I normally don’t do that, I just happen to do that this day unfortunately. Wife was sick and we have three small Kids and I was trying to get down to the street to get the trash out before they ran. I rushed the job and didn’t follow procedures. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
My son owned a 2015 F150 aluminum body truck. He was working and going to trade school full time. One Saturday morning he fell asleep at the wheel on the way to work. He ran off road and rolled his truck 3 times. All the air bags deployed, but the cab remain intact and he walked away from it with minor scratches. The truck was totaled….. let’s keep in mind Ford F-150 aluminum bodies carry a 5 star crash rating. So in my mind Ford’s design and the Lord saved my son.
Glad your son was ok… that’s a scary thing. I’m extremely nervous about my kids driving. I would venture they are one of the safest manufacturers right now. The metal is strong where it needs to be. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
Unless that walnut fell from a 100’ tree in a 50 mph wind storm I find your damage assessment to inaccurate. That is way to much damage for a 6oz. Walnut to cause a f series to dent that much
At this point I’m tired of trying to defend this, there is no benefit to me making this stuff up. For those saying no way here is where I tried to prove my case. I don’t care if you believe me or not at this point. It did happen… that’s the point, the damage to the aluminum body is worse than expected. Here is where I walked through the dents and the accident. ua-cam.com/video/wTYWxaXNs_Y/v-deo.html if this don’t convince you that’s fine however it did really happen.
Based on the height of both vehicles the tail gate did not cause the damage to the Honda. It would be more like the trailer ball receiver height that did the damage that you showed to the Honda No way could that damage to the bumper be caused by the tailgate. The damage is even below the tail light and it would have gotten broken out before the bumper. The height of the tailgate down is at least waste high. Tell us the real story. BTW your chin isn't even touching the top of the bed side. As far as the Acorn damage goes it must have falling from 300ft tall tree. With that said I don't believe anything on this post. Now for the rest of the story....
It really happened… since folks tried to say I made this up I made this video showing how I hit my car. It’s ridiculous that I had to make this video but I guess folks aren’t used to watching a channel that is 100 transparent. Proof my F250 damage was not faked… ua-cam.com/video/wTYWxaXNs_Y/v-deo.html
It did… that’s the point, the damage to the aluminum body is worse than expected. Here is where I walked through the dents and the accident. ua-cam.com/video/wTYWxaXNs_Y/v-deo.html if this don’t convince you that’s fine however it did really happen.
@@pwilki8631 wow that’s crazy! But I believe it! When that nut hit my roof it made the most horrific sound I have ever heard. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
The acorn roof thing is unfathomable, I really can’t believe that happened-good point. As for the tailgate, that’s quite a fair amount of damage, though I’d say it ultimately falls on you and your carelessness. My only real complaint for these trucks is the extremely thin paint, making it very susceptible to the outside elements. I have a really bad scratch on the 19 that shows the actual aluminum, as if you cut open a beer can. It’s pretty tiny but very noticeable. The hood also has a few minor dings and scratches. A little disappointed in how the bodies hold up to normal wear and tear. No matter how cautious you are with these super dutys, their bodies are weaker, truthfully.
Of course it’s my fault, I had a lapse in judgement. I now have an ugly tailgate that will need to be completely replaced to repair. All three bodyshops that I took it to agreed that it could not be repaired and would need to be replaced. Your issue is my very point. It’s a little disappointing how easy the bodies can be damaged. That goes from paint to the metal itself. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
First generation of the aluminum body so I would expect some issues. Considering the amount that Ford has sold compared to issues, I would say they have done pretty good.
I agree… I’m not hating, you know I’m a Ford guy. I was disappointed in the tailgate though. The red f150 got dinged in the hood by an acorn too. I cried a little and then got over it haha. I hope all is well with you bro! Happy New year!
@@theoverdriveconsumerchanne4424 I know your not. We work hard and pay good hard earned money. Nothing wrong with wanting Ford to do better. Happy new year bro!!
My 2020 went through a hail storm with no damage. Had to replace the shingles on my home. Not sure what happened to your truck. The tailgate is crazy. That will be a $4,000 job.
Wow! Glad to hear that… maybe mine was shear bad luck… I’m going to get a couple quotes Friday! Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
Had a dent on a 2014 f150 from a rock bouncing on the highway, it can happen to steel bodies too. There is nothing to suggest damage won’t happen either way.
We are extremely over regulated in our country… don’t get me started haha. Poor diesel trucks are smothered down so much it’s no wonder any of them function. Another reason I didn’t get a diesel.
The 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks aren’t covered by federal safety/ federal emissions ford just wants to have the best of both world when you buy a hd truck because they know their market
Thanks for taking the time to comment. Actually all vehicles commercial or not have to follow the Clean Air Act. All new Diesel engines are highly regulated.
Get a really BIG pair of pliers. Wrap that tail gate with layers of tape to protect paint. Squeeze that tail gate back into place. Won't even notice it anymore
As for the tailgate, you defeated the use of the back-up camera by having it down. Even with my truck with the gate down (no BU cam or sensors), I’ve never backed into anything in 22 years. Maybe you should have the nuts harvested regularly? Or have the trees topped lol.
I agree there are pros and cons to everything and this is no exception. However I was just surprised how much more easier it was to dent. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
Can’t comment on the walnut but I have a 2015 F-150 the first year they went to aluminum. We have 100 year old oak trees and the acorns that fall have never dented my truck. It was also parked outside during a nasty hailstorm and not a single dent.
First point: there is no such thing as military grade aluminum . All armored hum v’s are a type of steel . Anything in the military that is made to be real strong is steel . So it’s just a gimmick that a company uses to cover for the cheap material.
I had a brand new 1985 Ford F150 that I parked under an Oak tree with acorns. The acorns dinted the hood and cab roof. So it happens with a steel body too
I already suspected the aluminum body won't be as tough as steel but I'm buying one anyway , It's about 800 pounds lighter,and I'm going to see how long I can go before I ding it all up!
I’m right there with you… this is my fourth aluminum truck and this is the first I’ve seen it being a disadvantage. I’d do it again tomorrow but I have to be honest I was a little disappointed. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
I mean I didn’t measure them or anything. The dent on the hood is pretty small but the dent on the roof has some size. Keep in mind it may look larger on video than it is. But I did witness both incidents maybe I just have some really bad luck or they hit just right? But it really happened. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
@@theoverdriveconsumerchanne4424 Thanks for sharing. The roof dent looked like tennis ball size which is massive if caused by a tree nut. I'm sure there are current and potential Ford truck owners that finds this video informative. Have you been able to get these two dents fixed? Looks like they should pop right back out if you hire someone to do a paintless dent repair.
@@LWRC to be honest the roof dent doesn’t bother me as much as the hood dent because I see it everyday. The hood dent should be easy however the roof may be tricky since it’s on a crease. At this time I don’t plan on having any of them repaired. I may get a quote though just to see what the repair cost would be.
@@theoverdriveconsumerchanne4424 So sorry to see this happen. These folks who have the skills for paintless repairs sometimes can do wonders even on a seam. Also, a body shop may be able to repair your tailgate. Some have been able to straighten frames of vehicles that have gone through crashes so your tailgate should be a bit easier.
Nice truck! Not sure what your point is exactly, other than the first few dents make you sick on a new truck. I've owned cars since the 1960's and familiar with even older cars. Nothing on the market is as tough as they were of old. Every decade brought thinner materials and more engineering to maintain overall strength. Nevertheless with each succession of trying to make vehicles lighter to improve mileage we lost durability, especially on the exterior skin and the strength of the bumpers. You used to be able to lay on the hood of a car two abreast and watch a movie at the drive in theater with no issues. Try that on any car or truck post 1995 or so and you will fold the hood into the engine with just one person sitting up there. I have a steel 2005 F150, not a work truck, just daily driver, with more dings and dents all over it than I can count. It's never been in an accident and never been parked under a nut tree that I know of. Doors, hood and roof have all got minor dents and dings. That truck is also beginning to rust through in just about every panel. That won't be a problem, dents or not, with my new aluminum body F350 Tremor.
The point was this beast of a truck couldn’t handle a less than 2 mph collision with a plastic bumper. It shocked me. We were sold by Ford and their dealers that the new trucks are tough… as a matter of fact we see that every time we crank our trucks. Yes I made a mistake and yes it’s my fault but would not have imagined this much damage. That’s the point of the video. I appreciate you taking the time to comment and for watching!
So true..we used to climb all over the grown ups cars and trucks as kids....I wouldn't dare let a kid climb on my roof or hood of my truck now,it couldn't handle it 🤣😲
Older cars and trucks were certainly made of heavier materials, and less prone to damage from a light breeze like they are today. However, they were less reliable and didn't last as long (engine and tranny generally) as more modern vehicles. An old square body Chevy or F-100 with 100k miles was long in the tooth... nowadays, a Silverado or F-150 that doesn't give you 250k miles is either a lemon, poorly maintained, or severely abused. Modern engine design, while complicated, gives us more longevity, power, and economy. Modern metal plating technology keeps rust at bay much better than just 30 years ago. While modern paint doesn't have the luster that 50's and 60's era cars had, the components in new paint and clear coats will last decades longer with minimal care. Modern interiors are infinitely more comfortable places to be, and properly cared for, will last just as long. And this is not even mentioning safety design and features. I contend that the biggest drawback in modern vehicles is the overly complicated nature of all the electronics and emissions shit, which are the their biggest blessing and curse. If your electrics start to fail these days, you are screwed, even if your 5 year old vehicle only has 10k miles and is pristine.
