DO NOT BUY A CAR WITH THIS ENGINE - PEUGEOT PURETECH ENGINE

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  • Опубліковано 12 тра 2024
  • In this video we talk about the Peugeot / Citroen 1.2 Puretech Engine fitted to a number of vehicles including Vauxhalls / Opel's and More from 2012.
    I talk about the issues with the engine, in my experience on working on them and why I will not buy and sell vehicles fitted with this engine as a car dealer here in the UK.
    Filmed APRIL 2024
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  • @carukchannel
    @carukchannel  17 днів тому +67

    ** Edit - It's Suggested that the upper limit 250ml of oil being used per 1000 miles is still acceptable, this is 1Liter per 4000 miles not 10000 as mentioned in error by me. (Thanks to those who commented and pointed out) Clearly my maths are not very sharp with millilitres 😁😁 Bring back Imperial 👍👍

    • @thatcheapguy525
      @thatcheapguy525 17 днів тому +6

      oh please no, not Imperial. that mean using Foreignheight again.

    • @bigmacntings7451
      @bigmacntings7451 16 днів тому +3

      Thanks for the update.
      If you are unfortunate enough to have one of these vehicles,then what brand of wet belt do you find the most resilient???
      Gates and Dayco seem to be basically peugeot OEM spec at about half the price,but in your day to day life as a mechanic,which gets your seal of approval?

    • @waynemiller4602
      @waynemiller4602 16 днів тому +2

      @@bigmacntings7451 both are good makes....i'm sure dayco did about 3 updates on the belt to stop them failing....im sure peugeot use dayco belts on the pure shite

    • @RWBHere
      @RWBHere 15 днів тому +1

      @@thatcheapguy525 True. We've almost completely advanced from the old acre-feet per pound Fahrenheit figures. With the notable exception of miles. Oh, and the dear old quaint USA. 😉

    • @KenFullman
      @KenFullman 15 днів тому +3

      I'm more curious about the reason that the piston rings are failing. No matter how advanced an engine is, piston rings are just rings, made of metal. It's very low tech. In fact they have been machined from cast iron for years without issue. Also since it's such a simple part, there are plenty of third party manufacturers of these parts.

  • @jimmyjt16
    @jimmyjt16 17 днів тому +205

    A green engine designed to be efficient and save the planet, but it burns lots of oil, isn’t very fuel efficient and rarely gets to 100k miles before it needs a replacement. The irony

    • @jaggass
      @jaggass 16 днів тому +4

      Yet if you get something Swedish, German or Japanese many cars from they're will do over 100k without a problem. I think in America there was a Honda Accord that had done 1m miles from new.

    • @Benzknees
      @Benzknees 15 днів тому +10

      A bit like my 47yr old boiler, which has only needed 4 thermocouples in that time, and which appears to use no more gas than my friends' & family's modern condensing boilers, some of which have needed replacement after only 5yrs, and seem to regularly need new parts fitting.

    • @jimmyjt16
      @jimmyjt16 15 днів тому +7

      @@Benzknees mental isn’t it. It’s the same with all this modern eco crap.

    • @johnconnolly3320
      @johnconnolly3320 15 днів тому

      its a money making scheme saving the planet is the biggest scam the world has ever seen i wonder when people will realise ?????

    • @Rich77UK
      @Rich77UK 14 днів тому +2

      Problem is they are made as light as possible which equates to fragility. Then DOUBLE the horse power with a turbo and you can see your area of trouble. Who NEEDS 150bhp in a 208...don't get me wrong...I like it...but it's not needed. The 205gti 1.9 had 130ish bhp and was a rocket. Give the 208 125bhp and remove the electric seats, windows and other crap and your car WILL be greener.

  • @simonh870
    @simonh870 17 днів тому +238

    I blame emissions regulations mostly. They have forced manufacturers to make engines fragile in the name of reduced frictional and inertial losses. Wet belts, thin timing chains, low tension piston rings, reduced engine sizes with a turbo (making the engine work harder to produce the same power as a larger one), EGR and particulate filters, plus some cost cutting to keep things affordable... Couple all of that with extended service intervals to make the car appear cheap to run and you have a recipe for disaster.

    • @paulnolan1352
      @paulnolan1352 17 днів тому +14

      It’s simpler than that, the Engines are basically eating their own crap.

    • @martinhammett8121
      @martinhammett8121 17 днів тому +14

      Blame the manufacture not the regulator, cutting corners & cost to increase profits

    • @simonh870
      @simonh870 17 днів тому +12

      ​@@martinhammett8121 I agree that manufacturers have cut corners, but they have had to. The newer more complicated engines are a lot more costly to make than an older normally aspirated, indirect injection engine. If they din't keep costs in check they would either make a loss or prices would need to rise. Car manufacturers are in it to make money, otherwise they wouldn't exist.

    • @geordie25tdi
      @geordie25tdi 17 днів тому +4

      Well said . You are spot on sir .

    • @marktucker208
      @marktucker208 17 днів тому

      100% this and its something that i never really thought about. It makes sense though

  • @scotty6346
    @scotty6346 17 днів тому +98

    Ex wife has a 2018 C3 Aircross with the 1.2 Turbo Puretech, Regularly serviced and at 40K miles i checked the timing belt through the oil filler hole in the cam cover as i had discovered that the wet belts give problems, The belt was cracked across every 2mm, She booked it straight in for a Wet belt, It cost her £600 and the garage said good job i spotted it as it was about to fail and this is just at 40K miles! I told her to get shot of it but she likes it too much! 😂

    • @owensteele1645
      @owensteele1645 17 днів тому +7

      Well done for checking.

    • @jimmyjt16
      @jimmyjt16 17 днів тому +19

      Shouldn’t be happing on an 18 plate car. Madness

    • @user-bz9cb8bp2y
      @user-bz9cb8bp2y 17 днів тому +15

      As an old mechanic it still puzzles me how it cost so much to change a belt, sure sump and drainer removed but £580..really.....is taking the pss

    • @elmondo3543
      @elmondo3543 17 днів тому +3

      @@user-bz9cb8bp2y this must be a stealership price!…what makes me wonder is why a wet belt has been designed?

    • @user-bz9cb8bp2y
      @user-bz9cb8bp2y 17 днів тому +3

      @@elmondo3543 correct. (friends car). I agree.... As a young mechanic I thought the switch from chain to belt a mistake but they turned out OK... Wet belts... Yuk....

  • @no-oneman.4140
    @no-oneman.4140 День тому +1

    Just discovered this guy. He is a natural teacher, so fluent. There must be provable design faults so why has this never been to court. Makes you want to rush out and buy an EV or stick with Japanese.

  • @jimdavis5230
    @jimdavis5230 17 днів тому +76

    Scary stuff regarding cars fitted with this engine. My neighbour has an old 2007 Suzuki Swift which she has serviced regularly. So far it's done around 140,000 miles, never broken down, doesn't use any oil between oil changes and the engine sounds as smooth as silk. Amazing for a cheap budget car in my opinion.

    • @732daven
      @732daven 17 днів тому +4

      glad to hear, i just bought a 2012 second hand swift

    • @keithhooper6123
      @keithhooper6123 17 днів тому +4

      I had three Honda vans,over more the twenty years ,all bought used.Never had a belt fail,all ended up with over 80,000miles,on them.

    • @Galahadfairlight
      @Galahadfairlight 17 днів тому +18

      Swifts use a camchain, and usually lasts the life of the car. Far superior engine than this modern crap

    • @StuartAinsworth
      @StuartAinsworth 17 днів тому

      Thoroughly tested before manufacture.

