They mentioned Jack White in the intro, and at risk of being a nerd about it, I think some stuff is worth clarifying. Jack didn't use an octave fuzz on Seven Nation Army. That was a Digi-tech Whammy pedal bumping his signal down a full octave for the verse, and simply a Big Muff for the chorus/solo. The majority of the White Stripe stuff did not use octave fuzz as such, but a combination of a Big Muff and the Whammy in various configurations, with a few songs getting harmonies from a Pog. Jack has started using octave fuzz for recently, specifically his Bumble Buzz pedal, and the Third Man Records Plasma Pedal both have some octave effects to them, though in very different degrees and styles. His last album, Boarding House Reach has a couple of solos and riffs that use octave fuzz, with Over and Over and Over coming esp. to mind for riffs, or Respect Commander for a solo. Again, sorry if I went on a bit, but I think this is worth pointing out.
If I remember correctly the reason the neck pickup is more pronounced around fret 12 is because the string has its maximum amplitude right over the pickup because it's sat equidistant between bridge and fret. There's also less harmonic content there. I may be wrong though, my brain is mush lately.
yeah, the fundamental and octave harmonics are really accentuated there, and the octave circuit works best with just octave and fundamental harmonics. Other harmonics mush it up a bit, which also sounds cool but there isn't so much a pronounced octave.
Exactly. It's why on some guitars, a natural harmonic on the 5th fret will just disappear when you use the neck pickup. The pickup is placed directly at where the 24th fret would be, which is also where the string is divided in fourths (5th fret, 12th fret, 24th fret). Playing at the 12th fret means the pickup is picking up the node of the string directly an octave above the fretted note. So if you could have a pickup that moved to be exactly 12 frets above any note you fretted, you could get the octave effect to be nice and pronounced everywhere!
yeah playing around that fret 11 - 14 area put the first "node" where the string vibrates around to produce a first order harmonic is right over the pickup, so you get lots of that and lots of fundamental
@@ThatPedalShow That was a great show! I have a PP Fuzz and love it! Mick said about it cleaning up really well - do you guys have any plans to feature 'great clean up pedals' as i feel it's best feature hasn't been seen...? It's seriously changed the way i play (for the better ha ha!). Great work guys - TPS and PP!
FINALLY!!!! After what 5 years of asking for it, I finally get the TPS Octave Fuzz episode. You say 45 minutes of octave fuzz is peoples nightmare, well it's my noisey Heaven! (seriously Dan in Drop D on the 3699 is the closest to "home" you guys have got to tones I go for personally...probably why I'm not in any bands) Interesting things I didn't realise, beside how they worked & how different the shift from Octavio to Superfuzz style is (as different as Fuzz Face is to Big Muff), the Octavio types remind me very much of a ring modulator in how they are so specific. Might be why I don't care for them. But anything Foxx Tone Machine, like the 3699, the old Danelectro French Toast, Diamond F-Octave, or the one I have the MXR LaMachine. Very interesting to find out how the sound that I adore actually works...and how it sounds in the hands of better players for what was (and likely would always be for me) all too brief a time. Now I ask...when's Octave Fuzz part 2?!
Thank you. Thank you. THANK YOU! I've been waiting for this episode for months, and you did not disappoint! I have been chasing the octave sound on violin (where it works all over the instrument, and the bow solves the sustain issue, and the gating works to reduce feedback), and this show is opening so many doors/possibilities. Rectification makes sense! Never knew how this worked. And the Jonny Octave, which initially I disliked on its own, finally makes sense when you combine it with other fuzz pushing it. (Maybe that makes sense across the board). Now I understand why Josh Smith uses the "Believe" with fuzzes pushing it too... Versatile for compact rigs. I've got a lot of stacking to try out...
The octave effect got started independent of fuzz. The Octavia or Octavio has an input driver but is not a fuzz and it was/is normally used driven by a fuzz, as otherwise it tends to gate off sustain. Likewise the Green Ringer. The reason that a more obvious octave up is produced by the higher notes of the guitar is that the higher notes contain less harmonics. The closer the input is to a pure sine wave the clearer the octave effect becomes. This is also why using the neck pickup and rolling down the tone control produces a clearer octave effect, the neck pickup senses more of the fundamental note and the tone filter is removing upper harmonics. The problem with driving the octave effect with a fuzz is that the fuzz is producing square waves rather than pure sine waves. The result of full wave rectifying a square wave is a signal that contains a lot of other harmonics as well as the octave up. When Dan talks about the Danelectro 3699 I could swear he says the octave up effect is 'done with transistors not diodes'. I'm guessing he meant to say transformer. Danelectro say that the 3699 is the Foxx pedal with a few teaks. The original Foxx Tone Machine uses a transistor phase splitter driving two diodes to produce the reification effect. As Dan says there are two more diodes used for clipping further on in the circuit.