2021 7.3 Godzilla…front crank seal oil leak at 16,000 miles. Went from being slightly moist to spewing oil in less than one hour of driving. Called around to find a dealer to fix it and was told it’s a “common issue”. Look around under your engine, gentleman! I also own a 2019 Transit 150 and the steel bodies aren’t any more durable than these aluminum ones. Everything is thin these days.
Thanks for sharing. Having been in the Navy for 20ys and still working in the marine industry, I’ll still happily take the aluminum body, lol! I’m more disappointed in the rusting chassis I’m seeing online - rust is the more insidious issue for steel IMHO. I may be wrong but the body is more cosmetic than structural, so I can live with dents (I have a minivan now- it’s a fact of life, haha). But rust on the structure is what makes me worried for long-term strength.
From what I've read, I believe the "military grade" is 100% marketing crap. I still like Ford, but there is not one just one mil spec grade aluminum. The military has all kinds of specs on all kinds of equipment. There is no generic mil spec for aluminum. For example, M4 and M16 rifles have a certain forged aluminum specification the military requires manufactures to meet. But that's for those rifles. A particular truck, boat, plane, etc. would have their own particular specs for materials, be it aluminum or whatever. And all that, doesn't even mean it's the best. It just means it's a set standard they've contracted a supplier to meet for a given product. That way the military hopefully gets the same piece of equipment, even if 5 different companies are contracted to produce it. Has little to nothing to do with top quality. Ford's use of the term for their trucks is completely misrepresented and fake. You still have a good looking truck!
You’re assessment is 100% why I wanted to make the video. Some folks don’t know… and it’s misleading in my opinion. If this video helps one person make an informed decision on a vehicle purchase it was worth getting beat up hahah. I’ve got some crap over this video.
Sorry - but I must question this one. My F150 sits lower than an F250, yet the tailgate is at least 32" off the ground. The bumper on the Honda would be 18" to 24". Unless you were at some crazy angle backing down a hill, they would not match up.
Did you not see that my truck was down a slope and the car was sitting on a raised surface? I explained that in this video. I did not make this stuff up lol. I never would have though when I made the first video I would have been called out like I have… I guess it’s just hard to believe things these days.
I wouldn’t have told people it was an acorn that caused the dent, I would have said that it was an asteroid that caused the damage, BUT I couldn’t get it fixed because I didn’t buy Asteroid Insurance!
Sorry about the damage, your calmness will get you through ... I have to laugh though - as you silently scanned between your F250 and Honda, back and forth - it reminds me of two children who did something bad and were caught in the act!
Here in Minnesota I have to put it all on the scale. Salt turned my F150 into a cheese grater. So my next one will have the Aluminum body. But then your dealing with expensive body work. I guess I will deal with that. Because that would be one area at a time. When the Salt gets your truck. It is everywhere.
Love my 2007 F-350. It’s got everything modern I like but still feels like a tough truck. When these came out I test drove one and they felt so cheap. Doors and tailgate are like foil. I haul concrete blocks and bricks in my bed. Even with a Bedliner the bed would be dented all to hell. I’m going to buy another 2006 or 07 and restore it.
im at that delimma currently....... my wife thinks a new truck will be better guess im gonna try it. picking up a 2019 F250 today. Doubt itll do any better than my 2005 F250 both diesel.
It sucks that that happened, no matter HOW you slice it. BUT, I'm on my 3rd aluminum body Super Duty (2017 F-250 XLT, 2019 F-250 XLT Premium Trim Level and now my 2020 F-350 Lariat 7.3L Godzilla (traded in my 2019 F-250 to get the new 2020 Godzilla motor) and knock on the proverbial wood but, not one issue with my bodies. Nor with my paint. I suppose if I drive my truck into a large, solid, old oak tree, I'll wind up with some damage to the body, aluminum or not. The trick here is to try NOT to drive into (or back into) another large, solid object with your new aluminum body Super Duty. As for the walnut on the roof AND ESPECIALLY the acorn on the hood, I can't believe they would do that kind of damage simply by dropping from a tree. It's your truck. I wasn't there. I don't know. But it's hard to believe an ACORN would do that. If this IS the case, as you say it is, the junk yards and scrape yards all across America must be bursting at the seams with scraped 2017 and up Super Duty pickup trucks from tree nut damage AND from hail damage. If an ACORN can do THAT damage, what would a 1" hailstone do falling from thousands of feet up?? That damage sucks. I admit it. But fortunately I have not had ANY kind of damage to my aluminum bodies NOR to the paint on my many Super Duty pickup trucks. Good luck with it. I hope you are able to at least get the tailgate issue rectified.
Thanks for taking time to comment and for watching! Couple things… how do you like the 7.3 so far? I am having the tailgate replaced and I will be doing some testing with the old tailgate for you alls viewing pleasure. I had an acorn hit my 2020 f150 and it did the same thing to the hood… I agree it’s extreme for a little nut.
@@theoverdriveconsumerchanne4424 I'll tell you, makes you wonder how in hell Ford could design/build/sell aluminum body vehicles, by the millions mind you, if they are going to be damaged, while merely parked in your driveway and hit by a leaf falling out of a nearby tree. A lot of this had to do with the US Government and their requirements to lower the weight of vehicles, in an attempt to get better gas mileage and thus, lower emissions. I forget the actual specifics now but Ford stepped up to the plate first by building the first aluminum body trucks (the F-150, in 2015, I think it was) followed by the Super Duty pickup trucks for 2017. I don't know what Chrysler/Fiat/Dodge/Ram is doing in this area but GM started using aluminum at least to some degree in their truck bodies too. So, at the end of the day, is it a GOOD thing or a BAD thing, to go aluminum? Open to debate, I guess. But either way, at least in the pickup truck world, I felt that eventually everyone would be going over to aluminum, at least to some degree to raise fuel economy and thus, lower emissions, per the US Government. (Actually, I think this was originally supposed to be accomplished by the year 2025. But now, who the hell knows, right, with the world AND with the US so screwed up now. I don't know where we stand in regards to this now). But I guess, with these aluminum body trucks, it's a GOOD thing as long as nothing bad happens. If it does, then it's NOT a good thing. I've owned 3 of these aluminum body Super Duty trucks now and as I mentioned, nothing bad has happened, to any of them and I hope it stays that way. I'm in the northeast here and practically every week we have severe storms moving in whereby the National Weather Service's bulletins state "Expect hail damage to vehicles", etc, etc. So now, if an ACORN is damaging these trucks, what in hell is a hail storm going to do? Are we supposed to move our new $65000.00 trucks into the living room until the storm passes? Like many, I don't have a garage to hide my truck inside during storms. It's outside, uncovered, year round. I guess we just cross fingers and hope for the best because ... As for my 2020 F-350 Lariat with the ne 7.3L Godzilla motor and 10speed trans, it's the best truck I have owned so far and I've owned 4 Super Duty pickups including my 2010 F-250 XLT (all bought brand new). My 2010 F-250 had the 5.4L 330CI small block motor and 5 speed automatic. Too little power in those trucks with only 300HP and 365 LBS feet of torque. Moved to the 2017 F-250 XLT with the 6.2L 379CI motor rated at 385HP and 415 LBS feet of torque (I think they were then) and 6 speed. Then I traded for the 2019 F-250 XLT Premium trim level with the 6.2L with 385HP and 430 LBS feet of torque. But after reading about and watching every video I found on the new 2020 7.3L Godzilla gas motor (and 10 speed) I had to have it. So after searching the ENTIRE Connecticut Ford inventory for 8 months, I found this 2020 F-350 Lariat (Blue Jeans Metallic) Super Cab and not one regret! 7.3L. 445CI. 430HP. And 475 LBS feet of torque. Conventional push rod motor like the good old days of our late '60's/early '70's American muscle cars. No overhead cam stuff going on here. 6-bolt main bearing caps. Piston cooling jets. Motor is built to last. Love this truck! Love this motor! Love the 10 speed automatic! I just had www.BilletBadges.com custom make me 3 billet aluminum badges measuring 1.5" by 10.75" and reading "7.3L Godzilla" which I installed on my tailgate (lower right corner) and one each on the driver's door and the passenger door, down low where the "Powerstroke" diesel badge would be on the diesel truck's doors. Already getting compliments on them. Bottom line on the 7.3L Godzilla gas motor, not one single second of regrets on trading in my 2019 F-250 6.2L for this beast. Good luck with yours and I'm glad to hear you are at least getting the tailgate issue resolved.
I punched a hole in my tailgate here in 🇨🇦. My fault. Body shop that’s known to not be cheap (as in very good) replaced with new tailgate after removing hardware from old tailgate (including step hardware) $1500 taxes included. That’s including paint.
Imagine my chagrin when my Chevy Trax got a nice little dent in her when a god damnd Mercedes Benz C-Class driver decided to try to get in my lane when not checking to see.
