Why happiness seems to be declining | Peter Attia & Arthur Brooks
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- How our happiness compares to our ancestors
- Why you can’t compare happiness across countries
- How our social climate affects our happiness
- And more
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I'm gen X and remember much of life without social media, cell phones...I can say without a doubt these things have not made my life happier but more distracted.
What's stopping you from quitting those devices? For me, UA-cam alone is infinitely better than cable TV and VCRs.
@JarrodZhang I'm not arguing for zero usage, but when we have a "TV" in our pockets, it's too easy to reach for it every free second one gets. I also love UA-cam, but I keep aware of my time on it for sure. Cheers
GenX as well. As a house we’ve deleted everything except YT off phones 📱, and only use on laptops. Left Twitter in 2019. We started filling the down time with book reading on Hoopla, and just chillin’. Simply doing less is more fulfilling, productive than the mindless scrolling we’d normally have done for the past 10+years. Streaming service on a night or two, and sling YT another night or two feels good enough.
Me too.
It’s not as much that an individual is on social media, it’s that we all are.
On the flipside, I freakin' LOVE UA-cam! There are zillions of great lectures, classes, talks, and entertaining videos created by colorful, brilliant creators, covering every subject on Earth.
omfg....🤢🤮
Oh man, amongst the noise and the crap there's a lot of pretty good stuff here, but like anything else, you gotta look. I'm a boomer and I knew how to navigate a library and can easily find what I want online. Then again, I'm educated as an engineer. so I've always spoken Google, even before there was a Google.
Just like with anything, the tools can be used for good or bad (generally). I love having had a computer in my room since 3rd grade and being able to teach myself what the public school system and teachers would not.
Yes, but I’m on UA-cam hours at night because I’m lonely alone and bored. I want people connection over technology and yet I have a hellofa time getting anyone to look up and connect in person. Oy
@@BrightOne444 get a dog?
The problem is wages haven’t kept up. In the older days you could buy a house and a car and raise a family off one income and retire with a pension. Nowadays most people live paycheck to paycheck and literally have no money left to save meanwhile inflation keeps increasing.
So true!
Not to mention that many governments are in debt trying to pay previous pensions
The goal of inflation is to prevent people from creating families and increasing the population. Women don't want to be mothers and work outside the home, because it ruins the entire family structure. Without the creation of stable families, the entire community is destroyed.
ya want everyone to earn more so they can burn more carbon
@@President_NotSure no I want to be able to survive as a single person on one income
Work has lost much of its appeal due to the lack of ownership and loss of autonomy. A few generations ago, most worked as an owner of or in a small business. Workers had pride in their craft and much closer relationships with their employer/employees and customers. Those small businesses are largely gone, replaced by a few very large employers. These employers have no relationship with their employees, don’t trust them, see them as a cost to be minimized. The employees cease to have loyalty to the company and view work as merely trading time for dollars. This attitude has progressed beyond minimum wage workers all the way into the professional classes: doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc. We are all someone else’s servant, there’s no more calling, it’s just trading hours for dollars.
Absolutely when companies think of you as a number on a spreadsheet they are much more likely to exploit you and treat you poorly.
I completely agree!
Not only that, people worked in large industries in strong labor unions, along with worker owned cooperatives.
Wages were higher for the an average American-the standard of living has declined for most of us
I agree with most of what is said.
The world is just , Pimps and Hookers?
Most of your happiness has to do with the quality of your relationships. The other part has to do with whether or not you are living an authentic life according to your beliefs, values & convictions. Social media causes people to fall into the comparison trap. That leads people to feel insecure, less than & unworthy.
Social media destroys both of those things.
Agree that social media can make things worse, but I had those 2 problems of isolation & living inauthentically since high school in the 90s (so, toxic family system as the origin point)
I totally agree.
@@nataliaturner4845 I agree too
People get in relationships without knowing how to get what they want from their partner.. Or they're reluctant to admit what they want and just hope things will work out. They'll think that if they follow what other people do, then they'll end up satisfied. But then they wake up a month, 2 months, or years later and feel completely disconnected from the things that brought them joy before getting in the relationship. Most people are better off single and having good friends.
Edit: I assumed you were talking about romantic relationships
The 90s was the greatest decade for
1- Contentment
2- Health
3- Economic stability
4- Personal social connections
5- National political stability
6- Internet accessibility but contained in it's infancy.
I wasn't alive in the post WW2 decade but in my opinion, the 90s win by a landslide
@ninjacat508 How does it compare to the 80s in your opinion?
Freddie DeBoer had an article saying that the 90s was that good
I think people forget the malaise, and melancholy that was brewing below the surface in the nineties.
@@GeorgeLista In the 80's, there was sky high interest rates unlike the 90's. The 80's still had quite of few decent paying jobs for unskilled workers but by the mid 90's, that was pretty much gone.