Love the Pedal Pawn through the Octahive! Really digging my King Tone Mini Ge (in Zonk mode, slightly under biased) into my Henretta Purple Octopus. Also, just got the 25th anniversary Fuzz Factory...still playing around with the 10,000 different sounds, but there are nature Octave sounds that pop out. Love how subtly different Fuzz is from one to another. Always inspiring.
Hats off to Dan for coming up with some interesting little melodic ideas, big fan of his playing, some things just fall out of his guitar sometimes that really lights up the ear.
The TC sub 'n up is a great alternative to the pog, that doesn't get enough love. There are toneprints, polyphonic and "vintage" modes that get you in the vein of all of the stuff in this episode when mixed with a tonebender or fuzzface and you can add chorusing, flanging, etc. in the editor program to get into the b3 organ camp.
I hate to contradict, but the FOXX Tone Machine definitely uses diodes for recification and the octave, and separate ones are used for hard clipping. The superfuzz is all transistors for the octave.
Great show gents. I just added one of those Bigfoot Octo Puss passive pedals to my board and its great, especially with my Pedal Pawn Fuzz going into it. Plus it doesn't take up another power slot.
The Zep track with the blue box was the Fool in the Rain Solo. I love the classic Octavio ones - so cutting, gritty and musical in its imperfection. In general far prefer the cutting to the ultra wooly/bassy side of fuzz with the exception of muffs which I use more for smooth modulated leads rather than sludge
At the risk of blabbering on a bit I'll try make a long story short and guaranteed wont succeed. (And yes this is in an octave fuzz vid😂) Music has been everything for me. Went to uni studied it with no theory knowledge prior, just love for it. Then I started to grow distant with it, I had some big life things go on, some great, some terrible, all changed me. I didn't pick up my guitar for years.. depression is a dick btw. Recently back to being massively inspired. Went and bought a new guitar, an amp and started to re learn! You guys are wicked and have kickstarted that for me. And thanks for the Doyle tip! LOVE!!!!!! Keep making massive vids on everything you guys are legends! Love ya!
I recently added the Danelectro 3699 fuzz to my board thinking it would replace my EQD Fuzz Master General and I've ended up having both on the board because they sound so good in their own right. The Fuzz Master General is incredible for neck pickup, upper neck ring mod type tones and it is all over the new album I'm putting together. Awesome show guys!
😁😁 That ending was hilarious - nice one on the shout out to Zachary Vex, his stuff is always outstanding!! Oh and I know you did a show with the Bigfoot Octo Puss, another great octave fuzz - so impressed was I, I bought one! Cheers guys KUTGW!!
Hi Guys, love the show, as always. Two TPS hoodies arrived on Wednesday, so my winter wardrobe is complete, and I'll be looking cool whilst keeping warm. Thanks to Katherine and the whole gang, and fuzz on!
“And you shall be healed” HAHAHA thanks Mick. Fun episode! The POG has got me wanting an episode full of synth pedals though! Bonus points if Dan pulls out the Ed Strat with the infinite sustain and Mick plays the Jazzmaster. 🙏✨
As always... a great primer on Octave Fuzz. However when you were showing the 3699 Fuzz, I think you missed citing a prime example of that sound... Adrian Belew's "Big Electric Cat." AB used the original FoxxTone Fuzz all over that song, and it's a "melt your face off" tone.
Great episode fellas. I just got a Suhr Rufus Reloaded. Great pedal allows you to switch the octave effect on or off by holding the switch down for a second. like having 2 pedals in one.
After playing for 25 years, I finally understand octave fuzz and have learned to love it. The songs that helped me fall in love with it are Parchman Farm and Evil by a lesser known 70's band known as Cactus. They were such a fantastic rock band that should have been bigger in my opinion.
Awesome show guys! You say fuzz and I'm in. Love that you cover a variety of octave fuzz tones. Love the crazy stuff, but that Argo is just so smooth and musical- I could see playing that one often and not just as the occasional "effect" - totally sweet.
Fulltone Ultimate Octave and Roger Mayer Octave pedals are less spitty and much more versatile due to gain on and off functions and tone knobs and fuzz or octave on/off options. Own them both and absolutely love em. Love ya work guys.. Paul..Victoria Downunder.🤘👍🎸
Noob level - every time they collapse giggling Casual level - every time someone says interesting Weekend warrior level - when the horn honks Custom shop re-issue level - for the entire length of a tangent W/d/w dual tomato dumble level - from waking up
everytime dan say “t shaped object” everytime mic suddedly changes key mid-noodle everytime either of them say “clipping” everytime either of them mispronounce the word impedance, intentionally or not 😂
We often incorrectly attribute Muff style fuzzes when thinking of Dan Auerbach of The Black Keys. Dan switched over to Companion / super fuzz types octave fuzzes ever since the Brothers album. Dan Auerbach is the master of tastefully using octave fuzz for a more musical flow IMO. Check out their latest album for some rad octave fuzz tones.
