think Tegris looks horrific, but I'm glad to hear someone else say it looks bad.
I have a front and rear dump pouch, shotgun cards fit in rifle mag pouches and loose shells in the front pouch isnt terrible. Also really like the true north hanger with rti wheel. Super rigid, plenty of spots to put the drop wherever you want.
Hop is the most grumpy and negative guntuber on UA-cam. Yet, I love it!!!
Don't worry there may be a 2023 2.0 and will definitely be a 2024 version
One thing that changes with the wind is plate carrier and battle belt setups on the internet.
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Been waiting for this video, honestly I prefer 1 pistol mag 2 rifle mags. I don't like the battle belts you use I like a 4" padded with inner and outer in velcro.
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Hop, for better or worse, now that Garand Thumb only posts Demolition Ranch type content, you have involuntarily acquired the mantle of gear and gun professor. Congratulations
It’s real sad to see Mike steep to such lows for the sake of the algorithm.
@@spehhhsssmarineer8961 the time tested result of hiring too many staff
@@davism131 It happened to most big you tubers, first they hire an editor and then suddenly they have an entire crew.
After having it get caught while getting into a car and not causing but massively aggravating a herniated disk I didn’t know about I stopped running my coyote tactical burrito at my 6:00. Still looking for a really slim alternative.
LBT makes a slimmer med pouch that I used to use
Quick idea for you. My esstac mag carrier had the same problem. I was experimenting with ways to make products I have work and found that zip tying the carrier helped with it coming up. Not ideal but it works.
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We agree and we love you, Hop!
The placement of a battle belt when you've got layers on drove me nuts too. I've got a belt pad from Wilder Tactical that has velcro loop on one side and a grippy rubbery surface on the other side, which makes it nice and stable to throw the belt on over something like a jacket or coat, it seems to be a solution for now. I hope you'll wax eloquent on the subject of suspenders at some point, even if it means delving into the dark realms of hypebeast belt kits.
I went with the Defense Mechanisms MEPC for my plate carrier, and I love it. Glad to hear good things about the belt, I’ll have to get one.
I just picked up a belt. I went with the AWS SMU, HSGI double pistol mag taco, HSGI single rifle mag taco. Got a True North Concepts holster adapter with thigh strap, tourniquet w/holder, and I found a custom holster for my Sig X-Ten. I don't always want to carry a rifle when I go out in the woods so I got the X-Ten. I then built the belt around the idea of carrying only the X-Ten and occasionally a rifle. Plan on getting an ifak pouch and I already have the supplies to go in it.
here in appaliacha the jungle belt is ideal as a chest rig and assault pack replacement, it is alot more breathable as it sits on me on places that dont tend to sweat, if you are doing rural patrol in the mountains as a 24hr rig it is really more of a patrol pack thats quite easy to fight out of rather than a gunfighters belt,
I recently picked up a Nixieworks LFR and I'm in love. No more battle belt for me and it can go over my jacket no problem and has everything I need to be out for 2-3 days.
What do you carry in your LFR?
@@danman976 6 mags, two canteens, a radio, ifak, binos, and a light sleeping bag with bivy + a gore-tex top + high density snacks to hold me over for a couple days.
What's the shell jacket and pants at 4:25?
I personally have a pretty darn slick battle belt, at least compared to some I've seen. All of the layering constraints is a legitimate concern and should be properly addressed. When it comes to vehicles I've never really had a problem as long as I don't shove too much to the back of the belt. I prefer them to war belts most days because I live in an area where I'm not really layering all that much. As much as it sucks to say, this kind of stuff is always going to be mission dependent. I'm glad we got your insights, it very much helps when thinking about improving gear!
I also have a Walther PDP for my belt.
If you are looking for a Safariland ALS holster for the Walther PDP look at the SIG P320 variants of holsters. I have a 4.5" PDP with TLR1 and Trijicon sRO in a Safariland 6390RDS 4502, which is a P320 with a 4.7" barrel holster.
When you guys gonna do a video on shooting clothing? I can never figure out what the hell makes decent shooting pants/shirts/jackets/socks/underwear? Great vid though, helped me out a bunch. God speed Hop.
Believe it or not I've had a really good experience with my Condor belt. It has a real cobra buckle. It's laser cut with a .5, a full 1, and a .5 so you can attach molle with a full loop of it. It has a grippy material on the back so you can put it over your layers. Overall it's a really nice belt and had served my well the last 2 years
The monotone sarcasm that you season your videos is what keeps me coming back
Nyet, cargo pockets are fine, comrade.
Hop, I normally watch your vids cause you know what you're talking about, you're a "regular civilian" trying to do this tactical stuff,' and for the sarcasm. Today, though, you made me lol with "Think of it as a lattice top pie..."
Yes, "off the rails" indeed...
Thanks for a great video! Lmao!
Belts are good for speed during short (time wise) assaults and usually getting picked up off at the end. Never found a belt that's comfortable with rucking large amounts of weight. I can live with a belt and vehicle discomfort since at least I'm not walking.
What is an instant Ghram?
@Wendigoslayer nice
Agreed:
"Battle Belt" may be of great use to a law enforcement officer who has to carry a bunch of crap at the waist daily, but a "Battle Belt" is way down on my list of things to grab as a civilian home defender.
Every situation doesn't require the use of a handgun. In circumstances that deem a rifle necessary, you probably wouldn't need to carry a handgun. I think we center scenarios around CQB/close fighting too often, these ARE situations where a handgun/belt setup can be advantageous to have. But most of us probably aren't doing that kind of thing though. In overt situations where you'd have to travel long distances on foot to get from A-to-B, if you're traveling through forest/rough terrain, or in situations where moving quickly is more important than firepower, then a belt/handgun setup probably isn't necessary and we'd be better served if we removed the extra weight. My opinion.
I run the same war belt I built in 2010, VTAC Brokos belt with Eagle Industries and USGI taco mag pouches, a dump pouch, an IFAK, and a leatherman. I use a Safariland drop mount for the 6004 ALS holster I use for my M&P. I have VTAC suspenders, too, so I don't have to cinch the belt down onto my waist so it stays put. I can wear it over cold weather or rain gear, which is what I usually do. I also am tall, with enough torso length that this belt setup doesn't interfere with a plate carrier when I put one on.
If I want to put my belt on over layers I use a padded innerbelt that AWS gear sells. Works like a smaller war belt in a pinch.