Maybe it the luck of the draw, but my 20 F250 has taken some walnuts at the campground with no issues. It’s black and black shows everything. I think the squirrels do it intentionally.
I’m not sure if me driving had anything to do with it but one sure got me. It sounded horrible. It did crack the nut too. Half of it was in the bed. I hope you continue to have success with them.
Too bad the big three won't make us a body out of stainless steel like TESLA. That's one of the reason I want a cyber truck. Won't dent, won't rust, no peeling or oxidized paint. The only problem is they don't have engines in them.
Who knows what the future holds… if the cyber truck makes an impact on the market auto makers could turn to that technology for future vehicles… thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
AS SOMEONE SAID BEFORE, YOU HAVE A BACKUP CAMERA, USE IT, AND LEAVE YOUR TAILGATE UP WHEN BACKING.MY F-350 HAS 6 CAMERA'S I USE THEM ALL. HAVING A TRUCK THATS 23 FEET LONG YOU DRIVE IT AND PARK IT DIFFERENTLY.
Lol not everyone has six cameras… had I, I would not hit my car. A simple fix would have been just have my tailgate up and we wouldn’t be conversing. However that’s not what happened and now I’ve got an expensive tailgate to fix. On a bright side though I learned a lesson and I had the privilege to speak to you. For me that’s a win. Thank you for taking the time to comment and for watching!
Thank you for have the between the legs to do a video on this. My 2000 F-250 has been hit on roof with in my Humble opinion a heavyer item than a walnut. Left no dent. I have slide into side of house with slick snow/ ice and it was about $2000 to get out dent and repaint. Left the little paint rub on canapy to watch side of bed to see if repair area stays invisible. I will know were scratch to bed like your bumper was. I think if your hitch had hit your car, there would be lot of damage to car verses the truck damage. For what you payed for your F-250 you would think that would hold up better. Not leave a big dent. I watched another video, and a 60 thousand dollar GM truck, the guy putting out video could just scrap off undercarriage protection with his fingernails. He was pissed they did not put a better harder sealing under body coating on, especially when I have seen videos of a like 4 or 5 year old truck that with the bulk SALT they put on roadways with sand, it just rots/ rusts BAD the whole undercarriage. The guy showed the trucks underside completely corroded out badly all over. The video'er said it would take a frame off to repair it right. To save the truck. The owner had taken great care of outer body looked very clean. It had Low miles on truck, it looked Sharp from outside. Yet whole and I mean whole undercarriage was very badly corroded. For what you pay for today's modern pickup what they call heavy duty/super duty WORK trucks. It's sad that a small NUT can do that much of a dent.
I’d rather have dents than rust. I live in the rust belt and it’s the only reason it’s necessary to replace my vehicles. By your accent it sounds like you live in the south. I purchased a 2017 f150 just for that reason! My last one is a 2008 and has rust everywhere!!!! Steel is very very strong but also heavy. I just restored a Saab 92x and the rust cost me 10 grand to fix! It’s got to be stainless steel or aluminum for me.
I don’t blame you! I agree, not having to worry about rust is huge for you all up there (yes I’m in the south ha, 10% chance of snow we are shutting down!) thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
You got to allow yourself an extra 3 to 4 ft with tailgate down that's what I do with my Ford F-150 never had a problem and years 20 years and I always shut it lock it when I using that could happen to any truck if you leave your tailgate down
This was a result of several mistakes… I normally don’t drive with the tailgate down and I normally don’t park my car there. Everything lined up just right for an accident and now I have two damaged vehicles. I learned a lesson and moved on.
@@rb7685 ua-cam.com/video/oDQZu8K51ZY/v-deo.html if you did this to a steel truck it’d cave in more and more each time. Everyone will be aluminum before long…. Most manufacturers already have aluminum hoods and doors.
I love my F-150, but my buddy is a paintless dent repair guy, and this isn’t uncommon unfortunately. A large object like a sledgehammer or basketball hitting the bed side, or door won’t leave as bad a dent as steel, but a pebble from the road, or in this case a nut falling from a tree will dent like crazy.
Plastic, if not shattered, can oten rebound with meomory. Metal does not. My daughter's Tacoma did the same thing when she backed into a tree. It happens. Those "nut wounds" are annother matter altogether.
Not to be a pain, but I’m not buying any of this. First of all you’re comparing a rigid surface on the Ford to the impact bumper on a Honda. The tailgate was never intended to take an impact while the Honda bumper was so it’s a really bad comparison.. Second I’ve parked my ‘17 F150 under a pecan tree for five years and been hit with hundreds of pecans and there are no dents in my truck. I seriously doubt those nuts caused that damage. It was probably already there from something else and was incorrectly associated with the nuts.
Great assessment from someone behind a computer screen. I’m tired of defending myself. I provided an additional video to help explain the dents (I witnessed) believe what you want… I don’t care anymore. The fact is (depending on the object and the circumstances) our aluminum trucks are susceptible to damage that where a steel body wouldn’t flinch.
That’s not fords fault, that’s your fault. When I backed into a brick mailbox I didn’t blame Ford I blamed my dumbass. I’ve owned 4 of these trucks and had acorns, and rocks come up off the road none of this ever happened, I call BS on where you got the dings.
It did in fact happen… for people like you, that for reason, don’t believe me (not sure why I would make this stuff up) I made this video. If that doesn’t convince you, sorry… but it is what it is. ua-cam.com/video/wTYWxaXNs_Y/v-deo.html
You should do a drop test on the roof. That’s why you have insurance. I have a 100 deductible for that kind of damage. Not sure I can believe a acorn did that. A black walnut on the husk maybe.
Some lady hit the fender on my 2020 ranger with her door, hard enough to shake my truck . And literally no dent at all . just the paint of my truck was chipped away , but oh boy, her door was messed up real bad . Now I know why most people prefer a steel body vs aluminum .
Honestly I think it’s hit or miss on wether you’ll get damage with the aluminum. In addition, I think the aluminum is stronger in some places than others. For example the side panels should be stronger than the tell gate. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
When there saying military-grade they're basically referring to the aluminum that was made the frame not the trucks skin,,, just look where you're going when you back up
Actually the military grade aluminum is in fact referring to the aluminum body not the frame. The frame is steel. I did look while I was backing up however the car was in a blind spot. Had I had the tailgate up I would have saw the car… definitely a contributing factor to the accident.
I see a bunch of brand new take off beds and tailgates on marketplace and craigslist for sale. Beds are normal $500 to $1000 and tailgates are $200 to $400. 90% of them are white so you'll have to paint it but a lot cheaper than eBay. I'm from the Carolina's so take that into consideration if you have to travel to get it or have it shipped.
That dent in the roof and hood is no way from a fucin' nut. I dropped my drill on my roof it slide down and bounced off the roof of my 250 and not even a scratch. Try tellin' the TRUTH bud.
It’s the first time I have used my tailgate in this manner, I don’t recommend it. To fix it, the tailgate has to be replaced per the body shops I’ve talked to. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
Well when you hit the corner of another bumber. Normally the corner wins. Strength of the bumper is at the mounting points or the corners. Like the elbow and knees.
God forbid a grizzly attacks the truck with you in it. The lighter body has its challenges, but it increases fuel efficiency, weight to power ratio, and payload capacity.
Yes, that would be scary…. There are definitely pros to the lighter material. Not sure if there is enough for the “fuel efficiency” we are only talking a couple hundred pounds of savings. But yes payload, weight to power yes, 🙌🏻.
Just curious why you're on your fourth aluminum body f series.. And to all you guys that think the aluminum body truck is a good idea my buddy is a body technician and has worked on many of those trucks he said they're garbage they're expensive to fix and it's a very bad idea...
I'm not sure what fell on your roof but I'm sure it wasn't a walnut. I dropped a 2x6x8' long on the front of my truck. The only damage it did was a very small dent. Hardly noticeable it I didn't point it out.
We aren’t comparing the same things. A 2x6 isn’t the same as a nut falling from 40’. For the record, as I have be en saying from the beginning, it was in fact a nut. It split in half and half was in the bed. I was in the truck when it fell and as you can imagine it was extremely loud.
if you pull the rear bumper cover off the honda you will see there are several steel pannels welded togather on the corner inside of the tail light.these combination of welded pannels is most definately stronger than a steel tailgate.the aluminum didnt stand a chance.look out your bed when backing up with tailgate down so you can see when your going to hit something with it.simple solution for future referance.
Great information on the Honda… not sure if you have been in a newer f250 but you can’t just look out back… there are many blind spots on the truck especially the way the car was parked. I did learn a lesson though. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
Heck ive owned several ford cars and trucks never had a piece of mail stating they had a recall aint owned my dodge six months and got a recall on passenger side airbag i aint even the first owner
What I hate the most about ford is those stupid door window openings how they're sloped. I like resting my arm on the door with the window open but like that you can't it's just stupid
I do not specifically disagree with your comment. However, there is an upside to the Ford truck front doors. First, a smidge more visibility. Second, the ergonomics of the interior panel have been superior to GM and Dodge (Ram) since the introduction of the 1999 Super Duty trucks. The design of the Ford front door interior panel offers a very wide and comfortable spot to place the left arm for drivers and the right arm for passengers.