I can recommend Joe Gore's Screech: the strongest, purest octave ever. It sounds like a soprano and it has the octave on all pickup and all over the neck.
So excited for this video, but Chicago Iron owns the objective king of these things and no mention by our pedal board professors. Damn, boys. You can’t show every pedal, but you left out Zeus. I do like some of these alternatives, however. Octa-fuzz forever! I love the following for the Octavian sounds: Blue on black -kenny Wayne Shepherd Belief - John Mayer Fool in the rain - Led zeppelin I’m bad, I’m nationwide - ZZ Top Bad penny - Rorry Gallagher LED boots- Jeff Beck Scumbag blues- them crooked vultures Come on over - kenny Wayne Shepherd And of course, Jimi’s: one rainy wish, purple haze, we gotta live together, fire, machine fun, little miss lover, little wing, and who knows. Also, Lance Keltner’s demo of the Nik Huber Krautster has to be the best Octa-fuzz tone, ever. Do yourself a favor and search youtube for it, but wear a diaper as you’ll crap your shorts, for sure. This is fun!
My first octave fuzz, and only one ‘til recently, was a Prescription Electronics Experience. It’s basically a Foxx Tone Machine clone with a Swell option that takes you into bizarro territory. Lotsa fun! I think it preceded the COB. I’ve added a Supreme to the mix now, also much fun.
Oh damn, this could've been the episode with the mxr blue box smoothly sneaked in. Bad timing. And after watching the episode until the end... You actually bought it as well Dan! Me too! What a weird coincidence with the videos etc.
Since it wasn't really mentioned in the episode, the Pedal Pawn Fuzz is supposed to be the silicon Diaz Texas Square Face thing, Cesar Diaz' Fuzz Face mod for SRV. Homestead Amps, who carry on the Diaz brand in a sense, make a Germanium version called the Preacher. 🤟
Lots of cool effects! One unique pedal to add to this mix is the Foxrox Octron. All analog octave above and below with full mix control of both and dry signal.
I like the new Danelectro pedals. At first I assumed they were simply more of their super cheap line, but they're more high end, and wasI very pleasantly surprised! The Roebuck is a really great fuzz! And this octave one is cool too!
Just make sure it is as tasty as the Pigdog London fuzzes. Do not go mildly on Fuzz pedals, i hope Dan makes a beast fuzz for rhythm and lead explosions. Go all the Fuzz way or dont even build another pale pedal.
Great episode though I wish it could have been longer as well. I've found I really love the sound of the Super Fuzz type, but that Mythos Argo is magnificent. I have a Z Vex Fuzz Factory and there are octave fuzz tones in there, if you can find them and the temperature is reasonably stable. I have an Earthquaker Pitch Bay (now discontinued) which is a bit POG-like and a bit Whammy-like though definitely it's own thing. I set it to blend a 5th up, an octave down, and the root, and put a fuzz or distortion before it - pretty great sound. Thanks, guys!
Always liked Joey's story about his octave fuzz ... 'Is it broken' ....'It must be broken'.... 'I'm returning this'. I dont use it, watched to learn, great episode.
If you roll off top end (tone control) , the octave pops out more, it's less hidden by harmonics. If you build you own (highly recommended adventure), you can build in a low pass filter, so you don't need to roll off the tone every time.
Little more on the obscure alternative side, but Howe Gelb used a lot of octavia style fuzz in the early Giant Sand records for screwy noise tones, and then Rowland S. Howard inspired me to get a Blue Box. The stories surrounding the feedback on the song The Friend Catcher (The Birthday Party) are worth a read.
Something I would find very interesting would be a mic pre/analog channel strip test. I've tried to get classic guitar tones - Ritchie Blackmore's Machine Head era, classic Status tones etc. I believe the mic pres and channel strips made a huge impact on the tone back in the day. Nowadays the mic pres are super clean and transparant, but that wasn't the case 40-50 years ago. Have a great weekend!
Yep, no arguments here... and then of course all the subsequent EQ and compression/limiting/mattering etc. It ended up (and continues to end up) a far cry from what’s coming out of the speaker.... super interesting topic! Edit, mastering. Sorry!
That Pedal Show Exactly. I found the isolated guitar track from Highway Star by Deep Purple. Strat->some sort of boost->AC30. The sound is huge! But it doesn’t sound like that setup. The bottom end is massive but there’s still a clear top end.
I recently bought the Honey Badger and I gotta say it's honestly one of my favourite purchases, in a while. (And I purchase more pedals than I should!) Such a sick pedal!
To do the POG justice, hit it with a compressor and send it into a high gain amp that can deal well with the polyphony (I like a Mesa Recto). It's absolutely MONSTROUS. Like a herd of pissed off rhinos.
