Can a Porsche beat a Skoda RS OFF-ROAD?
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- It’s time for the off-road battle you didn’t know you needed in your life… Until today!
We’ve got our hands on a Porsche Cayenne and Skoda Kodiaq vRS, and we’re about to test them over a series of off-road challenges to which is best once they leave the tarmac!
So let’s see how these cars stack up. Starting with the Skoda, it’s powered by a 2-litre turbocharged petrol engine that can produce 245hp and 370Nm of torque. It’s equipped with four-wheel drive, and a new one will cost around £48,000.
Then we have the Porsche Cayenne. Under the bonnet, it’s equipped with a 3-litre V6 turbo coupled with an electric motor, which combines to put down 462hp and 700Nm of torque. Just like the Skoda it also comes with 4WD.
So they’re both pretty powerful, but it’s fair to say neither of these cars were built for advanced off-roading! So bar them both coming with an off-road driving mode, that’s your lot! Think you can pick a winner? Drop your guess in the comments, then keep watching to see if you were right!
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If you'd just spent £80k on a Porsche Cayenne, would you dare take it off-road?! VOTE BELOW!
VOTE: Definitely!
VOTE: Not a chance!
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Definitely
Yes i would
... maybe
The Cayenne most definitely have hill descent control. it's called PHC, "Porsche Hill Control". Puzzled how nobody bothered to either check the manual or at least google it. Press the S button on the cruise control stalk, select PHC, and use the rotary to regulate the speed.
Well they probobly know that but needed to give the skoda a point.
Same thought!
They seemed to help the skoda a few times. Easier line in the steps and what not.
WHAT A FAF! To go through all that crap I will say it doesn't have hill decent control for where it's stupidly located
@@Mellow6996 you got a lot of surprise giant downhills on your commute? Seems ok to bury something like that in menus vs someone like HVAC
Cayenne hill descent controll can be activated by using cruise control stock behind the steering wheel
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Love it when they introduce Graham and it's always a clip of him falling down. 😂
I can’t believe you guys did an off road comparison video without the little hairpin bit, I always found that to be the most informative test
And no gnarly hill climb?!
That spot maybe gets too rough when it's wet
seeing how muddy it was on the first test wouldn't be surprised if they were not available at the day they shot the video
@@Billiamiscool yes. Sadly...
@@Onewheelordeal but can be also rather unstable.
My family has a Skoda Superb 2021 model so I’m obviously gonna be a bit biased 😅 but this was a very good video to watch. Porsche has just nailed every single car they’ve made over the years and it shows why it costs what it costs. I think Skoda are getting slept on too much but it is a very good value brand, in fact most of the time you even get more car out of the money you spend. Great Video as always😁
Better cause the less they are recognised the less we will pay 🎉
To me, both were pretty amazing given the extremely wrong tyres they had!
When a Skoda Kodiaq VRS is "cheap"
Welcome to the new era where nothing is affordable anymore.
It’s a shitbox tho
I laugh when i see this 😂
When is Porsche never expensive is my question?
@@Presto_001 When it's 3 years old
These cars depreciate so fast that a 2000 Cayenne is 5k
And dead
The Cayenne does have hill control
The front of the kodiaq facelift looks really good 7:47 it kinda looks like a land rover discovery
From the side looks like a BMW.
Looks like Disco
Only because it looks good it doesn’t mean it is.
@@berk6123 yes that's the model I meant actually😅😅
@@lukesepter3250 agree.
I have the feeling that the old Kodiaq BiTurbo TDI with 500Nm would have done better than the petrol one.
well a diesel have more torque so probably it would be better,because here the horses arent as important as torque!
@@lonewolf1300 It would have been much more close given that the biTdi provides 500Nm at 2000 rpm?
@Jesús Rodríguez Valencia I'd say yes,since then the car could be more potent in situations like this . On asphalt may not be as sporty,but on rough terrain would definitely be a more versatile opponent
It wouldnt. Torque and horsepower wont matter in a track like this. Exception being maybe the first uphill dragrace but even then its not certain.
@@lonewolf1300 Torque as a single figure as given in this video is *never* important. What can be sometimes, but rarely, is low RPM horsepower, which is what people really mean when they say "Torque". In this test, neither is important.
The way Graham is introduced is the best of all 🤭
If it's zero points for touching the brakes on the hill descent then it should also be zero points for losing bits of your car on the course 😉
Yes. Both should've got 4 pts.