Glad you see it's all on good fun 👍 I feel your pain tho totally sucks Old neighbor's of mine husband and wife. The wife rear-ended the husband while driving and did a pretty good bit of damage to both vehicles... Hope that can give you a laugh. The first dents/scratches in any new vehicle suck... But now it's a "real" truck 😎 Thanks for the video
That's why they call it a tailgate, not a bumper. Due to owner stupidity, I have managed to mangle two steel tailgates on a 2015 Superduty. They are not designed for impact. Particularly with a 9,000 truck causing the impact. Don't care what they are made out of. Yah, the aluminium bodies have been so bad that Ford still out sells every other pickup on the market, for the last 40 years. Consumers aren't stupid, if the aluminum pickups were terrible it wouldn't take long before their sales dryed up and they would be forced to change. Don't buy for s second a walnut did that bed damage, that's as bad as the damage in the faked commercial Chevy did with the tool box to make the F150 bed look bad when it first came out. Sorry you damaged your truck and yes, it's going to be expensive to fix.
@@theoverdriveconsumerchanne4424 just sayin', you know what they say, opinions are like a--holes, everybody has one. One isn't really any better than the other. Just different. Have a nice day.
Can only imagine being in a small hail storm while going down the highway. Maybe I'll just drive my f150 on sundays on sunny days. It's still so much fun to drive!
I’m not sure why, we got hit my a hail storm, my wife’s CRV was dented every up facing panel, but my 2017 F150 didn’t have any damage, they were parked side by side, my theory is the F150 aluminum was able to bounce the hail stone off better, these looked to be the size of a nickel.
DUDE was that walnut fired from a military squirrel's AR style potato gun??? I had a 2017 f150 and now a 2020 f150 and I haven't had any issues with dents... i backed into my 20ft car trailer with my tailgate down and all it did was crack the plastic guard... somethin' fishy... Feed your squirrels and maybe they'll stop shooting at ya! Lol
I have a brand new F150 and my front fender dented in two places from leaning on it when i was putting in my cold air intake. I have done this on many other vehicles and I am shocked and pissed off it would dent that easy.
I agree with what you’re saying. The point is I barely hit my car. Whether or not it was designed to bump anything it still should not have caved in IMO.
hate to tell you that it dont matter what the tailgate is made from, all of them are weak crap when hit on the top. Vehicles are made to be disposable. You have to treat them likewise.
All vehicles with Aluminum panel's will be like this EPA wants better gas mileage, trucks have to become lighter... If you had just closed your tail gate, this video wouldn't be here...
I think it is good from time to time for manufacturers to be challenged to create new and improved products. The EcoBoost being one of them… aluminum bodies allowing for huge payload numbers for trucks etc. I’m not hating, I’m just a little surprised and disappointed at the outcome. I have no one to blame but myself, I just took a shortcut and now I’m paying. But hey, had I not crushed my tailgate, I wouldn’t have made this video and which would have resulted in me not talking to you. So Paul, I’m thankful for the lesson and the opportunity to speak with you! Happy New Year!
your insurance will cover the damage to your truck and your car. You'll only be responsible for the deductible on the truck. The Accord is the claimant vehicle in this incident. I'm a licensed claims adjuster and appraiser.
I call B S!!!! Several acorns have hit my truck from at least 15 - 20ft, NO DAMAGE! Lol! I don't know how far that acorn fell, 40 -50ft? How far the walnut fell? But I don't see this much damage from a walnut falling on a truck, much less a freaking acorn lmao-lol-lol! Is that Honda jacked up? I don't see how a tailgate even lines up with underneath the taillight on a Honda car? Questionable to say the least!
Believe what you want… just because it hasn’t happened to you doesn’t mean it can’t happen. Regarding the tailgate and Honda alignment I made this video because people were freaking out… I mean I didn’t make this stuff up… I have a life. Proof my F250 damage was not faked… ua-cam.com/video/wTYWxaXNs_Y/v-deo.html
I hate those black walnut trees! Had a walnut fall from one at my old house and crack the faux-hood scoop on my 2004 Mustang. For those that don’t know how heavy they are, think about the size of a racquetball and heavier that a baseball.
My 2019 F250 Lariat was hit by hail and didn't have anything close to that dent you have from a falling acorn that must have been a mature tree with big ol nuts. The crash is totally on you and I would not expect a tailgate to hold up with the weight of that truck pushing it into an object, it if twas the bumper then it would be different. My new 2021 F150 Lariat Powerboost did get a small ding from a rock by the headlight, it seems to me that the Windshield seems to get chips way faster than my 250 did. Anyway, it sucks for you, as that is a great looking truck. Are they going to fix or replace the tailgate?
Yea it’s crazy… bad luck I guess regarding the acorn. I was walking to the truck after moving a couple kids toys and the tree just dropped one on it. I haven’t decided if I’m going to get insurance to fix it or not. I may because it really bothers me haha.
Don't back with the tailgate down. Problem solved.
I normally don’t do that, I just happen to do that this day unfortunately. Wife was sick and we have three small Kids and I was trying to get down to the street to get the trash out before they ran. I rushed the job and didn’t follow procedures. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
I did learn a lesson….
Or maybe ford could stop making cheap junk and make something stronger
Or better yet don’t run into other objects with your tailgate down
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My son owned a 2015 F150 aluminum body truck. He was working and going to trade school full time. One Saturday morning he fell asleep at the wheel on the way to work. He ran off road and rolled his truck 3 times. All the air bags deployed, but the cab remain intact and he walked away from it with minor scratches. The truck was totaled….. let’s keep in mind Ford F-150 aluminum bodies carry a 5 star crash rating. So in my mind Ford’s design and the Lord saved my son.
Glad your son was ok… that’s a scary thing. I’m extremely nervous about my kids driving. I would venture they are one of the safest manufacturers right now. The metal is strong where it needs to be. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
Right on brother!
@@trishaleaver3581 thank you!
God Bless You and your Son I’m Happy He’s Ok and Doing will I’m a firm F1 50 Lover
I'm glad your son is ok. Every airplane and semi truck is built from the same thing.
Unless that walnut fell from a 100’ tree in a 50 mph wind storm I find your damage assessment to inaccurate. That is way to much damage for a 6oz. Walnut to cause a f series to dent that much
At this point I’m tired of trying to defend this, there is no benefit to me making this stuff up. For those saying no way here is where I tried to prove my case. I don’t care if you believe me or not at this point.
It did happen… that’s the point, the damage to the aluminum body is worse than expected. Here is where I walked through the dents and the accident. ua-cam.com/video/wTYWxaXNs_Y/v-deo.html if this don’t convince you that’s fine however it did really happen.
Based on the height of both vehicles the tail gate did not cause the damage to the Honda. It would be more like the trailer ball receiver height that did the damage that you showed to the Honda No way could that damage to the bumper be caused by the tailgate. The damage is even below the tail light and it would have gotten broken out before the bumper. The height of the tailgate down is at least waste high. Tell us the real story. BTW your chin isn't even touching the top of the bed side. As far as the Acorn damage goes it must have falling from 300ft tall tree. With that said I don't believe anything on this post. Now for the rest of the story....
It really happened… since folks tried to say I made this up I made this video showing how I hit my car. It’s ridiculous that I had to make this video but I guess folks aren’t used to watching a channel that is 100 transparent. Proof my F250 damage was not faked…
ua-cam.com/video/wTYWxaXNs_Y/v-deo.html
There is no way a falling walnut did that much damage! Yes don’t back up with tailgate down or look better
It did… that’s the point, the damage to the aluminum body is worse than expected. Here is where I walked through the dents and the accident. ua-cam.com/video/wTYWxaXNs_Y/v-deo.html if this don’t convince you that’s fine however it did really happen.
I've had a walnut destroy my windshield.
@@pwilki8631 wow that’s crazy! But I believe it! When that nut hit my roof it made the most horrific sound I have ever heard. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
So you have never had a walnut fall on you or your car
@@mikegrendel9126 negative, not till now. I normally park on a carport.
The acorn roof thing is unfathomable, I really can’t believe that happened-good point. As for the tailgate, that’s quite a fair amount of damage, though I’d say it ultimately falls on you and your carelessness. My only real complaint for these trucks is the extremely thin paint, making it very susceptible to the outside elements. I have a really bad scratch on the 19 that shows the actual aluminum, as if you cut open a beer can. It’s pretty tiny but very noticeable. The hood also has a few minor dings and scratches. A little disappointed in how the bodies hold up to normal wear and tear. No matter how cautious you are with these super dutys, their bodies are weaker, truthfully.
Of course it’s my fault, I had a lapse in judgement. I now have an ugly tailgate that will need to be completely replaced to repair. All three bodyshops that I took it to agreed that it could not be repaired and would need to be replaced. Your issue is my very point. It’s a little disappointing how easy the bodies can be damaged. That goes from paint to the metal itself. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
First generation of the aluminum body so I would expect some issues. Considering the amount that Ford has sold compared to issues, I would say they have done pretty good.
I agree… I’m not hating, you know I’m a Ford guy. I was disappointed in the tailgate though. The red f150 got dinged in the hood by an acorn too. I cried a little and then got over it haha. I hope all is well with you bro! Happy New year!