Oh man. I've been wanting to try an octave fuzz for a long time now but haven't had the guts to pull the trigger on one. Never knew how to use one with my rig. This should help.
Great to finally see Pedal Pawn on the show. Look forward to seeing an episode where both fuzz and Texas twang get a stand alone play through. Best clean up in the biz imo
Never a big fan of octave fuzz until you guys hit that 3699. Suddenly I saw a future where my Bass VI was destroying a great many combo amps. Shake, rattle, and roll.
Can't believe how quickly Mick answered/moved on from the question about where the '61 Strat had gone! Probably a sad departure, and I'd had my suspicions after the last several episodes without it. Although the '61 will be missed, Blue is sounding spectacular! Cheers!
They mentioned Jack White in the intro, and at risk of being a nerd about it, I think some stuff is worth clarifying. Jack didn't use an octave fuzz on Seven Nation Army. That was a Digi-tech Whammy pedal bumping his signal down a full octave for the verse, and simply a Big Muff for the chorus/solo. The majority of the White Stripe stuff did not use octave fuzz as such, but a combination of a Big Muff and the Whammy in various configurations, with a few songs getting harmonies from a Pog. Jack has started using octave fuzz for recently, specifically his Bumble Buzz pedal, and the Third Man Records Plasma Pedal both have some octave effects to them, though in very different degrees and styles. His last album, Boarding House Reach has a couple of solos and riffs that use octave fuzz, with Over and Over and Over coming esp. to mind for riffs, or Respect Commander for a solo.
Again, sorry if I went on a bit, but I think this is worth pointing out.
Thank you, super interesting! Useful and valuable clarification - we love it!
When you want to nerd out about gear, this is the place ;)
Jack White demonstrates Seven Nation Army in the documentary “It Might Get Loud”. It’s definitely a Whammy pedal.
TPS where truth still matters :)
@@ThatPedalShow Wow, pretty psyched you guys actually read my comment. Love the videos, and thanks!
what is this?! An octave fuzz episode for ants?! It needs to be at least three times this size!
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He's absolutely right....
Love the Eric Gales shoutout! I'm from Memphis and first saw him play when he was 16. Several friends have gigged and toured with him over the years.
If I remember correctly the reason the neck pickup is more pronounced around fret 12 is because the string has its maximum amplitude right over the pickup because it's sat equidistant between bridge and fret. There's also less harmonic content there. I may be wrong though, my brain is mush lately.
yeah, the fundamental and octave harmonics are really accentuated there, and the octave circuit works best with just octave and fundamental harmonics. Other harmonics mush it up a bit, which also sounds cool but there isn't so much a pronounced octave.
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One reason 24 fret neck pick ups don’t sound quite right.
Exactly. It's why on some guitars, a natural harmonic on the 5th fret will just disappear when you use the neck pickup. The pickup is placed directly at where the 24th fret would be, which is also where the string is divided in fourths (5th fret, 12th fret, 24th fret). Playing at the 12th fret means the pickup is picking up the node of the string directly an octave above the fretted note.
So if you could have a pickup that moved to be exactly 12 frets above any note you fretted, you could get the octave effect to be nice and pronounced everywhere!
Sounds legit
yeah playing around that fret 11 - 14 area put the first "node" where the string vibrates around to produce a first order harmonic is right over the pickup, so you get lots of that and lots of fundamental
Wow ❤️ What a show! 🎛 Thanks so much for the feature guys 💥
You’re so welcome, sounds killer!
@@ThatPedalShow That was a great show! I have a PP Fuzz and love it! Mick said about it cleaning up really well - do you guys have any plans to feature 'great clean up pedals' as i feel it's best feature hasn't been seen...? It's seriously changed the way i play (for the better ha ha!). Great work guys - TPS and PP!
Who Knows from Band of Gypsy's album is one of Jimi's best octave fuzz moments!😊
I’m so excited! I’ve been waiting for this episode!
Right there with you! I’m on the hunt!
Me too!!!
Blue Box is in “Fool In The Rain”-Led Zep
My first pedal, so awesome. 1994
FINALLY!!!! After what 5 years of asking for it, I finally get the TPS Octave Fuzz episode. You say 45 minutes of octave fuzz is peoples nightmare, well it's my noisey Heaven! (seriously Dan in Drop D on the 3699 is the closest to "home" you guys have got to tones I go for personally...probably why I'm not in any bands)
Interesting things I didn't realise, beside how they worked & how different the shift from Octavio to Superfuzz style is (as different as Fuzz Face is to Big Muff), the Octavio types remind me very much of a ring modulator in how they are so specific. Might be why I don't care for them. But anything Foxx Tone Machine, like the 3699, the old Danelectro French Toast, Diamond F-Octave, or the one I have the MXR LaMachine. Very interesting to find out how the sound that I adore actually works...and how it sounds in the hands of better players for what was (and likely would always be for me) all too brief a time.