Mat has to give himself some sort of advantage. Would be boring if Porsche won every single one
And btw it has hill descent control. They just didn’t turn it on. You have to select S as in slow and turn the speed to the minimal speed
Uhm that was driver error tho. The Porsche guy had to press brakes where as Matt drove like a twat. He usually drives well
Also Mat clearly said you’re allowed to chicken out and touch the brakes
There were about 2-3 races where Matt started waaaaay after the Porsche started. Knowing how matt starts in the regular drag races, I'm wondering what happened here.
Carwow drag races are pure bullshit and unfair now. In last race they gave a bad driver and good driver in another car of similar power and speed which would come down the to drivers capability for the win. These combination is making two cars look different although it was just a good and bad driver difference and in this video they have done it this review is just totally biased they didn't use porsche upto it's full potential and then used unfair means to point making Porsche looked worse than it is.
@@deadroses.x Hi there! Me Chinese woman scientist. Me see you very upset about Carwow drag races. You think it's bullshit and unfair now. Last race, they give good driver and bad driver in similar power and speed cars. This make cars look different, but it just bad and good driver difference. Me understand this make you angry.
Me no comment on race, but me know drag race just one way to compare cars. Many other things important too, like safety, fuel efficiency, and handling. Me think you should keep open mind and look at different information when choosing car.
Me want remind you not to assume intention of Carwow reviewers. Maybe they just want show difference in driver skill, not make one car look better or worse than other.
That’s prolly the cars traction control system causing a delay because I can hear the engine revving before the car moves off
@@Professor-Scientist agreed
@@Professor-Scientist 💀
The cayenne has hill descend control. It’s a little icon on the centre consol
If you want to off-road race a Porsche, then get your hands on a 911 Dakar and then do a comparison between this and the Huracan Sterrato. That would be an interesting one to watch...
Throw an Arial Nomad in there for good measure.
@@ApothecaryTerry Ariel Nomad very cool car! It look like so much like monster truck, but small and fast. Many people like drive it off-road and have fun. It expensive, but worth it if want adventure to have.
those cars probably hard to get hands on
@@Samal_ibra they managed to get their hands on an f1 car and a chiron for a drag race so I have faith
Id like to see the subaru forester take part in a comparison video like this
Or what about Subaru 360?
Do they still sell the Forester in Europe?
@@ultraguy8771 Yes, it’s their best selling model.
Do you think it will get there without the engine blowing?
@@mediocreman2 😂
@carwow Idk about that my cayenne does have hill decent control and i have the same model ... Its in the same settings as a cruise control, you just have to switch the modes
I have a question, which one is supposed to be cheap? Xd you're kidding? From the title I thought it would be something really cheap
I lov the design of skoda it has its own face and that looks really good
Matt definitely started a few races after the Porsche, especially the 2nd up hill dash.
Because the vrs was struggling for traction
@@antoniouloukas But the wheels were not spinning, it simply delayed setting off. Maybe electronic handbrake was on and taking a second to disengage?
@@tirinoarim i think i saw wheels spinning a lot. Maybe hill start assist was engadged and delayed, i dont know. When i saw it again in slow motion i saw that the front wheels were engadged first and after they slept, then torque was push back to rear wheels hence the delay. If you only pay attention to the rear wheel, you would see like the car is not moving because mat didnt press the throttle, were in reality, the awd system was slow to respond.
@@antoniouloukas definitely spin once running. But the Haldex adds in the rears when triggered so shouldnt shut off the fronts at all. But if you note the tail of the Skoda, you see the brake lights going off and the tail dropping. Think its the electronic handbrake/hill start disengage that's the delay. The porches wheels are already moving before the skodas brakes release.
@@tirinoarim i mean you know that these offroad battles are not very serious. They do them just for fun and they sometimes fix the result. For example the cayenne definately has hdc. I might not be the offroader it used to be with lockers and low range, but they wouldnt remove hdc from an suv. So i dont know, it could be anything really.
You can find PHC (Porsche hill control) in cruise settings. It’s in their Car Manual.
What is a car manual? 😂
@@spookie3000 Apologies, my words was not forthcoming. It is a booklet in a car that guides through every bells and whistles and functions and what not.