On the many fronts, the late 50's and early 60's were the pinnacle. Any unskilled, high school dropout could land a decent job, buy a house, a car and raise kids. A college degree was worth it and really paid off. Personal social connections were much better than the 90's. People had connection with their communities and it was a family based society. Contentment was higher due to the aforementioned things. By the 90's, there was quite a bit of political strife though it wasn't amplified as it is today. In regard to health, people just didn't know any better as we do today. The 90's saw some of the highest violent crime years in the nation's history. We can only dream of the low crime of the late 50's and early 60's.
My high school golf coach used to say comparison is the thief of joy all the time. Glad I grew up in a time where social media didn’t exist like it does today.
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I heard something similar. Judging is the their of happiness
That's what I tell my boss when he says my co-workers are more productive than me
Remote work = 200% increase in happiness in the vast majority of people. The personal time saved from not having a commute is life changing.
YES! So much of this discussion was spot on but the point about remote work felt out of touch. Maybe it’s an age thing with researchers of a certain generation who bias towards remote work being a boogyman. Everyone I know who is remote loves it and actively seeks to continue working remote because it makes them happy.
Totally agree
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I generally agree with this. But “laying down roots” in the workplace doesn’t lead to happiness and it doesn’t happen because the average workplace treats their people like trash. Long hours, low pay, micromanagement, no recognition and pizza parties instead of bonuses. Can’t forget being forced to commute to an office just to log on to a computer and join a virtual meeting. Insane stupidity and unnecessary loss of precious time we can never get back. Think of the hours wasted “acting like you’re working” and commuting to be on virtual chats.
Modern office culture is largely responsible for unhappiness. Many people are much happier not going to the office and working remotely instead…and being away from people, because lots of people in this world suck. I’m infinitely happier working remotely. The only relationships I need are with my family and real friends. Not fake drama seeking/narcissistic colleagues.
Yeah…. They didn’t address this, but is it JUST social media itself or has modern internet made people more aware of how used and abused so many people are in this capitalist machine…
THANK YOU!!! The first comment I see with intelligence
@@rikmichaels9233Aitta is a McKinsey alum, you won't ever hear that from him haha
Absolutely agree. A good work environment free of drama, politics, and egos can do wonders for you, but a bad work environment can ruin your mental health.
My husband and I read books while he's working at home. So much more enjoyable than hearing the ladies scratch eachother's eyes out all day. He goes for coffee with guy friends a few times a month and we get out with the kids and get to church quite a bit. Good, solid, quiet life.
As an INTJ I can confirm, I will never return to an office or on-site job for the remainder of my life, even at 44 years of age. Socialization is exhausting especially when it comes to business profession. Limited, scheduled Socialization works much better for Introverts.
Same here
In Bosnia in one school a principal have banned phones(smart) for teens with approval from parents, some were arguing, but in the end all agreed. After observing them for two weeks teens started more communicating, socializing, smiling, unbelievble changes. So they have continued without phones. And more schools are adopting the same changes. 😊
Sounds very promising!
Working remotely has increased by happiness by so much. Yes I’m an introvert but beyond that its given me back hours a day that I use to go to the park every morning with my husband and dog, exercise every day on my lunch break and make dinner each night. I can’t help but disagree that working in an office made me happier. It was raining and expensive.
*draining
Having more control over your time and more freedom. What a blessing!
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Not going into the office 5 days a week has made me happier!
The main problem i see is we have so many avenues to pleasure now. You hardly have to live in a state of challenge or going without. That pleasure doesnt equate to happiness it equates to bondage and addiction that leaves us feeling empty
Instant gratification!
Attachment is suffering. Life is suffering. Love is anxiety. Everything we do is out of fear. In the end nothing matters. We are all on the sinking sinking boat that inevitably ends in tragedy. No escapes form this. Everyone gets a shot. Drop the ego and character you are playing and live. Tomorrow is not promised. Tomorrow does not exist. Now is all we have. When the brains dies consciousness dies. The End
I will add that meaningful pleasure such a relationships and housing is harder than the last 2 generations
Homelessness is at record highs.
We have instant pleasure at our fingertips 24/7. We don’t have to call friends or go outside - we can just open up our iPad . Tech is great but it’s made us so lazy
As an owner of a small farm, I feel that disconnection from nature is a big part of unhappiness. It was just 150 years ago when America was an agrarian society. Evolution is a slow process. The Industrial Revolution and new technology has grown faster than humans can adapt.
I feel for youngsters, and i suppose all people that succombe to the influence of social media. Im 62 and for my own sanity turn off my mobile phone at 8pm and back on at 6am. My kids complain that they cant contact me. Tough luck. Aim for a simpler life everytime .
I’m 40 years old and grew up in the mid 90s and am very lonely since I’m on the autistic spectrum
At least your kids attempt to contact you.
Mine are MIA.
@@PraveenSrJ01sorry about that i hate how this planet just casts outside people with disabilities and all we need too do the complete opposite but people don't care as long as it doesn't effect them
In India anyway people are casteist n racist @@perrycoffey5410
Definitely felt the "work from home and not returning" routine...extremely isolating and detrimental for someone who is single with no distractions or company, such as kids or a spouse.😢
Ignored the other major obvious factor…the rising income inequality from the late 80’s early 90’s continuing till today. Also the massive rises in immigration of that same period cutting down on social cohesion through a shared culture and creating more social hostility
This 💯
The best cure for that is to look at people individually rather than a culture
Yep and the wealth gap is only widening despite all the cries for “equity”..