Now I ask...when's Octave Fuzz part 2?!
Then you need to try the Prescription Electronics Experience. Trust me. 😏
QOTSA - Little Sister solo... so good.
I use a Vox Trike for that one. It does the job.
Thank you. Thank you. THANK YOU! I've been waiting for this episode for months, and you did not disappoint! I have been chasing the octave sound on violin (where it works all over the instrument, and the bow solves the sustain issue, and the gating works to reduce feedback), and this show is opening so many doors/possibilities.
Rectification makes sense! Never knew how this worked. And the Jonny Octave, which initially I disliked on its own, finally makes sense when you combine it with other fuzz pushing it. (Maybe that makes sense across the board). Now I understand why Josh Smith uses the "Believe" with fuzzes pushing it too... Versatile for compact rigs. I've got a lot of stacking to try out...
The octave effect got started independent of fuzz. The Octavia or Octavio has an input driver but is not a fuzz and it was/is normally used driven by a fuzz, as otherwise it tends to gate off sustain. Likewise the Green Ringer. The reason that a more obvious octave up is produced by the higher notes of the guitar is that the higher notes contain less harmonics. The closer the input is to a pure sine wave the clearer the octave effect becomes. This is also why using the neck pickup and rolling down the tone control produces a clearer octave effect, the neck pickup senses more of the fundamental note and the tone filter is removing upper harmonics. The problem with driving the octave effect with a fuzz is that the fuzz is producing square waves rather than pure sine waves. The result of full wave rectifying a square wave is a signal that contains a lot of other harmonics as well as the octave up.
When Dan talks about the Danelectro 3699 I could swear he says the octave up effect is 'done with transistors not diodes'. I'm guessing he meant to say transformer. Danelectro say that the 3699 is the Foxx pedal with a few teaks. The original Foxx Tone Machine uses a transistor phase splitter driving two diodes to produce the reification effect. As Dan says there are two more diodes used for clipping further on in the circuit.
Love the Pedal Pawn through the Octahive! Really digging my King Tone Mini Ge (in Zonk mode, slightly under biased) into my Henretta Purple Octopus. Also, just got the 25th anniversary Fuzz Factory...still playing around with the 10,000 different sounds, but there are nature Octave sounds that pop out.
Love how subtly different Fuzz is from one to another. Always inspiring.
Blue on Black`s solo by Kenny Wayne Shepherd is one of the best examples of an octave fuzz being used very tastefully.
Agree love blue on black
I wonder if that inspired the album that Death released when he left Wyld Stallions - "Pale on Pale"
Do you know what his setup is/was for that song? I wanna know what fuzz he's using: has a fucking killer sound!
@@jacobhartmann1050 it’s an original tychohabre octave pedal, a fulltone of-2 is a currently available clone of it
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Hats off to Dan for coming up with some interesting little melodic ideas, big fan of his playing, some things just fall out of his guitar sometimes that really lights up the ear.
Wow, thanks so much 🤓🙏
The Danelectro 3699 is quite impressive and versatile. Thanks gents. Good show.
The TC sub 'n up is a great alternative to the pog, that doesn't get enough love. There are toneprints, polyphonic and "vintage" modes that get you in the vein of all of the stuff in this episode when mixed with a tonebender or fuzzface and you can add chorusing, flanging, etc. in the editor program to get into the b3 organ camp.
Daniel played “Outshined”! My life is complete😊
I hate to contradict, but the FOXX Tone Machine definitely uses diodes for recification and the octave, and separate ones are used for hard clipping. The superfuzz is all transistors for the octave.
Great show gents. I just added one of those Bigfoot Octo Puss passive pedals to my board and its great, especially with my Pedal Pawn Fuzz going into it. Plus it doesn't take up another power slot.
Mick, the Gold Top speaks to you man! You smile every time you play it. And sounds KILLER.
I really love it. Such a great guitar. Such an expensive guitar. Oh dear. ;0)
That Pedal Show I feel that! Expensive guitars are my weakness though.
The Zep track with the blue box was the Fool in the Rain Solo. I love the classic Octavio ones - so cutting, gritty and musical in its imperfection. In general far prefer the cutting to the ultra wooly/bassy side of fuzz with the exception of muffs which I use more for smooth modulated leads rather than sludge
Classic tps, this is my favorite kind of episode, i like when you pick a particular effect type as a topic and dwell on it. Octave fuzz rocks!
I've been begging for this since the first episode I ever watched
I would LOVE for you guys to do an expose episode on prescription electronics.
At the risk of blabbering on a bit I'll try make a long story short and guaranteed wont succeed. (And yes this is in an octave fuzz vid😂) Music has been everything for me. Went to uni studied it with no theory knowledge prior, just love for it. Then I started to grow distant with it, I had some big life things go on, some great, some terrible, all changed me. I didn't pick up my guitar for years.. depression is a dick btw. Recently back to being massively inspired. Went and bought a new guitar, an amp and started to re learn! You guys are wicked and have kickstarted that for me. And thanks for the Doyle tip! LOVE!!!!!! Keep making massive vids on everything you guys are legends! Love ya!