    • @galboy5308
      @galboy5308 16 днів тому

      What vans honda make ???​@@keithhooper6123

  • @zingo2664
    @zingo2664 17 днів тому +37

    you should be on tv, you are better/more knowledgable than most i have ever seen on tv

  • @savinggrace70
    @savinggrace70 15 днів тому +22

    I have a Peugeot 206, 1.1, 2000 plate, it is 24 years old and still going strong. If its not broke don't fix it!

    • @npr1300A8
      @npr1300A8 11 днів тому +4

      My partner has a V reg 306 and although she doesn't do many miles in it, nonetheless its outlived my 2021 3008 Hybrid that broke down after 11 months from new! I now have the 1.2 Puretech Rifter. I'm not mechanically trained but even I think that to have a timing belt go through the hot engine oil seems a poor design?

    • @dzonikg
      @dzonikg 11 днів тому +2

      I have peugeot 206 CC year 2002 1.6 ,i never refiled oil in its lifetime .I dont drive any more ,its now standing in the yard becase i dont want to sell it and it worth nothing but even after standing for 4-5 month its starts on half key .And in 22 years i change cambelt ONES ,it was in 2010

    • @jorgex1604
      @jorgex1604 11 днів тому

      These were the best. Even the tv commercial for them back then was really good lol

    • @xXturbo86Xx
      @xXturbo86Xx 11 днів тому +3

      The older the better.

    • @jungtran4990
      @jungtran4990 7 днів тому +1

      @@xXturbo86Xx
      You named it... We/I had 4 Peugeot, 604, 1978; 505 STI, then 505 Turbo (not as good as other) and Peugeot 405 (1989) Cost me less than 10k Canadian Dollars$; and I drove them since 1996 till 2008. The 1984 505 STI was the best if it were not that the Contract Workers used it and destroyed the Trans... We/I would have driven until now... I have seen a Peugeot DL 1986 still ran like a charm form a Man in the City...
      Government and Politicians should stop making Bad Choices and Bad "Inconvenient Truth" like Al Gore and Elon-gate about C02 Emissions,,, Don't believe in that causing Climate Change.... Citizens of the World have to drive less and Walk/ Bike more to keep Good Health like the Japanese and South Koreans.
      C'est La Vie 💏 💏

  • @Splitscreen83
    @Splitscreen83 9 днів тому +6

    Had it for nearly 3 years in a 2021 208. Absolutely zero issues and used no oil.

  • @pauladams5673
    @pauladams5673 11 днів тому +11

    We've had two cars with this engine and both have been very reliable and durable.
    One car is on 85,000 miles and the other has 40,000 miles. No problems.
    I think the issue is as engines become more efficient and less polluting than they used to be, oil and filtration is much more critical.
    I suspect the wrong oil is being used.
    Although, I'm aware of the cambelts breaking down on early cars, there is no longer an issue.
    We changed our cambelt at 65,000 miles.

    • @contraplano3157
      @contraplano3157 5 днів тому

      They pollute and Will be always ineficent

    • @JacobianMatrix9
      @JacobianMatrix9 4 дні тому

      What model are those? 2020+? Thanks!

    • @pauladams5673
      @pauladams5673 2 дні тому

      @@JacobianMatrix9 Peugeot 308 SW 2016 & 308 2018

  • @bojanstojanovic5465
    @bojanstojanovic5465 9 днів тому +15

    I have Peugeot 205 with TU engine, great engine and very reliable.

  • @jcmc60
    @jcmc60 17 днів тому +62

    1.2 Peugeot owner here on 18 plate. Cam belt done at 53000 no oil burn, fingers crossed. Dealer was well aware of issues with engine not charged for sump removal and engine internal clean. Always changed oil earlier than recommended.

    • @iankemp73
      @iankemp73 17 днів тому +4

      Same...66 Plate 108. Extremely low milage 33500 miles. Cam Belt done last year . £399.00 local Peugeot Independant. So far faultless .

    • @S-Ltd1000
      @S-Ltd1000 17 днів тому +7

      Don't kid yourselves. These engines are not designed with longevity in mind.

    • @confederatenationalist7283
      @confederatenationalist7283 16 днів тому +1

      @@S-Ltd1000
      1 horsepower per cubic inch was the benchmark for durability.
      100 hp per litre or more is race engine type outputs.
      The old race engine doctrine was we can guarantee it will start and we can guarantee it will blow up/fail in a big way.We can't guarantee the time period in between.But the best race engine is the one which blows up as it crosses the finish line.Anything longer than that is under stressed.
      Call it 45k-50k miles.

    • @confederatenationalist7283
      @confederatenationalist7283 15 днів тому

      @@CandyMan2001
      How many Toyota's and Honda's made over 100hp per litre ?.I'd prefer
      a Range Rover or Discovery with a Ford 302 V8 over any Land Cruiser.
      If not a Chevy pick up with a Detroit 6v53.

    • @confederatenationalist7283
      @confederatenationalist7283 15 днів тому

      @@CandyMan2001
      Obviously a 200hp 8,000 rpm screamer isn't going to be much use in providing over 300hp at 4,000 rpm.
      Either way a good big V8 beats a small 4 or a 6.
      So Ford Cosworth DFV v Honda 2000 but for some reason Ford chose not to put it in the MK1 Cortina.

  • @fulf
    @fulf 15 днів тому +11

    I have worked at peugeot dealer in Sweden.
    Its usaly the turbo engine that have timing belt faults.
    My guess is that the oil runs hotter.
    Every service we measaure the with of the timing belt throug the oil filler cap. Even if its not cracked it can be to wide.

    • @MattyEngland
      @MattyEngland 7 днів тому +1

      Yeah that makes a lot of sense, most turbos drain oil straight into the sump, so would definitely be a lot hotter than a NA engine

  • @baylessnow
    @baylessnow 17 днів тому +61

    I bought a 1.2 2008 Puretech in August 2023. Only after that did I find out about the internal wet belt (!) and the clogging of the oil pickup strainer. Checking the paperwork that came with the car, it has already had a new oil pump and belt fitted not long after its first owner bought it. When I get rid of this car (I'm keeping it for 2 years max) I'm going back to a 2nd hand Toyota! Oh, the cheapest "correct" oil I could find was a pound or two shy of £50, with a discount code! £500 for a cam belt change?!!!! Oh how I loved the old Ford SOHC engines.

    • @keithkeeble7483
      @keithkeeble7483 16 днів тому

      Honda are also having problems with there three cylinder engine wet belt and I think it's a ford block with a Honda head on it

    • @dietznutz1
      @dietznutz1 13 днів тому

      ​@keithkeeble7483 ew honda shame on you, 3cyl ford is the worst engine made in the last 20 years

    • @x.kasiouris5503
      @x.kasiouris5503 8 днів тому

      For this reason I went to VW group bought a Skoda Fabia 1.0 tsi I know it's not a toyota but the tsi 1.0 nowadays seems to be pretty robust and since I am not really pushing it to really high rpm I believe I will be fine if I do reasonable maintenance it has a dry belt though I wish it was a chain

    • @william8108
      @william8108 5 днів тому

      My 1.0l eco boost is just dandy,cambelt showed little signs of wear,didn’t cost much more than a dry belt.

  • @andyhowlett2231
    @andyhowlett2231 14 днів тому +11

    I've owned a Citroen c1 Mk2 1.2 litre puretech 82 hp for 5 years and it hardly burns any oil. I had the wet cambelt changed at 31k miles, the engine cleaned/flushed and I've had no trouble. It's a great little engine, lots of torque and the car leaps away from the lights.