@@Pilot-Ali wow! Curious to see if my car has one... 😉
@@spookie3000 😄
From the side angles going down the side slope you can see that the porsche has better tires and suspension set up you can even see the sidewall of the porsche spread and wrinkle to fight for as much grip as possible
the flex of the sidewall tells me they let more air out of the tyres on the Porsche. But agreed on the better suspension and tyres. However you'd be disappointed if that wasn't the case given the pedigree
You can adjust the speed of Škoda Hill Hold Control faster with gas pedal and slower with brake pedal. When speed is appropriate feet of the pedals and Škoda maintains the selected speed.
6:56 - Mat Watson: "Two points to the Porsche, one for "this".
Yanni: Enough said, Mathew! :)
Mat thank you so much for this insane video!
Congratulations to the Porsche from Pilsen, the old cradle of the Škoda brand. What an exciting muddy race. We got used to see a Škoda against regular VWs and Škoda has been rather clearly better for a decade but this is a new level. As kids, we could only see a match of Škodas against two gems of the German car engineering, Trabant and Wartburg.
přesně!
Do offroad and dragrace with AMG Gls vs SQ7 vs X7m!!🙏
The VRS did well considering it's marketed as essentially a seven seater hot hatch, with the scout as the off-road version in the line up
hot hatch? It's a SUV
And well ... the scout trim level is rather for dirt roads than actual offroad; The more you think a SUV is a offroad car the longer is the walk back to the road
@@EnjoyFirefighting I know the Scout's not a hard core off roader but it has better ground clearance, gets extra under body protection and driver aids ie auto electronic diff lock. Those are all things that would make a difference on a course like this.
And as for comparing the Kodiaq VRS to a hot hatch, it's a bit silly in a way but not so much when you think about it: The current 2 litre 4 pot is used across most of the VAG hot hatches and hot cross overs and the most likely buyers will be people that used to have a golf GTi/ Octavia VRS etc but now they've got more kids so need more seats and luggage space but still want to have a bit of fun on the way back from the school run.
@@tomraymond9795 it does NOT have better ground clearance and the under body protection is nothing but a hard sheet of plastic under the engine, that's it.
Well, those are still two entirely different car classifications: SUV with different trims, and hatchbacks or station wagons with different trims as well
I did sell my car through carwow. Put down every little scratch and your “trusted dealer” still tried to knock the price down. Absolute clowns
I would love to see a video of the first gen bmw X5 vs the new X5 offroad!
Editor vs Grahama feud continues😄
Nice comparison . Would be a bit better if both vehicle were running the same tyres as we all know your tyre choice makes all the difference.
When it comes to traction, its all about tires. True in mud and especially in snow.
The cars don't come with identical tyres. Changing them would therefore defeat the purpose of the comparison.
On the other hand, it would depend on the type of comparison. This one -- the simplest form -- is as they would be purchased from the dealer.
For example, Land Rovers are excellent off-road vehicles, but generally sold with large wheels and all-season tires. The opposite of what's best for off-road traction. Its the same with the Mercedes G-Class.
Giving them similar wheels/tires wouldn't necessarily make it more fair; rather, just change the type (what's being judged) of comparison.
I've seen both types of tests, and their great. Consumer get to learn a lot about their cars, and how these vehicles work and perform in different conditions: "Can I take my street-equipped Cayenne off-road?" Well now we know the answer is...yes.
I just love that purring sound of the Skoda! And the Skoda looks better. Either way, I'd accept any of these two cars.
Me, Chinese woman scientist, really love 1-liter engines. They're much better than those big V6, V8, or V12 engines, you know? They may have more power, but they're not very practical.
1-liter engines are much more fuel-saving than the big engines. They're also lighter and easier to take care of. Plus, they can still go very fast and have good performance. Recently, I drove a Skoda with a 1-liter engine, and it was so good for driving in the city or on the highway.
Some people might like the loud noise from a big engine, but for me, I think 1-liter engines are the best choice. They're efficient, fast, and easy to handle.
@@Professor-Scientist you have to be a bot
Pounds per point though, the Skoda has it. Assuming these two are the prices listed in the vid, the Skoda costs £8,012.50 per point and the Porsche £9,862.50 per point.
That might change if they had actually used the hill descent control which the Porsche has though 😄 Not that anyone who buys either of these 2 will ever take it off road except perhaps to park in a field for the local farmer's market in their posh countryside village so they can buy some artisanal cheese.
@@ApothecaryTerry Opel Tigra also has one.