Died at the end when the POG got added to all the others playing at once. Lovely moment. Great video guys!
The guitar solo on Unknown Mortal Orchestra's song Hunnybee has some of the sweetest octave fuzz Ive ever heard!
Sounded good.
I love fuzz in stoner rock and psychedelic rock. Check out the band Earthless.
Well timed! I bought an MXR Blue Box on Reverb and it should arrived today!
I recently added the Danelectro 3699 fuzz to my board thinking it would replace my EQD Fuzz Master General and I've ended up having both on the board because they sound so good in their own right. The Fuzz Master General is incredible for neck pickup, upper neck ring mod type tones and it is all over the new album I'm putting together. Awesome show guys!
YES! The episode we were all waiting for!
😁😁 That ending was hilarious - nice one on the shout out to Zachary Vex, his stuff is always outstanding!! Oh and I know you did a show with the Bigfoot Octo Puss, another great octave fuzz - so impressed was I, I bought one! Cheers guys KUTGW!!
I have an old ZVex Octane 3. It’s killer.
Love the argonaut I have one. It's not a pedal it's an instrument. And the boost alone is awesome 👌💥
Hi Guys, love the show, as always. Two TPS hoodies arrived on Wednesday, so my winter wardrobe is complete, and I'll be looking cool whilst keeping warm. Thanks to Katherine and the whole gang, and fuzz on!
Hooray! Thank you for buying them!
“And you shall be healed” HAHAHA thanks Mick. Fun episode! The POG has got me wanting an episode full of synth pedals though! Bonus points if Dan pulls out the Ed Strat with the infinite sustain and Mick plays the Jazzmaster. 🙏✨
Perfect day for my “all you need is fuzz” shirt to arrive in the post!
6:51 ...Mick Mick Mick! You are completely In flow ....wonderful phrases....superb
As always... a great primer on Octave Fuzz. However when you were showing the 3699 Fuzz, I think you missed citing a prime example of that sound... Adrian Belew's "Big Electric Cat." AB used the original FoxxTone Fuzz all over that song, and it's a "melt your face off" tone.
Red Beard missed a huge opportunity and should have called it "Honey Badger Don't Give A Fuzz" and I will comment this every time I see thiat pedal.
Put that on a new TPS T-shirt!
Great show! The Myriad Fuzz seems to bring out that octave sound sometimes. I absolutely love it!
+1 just for Eric Gales shoutout! Such an amazing player/performer and incredible story. Would love to see him on the show eventually.
Great episode fellas. I just got a Suhr Rufus Reloaded. Great pedal allows you to switch the octave effect on or off by holding the switch down for a second. like having 2 pedals in one.
After playing for 25 years, I finally understand octave fuzz and have learned to love it. The songs that helped me fall in love with it are Parchman Farm and Evil by a lesser known 70's band known as Cactus. They were such a fantastic rock band that should have been bigger in my opinion.
Fuzz is never enough, 45 minutes will fly by. 😁😁😁
60secs is all I can tolerate so 45? Not a chance in Hades.
@@mxh5647 😁😁😁
Fascinating show, as I just got the warm audio foxy tone box a great octave fuzz
Can't go wrong with a fuzz show. Great one! With all the talk about ZVEX maybe a show with contemporary fuzz pedals would be an interesting one.
Awesome show guys! You say fuzz and I'm in. Love that you cover a variety of octave fuzz tones. Love the crazy stuff, but that Argo is just so smooth and musical- I could see playing that one often and not just as the occasional "effect" - totally sweet.
Fulltone Ultimate Octave and Roger Mayer Octave pedals are less spitty and much more versatile due to gain on and off functions and tone knobs and fuzz or octave on/off options. Own them both and absolutely love em.
Love ya work guys.. Paul..Victoria Downunder.🤘👍🎸
Great vid as usual. I seem to remember reading that Pedal Pawn fuzz is based on the Square Face Casper Diaz made for SRV.
That POG effect on the fuzzes at the very end was awesome.
Is there a TPS Drinking Game yet? Can we take a drink when Dan plays two bars of Outshined?
Noob level - every time they collapse giggling
Casual level - every time someone says interesting
Weekend warrior level - when the horn honks
Custom shop re-issue level - for the entire length of a tangent
W/d/w dual tomato dumble level - from waking up
everytime dan say “t shaped object”
everytime mic suddedly changes key mid-noodle
everytime either of them say “clipping”
everytime either of them mispronounce the word impedance, intentionally or not 😂
Eric Gales is amazing. Great show guys!
Jimmy Page used the blue box octave on the album “In Through the Out Door” on the song “Fool in the Rain.