    • @brunobaressi9919
      @brunobaressi9919 12 днів тому +1

      Motore terribile

    • @andyhowlett2231
      @andyhowlett2231 12 днів тому

      @@brunobaressi9919 How? 31k miles with no trouble, how is that terrible?

    • @osa-mv4iv
      @osa-mv4iv 8 днів тому +1

      ​@@andyhowlett2231 They got problems becouse they dont check is t servise reely change oil and oil filter an ist use proper oil

    • @andyhowlett2231
      @andyhowlett2231 8 днів тому +5

      @@osa-mv4iv That's a problem with service, not the engine. Any engine will give trouble if not serviced.

    • @jungtran4990
      @jungtran4990 7 днів тому

      @@andyhowlett2231 True... We/I had the Subaru Legacy 1992 Model; Everything Original, except Timing-Belt changed in 2019 and 2 CV Axels = as Boxer Engines wear out CV Boots/Joins faster than Regular Straight-Inline 4 Engines.
      We/I changed oil 🛢 🛢 = bought Bull Load every 3-4 Months by myself since 2005; I never cost me anything else but Gasolines (I changed Radiator Coolant Every Summer End)
      The Subaru Legacy was stolen last May 2023 otherwise, would have been in the Parking Lot and Driven still...
      Change Oil and Coolant more often and you can drive any Japanese for 30 years... Like the 1992 was 31 years,,,
      C'est La Vie... 😂 😂

  • @9256steven
    @9256steven 17 днів тому +19

    I dodged a bullet with a 1.2 Peugeot 108 from Arnold Clark. Can you imagine the heartache I would have had, I found out just in time. I am keeping my old 1.2 Corsa twin-port which doesn't ever burn oil and has a chain drive for the camshafts.

  • @lithlander
    @lithlander 17 днів тому +16

    Had cambelt changed on my 3008 on 18 plate only 36000 miles .took Peugeot four months to repair car and yes serviced by Peugeot from new

  • @GeoPrice
    @GeoPrice 17 днів тому +14

    2018 Vauxhall Crossland with full dealer service history, owned from new, 48,000 miles and major issues with wet belt in December 2023. Dash warnings, no oil pressure etc. Vauxhall replaced the wet belt under warranty even though the car was out of warranty. Cost of repair was listed as £2500. Now traded in and out of our hands.

    • @kingsknightuk
      @kingsknightuk 16 днів тому +1

      how the hell did you get Vauxhall to do it out of warranty??? my best friend has a newer crossland X and he has been told his parking sensors are not part of his warranty. that randomly go off all the time when your pulling away!

  • @ingopaul67
    @ingopaul67 17 днів тому +202

    It's almost as if car manufacturers have forgotten how to design reliable engines.

    • @simonh870
      @simonh870 17 днів тому +56

      They were fine until emission regulations forced them to downsize and add complexity.

    • @worldhello1234
      @worldhello1234 17 днів тому +44

      If you have to meet crazy emission standards on a fixed budget, reliability takes a backseat. 🤷‍♂

    • @woolychewbakker5277
      @woolychewbakker5277 17 днів тому +8

      They are making EVs now 😂

    • @matthewgodwin3050
      @matthewgodwin3050 17 днів тому +23

      @@woolychewbakker5277 ......that nobody wants.

    • @jimmyjt16
      @jimmyjt16 17 днів тому

      So basically the emissions regs have caused manufacturers to build these crap engines that aren’t reliable, burn lots of oil and generally aren’t very efficient. Makes sense.
      Hardly saving the planet is it.

  • @paulriggers1558
    @paulriggers1558 17 днів тому +42

    main dealer tec here, we sell ex. motability fully serviced 3yr old cars, belts failing after less than 40k miles, done 3 this month, oil lights on... 1.2 pureshite motors

    • @user-rf2qt8ou8w
      @user-rf2qt8ou8w 16 днів тому +7

      As a former vaux dealer employee workshop full of new engines in crates awaiting fitting and one tech spent weeks purely swapping engines in various models some not even very old. Although Vauxhall had had their own past issues as all car makers do from time to time since GM ditched the brand to Stellantis they have I feel destroyed years of loyal Vauxhall customers who trusted the brand and the dealer network, and frankly who would never have considered buying a French car because of their unreliable reputation, its a thought that how many long standing Vaux owners have now jumped ship when they now realise the true vehicle behind the griffin badge.

    • @volvodaft
      @volvodaft 15 днів тому +1

      I have a 2021 vauxhall combo life 1.2 3 cylinder 8 speed auto on mobility, its just turned 46k and not had a problem with the engine, but don't get me started on the electrics 😮 thank god it goes back next month after having it 3 years, and seeing this video 😢

    • @grigorig8403
      @grigorig8403 14 днів тому +1

      ​@user-rf2qt8ou8w I think you are right in 99%. But GM also failed with their downsized 1.2 litre petrol engine LIH in facelift astra where people including are having issues with crankshaft and this engine has also belt in oil... There would be no any better engines in these cars today...

    • @muffindell
      @muffindell 14 днів тому +4

      Vauxhall 2.0 turbo diesel engines seized up from oil pump failure or just a simple £2 oil pickup seal made from the wrong material is a normal thing that happens before 100k, not forgetting the M42 manual gearbox that is made from chocolate and will also always fail. Yeah, Vauxhall have previously had their own issues so nothing new.

    • @chrisbarlow4356
      @chrisbarlow4356 4 дні тому

      What's your opinion on the newer puretech engines with timing chains?

  • @bryanadams4436
    @bryanadams4436 17 днів тому +30

    Cracking podcast as usual Lee another electric car fire this time in Bristol, Patchway Vauxhall dealer hell of a mess took out other cars and vans

  • @Wiltshire-observer
    @Wiltshire-observer 17 днів тому +17

    As soon as engines started to go 3 cylinder, I thought it was a bad move. Getting more power out of less cubic inches has to come from somewhere, so compromises happen. I remember the original Top Gear trio lauding up Ford’s eco boost when it launched. Within two years the engine was known a junk.

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl 17 днів тому +3

      International engine of the year in 2017. Lasts about three 🙂

    • @Haawser
      @Haawser 17 днів тому +14

      It's not the number of cylinders that's the problem. Example- The Aygo/C1/107 have a 3 cylinder, but that's widely regarded as almost bulletproof (given regular oil changes). It's wet rubber belts, high boost pressures and trying to squeeze ridiculous power out of small engines that's the problem.

    • @cjsutcliffe
      @cjsutcliffe 17 днів тому +5

      Ain’t no replacement for displacement…

    • @user-me3go4ku8z
      @user-me3go4ku8z 17 днів тому +2

      Toyota and suzuki 3 cylinders are bomb 💣 run forever

    • @dzonikg
      @dzonikg 11 днів тому

      @@Haawser That are very very small cars ,compare them with Peugeot 408 in size

  • @kevinturner2455
    @kevinturner2455 17 днів тому +24

    Thanks for the information I was looking at a Peugeot 2008 but I'll not bother now. Cheers 👍

    • @dartskipper3170
      @dartskipper3170 12 днів тому

      Look for a slightly older late model 406. I had two as company cars. Very reliable and never burned any oil. The first was petrol, second was diesel. When Jaguar wanted a diesel motor for the X Type they went to Peugeot for help.

    • @brudamoj738
      @brudamoj738 12 днів тому

      LOL you are so easy to be brainwashed. New Peugeot do not have this issue

  • @chrisblay
    @chrisblay 17 днів тому +24

    Designed to fail in my opinion. Good that you’re sharing the knowledge, for others to avoid these.