@@theoverdriveconsumerchanne4424 I know your not. We work hard and pay good hard earned money. Nothing wrong with wanting Ford to do better. Happy new year bro!!
its not the first generation. And you hit a car with a tailgate. Even steel tailgate takes lots of damage. basic physics.
My 2020 went through a hail storm with no damage. Had to replace the shingles on my home. Not sure what happened to your truck. The tailgate is crazy. That will be a $4,000 job.
Wow! Glad to hear that… maybe mine was shear bad luck… I’m going to get a couple quotes Friday! Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
Had a dent on a 2014 f150 from a rock bouncing on the highway, it can happen to steel bodies too. There is nothing to suggest damage won’t happen either way.
You’re right… thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
That's because aluminum bends and stays in that shape where the Honda is a plastic bumper plastic flexes and Bounces back like rubber.
A little bad on Ford, but I blame the EPA for stretching the standards beyond functional.
We are extremely over regulated in our country… don’t get me started haha. Poor diesel trucks are smothered down so much it’s no wonder any of them function. Another reason I didn’t get a diesel.
The 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks aren’t covered by federal safety/ federal emissions ford just wants to have the best of both world when you buy a hd truck because they know their market
They know that most are used as cars but they are just cars that can tow like 18k I think
Thanks for taking the time to comment. Actually all vehicles commercial or not have to follow the Clean Air Act. All new Diesel engines are highly regulated.
Get a really BIG pair of pliers. Wrap that tail gate with layers of tape to protect paint. Squeeze that tail gate back into place. Won't even notice it anymore
Thanks for the feedback I’ll see if that works for me!
As for the tailgate, you defeated the use of the back-up camera by having it down. Even with my truck with the gate down (no BU cam or sensors), I’ve never backed into anything in 22 years. Maybe you should have the nuts harvested regularly? Or have the trees topped lol.
The car was in a blind spot and the both trees have been cut down… One oak was headed to damage the pool too so we had them taken down.
Coming from a veteran "Military Grade" just means it was built by the lowest bidder, and is essentially crap quality in reality.
Thank you for your service! You are a 100% correct! 😂
Thank you for taking the time to comment and for watching!
Exactly 👆
They use aluminum to save like 900 pounds of weight for better gas mileage. Softer metal dents way easier
I agree there are pros and cons to everything and this is no exception. However I was just surprised how much more easier it was to dent. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
Looks like the first issue is the driver. The dents are a result of material. Be careful!👍
Nailed it James!
Can’t comment on the walnut but I have a 2015 F-150 the first year they went to aluminum. We have 100 year old oak trees and the acorns that fall have never dented my truck. It was also parked outside during a nasty hailstorm and not a single dent.
That’s awesome Steve! That’s some amazing luck! I wish I had the same luck regarding this.
First point: there is no such thing as military grade aluminum . All armored hum v’s are a type of steel . Anything in the military that is made to be real strong is steel . So it’s just a gimmick that a company uses to cover for the cheap material.
Military-grade=cheapest material that gets the job done.🤝
Merica
Get you a possum to snuggle with and have mommy bring you a hot cocoa so you feel better 😂
Great idea, I’ll look into this!
It can happen to all steel trucks too
I agree, I just wasn’t prepared for that much damage from a little bump.
I had a brand new 1985 Ford F150 that I parked under an Oak tree with acorns. The acorns dinted the hood and cab roof. So it happens with a steel body too
Thanks for the feedback!
I already suspected the aluminum body won't be as tough as steel but I'm buying one anyway , It's about 800 pounds lighter,and I'm going to see how long I can go before I ding it all up!
I’m right there with you… this is my fourth aluminum truck and this is the first I’ve seen it being a disadvantage. I’d do it again tomorrow but I have to be honest I was a little disappointed. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
Those two tree nuts had to have been massive to do that kind of dammage!!!
I mean I didn’t measure them or anything. The dent on the hood is pretty small but the dent on the roof has some size. Keep in mind it may look larger on video than it is. But I did witness both incidents maybe I just have some really bad luck or they hit just right? But it really happened. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
@@theoverdriveconsumerchanne4424 Thanks for sharing. The roof dent looked like tennis ball size which is massive if caused by a tree nut. I'm sure there are current and potential Ford truck owners that finds this video informative. Have you been able to get these two dents fixed? Looks like they should pop right back out if you hire someone to do a paintless dent repair.
@@LWRC to be honest the roof dent doesn’t bother me as much as the hood dent because I see it everyday. The hood dent should be easy however the roof may be tricky since it’s on a crease. At this time I don’t plan on having any of them repaired. I may get a quote though just to see what the repair cost would be.
@@theoverdriveconsumerchanne4424 So sorry to see this happen. These folks who have the skills for paintless repairs sometimes can do wonders even on a seam. Also, a body shop may be able to repair your tailgate. Some have been able to straighten frames of vehicles that have gone through crashes so your tailgate should be a bit easier.
It doesn’t hurt to ask… Heck it might even make a good video seeing what they would charge. Thanks for the support!
I work at a large cemetery with very tall trees. Once in a while a walnut will hit the work truck with a steel body. They do leave dents!
They are fierce! Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
Nice truck! Not sure what your point is exactly, other than the first few dents make you sick on a new truck. I've owned cars since the 1960's and familiar with even older cars. Nothing on the market is as tough as they were of old. Every decade brought thinner materials and more engineering to maintain overall strength. Nevertheless with each succession of trying to make vehicles lighter to improve mileage we lost durability, especially on the exterior skin and the strength of the bumpers. You used to be able to lay on the hood of a car two abreast and watch a movie at the drive in theater with no issues. Try that on any car or truck post 1995 or so and you will fold the hood into the engine with just one person sitting up there. I have a steel 2005 F150, not a work truck, just daily driver, with more dings and dents all over it than I can count. It's never been in an accident and never been parked under a nut tree that I know of. Doors, hood and roof have all got minor dents and dings. That truck is also beginning to rust through in just about every panel. That won't be a problem, dents or not, with my new aluminum body F350 Tremor.
The point was this beast of a truck couldn’t handle a less than 2 mph collision with a plastic bumper. It shocked me. We were sold by Ford and their dealers that the new trucks are tough… as a matter of fact we see that every time we crank our trucks. Yes I made a mistake and yes it’s my fault but would not have imagined this much damage. That’s the point of the video. I appreciate you taking the time to comment and for watching!
So true..we used to climb all over the grown ups cars and trucks as kids....I wouldn't dare let a kid climb on my roof or hood of my truck now,it couldn't handle it 🤣😲
Older cars and trucks were certainly made of heavier materials, and less prone to damage from a light breeze like they are today. However, they were less reliable and didn't last as long (engine and tranny generally) as more modern vehicles. An old square body Chevy or F-100 with 100k miles was long in the tooth... nowadays, a Silverado or F-150 that doesn't give you 250k miles is either a lemon, poorly maintained, or severely abused. Modern engine design, while complicated, gives us more longevity, power, and economy. Modern metal plating technology keeps rust at bay much better than just 30 years ago. While modern paint doesn't have the luster that 50's and 60's era cars had, the components in new paint and clear coats will last decades longer with minimal care. Modern interiors are infinitely more comfortable places to be, and properly cared for, will last just as long. And this is not even mentioning safety design and features. I contend that the biggest drawback in modern vehicles is the overly complicated nature of all the electronics and emissions shit, which are the their biggest blessing and curse. If your electrics start to fail these days, you are screwed, even if your 5 year old vehicle only has 10k miles and is pristine.
2021 7.3 Godzilla…front crank seal oil leak at 16,000 miles. Went from being slightly moist to spewing oil in less than one hour of driving. Called around to find a dealer to fix it and was told it’s a “common issue”. Look around under your engine, gentleman! I also own a 2019 Transit 150 and the steel bodies aren’t any more durable than these aluminum ones. Everything is thin these days.
I hope that front crank issue is not
common! I’ve got 34k on mine🤞🏻. Thanks for taking the time to comment and always thank you for watching!
Thanks for sharing. Having been in the Navy for 20ys and still working in the marine industry, I’ll still happily take the aluminum body, lol! I’m more disappointed in the rusting chassis I’m seeing online - rust is the more insidious issue for steel IMHO. I may be wrong but the body is more cosmetic than structural, so I can live with dents (I have a minivan now- it’s a fact of life, haha). But rust on the structure is what makes me worried for long-term strength.
Thank you for your service! I had a short career in the marine industry; River boats. Thank you for taking the time to comment.
From what I've read, I believe the "military grade" is 100% marketing crap. I still like Ford, but there is not one just one mil spec grade aluminum. The military has all kinds of specs on all kinds of equipment. There is no generic mil spec for aluminum. For example, M4 and M16 rifles have a certain forged aluminum specification the military requires manufactures to meet. But that's for those rifles. A particular truck, boat, plane, etc. would have their own particular specs for materials, be it aluminum or whatever. And all that, doesn't even mean it's the best. It just means it's a set standard they've contracted a supplier to meet for a given product. That way the military hopefully gets the same piece of equipment, even if 5 different companies are contracted to produce it. Has little to nothing to do with top quality. Ford's use of the term for their trucks is completely misrepresented and fake. You still have a good looking truck!