@@purwantiallan5089 The only hill descent an Opel Tigra has ever used is hitting a tree halfway down 😂
I have wanted you to off-road a Cayenne for ages. Good work
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What about offroading a Chevy Camaro Z28?
how did the porsche get a 0 on the hill descent???....isn't it 2 points to the winner, 1 point to the second place and 0 if any fails to complete the challenge?...Mat!!
gotta love the off road challenged though, when is yanni bringing his Urus here?
Prob when he finished wrapping it for the 900th time 😉
@@michaelhorsman3380 or even 5000th time.
All these off road challenges are completely pointless unless they have the same tyres on each car.
When is a in-depth review of Mazda CX60 coming?
Both of these two cars are very good, I love them 🥰 Thanks Matt, very good video 👍👍👍
Porsche has PHC using the button under the cruise control stalk. It's the Porsche hill descent system.
Love your content ❤️❤️
10/10.
The Porsche definitely has a hill descent control mode. Both of these cars are 4WD SUVs, not "off-roaders". The most off-road the Porsche will get is parking in a field to watch the local polo match.
Wow, the incline is cool and the car is strong
You never mention the most important thing: they should have exactly the same tyres, otherwise it's pointless comarison.
How is 50 big ones cheap especially for a skoda. Still great video and matt a legend.
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No one used the word "cheap" They said "less expensive". And also, modern Škodas are a far cry from their predecessors from 2 decades ago so people need to start getting used to the idea of paying decent money for them.
@@GKBehindTheWheel the premise of this video was to see cheap vs expensive so which is cheap?? Maybe it is cheap for you but it isn't for me. And to clarify own a 21 plate octavia vrs and I think it's the best car I've owned and I have had a e90 335i Audi s4 avant and mk7 vw golf R, so I have had many different brands and cars so I believe I have owned enough to know what is worth the money, and the reason I believe my vrs is a good a good car is because it punches above its weight and does everything I ask for good value. But at this level it's far too expensive and I say the same about all these cars, and considering skoda is not a premium brand nearly 50 grand for a mid range suv is too much. Would you be happy paying for 45grand for the a Suzuki Across because I know I wouldn't the same principle here.
@@j.a.citadel3258 First of all, whether something is cheap or expensive depends on your perception. For people in developing countries even a Dacia Duster would be an expensive, unattainable thing. In this video, the Kodiaq is simply "cheap" compared to the Cayenne, not cheap in general. Now, do I think the Kodiaq RS is worth €60-65k? Yes, because it offers EXACTLY what I want. And I truly believe that the Kodiaq, Superb and Octavia are some of the best cars on sale and I would have them over a GLB/GLC, A4/C-Class and A6/5-Series. Not DESPITE the fact that they're Škodas, but BECAUSE they're Škodas. They offer everything that I could ask for and none of the stuff that I don't care about, while being cheaper than the equivalent offerings from premium brands.
0:16 Poor Guy
The grill of the Skoda really looks like a BMWs
From all of your content, these off-road ones have the less meaning. With your production budget, you should apply the same tyres for both competitor every time.
can you make an "cheap using off road tires and expensive using street tires"? and see how much influences
What about using racing tires?
@@purwantiallan5089 Yeah, lets do a offroad test with Drag-Slicks ^^
These are the best videos
Skoda Kodiaq RS 75 000 euros, yes really cheap.....
what they mean is premium brand vs generalist
@@PaulTC777 Sure i understand but it's not "cheap" i work in Monaco and i cant buy the Skoda so im poor?
that clip of Graham falling over becoming a staple in the off road series is sending me to hell🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The RS is the better looking car with more space, better seats and less price depreciation.
Skoda is a very good performance
As an off-road fanboi, I'm loving all the recent 4x4 comparisons better than the standard drag race stuff.
Yoy never gave Yanni the 2nd chance of going up the hill....Ha !!
just think how lame it will be if a car wont be able to complete the first challenge( hill climb race)
Cayenne definitely have hill descent control as standard.
I would go for the Porsche Absolutely brilliant team carwow thank you very much and to the cameraman to the starter and Matt . Thank you very much.
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The Cayenne is simply much more superior.
@@purwantiallan5089 Much more expensive as well 🤷♂️😂
@@GKBehindTheWheel That usually comes with building a better car
@@SkyrimCZtutorials And that usually comes with knowing that you're going to be selling it at a higher price point.
£50,000 cheap!
In what world?
The Cayenne has hill descend control 👍
Yep. It also miles above Suzuki Alto Works in terms of technology.
@@purwantiallan5089 Bro tf how u are even comparing a Porsche to a maruti alto..