    • @alanpatterson2759
      @alanpatterson2759 17 днів тому +2

      They want you out of petrol and diesel cars!

    • @michaelclarkson2218
      @michaelclarkson2218 13 днів тому

      @@alanpatterson2759 I agree. My same thoughts exactly.

    • @alanpatterson2759
      @alanpatterson2759 12 днів тому

      @@michaelclarkson2218 There is a plan to take us out of these cars and put us in buses and trains.

  • @user-yc8dm5wm5z
    @user-yc8dm5wm5z 17 днів тому +18

    Travelled from Edinburgh to Leeds with my daughter and bought a Peugeot 208 GT LINE from a garage on the 5th December,vehicle ran ok for two weeks,in that time 1 litre of oil was added.After the 2 weeks the dash lit up with warning lights & little power.It sat at her work until finally collected (7th Jan) & after the garage checked it out,another 2 weeks,we finally were offered our money back( minus the cost for each mile we put on it) ,now purchased a Golf Diesel & garage changed belt & pump before purchase.
    Total nightmare........stay well away.

    • @livc444111
      @livc444111 16 днів тому +1

      Hope it's not the 1.6 tdi

    • @user-yc8dm5wm5z
      @user-yc8dm5wm5z 16 днів тому

      @@livc444111
      No it was the 1.2 pure tech petrol model

    • @fhm3762
      @fhm3762 15 днів тому

      French cars built to last for a couple of years, then they belong on the scrap heap

    • @theodhorzhobro4646
      @theodhorzhobro4646 4 дні тому

      ​@@livc444111i have the 2011 1.6tdi polo 140k miles still running pretty well

  • @michaelevans2975
    @michaelevans2975 17 днів тому +4

    Great practical video thanks 👍

  • @dabdabbers3594
    @dabdabbers3594 14 днів тому +3

    Good man 👍 just beginning to search for a new car with these size engines, thanks for the information it's appreciated.

  • @poseidon201
    @poseidon201 17 днів тому +2

    Great video, your knowledge is invaluable!

  • @johnashton4086
    @johnashton4086 16 днів тому +2

    Another big thanks from myself. Just bought an older but regularly maintained 43k 108 and will check the belt tomorrow. I will also be very careful with oil changes and keeping engine clean. A cracking car BTW. Lots of fun.

  • @richardsheil5289
    @richardsheil5289 17 днів тому +11

    Great video. Ihad a 208 turbo and improved oil consumotion by soaking piston tops with acetone to clean the rings. Once the acetone drained into the sump i changed the oil before startup. This improved the consumtion to about a third of its original rate. Now getting around 2000km before needing a top up which is still high .

    • @carukchannel
      @carukchannel  17 днів тому +4

      Good idea, the build up on the rings is a big issue. Not helped be being a GDi type engine.

    • @richardsheil5289
      @richardsheil5289 17 днів тому +3

      @@carukchannel Thanks Lee. Strangely the turbo is direct injection but the regular 1.2 has injection through the valves. I think they are a good engine but realise it is a minority view.

    • @Fredje045
      @Fredje045 11 днів тому

      2000km and you already need to top up oil? Are you sure it is not a 2 stroke lol

  • @marknicholls4133
    @marknicholls4133 15 днів тому +3

    Very good vlog as usual Lee. I'm off to Prees next week, glad you told us this about the pureshite engines, the missus wanted a DS. 😮

  • @PaulRFRT
    @PaulRFRT 8 днів тому +9

    Avoid all Stellantis group brands if you are looking for recent and reliable gasoline with after-sales service. Former owners of a 1.2L Puretech 110hp, we only had problems with: faulty segmentation, excess oil consumption from 60000 km, 1L every 1000 km, ventilation broken, belt in the oil to replace, speakers sometimes broken. We understood that keeping this Peugeot would be a financial pit. We sold it to a professional because Peugeot, well aware of the problems with their cars, does not do trade-ins.
    Thanks for the video

  • @davidwood7872
    @davidwood7872 16 днів тому +5

    Thanks for the advice, I have the Citroen diesel engine in a newish c3 and it was for that reason I avoided the puretec one 😊

  • @danhaywood5017
    @danhaywood5017 17 днів тому +13

    My E208 needed a new electric motor at only 3K. Peugeot had my car for 1 and half years trying to fix it. On collection Their was also a bad repair to the door were they damaged it. Will never own a crappy stellantis product again!

  • @jdmguy44
    @jdmguy44 17 днів тому +14

    I took delivery of a new Peugeot 2008 with the 1.2 130ps engine in December. Its on lease as my main/daily car. Was aware of the reputation of the wet belt design but not worried as I won't have it long enough to care (probably not beyond 2 years old). The thing is the car looks lovely inside and out, far nicer than the likes of a VW T Cross which I also considered. The engine is lovely to use to. Smooth, punchy and decently economical. In fact its probably one of the nicest 3 pot turbos out there to drive. I'm happy with the car so far.

    • @user-lt5co8qq1b
      @user-lt5co8qq1b 15 днів тому

      All French cars are pure shite don't touch one .please please please .loads of issues and will Rob u in repairs.

    • @tonyb1223
      @tonyb1223 15 днів тому +1

      Your car wont have a wet belt but a chain, ehat he hasn't told you that PSA changed the wet belt to chains around 2022 so you won't have any issues.

  • @adamfisher9751
    @adamfisher9751 17 днів тому

    Great video Lee, as always. Thanks for the tip off.

  • @lloydyboy8829
    @lloydyboy8829 15 днів тому

    I had a Vauxhall Granland X for a work car for a few weeks with the 1.2 turbo in it and I have to say it was remarkable. I was shocked with the performance of such a small unit in a lump of a car. Great for the first few years only by the sounds of it! Great video as always Lee.

  • @rsinuk9697
    @rsinuk9697 17 днів тому +3

    I had heard of these problems with the purecrap and ecoboom. Sadly I didn’t look too much into the R56 mini and have a blown engine in one 😂 (compression). I’m grateful for my Audi.

  • @kieransewell659
    @kieransewell659 17 днів тому +6

    Brilliant video Lee I had a 2009 Vauxhall insignia 2.0cdti the a20dth engine that also suffer with oil problems I didn’t know that at time well not until the oil pressure light came on and seized the engine the annoying part of it all I had cambelt +waterpump and clutch and dual mass all replaced the month before 😂😂

    • @dartskipper3170
      @dartskipper3170 12 днів тому +1

      I've had a Vectra and two Insignias with 2.0 CDTi motors. Only had to replace water pumps with belt change. None of them burnt oil. None smoked. I bought the last one when I retired. 140,400 miles on it, serviced regularly, still doesn't burn oil. You must have got a Friday afternoon model.😊

    • @dzonikg
      @dzonikg 11 днів тому

      @@dartskipper3170 I have Insignia 2.0 diesel 2016 ,now is 240k km ,replaced belt ,water pump and small chain on 200k km. .ITs more reliable car i ever had .Insignia before facelift (2014) have some problem with some seal ring so you need to change it after 100k km ,its 10 euro part but people forgot to change it and it made huge problems

  • @kenmoore589
    @kenmoore589 17 днів тому +1

    Very informative, thanks Lee.