You’re assessment is 100% why I wanted to make the video. Some folks don’t know… and it’s misleading in my opinion. If this video helps one person make an informed decision on a vehicle purchase it was worth getting beat up hahah. I’ve got some crap over this video.
Sorry - but I must question this one. My F150 sits lower than an F250, yet the tailgate is at least 32" off the ground. The bumper on the Honda would be 18" to 24". Unless you were at some crazy angle backing down a hill, they would not match up.
Did you not see that my truck was down a slope and the car was sitting on a raised surface? I explained that in this video. I did not make this stuff up lol. I never would have though when I made the first video I would have been called out like I have… I guess it’s just hard to believe things these days.
@@theoverdriveconsumerchanne4424 you fucking sped get wrecked dude lmao ! My just got you caught frauding 🤣
I wouldn’t have told people it was an acorn that caused the dent, I would have said that it was an asteroid that caused the damage, BUT I couldn’t get it fixed because I didn’t buy Asteroid Insurance!
Ah that definitely would have been a better story. I’ll do better! Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
Why would you backup with the tailgate down? Seems like you didn't check your surroundings.
I know… crazy
The bumper is designed to take a hit, not the tailgate. The dents will happen with any metal. Unless we want polymer cars we will see dents.
I was just shocked that it suffered that much damage from a light bump. I guess the 7k truck was a huge factor in that.
Sorry about the damage, your calmness will get you through ... I have to laugh though - as you silently scanned between your F250 and Honda, back and forth - it reminds me of two children who did something bad and were caught in the act!
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You should get an estimate to fix the Honda. It may have hidden damage under the bumper cover.
I have full coverage on both. I may get an estimate on it too. Thanks for recommending that!
Here in Minnesota I have to put it all on the scale.
Salt turned my F150 into a cheese grater.
So my next one will have the Aluminum body.
But then your dealing with expensive body work.
I guess I will deal with that.
Because that would be one area at a time.
When the Salt gets your truck.
It is everywhere.
Understandable… thanks for the feedback.
First off your Tailgate is highly fixable, second take the bumper and tail light off your Honda, theres probably a lot of damage behind it.
I'm gunna make sure I don't park my f250 under a walnut tree. That would be nutty!
I’ve definitely got a the nut award! Haha
Love my 2007 F-350. It’s got everything modern I like but still feels like a tough truck. When these came out I test drove one and they felt so cheap. Doors and tailgate are like foil. I haul concrete blocks and bricks in my bed. Even with a Bedliner the bed would be dented all to hell. I’m going to buy another 2006 or 07 and restore it.
im at that delimma currently....... my wife thinks a new truck will be better guess im gonna try it. picking up a 2019 F250 today. Doubt itll do any better than my 2005 F250 both diesel.
Thanks for the heads up on the damage from tree seeds. Shocking. I’d bet the roof isn’t much thinker than a beer can.
Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching.
It sucks that that happened, no matter HOW you slice it. BUT, I'm on my 3rd aluminum body Super Duty (2017 F-250 XLT, 2019 F-250 XLT Premium Trim Level and now my 2020 F-350 Lariat 7.3L Godzilla (traded in my 2019 F-250 to get the new 2020 Godzilla motor) and knock on the proverbial wood but, not one issue with my bodies. Nor with my paint. I suppose if I drive my truck into a large, solid, old oak tree, I'll wind up with some damage to the body, aluminum or not. The trick here is to try NOT to drive into (or back into) another large, solid object with your new aluminum body Super Duty.
As for the walnut on the roof AND ESPECIALLY the acorn on the hood, I can't believe they would do that kind of damage simply by dropping from a tree. It's your truck. I wasn't there. I don't know. But it's hard to believe an ACORN would do that. If this IS the case, as you say it is, the junk yards and scrape yards all across America must be bursting at the seams with scraped 2017 and up Super Duty pickup trucks from tree nut damage AND from hail damage. If an ACORN can do THAT damage, what would a 1" hailstone do falling from thousands of feet up??
That damage sucks. I admit it. But fortunately I have not had ANY kind of damage to my aluminum bodies NOR to the paint on my many Super Duty pickup trucks.
Good luck with it. I hope you are able to at least get the tailgate issue rectified.
Thanks for taking time to comment and for watching!
Couple things… how do you like the 7.3 so far?
I am having the tailgate replaced and I will be doing some testing with the old tailgate for you alls viewing pleasure. I had an acorn hit my 2020 f150 and it did the same thing to the hood… I agree it’s extreme for a little nut.
@@theoverdriveconsumerchanne4424 I'll tell you, makes you wonder how in hell Ford could design/build/sell aluminum body vehicles, by the millions mind you, if they are going to be damaged, while merely parked in your driveway and hit by a leaf falling out of a nearby tree. A lot of this had to do with the US Government and their requirements to lower the weight of vehicles, in an attempt to get better gas mileage and thus, lower emissions. I forget the actual specifics now but Ford stepped up to the plate first by building the first aluminum body trucks (the F-150, in 2015, I think it was) followed by the Super Duty pickup trucks for 2017. I don't know what Chrysler/Fiat/Dodge/Ram is doing in this area but GM started using aluminum at least to some degree in their truck bodies too. So, at the end of the day, is it a GOOD thing or a BAD thing, to go aluminum? Open to debate, I guess. But either way, at least in the pickup truck world, I felt that eventually everyone would be going over to aluminum, at least to some degree to raise fuel economy and thus, lower emissions, per the US Government. (Actually, I think this was originally supposed to be accomplished by the year 2025. But now, who the hell knows, right, with the world AND with the US so screwed up now. I don't know where we stand in regards to this now). But I guess, with these aluminum body trucks, it's a GOOD thing as long as nothing bad happens. If it does, then it's NOT a good thing. I've owned 3 of these aluminum body Super Duty trucks now and as I mentioned, nothing bad has happened, to any of them and I hope it stays that way. I'm in the northeast here and practically every week we have severe storms moving in whereby the National Weather Service's bulletins state "Expect hail damage to vehicles", etc, etc. So now, if an ACORN is damaging these trucks, what in hell is a hail storm going to do? Are we supposed to move our new $65000.00 trucks into the living room until the storm passes? Like many, I don't have a garage to hide my truck inside during storms. It's outside, uncovered, year round. I guess we just cross fingers and hope for the best because ...
As for my 2020 F-350 Lariat with the ne 7.3L Godzilla motor and 10speed trans, it's the best truck I have owned so far and I've owned 4 Super Duty pickups including my 2010 F-250 XLT (all bought brand new). My 2010 F-250 had the 5.4L 330CI small block motor and 5 speed automatic. Too little power in those trucks with only 300HP and 365 LBS feet of torque. Moved to the 2017 F-250 XLT with the 6.2L 379CI motor rated at 385HP and 415 LBS feet of torque (I think they were then) and 6 speed. Then I traded for the 2019 F-250 XLT Premium trim level with the 6.2L with 385HP and 430 LBS feet of torque. But after reading about and watching every video I found on the new 2020 7.3L Godzilla gas motor (and 10 speed) I had to have it. So after searching the ENTIRE Connecticut Ford inventory for 8 months, I found this 2020 F-350 Lariat (Blue Jeans Metallic) Super Cab and not one regret! 7.3L. 445CI. 430HP. And 475 LBS feet of torque. Conventional push rod motor like the good old days of our late '60's/early '70's American muscle cars. No overhead cam stuff going on here. 6-bolt main bearing caps. Piston cooling jets. Motor is built to last. Love this truck! Love this motor! Love the 10 speed automatic! I just had www.BilletBadges.com custom make me 3 billet aluminum badges measuring 1.5" by 10.75" and reading "7.3L Godzilla" which I installed on my tailgate (lower right corner) and one each on the driver's door and the passenger door, down low where the "Powerstroke" diesel badge would be on the diesel truck's doors. Already getting compliments on them. Bottom line on the 7.3L Godzilla gas motor, not one single second of regrets on trading in my 2019 F-250 6.2L for this beast.
Good luck with yours and I'm glad to hear you are at least getting the tailgate issue resolved.
@@Lisa4Me2 I love the power of the 7.3L too and the 10-speed definitely completes it! I would love to throw and supercharger on mine….. 🔥
I punched a hole in my tailgate here in 🇨🇦. My fault. Body shop that’s known to not be cheap (as in very good) replaced with new tailgate after removing hardware from old tailgate (including step hardware) $1500 taxes included. That’s including paint.
That’s pretty close to my estimate.
I didn’t think it was bulletproof. I have a 2021 F150 and I still love it.
I love mine too. I just wanted folks to know what could happen. I’d buy another one tomorrow.
Imagine my chagrin when my Chevy Trax got a nice little dent in her when a god damnd Mercedes Benz C-Class driver decided to try to get in my lane when not checking to see.
Wow!
The top of the tailgate is NOT built for that kind of Impact, The car's bumper is. Now back into that car with the tailgate up and see what happens.
I agree
Maybe it the luck of the draw, but my 20 F250 has taken some walnuts at the campground with no issues. It’s black and black shows everything. I think the squirrels do it intentionally.