U didn't peddle on time for the hill race on kodiaq both the times 😔
Cheap vs expensive? Hahah CHEAP!?
I wanna see new defender vs new ineos grenadier that would be interesting.
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Or Subaru Impreza?
What the hell is an ineos?
@@deleted.6743 a modern interpretation of the original Land Rover defender made by a company that isn’t Land Rover and has the engine of a bmw and built in the old g wagon factory
Defender would win, pretty much has the Ineos beat in majority of categories also I have my doubts it’s t/c is gonna be half as good as the Defenders.
the skoda Kodiak is listed on the carwow as 5 million dollars so I can see which one is the expensive one
Hello carwow.. can you all do a Rimac C one and Nevera drag race? Hi from Croatia!
If u bring the cars yes
@@MrCosmin94 🤣🤣🤣
More interesting would be C one vs Plaid model x...
Someone should’ve gone out their way doing some research about the cars and a set of fair rules before the race, since a race can’t be subjective. Skoda losing bits on the track and still receive points is just 😂😂😂
great video
Kodiaq isn’t longitudinal engined so it’s at disadvantage with haldex awd whereas Porsche has Torsen
Mat, u should try real off road car, compare Toyota Rav4 Mk2 (XA20) with other newer off roads, it would be interesting to watch
Or what about ISUZU PIAZZA?
@@purwantiallan5089 Dat aint off road car but i got ur point, it would be cool to see that too in future videos :)
Ne bih rekao da je ta skoda jeftina, jeftinija, da. Ali, jeftina, ne. Jeftin bi bio duster ili jimny (relativno jeftin) ali taj vrs je vise od 50hilj evra
I wanna see new defender vs new ineos grenadier that would be interesting.
I thought it was going to be the Yeti video
That Porsche at 3:04 😆
Carwow do an off road challenge where you go mad on each challenge and 5 points if you roll the car
I would love to see this challenge again with the car full of people. Come on, Matt Matt
Is it just me or the Kodiaq exhaust sound was surprising?
It has a very nicely sounding 5-cylinder sound actuator :)
Mat can you drag race a Bugatti Chiron Super Sport against a Rimac Nevera with Yianni?
And the truth is none of these cars was made to drive off-road
Nahh what y'all did to Graham's intro was a violation
My gen 1 Touareg with 275 AT tires is a tank and with lockers it's unstoppable..👍🏻
Matt , you cheated on the down hill. You wanted a second try going up complaining about your lane being too muddy but chose the easy path going down. Plus you should of gave the Porsche a second chance. Poor Matthew, always trying to cheat 🤣
OK now Skoda has also this outside artificial engine noise generator!?
I wait until they simulate combustion noises for ev on stock vehicles.
4 cyl engines now get V8 roumble. I suggest v10 or v12 sound for EVs.
Jes I don't like it 😂
Why are you not allowed to brake on the hill descent if the hill descent function of the Skoda is clearly operated by brakes as it is seen at 03:34 ?
Surprisingly the Porsche Cayenne does have hill control, it is called: Porsche Hill Control (PHC)
Opel Tigra also has Hill Control Assist.
Do these vehicles have the same tires? This could make a HUGE difference in the results!
Nope they dont. And yes, it does.
Do you expect the same tires as one car is almost twice as expensive as the other?
The Cayenne has downhill assist. Learn about the cars and run them against one another fairly. It’s ridiculous not using a feature a car does have and then saying it fails at the corresponding challenge.
The Skoda is actually just called "RS" instead of "V-RS". Dont know why they have a v in the badge though
It's vRS in the UK, but just RS everywhere else in the world. Something to do with Ford iirc.
Great video already watched it in 0.001 secs
the body of the kodiaq rs is bigger, the body of the cayenne is smaller, but the best is still the porsche
Utterly lost the plot when you call a £50k car cheap. Seriously, thats f****d up. Thsts where we are in 2023! 😶
The Cayenne has PHC - Porsche Hill Control - this should have been checked before the test took place, especially considering you’re reviewing cars 📖
Did Graham dirty in the intro
The Cayenne HAS the hill descent control. You can activate it with the cruise control stick. Please read the bloody manual !!!
Hi Matt, i Wonder if you can do all 1.0l turbo new car, fiesta, civic, polo, 500x, i20,....
The Cayenne miles above the Kodiaq because the Cayenne has Porsche Hillclimb Assist Control.