  • @S-Ltd1000
    @S-Ltd1000 17 днів тому +2

    I had a 2016 308 GT line about 3 years ago. I loved the car and it was fine for a year and a half but at around 50k miles the stop vehicle engine repair light started randomly appearing. Code pointed to one of the vvt solenoids so had that changed, then a few months later the other one went. In the meantime I started to learn all about the wet belt issues and blocked solenoid valves is a symptom of a disintegrating belt. As soon as I got it back from the garage I drove to another dealership and traded it in on a Mazda3 skyactiv petrol which has been flawless. I'm still on the 308 FB group and it's a regular occurrence. Many posts from people that bought into these cars without researching the associated problems. Peugeot don't give a toss and will do everything to avoid fixing the issues unless you have a spotless service record. Apparently they have now redesigned the engine to use a cam chain but I'd never go near a Stellantis car again.

  • @greenzero3389
    @greenzero3389 17 днів тому +23

    If they suggest up to 250ml of oil per 1000 miles 5:47 Over 10,000 miles that's 2.5 litres of oil not 1 6:00 ?
    Up The Railwaymen 😆

  • @cookiemonster2299
    @cookiemonster2299 17 днів тому +6

    Think I'll stick with my 308 2.0 hdi, never liked the idea of the small 1.2 engine in something like a 308 SW and now you cemented my opinion. 👍❤️🇬🇧

    • @svr5423
      @svr5423 8 днів тому +2

      toyota uses plenty of small engines and they don't blow up :).
      I would simply not buy french car stuff.

    • @mnz97
      @mnz97 8 днів тому +1

      Those are amongst the most reliable engines out there. If you take care of them, they will last forever. Adblue versions have problems with the system but you can simply remove it and do a remap... you will be good to go for another 100k miles.

  • @ronjohnson1658
    @ronjohnson1658 Годину тому

    I drive a 2012 Peugeot 508GT 2.2 litre turbo diesel - brilliant car, with 325,000km on the clock. She returns 5.3 litres per 100km (53MPG) and does not burn any oil .

  • @jeta1f35
    @jeta1f35 12 днів тому +1

    Great informative video, thanks. Between this and the Ford Ecoboost fiasco this takes a huge number of cars out of the running if looking to buy a small, economical petrol car for around £4-5k from the pre '17 low road tax era. I work in the Ford environment, the going price for an ecoboost (3cyl 1 litre) wet belt replacement is around £1800!

  • @avit24
    @avit24 17 днів тому +12

    Well said brother!

  • @stuartwatson6345
    @stuartwatson6345 16 днів тому +4

    Had 14 plate DS 3 with 1.2 110 pure tech , cracking little engine . Changed oil every year with total ineo and put 40000 miles troubles free . Sold down to French dodgy electrics and faulty electric steering . Didn’t change belt in seven years of ownership , maybe I was lucky .

  • @stevenwilliams-mp5wo
    @stevenwilliams-mp5wo 16 днів тому +2

    Thanks for the info , thought my 1.4 vauxhall engine was crap but these sound worse will stay well clear noted

  • @sandewaldron
    @sandewaldron 10 днів тому

    Can't believe it! Just watched your video 21/5/24. Last Friday my 1968 Peugeot 2008 Allure Premium 1.2 started misfiring. Managed to limp back to supplier Arnold Clark. Told about the cam belt problem, minimum cost if minimum damage £1200. Did a deal on a 23reg GT Line with 4k miles on the clock, old one only done 35750. Thanks for the advice, I'll be getting the belt changed before the warranty runs out 🤞

  • @gap9992
    @gap9992 17 днів тому +18

    I recently rented a 208 130HP with the 8 speed auto on holiday in Tenerife. It was a great little car with very good performance and amazing low down torque for such a small engine. Shame about these reliability issues but hopefully they have fixed them now.

    • @brudamoj738
      @brudamoj738 12 днів тому +3

      Those don't have this issue. It is the latest verison od 208 you have driven. Problem is solved there

    • @aquilinorodrigo
      @aquilinorodrigo 6 днів тому

      Nope, rental companies still have the 2020-2023 version and NOT the new 1.2 Hybrid verison yet.​@@brudamoj738

    • @JacobianMatrix9
      @JacobianMatrix9 4 дні тому

      ​​@@brudamoj738Do 2020 model 208s have it fixed too?

  • @tonyyoung3634
    @tonyyoung3634 16 днів тому +5

    Got a 308 with a 1.5 diesel and 8 speed gearbox superb unit.

  • @user-sw1vb1fz7q
    @user-sw1vb1fz7q 8 днів тому +1

    I think the most reliable 1.2 engine is the one in Suzuki swift after 2010 it gives 50 mpg all day and is 94 hp with a timing chain and also the emissions are very low so the road tax is £35 per year. I have a 2010 Swift with this engine and it has done well over 100,000 miles and doesn't burn even a drop of oil the engine still sounds and performs like brand new.

  • @we-are-electric1445
    @we-are-electric1445 17 днів тому +3

    Another great video. Plenty useful information with a bit of entertainment thrown in !

  • @jaylangham1647
    @jaylangham1647 17 днів тому +6

    I have a 2016 308 with brake failure due to the cambelt breaking down , it’s on 45 k and hats off the main dealer it was all fixed under warranty even though it’s 8 yrs old ! It’s the 1.2 pure tech .

    • @jammy_rex3038
      @jammy_rex3038 10 днів тому

      Brake failure 😮😮😮
      Surely your confidence in the car will be shattered, I mean the same thing could happen again! I would get rid if I were you.

    • @maartenk7513
      @maartenk7513 День тому

      Yes, the vacuum pump can die due to lack of oil and that affect the brakes. Turbo failing because lack of lubrication can happen also.

  • @macraghnaill3553
    @macraghnaill3553 17 днів тому +1

    I have a 2014 1.2vti C3 which I bought new, had the timing belt changed this year, so far I have not had any problems with the car

  • @JeanClaudsDamVan
    @JeanClaudsDamVan 10 днів тому +1

    Thanks for the heads up Lee…We’ll add it to the list….Prinz puretech and eco post….Keep it coming good bud ….😉

  • @owensteele1645
    @owensteele1645 17 днів тому +21

    "Pure-Crap!" My Goodness, you know your stuff. I've just crossed a few other cars off my next-car list now. Cheers Lee.

  • @andypandy3352
    @andypandy3352 17 днів тому +1

    Top notch info, cheers bro 👍

  • @airchair73
    @airchair73 13 днів тому

    I'm disabled so I'm on the mobility scheme. I've order and in the first week of June it will be delivered a Peugeot 408 GT fastback 1.2 petrol engine.im glad I watched this to the end as it's put my mind at rest from the title of this :)

  • @brandywell44
    @brandywell44 12 днів тому +3

    You must use the correct SAE grade and correct ACEA spec for your engine. It is such a specific requirement nowadays. Mannol oil available on ebay is good value and should be available to your engines required spec. I prefer to do my own oil and filter change every year (around 2500 miles) to make sure its done right. A lot of MCC Smart cars engines failed because of non robust piston ring design being clogged and ruined by the incorrect spec oil.

  • @graemew7001
    @graemew7001 17 днів тому +24

    Slight correcton Lee, 250 ml per 1k miles means 2.5 litres per 10k not 1 litre as stated. To put that in perspective, my 13 yr old, Fiat on 122k miles uses 100ml per 1k miles/ 1 litre per 10k which is think is acceptable, I wouldn't be buying a wet belt engined car, no matter who makes it.

    • @dietznutz1
      @dietznutz1 13 днів тому +1

      Yeah, that's an insane amount, my fiat with 72k 1.2 fire uses no oil despite it seeing 5000 rpm daily, oil change every 5k no exceptions.

    • @graemew7001
      @graemew7001 13 днів тому

      @@dietznutz1 Mine is the 1.2 Fire too, a cracking little engine and I service mine every 10k and it never gives any problems at all. I don't know about rpm, mine doesn't have a rev counter but it does get some hammer in 3rd on slip roads to get up to speed, other than that driven gentle. I do wince sometimes when I do it, I think "weak gearboxes" and ease off lol.