I’m not sure if me driving had anything to do with it but one sure got me. It sounded horrible. It did crack the nut too. Half of it was in the bed. I hope you continue to have success with them.
That’s why I hunt the little tree rodents.
Too bad the big three won't make us a body out of stainless steel like TESLA. That's one of the reason I want a cyber truck. Won't dent, won't rust, no peeling or oxidized paint. The only problem is they don't have engines in them.
Who knows what the future holds… if the cyber truck makes an impact on the market auto makers could turn to that technology for future vehicles… thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
AS SOMEONE SAID BEFORE, YOU HAVE A BACKUP CAMERA, USE IT, AND LEAVE YOUR TAILGATE UP WHEN BACKING.MY F-350 HAS 6 CAMERA'S I USE THEM ALL. HAVING A TRUCK THATS 23 FEET LONG YOU DRIVE IT AND PARK IT DIFFERENTLY.
Lol not everyone has six cameras… had I, I would not hit my car. A simple fix would have been just have my tailgate up and we wouldn’t be conversing. However that’s not what happened and now I’ve got an expensive tailgate to fix. On a bright side though I learned a lesson and I had the privilege to speak to you. For me that’s a win. Thank you for taking the time to comment and for watching!
Thank you for have the between the legs to do a video on this. My 2000 F-250 has been hit on roof with in my Humble opinion a heavyer item than a walnut. Left no dent. I have slide into side of house with slick snow/ ice and it was about $2000 to get out dent and repaint. Left the little paint rub on canapy to watch side of bed to see if repair area stays invisible. I will know were scratch to bed like your bumper was. I think if your hitch had hit your car, there would be lot of damage to car verses the truck damage. For what you payed for your F-250 you would think that would hold up better. Not leave a big dent. I watched another video, and a 60 thousand dollar GM truck, the guy putting out video could just scrap off undercarriage protection with his fingernails. He was pissed they did not put a better harder sealing under body coating on, especially when I have seen videos of a like 4 or 5 year old truck that with the bulk SALT they put on roadways with sand, it just rots/ rusts BAD the whole undercarriage. The guy showed the trucks underside completely corroded out badly all over. The video'er said it would take a frame off to repair it right. To save the truck. The owner had taken
great care of outer body looked very clean. It had Low miles on truck, it looked Sharp from outside. Yet whole and I mean whole undercarriage was very badly corroded. For what you pay for today's modern pickup what they call heavy duty/super duty WORK trucks. It's sad that a small NUT can do that much of a dent.
They replace the skins. The panels are made to be popped off and new ones popped on. Like the mail trucks
Thanks for sharing!
I’d rather have dents than rust. I live in the rust belt and it’s the only reason it’s necessary to replace my vehicles. By your accent it sounds like you live in the south. I purchased a 2017 f150 just for that reason! My last one is a 2008 and has rust everywhere!!!! Steel is very very strong but also heavy. I just restored a Saab 92x and the rust cost me 10 grand to fix! It’s got to be stainless steel or aluminum for me.
I don’t blame you! I agree, not having to worry about rust is huge for you all up there (yes I’m in the south ha, 10% chance of snow we are shutting down!) thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
You got to allow yourself an extra 3 to 4 ft with tailgate down that's what I do with my Ford F-150 never had a problem and years 20 years and I always shut it lock it when I using that could happen to any truck if you leave your tailgate down
This was a result of several mistakes… I normally don’t drive with the tailgate down and I normally don’t park my car there. Everything lined up just right for an accident and now I have two damaged vehicles. I learned a lesson and moved on.
That's what happens when you put a jelly donut in front of the backup screen..
Not much for jelly donuts…
I’ve seen someone hit the side of one of these trucks with a sledge and it did less than what it’d do to steel.
Honestly maybe it just depends on angles and what part of the truck etc but I’m pretty disappointed that it crushed the tailgate like that.
I've seen them suffer extensive damage
Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
@@rb7685 ua-cam.com/video/oDQZu8K51ZY/v-deo.html if you did this to a steel truck it’d cave in more and more each time. Everyone will be aluminum before long…. Most manufacturers already have aluminum hoods and doors.
I love my F-150, but my buddy is a paintless dent repair guy, and this isn’t uncommon unfortunately. A large object like a sledgehammer or basketball hitting the bed side, or door won’t leave as bad a dent as steel, but a pebble from the road, or in this case a nut falling from a tree will dent like crazy.
You hit a 3k+lb car in a crumple strength zone with a tailgate which is not designed to accept impact at that angle.
Amen James….
Plastic, if not shattered, can oten rebound with meomory. Metal does not. My daughter's Tacoma did the same thing when she backed into a tree. It happens. Those "nut wounds" are annother matter altogether.
Thanks for the feedback Rob!
On a quiet night you can hear a Chevy rusting.
Bahaha… ☠️
Over the right rear wheel well.
Operator error caused the tailgate damage, not a design issue. So, posting a video claiming it as a Ford problem is disingenuous.
Clearly you missed the message. But that’s ok. Thanks for watching.
Not to be a pain, but I’m not buying any of this. First of all you’re comparing a rigid surface on the Ford to the impact bumper on a Honda. The tailgate was never intended to take an impact while the Honda bumper was so it’s a really bad comparison..
Second I’ve parked my ‘17 F150 under a pecan tree for five years and been hit with hundreds of pecans and there are no dents in my truck. I seriously doubt those nuts caused that damage. It was probably already there from something else and was incorrectly associated with the nuts.
Great assessment from someone behind a computer screen. I’m tired of defending myself. I provided an additional video to help explain the dents (I witnessed) believe what you want… I don’t care anymore. The fact is (depending on the object and the circumstances) our aluminum trucks are susceptible to damage that where a steel body wouldn’t flinch.
That’s not fords fault, that’s your fault. When I backed into a brick mailbox I didn’t blame Ford I blamed my dumbass. I’ve owned 4 of these trucks and had acorns, and rocks come up off the road none of this ever happened, I call BS on where you got the dings.
It did in fact happen… for people like you, that for reason, don’t believe me (not sure why I would make this stuff up) I made this video. If that doesn’t convince you, sorry… but it is what it is.
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You should do a drop test on the roof. That’s why you have insurance. I have a 100 deductible for that kind of damage. Not sure I can believe a acorn did that. A black walnut on the husk maybe.
🤷🏻♂️ I didn’t make this crap up lol
wait until you get the honda repaired... that 5 MPH bumper is going to be needing to be replaced...
Some lady hit the fender on my 2020 ranger with her door, hard enough to shake my truck . And literally no dent at all . just the paint of my truck was chipped away , but oh boy, her door was messed up real bad . Now I know why most people prefer a steel body vs aluminum .
Honestly I think it’s hit or miss on wether you’ll get damage with the aluminum. In addition, I think the aluminum is stronger in some places than others. For example the side panels should be stronger than the tell gate. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
That must have been a bigass acorn.
You’d like to think so…
The nuts dropping on your truck and causing that damage is a bit worrisome
I agree!
When there saying military-grade they're basically referring to the aluminum that was made the frame not the trucks skin,,, just look where you're going when you back up
Actually the military grade aluminum is in fact referring to the aluminum body not the frame. The frame is steel. I did look while I was backing up however the car was in a blind spot. Had I had the tailgate up I would have saw the car… definitely a contributing factor to the accident.
Military grade equals contractor grade. Need to squeeze more profit out for the manufacturers
Crash bar vs aluminum will always win. I will say that one of my buddies had a bad blow out and fucked his entire quarter panel
I concur! Thanks for the feedback!
That Honda was so mean to that poor truck...
Exactly!
I see a bunch of brand new take off beds and tailgates on marketplace and craigslist for sale. Beds are normal $500 to $1000 and tailgates are $200 to $400. 90% of them are white so you'll have to paint it but a lot cheaper than eBay. I'm from the Carolina's so take that into consideration if you have to travel to get it or have it shipped.
Great information, I will look into that. Thank you for taking the time to comment and for watching!
That dent in the roof and hood is no way from a fucin' nut. I dropped my drill on my roof it slide down and bounced off the roof of my 250 and not even a scratch. Try tellin' the TRUTH bud.
Wow Rick, this was the truth. Regardless, thank you for taking the time to comment and for watching. I appreciate you.
The tailgate wasnt designed to be a battering ram stop backing into stuff
That said i agree the aluminum tailgate needs to be stronger. I have one.
It’s the first time I have used my tailgate in this manner, I don’t recommend it. To fix it, the tailgate has to be replaced per the body shops I’ve talked to. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
Well when you hit the corner of another bumber. Normally the corner wins. Strength of the bumper is at the mounting points or the corners. Like the elbow and knees.
Vaild point! Thank you for taking the time to comment!
God forbid a grizzly attacks the truck with you in it.
The lighter body has its challenges, but it increases fuel efficiency, weight to power ratio, and payload capacity.
Yes, that would be scary…. There are definitely pros to the lighter material. Not sure if there is enough for the “fuel efficiency” we are only talking a couple hundred pounds of savings. But yes payload, weight to power yes, 🙌🏻.
I had same problem. Stupid tail gate pops down on its own, while backing up trailer.
It’s crazy… I hope they fix that soon.
must have been a fuck of an acorn or one pissed off squirrel
It was hugggee.