"Propeller" by Paul Gilbert is what comes to mind for me as a stellar example
I swear you read my mind, I've been looking at octave fuzzes all morning 😂
Can you PLEASE use the pedal pawn fuzz some more in another show! Please and thank you! Great job you guys, best show on the UA-cams
We often incorrectly attribute Muff style fuzzes when thinking of Dan Auerbach of The Black Keys. Dan switched over to Companion / super fuzz types octave fuzzes ever since the Brothers album. Dan Auerbach is the master of tastefully using octave fuzz for a more musical flow IMO. Check out their latest album for some rad octave fuzz tones.
Dan Auerbach's tones is what got me into fuzzes. He also used them on earlier albums. Ibanez Standard Fuzz
@@Onetinsoldier Awesome! Ya that Ibanez fuzz is basically a Super Fuzz from what I hear.
@@jeremiahMc11 Yeah it is. JD Simo's new album has a lot of songs with superfuzz. Sounds mega :D
I can recommend Joe Gore's Screech: the strongest, purest octave ever. It sounds like a soprano and it has the octave on all pickup and all over the neck.
So excited for this video, but Chicago Iron owns the objective king of these things and no mention by our pedal board professors. Damn, boys. You can’t show every pedal, but you left out Zeus. I do like some of these alternatives, however. Octa-fuzz forever!
I love the following for the Octavian sounds:
Blue on black -kenny Wayne Shepherd
Belief - John Mayer
Fool in the rain - Led zeppelin
I’m bad, I’m nationwide - ZZ Top
Bad penny - Rorry Gallagher
LED boots- Jeff Beck
Scumbag blues- them crooked vultures
Come on over - kenny Wayne Shepherd
And of course, Jimi’s: one rainy wish, purple haze, we gotta live together, fire, machine fun, little miss lover, little wing, and who knows.
Also, Lance Keltner’s demo of the Nik Huber Krautster has to be the best Octa-fuzz tone, ever. Do yourself a favor and search youtube for it, but wear a diaper as you’ll crap your shorts, for sure.
This is fun!
That Dano fuzz started getting into Boss HM-2 territory when Dan was going into Drop D riffage. Nice.
I thought about my Boss HM-2 when I heard that too! Lol!
That was a massive sound
The Argo from Mythos Pedals is AMAZING!!! Could not resist to buy it... sounds beyond my expectations.
My first octave fuzz, and only one ‘til recently, was a Prescription Electronics Experience. It’s basically a Foxx Tone Machine clone with a Swell option that takes you into bizarro territory. Lotsa fun! I think it preceded the COB. I’ve added a Supreme to the mix now, also much fun.
Thanks guys. I'm now starting a Blackadder marathon. You gave me a cunning plan.
Oh damn, this could've been the episode with the mxr blue box smoothly sneaked in. Bad timing. And after watching the episode until the end... You actually bought it as well Dan! Me too! What a weird coincidence with the videos etc.
Whole Stoner Rock genre needs to be mentioned here. Some Fu Manchu riffs should be there when the Super Fuzz is on :D
Since it wasn't really mentioned in the episode, the Pedal Pawn Fuzz is supposed to be the silicon Diaz Texas Square Face thing, Cesar Diaz' Fuzz Face mod for SRV. Homestead Amps, who carry on the Diaz brand in a sense, make a Germanium version called the Preacher. 🤟
MetalThrashingMatt I hope pedal pawn get a stand alone play soon. Their fuzz and Texas twang are incredible - especially on the clean up
I have an old Square Face built by Cesar Diaz. It’s killer.
@@edphaze6550 I'm jealous. I'd love to track one down someday.
Hearing Dan playing Outshined has made my week!
Love the octave down fuzz-the honey badger sounded great. Great job guys!
Lots of cool effects! One unique pedal to add to this mix is the Foxrox Octron. All analog octave above and below with full mix control of both and dry signal.
Hi. Thanks for the recommendation on that Eric Gale's album! Listing to it now!
...and they had a horrific headache a week after.
And there was much joy. Fuzzy joy.
I like the new Danelectro pedals. At first I assumed they were simply more of their super cheap line, but they're more high end, and wasI very pleasantly surprised! The Roebuck is a really great fuzz! And this octave one is cool too!
Great vid gents! Love me some octave fuzz. My weapon of choice is the Ibanez Standard Fuzz but I'm thinking I need the Argo after watching this.
Loved Dan's explanation of how that Honey Badger pedal works, "they way it works is they put the thang down, flip it and reverse it."
I love that Supreme! I'm sure Mick's right about sitting in the mix, but in isolation it sounds great.
Great video! I Love Octave/Fuzz. For the longest time those duties have been performed by my trusty Fulltone Ultimate Octave.
Octafuzz is my favourite effect. Thanks for doing this episode, cheers!
LOL! You should have seen the look on my cat's face when you hit the first chord with the 3699 on the play out.