    • @dietznutz1
      @dietznutz1 13 днів тому

      @graemew7001 if yours has the same ratio it's 30mph in 1st, 60 2nd, and 85 3rd, mine just threw some misfire codes, gone now and haven't come back 🤷‍♂️, I don't think 69hp and 100nm can break any gearbox

    • @graemew7001
      @graemew7001 13 днів тому

      @@dietznutz1 Oh I'm well safe then lol, I've hit 65mph on the speedo once or twice so about 60 in reality and changed up. There's a short slip road on my way home from work that needs a heavy foot in a Panda otherwise I don't do it.

    • @dietznutz1
      @dietznutz1 13 днів тому

      @graemew7001 yeah, more than two people in the car I'm done, put a cheeky homemade intake on it they sound pretty nice, premium fuel makes a little difference mine was pulling strong to 90 the other day, unheard of, had to let off 😂

  • @martin1125
    @martin1125 17 днів тому +2

    I'm starting to think the same as you, I've had all sorts of problems with these engines, emissions and the catalyst not working properly I've come across a few times. Trouble is there are so many cars they are in and they sell well. The job isn't getting any easier is it!!

  • @peterstanford9720
    @peterstanford9720 17 днів тому +1

    Excellent video. You have clearly shown how its the poor old second, third or high mileage owner that ends up footing the bill for what is frankly a poor design from new. I can't think of any other industry that would get away with it.

  • @Mr.Wrong1
    @Mr.Wrong1 14 днів тому +6

    I have had 5 cars in a row with these 1.2 or 1.3 engines. Never ever had any issues at all. Never failed me once. 🤷‍♂️

    • @alphatrion100
      @alphatrion100 13 днів тому +2

      5 cars since 2012. 🤡
      So only 2.4 years a car.
      How many miles?
      I bought a new honda in 2009 and i still drive it every day. Its at 150000 miles and uses no oil.

    • @Mr.Wrong1
      @Mr.Wrong1 13 днів тому

      ​@@alphatrion100congratulations

    • @alphatrion100
      @alphatrion100 13 днів тому +2

      @@Mr.Wrong1
      Thank you. Buying that car all those years ago was a great financial decision

    • @alphatrion100
      @alphatrion100 13 днів тому +2

      You SHOULDN'T have issues after only 2.4 years with ANY car btw. Hell, You should have any issues with a car after 5 years.
      That was my point.

    • @user-tq1qd3iu2t
      @user-tq1qd3iu2t 12 днів тому +1

      @@alphatrion100 Honda civic? Nice car and one I would buy new now if only they didnt only offer a hybrid which I do not want.

  • @glennstalley9195
    @glennstalley9195 17 днів тому +5

    My God! Thanks for this. I was looking at Peugeot 2008 or the Ford focus eco boost. In fact I was going upto Manchester to buy a Ford focus eco boost this weekend. Thanks honestly, I'm not going anywhere near it now.

    • @waskus
      @waskus 11 днів тому +1

      If its the 1.0 Ford eco boost engine, that has problems too😉

  • @scottlp2323
    @scottlp2323 13 днів тому +4

    I've had a 2017 308 1.2 Puretech 130bhp since 2018. Only on 29,000 at the moment. None of those issues yet, touch wood. Had a Peugeot recall last year specifically about the cambelt. They checked and it was fine. I know that engine has had different types of belt in it's lifetime, some more trouble than others and I think they are now chain driven. I haven't had a dealer service for a couple of years due to lack of funds and a lot less miles travelled. I'm still under 10,000 since the dealer service but I think I'll be sorting that myself after watching this. I have an MOT in a couple of weeks. I may enquire about the cambelt too if it's around £500. It's been a cracking engine so far. Low down torque like a diesel but lot's of rev room too, although I rarely need that as it pulls well so low down.

    • @PiotrPilinko
      @PiotrPilinko 12 днів тому

      I have 3008 with 1.2 PT 130hp (2019) - no problems with a cam belt. My wife has 208 (1.2 PT 110hp, 2017) - cam belt had to be replaced after 37k miles. Now it has about 57k miles and is running fine (but it requires about 1 liter of oil after 6k miles).

    • @andgate2000
      @andgate2000 11 днів тому +1

      When u get to 250k mls....( camry 2.5) with no issues...then u can call it reliable.

    • @leneanderthalien
      @leneanderthalien 11 днів тому

      A new belt was introduced in march 2017...I have a 208 puretech 110 automatic gearbox (the 110 is the same as the 130hp except programmation and exhaust pipes diameter) and at belt change after 100 000km was the belt in correct state (i make oil change all 10 000km, not 25000 as planed...), and oil pick up was clean, but oil consumption rise progressively up sinze ~60000km and at 110 000km was the oil consumption at ~1L to 2000km, and... at 115000km did the engine blow (hole in the piston n°3), engine replaced for 6000€, hope it hold...

    • @mnz97
      @mnz97 8 днів тому +1

      @@leneanderthalien Carbon buildup because of direct injection. It can damage piston rings. These should be cleaned regularly. Walnut blasting might help prolonging its life.

  • @thomaswalker1258
    @thomaswalker1258 17 днів тому +4

    Apparently from 2018 and newer they used different and cheaper materials therefore the 2018 and newer cars will break more easily. At our dealership we had 3 1.2 litre engines go within a month. You will also find soft discs and pads too on the later models. Really any Stellantis car you want to avoid that now also includes Alfa Romeo, fiat and jeep. Also I think Vauxhall have put a 10 year warranty on the wet belt because of this reason so if it breaks after the warranty it should be covered

  • @thatsentertainment5602
    @thatsentertainment5602 8 днів тому +3

    The 1.6 Turbo PSA petrol engine from 2012 also has issues like oil burning, leaks, smokey turbo, weak engine mounts and more.

  • @MrDuncl
    @MrDuncl 17 днів тому +3

    I wonder if the problem is related to people using cheap oil. I made that mistake with my Vauxhall 2.2L Ecotec. The more oil it used the cheaper the oil I bought for top ups. Only recently (years after I scrapped the car) did I read that cheap oil clogs the piston rings causing high oil consumption.

  • @ChrisBrown-xf2ce
    @ChrisBrown-xf2ce 17 днів тому +1

    In the drive for lower emissions via increased fuel economy, piston rings with lower tension are being used to reduce engine drag. The problem is, during the compression stroke the ring can be forced closed (compressed) on one side opening a gap between the ring & piston on the opposite side. Over time it gums up the ring in the gap & the ring wears away at the cylinder sleeve in that particular spot allowing an ever-increasing amount of oil to pass the ring & begin to be consumed during combustion. Toyota 2AR-FE engine had the oil consumption problem from low friction piston rings

  • @Darkelf7201
    @Darkelf7201 16 днів тому +1

    Amazing Lee. Why oh Why did anyone think that wet belt system was of any use. Even the AA man told me, when they first came out, watch all the crap get sucked into the strainer and cause engines to fail. That was on a Peugeot we had at work lol :) Awesome video. At least you let people know what NOT to buy or at least be cautious :) Thank You!!