An egg corn? Man I'm sorry idk about that. They weigh next to nothing. I guess I'd have to see it happen. Love the truck tho.
An egg corn? An acorn is what hit my hood, they are solid little nuts. Thank you, I appreciate it, I still have a couple more things to do to it!
Just curious why you're on your fourth aluminum body f series..
And to all you guys that think the aluminum body truck is a good idea my buddy is a body technician and has worked on many of those trucks he said they're garbage they're expensive to fix and it's a very bad idea...
Nothing mechanical, chasing deals, and trying different engines. I made 4K on my 2020 f150. I’ll be in the f250 for awhile though.
What qualifies it as military grade aluminum? It's a marketing ploy .
That’s what I’m thinking… it’s to make folks be ok with an aluminum truck in my opinion.
I'm not sure what fell on your roof but I'm sure it wasn't a walnut. I dropped a 2x6x8' long on the front of my truck. The only damage it did was a very small dent. Hardly noticeable it I didn't point it out.
We aren’t comparing the same things. A 2x6 isn’t the same as a nut falling from 40’. For the record, as I have be en saying from the beginning, it was in fact a nut. It split in half and half was in the bed. I was in the truck when it fell and as you can imagine it was extremely loud.
$2000.00 for a new tailgate. Yeah right. You may want to double that price. No CAPS.
Actually I was able to get three quotes and they average around 2500 in my area. I can see where it might cost more in other parts of the country.
That's fair!!
You can bang that tailgate out. I wouldn’t replace it, trucks get beat up anyway if you work it.
You’re right… I may give it a wack!
Cybertruck will be the only truck not made of aluminum.
if you pull the rear bumper cover off the honda you will see there are several steel pannels welded togather on the corner inside of the tail light.these combination of welded pannels is most definately stronger than a steel tailgate.the aluminum didnt stand a chance.look out your bed when backing up with tailgate down so you can see when your going to hit something with it.simple solution for future referance.
Great information on the Honda… not sure if you have been in a newer f250 but you can’t just look out back… there are many blind spots on the truck especially the way the car was parked. I did learn a lesson though. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
Heck ive owned several ford cars and trucks never had a piece of mail stating they had a recall aint owned my dodge six months and got a recall on passenger side airbag i aint even the first owner
Ram needs a new airbag vendor. They have been battling airbag issues for years now. I hope they get that resolved quickly for you!
@@theoverdriveconsumerchanne4424 ill call the dealership monday see if thats been fixed by them running vin
So let me get this straight - Ford Motor Co and/or the dealer did not warn you not to back into you own car in the driveway - GOT IT THANKS
Yup… you’re welcome.
What I hate the most about ford is those stupid door window openings how they're sloped. I like resting my arm on the door with the window open but like that you can't it's just stupid
I know what you mean but I’m so used to it now it feels weird driving anything else.
I do not specifically disagree with your comment. However, there is an upside to the Ford truck front doors. First, a smidge more visibility. Second, the ergonomics of the interior panel have been superior to GM and Dodge (Ram) since the introduction of the 1999 Super Duty trucks. The design of the Ford front door interior panel offers a very wide and comfortable spot to place the left arm for drivers and the right arm for passengers.
Better hope the driver of the Honda doesn't sue the a-hole that backed into him 😂
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It could end up being a sticky situation… so far, so good.
Glad you see it's all on good fun 👍
I feel your pain tho totally sucks
Old neighbor's of mine husband and wife. The wife rear-ended the husband while driving and did a pretty good bit of damage to both vehicles... Hope that can give you a laugh. The first dents/scratches in any new vehicle suck... But now it's a "real" truck 😎
Thanks for the video
@@thecamdenyard ha yeah it hurt my feelings for a bit. The Honda I honestly don’t care about, it’s my work car but that silver truck is my baby.
When ever I bung up something I call it an added feature.
That’s what I did… I added tailgate aerodynamics… boasted 0.0001 mpg.
That's why they call it a tailgate, not a bumper. Due to owner stupidity, I have managed to mangle two steel tailgates on a 2015 Superduty. They are not designed for impact. Particularly with a 9,000 truck causing the impact. Don't care what they are made out of. Yah, the aluminium bodies have been so bad that Ford still out sells every other pickup on the market, for the last 40 years. Consumers aren't stupid, if the aluminum pickups were terrible it wouldn't take long before their sales dryed up and they would be forced to change. Don't buy for s second a walnut did that bed damage, that's as bad as the damage in the faked commercial Chevy did with the tool box to make the F150 bed look bad when it first came out. Sorry you damaged your truck and yes, it's going to be expensive to fix.
Tell me how you really feel…
@@theoverdriveconsumerchanne4424 just sayin', you know what they say, opinions are like a--holes, everybody has one. One isn't really any better than the other. Just different. Have a nice day.
@@christownsend7602 thanks, same to you!
Can only imagine being in a small hail storm while going down the highway. Maybe I'll just drive my f150 on sundays on sunny days. It's still so much fun to drive!
I love my truck! There’s pros and cons to everything! It’s hard to beat a ford in my opinion! Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
I’m not sure why, we got hit my a hail storm, my wife’s CRV was dented every up facing panel, but my 2017 F150 didn’t have any damage, they were parked side by side, my theory is the F150 aluminum was able to bounce the hail stone off better, these looked to be the size of a nickel.
DUDE was that walnut fired from a military squirrel's AR style potato gun??? I had a 2017 f150 and now a 2020 f150 and I haven't had any issues with dents... i backed into my 20ft car trailer with my tailgate down and all it did was crack the plastic guard... somethin' fishy...
Feed your squirrels and maybe they'll stop shooting at ya! Lol
It’s tuff down here… we have mosquitoes the size of small birds and rats the size of raccoons.
I have a brand new F150 and my front fender dented in two places from leaning on it when i was putting in my cold air intake. I have done this on many other vehicles and I am shocked and pissed off it would dent that easy.
Wow! Yeah man that’s not cool. That’s the reason I wanted to do the video. I feel
like we were promised a stronger/tougher truck. It’s disappointing.
Bumpers are designed to absorb impacts. Tailgates Re not designed to absorb impacts.
I agree with what you’re saying. The point is I barely hit my car. Whether or not it was designed to bump anything it still should not have caved in IMO.
hate to tell you that it dont matter what the tailgate is made from, all of them are weak crap when hit on the top. Vehicles are made to be disposable. You have to treat them likewise.
I’ve learned a lot from this experience ha. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
All vehicles with Aluminum panel's will be like this EPA wants better gas mileage, trucks have to become lighter... If you had just closed your tail gate, this video wouldn't be here...
I think it is good from time to time for manufacturers to be challenged to create new and improved products. The EcoBoost being one of them… aluminum bodies allowing for huge payload numbers for trucks etc. I’m not hating, I’m just a little
surprised and disappointed at the outcome. I have no one to blame but myself, I just took a shortcut and now I’m paying. But hey, had I not crushed my tailgate, I wouldn’t have made this video and which would have resulted in me not talking to you. So Paul, I’m thankful for the lesson and the opportunity to speak with you! Happy New Year!
your insurance will cover the damage to your truck and your car. You'll only be responsible for the deductible on the truck. The Accord is the claimant vehicle in this incident. I'm a licensed claims adjuster and appraiser.
Thank you for telling me that!
I call B S!!!!
Several acorns have hit my truck from at least 15 - 20ft, NO DAMAGE! Lol! I don't know how far that acorn fell, 40 -50ft? How far the walnut fell? But I don't see this much damage from a walnut falling on a truck, much less a freaking acorn lmao-lol-lol!
Is that Honda jacked up? I don't see how a tailgate even lines up with underneath the taillight on a Honda car? Questionable to say the least!
Believe what you want… just because it hasn’t happened to you doesn’t mean it can’t happen. Regarding the tailgate and Honda alignment I made this video because people were freaking out… I mean I didn’t make this stuff up… I have a life. Proof my F250 damage was not faked…
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I hate those black walnut trees! Had a walnut fall from one at my old house and crack the faux-hood scoop on my 2004 Mustang. For those that don’t know how heavy they are, think about the size of a racquetball and heavier that a baseball.
They are wicked nuts! Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
My 2019 F250 Lariat was hit by hail and didn't have anything close to that dent you have from a falling acorn that must have been a mature tree with big ol nuts. The crash is totally on you and I would not expect a tailgate to hold up with the weight of that truck pushing it into an object, it if twas the bumper then it would be different. My new 2021 F150 Lariat Powerboost did get a small ding from a rock by the headlight, it seems to me that the Windshield seems to get chips way faster than my 250 did. Anyway, it sucks for you, as that is a great looking truck. Are they going to fix or replace the tailgate?
Yea it’s crazy… bad luck I guess regarding the acorn. I was walking to the truck after moving a couple kids toys and the tree just dropped one on it. I haven’t decided if I’m going to get insurance to fix it or not. I may because it really bothers me haha.
I have had multiple aluminum body Fords and the have held up to to much more significant drops.
Maybe I just have bad luck? I mean… I am a bit disappointed.
@@theoverdriveconsumerchanne4424 unfortunately we all have been there lol!
@@Barnes_413 glad to know I’m not alone! 😂