Hi guys, I just got a D&M drive, and schwanging never felt so good!!! If only there was a D&M fuzz...
Oooooooh, interesting.
Absolutely a ginormous idea!! You so need to do it!!
Just make sure it is as tasty as the Pigdog London fuzzes. Do not go mildly on Fuzz pedals, i hope Dan makes a beast fuzz for rhythm and lead explosions. Go all the Fuzz way or dont even build another pale pedal.
I second the motion. Matter of fact a full line of D&M pedals would be sweet. Fuzz, delay/reverb, modulation...
108 fuzz face on one side and some kind of tone bender variant on the other.....
I think we need a updated phaser exclusive video there's been years since the last one, would love it
Great episode though I wish it could have been longer as well. I've found I really love the sound of the Super Fuzz type, but that Mythos Argo is magnificent. I have a Z Vex Fuzz Factory and there are octave fuzz tones in there, if you can find them and the temperature is reasonably stable. I have an Earthquaker Pitch Bay (now discontinued) which is a bit POG-like and a bit Whammy-like though definitely it's own thing. I set it to blend a 5th up, an octave down, and the root, and put a fuzz or distortion before it - pretty great sound. Thanks, guys!
Always liked Joey's story about his octave fuzz ... 'Is it broken' ....'It must be broken'.... 'I'm returning this'. I dont use it, watched to learn, great episode.
If you roll off top end (tone control) , the octave pops out more, it's less hidden by harmonics. If you build you own (highly recommended adventure), you can build in a low pass filter, so you don't need to roll off the tone every time.
Jonathan Pentreath +1 have done this
The Supreme sounded killer! I think the 3699 took the show! + the POG is great. I use a pitchfork into a Big Muff deluxe and it's baddass!
45 mins of fuzz sounds like what the country needs right now man. Bravo
Little more on the obscure alternative side, but Howe Gelb used a lot of octavia style fuzz in the early Giant Sand records for screwy noise tones, and then Rowland S. Howard inspired me to get a Blue Box. The stories surrounding the feedback on the song The Friend Catcher (The Birthday Party) are worth a read.
Where’s Josh when you need him? He’s got the box!!!!!
Something I would find very interesting would be a mic pre/analog channel strip test. I've tried to get classic guitar tones - Ritchie Blackmore's Machine Head era, classic Status tones etc. I believe the mic pres and channel strips made a huge impact on the tone back in the day. Nowadays the mic pres are super clean and transparant, but that wasn't the case 40-50 years ago. Have a great weekend!
Yep, no arguments here... and then of course all the subsequent EQ and compression/limiting/mattering etc. It ended up (and continues to end up) a far cry from what’s coming out of the speaker.... super interesting topic! Edit, mastering. Sorry!
That Pedal Show Exactly. I found the isolated guitar track from Highway Star by Deep Purple. Strat->some sort of boost->AC30. The sound is huge! But it doesn’t sound like that setup. The bottom end is massive but there’s still a clear top end.
I recently bought the Honey Badger and I gotta say it's honestly one of my favourite purchases, in a while. (And I purchase more pedals than I should!) Such a sick pedal!
Love the argo and danelectro. I run my green ringer through my wet amp to layer the fuzz... RIGHTEOUSTONES🤘
Only made it 11 minutes in and now I'm listening to the Relentless album. I'll be back for the rest later, thanks
Thank you for this one-I just picked up the Solidgoldfx 76 Plus... wonderful. If you have not tried it-definitely recommend.
The all on playout was epic!
To do the POG justice, hit it with a compressor and send it into a high gain amp that can deal well with the polyphony (I like a Mesa Recto). It's absolutely MONSTROUS. Like a herd of pissed off rhinos.
Oh man. I've been wanting to try an octave fuzz for a long time now but haven't had the guts to pull the trigger on one. Never knew how to use one with my rig. This should help.
Well shit. Guess I'm ordering an Argo.
Great to finally see Pedal Pawn on the show. Look forward to seeing an episode where both fuzz and Texas twang get a stand alone play through. Best clean up in the biz imo
I just bought the Mythos Argo.....absolutely the best octave fuzz/boost I’ve ever tried!
Kenny Wayne Shepherd used an octave fuzz for the solo(s) in “Blue on Black.” Happens to be my favorite. 😎
Never a big fan of octave fuzz until you guys hit that 3699. Suddenly I saw a future where my Bass VI was destroying a great many combo amps. Shake, rattle, and roll.
Can't believe how quickly Mick answered/moved on from the question about where the '61 Strat had gone! Probably a sad departure, and I'd had my suspicions after the last several episodes without it. Although the '61 will be missed, Blue is sounding spectacular! Cheers!
Mick said it was “at home”. That can be taken two different ways 😉
@@edphaze6550 ahh fair play. First watch-thru I thought I heard him say "I sent it home" :)