  • @rhysstatham7407
    @rhysstatham7407 17 днів тому +3

    I owned a 2019 1.2 turbo Citroen berlingo from new loved the car no issues but I only covered less that 10.000 miles had it serviced every year . I now own a new Ford transit custom 2 litre diesel, yes with a wet belt so out of the frying pan and into the fire 😂

  • @adamsaunders9876
    @adamsaunders9876 10 днів тому +2

    Positive post.....my wifes ds3 owned from 4000 miles to current 45000, changed oil every year 5000 miles ish, changed belt at 40000 and still like new!! Never had any problems, burns no oil , great on fuel and 110 bhp goes well , feel like we have been lucky now

    • @PiotrPilinko
      @PiotrPilinko 8 днів тому

      My wife has Peugeot 208 (2017) had to change the belt at 37k miles - but that's it. I have 3008 (2019) and have no real problems with this car: just changing oil every year. And I have no problem with rust (which I cannot say about my previous Japanese cars).

    • @antoniomiranda5727
      @antoniomiranda5727 7 днів тому

      Have 2 1.2 non turbo from 2023 with 45k km each. No issues at all. belt is still the original.

  • @peterdavis3934
    @peterdavis3934 17 днів тому

    Great information thanks. 👍

  • @megapangolin1093
    @megapangolin1093 15 днів тому

    Cracking, helpful information. Thanks for alerting us to this horror and giving such a clear explanation of the situation. I hope that Stellantis is taking on board the fact that people are seeing this video and not choosing to buy their cars. I most certainly would not. I have had several French cars in the distant past, but never again, same with Ford. Thank you for this, now subscribed.

    • @user-tq1qd3iu2t
      @user-tq1qd3iu2t 12 днів тому

      I have had a load of Peugeots and Citroens, old 2008, new 2008, new 3008, C4 cactus and C3s and not been let down once in any way by them. Toyotas failed on me twice, new ones and a VW Golf was worst built car I have ever driven. Each to their own. Maybe I will try a Honda next but they have screwed those up now by only offering a hybrid Civic which I wouldnt touch with a barge pole.....unless its the type R which would be nice but hardly necessary.

  • @skrimshanker1
    @skrimshanker1 17 днів тому +5

    spot on Lee, great vid..Pureshite is closer to the truth..

    • @carukchannel
      @carukchannel  17 днів тому +2

      Yes I was being polite 😁thanks for watching skrim

  • @georgefeaton7341
    @georgefeaton7341 16 днів тому +8

    My son bought 2018 peugeot 3008 with this engine and it had wet belt problem after having it just over a year .he got in touch with a peugeot dealer who inturn got in touch with peugeot and because he had full service history they fixed it for free new belt oil pump ext .even though car was well out of warranty. So its worth speaking to your dealer you may just get it fixed for free

  • @dunderhay9169
    @dunderhay9169 14 днів тому

    Interesting, thanks, I didn't realise we could check our belt so easily. The belt issue is annoying, but our dealer has already warned us to do it early. Piston ring issues in my experience are usually due to hard use of a cold engine, I always make sure to warm my engines before driving hard. We are on our second Cactus and so far neither has needed any top ups between annual services at about 8000 intervals.

  • @hodgheg
    @hodgheg 17 днів тому +1

    About a year ago for a friend I checked out a 19 or 20 reg Peugeot 2008 for sale at a main dealers, it had this engine with less than 20K miles on it and it sounded terrible, making a sort of pinking sound but I couldn't tell the cause. All the pimply youth of a salesman could bluster was that they did a 160 point check on each car before sale, like that was going to fill me with confidence. Friend ended up with a newish Kia Xceed. No problems at all.

  • @paulillingworth1242
    @paulillingworth1242 17 днів тому +4

    Sounds much like the Ford EcoBoom unit, old PSA XUD TU engines were brilliant had them years ago, currently have a chain drive Ford petrol, doubt I’ll be swapping it out for any with these new exploding sewing machines.

  • @karter5351
    @karter5351 17 днів тому +5

    Agree, I had a Vauxhall Grandadland on. 20 Plate, can't to me on 38k from a daily rental fleet through a leasing company. It liked a drink of oil. A bit of a misfire sometimes and then at a nays under 60k it started throwing 'oil pressure failure messages' when cold. I googled it and found 'Der Cambeltun Schitzunselfun' as they say down the Opel Film Club. The Belt In Oil, BIO degrades and blocks the oil pick up. Daily rental fleet wanted to change the oil and filter. I refused to drive the thucking fing 1000 miles a week because it would have been me stood on the hard shoulder when it grenaded. AA towed it off into the sunset. 5 months later, it's had a owner change (V5C issued) and it was on and off sale, taxed, SORN and now untaxed. I reckone the daily rental offloaded it, poor dealer bought it, MOT'd it and sold it only to find it went 💥 Late Nov 2023 I waved it goodbye and we are now nearly six months later and it's still untaxed

    • @dzonikg
      @dzonikg 11 днів тому

      Its reason i want change Opel (vauxhall ) Insingia 2.0 diesel 2016 any time soon .Now is 240k km on clock ,i changed belt and small chain on 200 000 km and that is it,no oil consumption and anything like that .Why people buy newer stuff in they are inferior to older ones

  • @rodgoth3249
    @rodgoth3249 14 днів тому

    very interesting, great explanation of the problem, did not realise that psa group used that system. actually bought a 0.9 captur and made sure it was a chain engine, but saw that the dacia was a wet belt. doubt i will change this car, as getting too old, but if i do will check the drive system. cheers rodders

  • @ladalout245
    @ladalout245 День тому

    Great commentary and knowledge from a seasoned professional. The oil consumption isn't just a problem with this type of engine, VAG group have also had horrific problems with some TSI/TFSI engines. Modern engines have to try and reduce friction in various ways to meet emissions standards and engineers design piston rings, cylinder coatings and cam propulsion systems to achieve it. The main issues stem from carbon build up, lack of, or incorrect maintenance, use of incorrect oil, plastic components becoming brittle or hardening with age and acids attacking internal components. The biggest problem is with vehicles that have mainly been used for short journeys at some point in their lifespan and this is true of many vehicles. Some engines are much worse than others but as a general rule of thumb anything with Japanese origins is likely to be better, if not immune to major problems. My advice is to buy Japanese and use a bicycle for short journeys if you can, then you will only have to worry about getting wet most days and getting run down and killed. 😂

  • @stuartrichardson5570
    @stuartrichardson5570 16 днів тому +7

    Agree totally. Bought a 68 plate pure tech 1.2. Went for 1st MOT failed emissions 55k miles. Had a service Garage said it was thick oil. When was it last service 10k. Also seemed to be continuously topping up oil every 1000miles or so bloody nightmare of a car. But for a 1.2 it was quick. High maintenance costly car.

  • @andyb2515
    @andyb2515 16 днів тому +3

    Have a 17 plate Citroen C3, with 1.2 PureTech, 25,00 miles. Excellent car, have never had to top up oil between regular services. Moved away from Citroen dealer as it was a rip off

    • @PiotrPilinko
      @PiotrPilinko 12 днів тому

      My wife has Peugeot 208 (1.2 PT 110HP, 2017) - cam belt has to be changed after about 4,5 years after about 37k miles. This car also had some "swimming" accident after a storm (in a underground garage) - cables on the floor were replaces: do rust for the last 3 years. It uses about 1 liter of oil for every 6k miles.
      I have Peugeot 3008 (1.2 PT 130HP, 2019): no problems with cam belt till now. And actually no other problems at all.

  • @gillysdiecastscrapyard4520
    @gillysdiecastscrapyard4520 17 днів тому +2

    Ex wifes Citroen with that engine, went into Citroën when the oil pressure light came on at 2 year old. They replaced the oil pressure sensor and gave it her back. 6 months out of warranty and total engine failure due to pick-up pipe being blocked. Citroen didn't want to know.

  • @blucz883
    @blucz883 13 днів тому +1

    My grandfather bough a Peugeot 206 1.6 Petrol (2000) before he died like 15 years ago.. That car still goes strong, the engine is absolutly awasome even at 240k km.. Then I bough my first car, A sedan Peugeot 406 1.8l Petrol 16v from 1999 so first year of facelift.. Again the engine had 190k km when I bought it and it has now over 200k km.. Only thing I dont like about my 406 is the fuel consumption :D But if you dont speed you can get around 7l/100km so that a OK.. But no engine failure, it just goes strong.. Even our mechanic that does servise on our cars since we had Skoda 120 in the early 2000 look at that engine and said its mint.. In really good shape.. Sorry for my bad english I writing this after long friday night and Im czech so Im trying :D

  • @davewatsit3740
    @davewatsit3740 17 днів тому +5

    The Hyundai I10 1.0 2014 also suffers from oil issues. It actively smokes and i believe that the oil rings have failed due to crank case pressure causing oil to be pushed into the combustion chamber caused by a failed PCV valve. Replaced the valve but the damage is done, as the 3rd owner its too late.

    • @carukchannel
      @carukchannel  17 днів тому

      Yes I have come across this

    • @bikeman123
      @bikeman123 14 днів тому

      Have a 2015 i10 1.0, no issues

  • @nicolassales8679
    @nicolassales8679 17 днів тому +7

    So what went wrong? We run a non turbo 2004 Citroen Berlingo with rocket ship mileage and looks like a teenager’s bedroom. Cheap to run and owes the planet nothing! Brilliant vehicle.

    • @jimmyjt16
      @jimmyjt16 17 днів тому

      Euro emissions regs forced them to make them. Not sure why they need to have a wet belt though? Basically the more emissions cr*p an engine has the less reliable they get. Madness.

    • @imrileth6618
      @imrileth6618 7 днів тому

      Older ones arent too bad. Peugeot used to have oil lubricated timing chains even tho they managed to screw up the tensioner in some models, but it was generally reliable system. Around 2013 they decided to get rid of timing chains and opted for oil lubricated timing BELT. Those things of course get shredded in the oil and block all kinds of important shit. Everyone wiht some common sense knows its a horrible idea to put belt in oil but peugeot still didi it.

  • @keijak1
    @keijak1 17 днів тому +2

    The Corsa F has been one of the best selling new cars over the last three or four years. This could be big as they are now reaching higher mileages. Popular on the 2nd hand market too.
    My wife has a 2 year old Corsa with the 100ps engine, just over 10k, a cracking little car to drive. I do keep a regular check on the cambelt. There is a Peugeot gauge you can buy to check the width of the belt. Apparently if the belt shows signs of widening its likely that has been contaminated by the oil.

  • @johnchincotta1qwdb15
    @johnchincotta1qwdb15 17 днів тому +2

    Hi Lee It's john from Gibraltar, I think you didn't mention another common issue in relation to these puretech engines and that is premature failure of a 7mm thick timing chain which drives the cams.But I also believe that the thickness of this chain in question has been increased to 8mm for additional strength and this seemed to have solved the issue.Any way Lee i would stay clear of both puretech and ecoboost engines which are both driven by wet belts.A strong and well built timing chain would probably be the solution to these problems on both the aforementioned engines. I think it's a no brainer.

  • @davidgreenwood5241
    @davidgreenwood5241 17 днів тому +30

    It always amazes me how these vehicle makers with years of experience can make these mistakes

    • @lastwalkaroundmirrorlake
      @lastwalkaroundmirrorlake 17 днів тому +5

      Whatever they can get away with, the majority of folk that buy these cars wouldn't be 'car' people or enthusiasts but common sense would tell you putting a 1.2 engine in a 7 seat people carrier it is going to struggle.

    • @brianboeing9799
      @brianboeing9799 17 днів тому +11

      Years of Experience 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂, biggest fools in Motor Industry
      Buy Japanese, period.

    • @davidjames-rp6oi
      @davidjames-rp6oi 17 днів тому +6

      @@lastwalkaroundmirrorlake built in obselecence

    • @jimmyjt16
      @jimmyjt16 17 днів тому +1

      Amazes me that they keep putting them in their new models. I guess it’s far cheaper fixing the small amount that fail under warranty than developing a new engine? Once out of warranty they don’t care.

    • @davidgreenwood5241
      @davidgreenwood5241 16 днів тому

      Ye I think your right

  • @martynmalone5813
    @martynmalone5813 17 днів тому +10

    Peugeot used to make belting engine , had a 306 1.9 dt xud engine from 97 , brilliant car, what's gone wrong with car makers these days , overpriced tat in my opinion :)

    • @carukchannel
      @carukchannel  17 днів тому +2

      Peugeots of old were Outstanding IMO, sadly these modern engines have let them down. However I do like some of the newer models

    • @bigmacntings7451
      @bigmacntings7451 16 днів тому

      they still do if you buy diesel

    • @bojanstojanovic5465
      @bojanstojanovic5465 9 днів тому +1

      Peugeot made the best diesel engines ever and thats a fact.

  • @johnmcmahon4364
    @johnmcmahon4364 17 днів тому

    Great information Lee, very interesting

  • @eegaugh
    @eegaugh 14 днів тому

    Very interesting; I had to look up PCV valve, though.

  • @kingsknightuk
    @kingsknightuk 17 днів тому +6

    thank god for you!!! People always say how bad the ecoboost engine is and never talk about the Puretech engine which is wayyyyyyy worse! At least ford fixed their problem and fitted a time chain now!!! The Puretech has soooooooo many problems it is unbelievable it made it into cars!!!

    • @josephberrie9550
      @josephberrie9550 17 днів тому +3

      the ford still has a wet belt drive for the oil pump ???????????????

    • @jdmguy44
      @jdmguy44 17 днів тому +3

      The Ecoboost is worse. The Puretech has a chain driven oil pump unlike Ecoboost.

    • @tomjardine100
      @tomjardine100 16 днів тому +1

      Depends how they are maintained

    • @kingsknightuk
      @kingsknightuk 16 днів тому

      @@jdmguy44 yeah its strange they kept the oil belt!! that being said, most of the issues you get with the eco boost engine is with the wet timing belt as it is much bigger.
      I dont understand why ford didnt replace both with a chain???? I've got the new ecoboost engine in my focus and i change the oil every 5000 miles like i have with my wifes cmax (which also has a ecoboost engine) and that engine is still running sweet as a nut. It has 74k on it and had its belts replaced! the belts that come off it looked fine, it didn't degrade what so ever!

    • @user-tq1qd3iu2t
      @user-tq1qd3iu2t 12 днів тому

      Strage cos its been faultless in all the cars Ive driven and Ive only broken down in toyotas

  • @agiugabenson7268
    @agiugabenson7268 17 днів тому +8

    Have a 2019 308 bought when 6 months old. Been main dealer serviced and no issues. Plenty of poke and relaxing on a long drive. If you look at forums then most engines of any type have issues eg carbon build up with direct injection engines etc. Get the bus if you are not prepared to properly service your car.

  • @2335lasermon
    @2335lasermon 11 днів тому

    great info........give us more !!! on any cars to avoid

  • @stewartbrown6869
    @stewartbrown6869 16 днів тому +1

    Brill video what chance to joe punlic have cheap parts but cost moneyyyy . Love the channel . Great man .

  • @leelee9788
    @leelee9788 17 днів тому +8

    We did the wet belt on my brothers 20 plate corsa it only had 38k on it so you'd think it should be OK but turned out we caught it just in time as it was perished badly