@@CJ-ft9yo everything over your head. You understood nothing from 2 very basic sentences. My lord lady. Turn your brain back on.
I've found one of the best ways to take back happiness is design a more structured day and stick to it. Something that seems like a rigid personal schedule of habits and developments at first but becomes a much more authentic way of life and thus happier, surprisingly so. Being more engaged in personal aspirations and less of an observer is one key to happiness. Not doing jack squat = a void in life, a depression of living, a stagnation of the "body" of "water" (in a sense of lacking physical activity as well). Be the flowing river that provides freshwater for life.
I always find it odd that people strive for happiness when what they actually seek is peace.
America is against peace and has been for 60 years. Most Americans don’t even understand the concept
Preach on brother. I’ve been saying this forever. Peace and purpose. Happiness is a mirage
I dont actually seek peace.
Not peace. Survivability.
Same difference
I appreciate that 2:21 he says we should not compare countries. Having lived in Mexico City, Germany, a Spain and being an American of Mexican descent, I can tell you that Latino people and, and Mexicans in particular, are very happy and contented people. Why? Because they have perspective. They have deep history (Mexico has existed for thousands of years and the wisdom of the native peoples who lived in Mesoamerica lives on in anyone connected to the culture). They invest in family, in friends, in courtesy, in not getting bent out of shape for silly things, in forgiving, in accepting people as they are (including their children who may have not turned out as they wanted the, to)…they value nature, simple pleasures, good food, have faith in a higher power, respect their elders, appreciate their mothers (despite being a somewhat macho culture, they are a matriarchy). Lastly, they don’t let greed and money blind them. They maintain balance and a healthy dose of skepticism when someone is too wrapped up in what they own or what they do. In fact they will extend sympathy to that person, often saying they must be lacking something at home or something inside so that he has no choice but to focus on materialistic pursuits. They are happy with the basics and don’t feel the need to outdo or outshine any other country or group of people. They know how to love, live and experience life to the fullest.
There're many other factors besides social media contributing to the decline in happiness. Competition, materialism, rising cost of living, unemployment, lack of adequate housing, inadequate healthcare etc. also contribute to the downward spiral of happiness.
You are so wrong.. Happiness resides inside of you.. All these external circumstances cannot affect if you are happy or not..
@@andersnielsen6044you are so wrong. Our consciousness and, with it, happiness is directly determined by our material conditions. How could that ever not be the case. Otherwise it's pure idealism
@@NEILADAMS-lt6fz You are out of reach.. God bless you.
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Spent the last 10 years of my corporate career working 80% from home - loved it- so much freedom! Quit the corporate grind this year and now have time to decompress and build a happier life - now way happier than before! Life is a choice- i choose to spend time with no stress, working on health, relationships, balance, and trying to minimise SM. Oh and I think I’m a dog (social being)…. 😅
My grandma used to say when complaining abt some trivial thing that you think is life ending as you know it (your best friend had lunch with someone else etc) she’d say that’s your cross to bear. Since the 90s w the advent of computers we want instant resolution of our issues from insta cart to getting something delivered around the world next day. We have lost the ability to have patience. It’s a skill set that’s practiced doing things w your hands whether it’s doing handwork, woodwork or even cleaning your house the way grandma did it. Polishing the floor is backbreaking work but so rewarding when it’s done. Same with gardening, canning even fixing the car
I also grew up pre-internet, but I think impatience is a deeper problem with humanity (thinking of innovation races for economic superiority), and the internet was just throwing fuel on that long-standing fire.
March 20th 2020 is one of the happiest moments of my life. I got to stay home and did not have to deal with the bullying obligation of being with other people. Nothing makes me unhappier than social obligation of living in a world made for extraverts. This is pure hell for me.
Remote work is also great. Social media and the internet allow me to connect with the world and find like minded people to discuss similar topics of interests. I’m also grateful to live in an era where most humans are better off in terms of having their basic material needs met than any time in history.
I worry that this conversation is too prescriptive.
Ultimately, I think, happiness is a matter perspective and self knowledge.
If you know yourself and your needs, and you maintain a good perspective, none of the extrinsic factors matter all that much.
What do you mean social "obligation"? How much money do you get paid to socialize? ;)
@@devilsoffspring5519 you just made my ID drop 20 points 🙄
We have access to an over abundance of information. Ignorance is bliss.
Mankind never learns. One guy speaks contemptuously of hygee, or “cozy contentedness.” He’d rather have adventure. As far back as Homer, the poets have warned us against this overreaching. Odysseus thought he wanted adventure, too - and then suffered greatly for 10 years in his quest to simply get back home. In the long run, all happiness is perfectly balanced by an equal measure of unhappiness. But true contentedness is unshakable. You guys have a long, hard road ahead of you. I wish you well with your endless questing.
No. The happiness-unhappiness balance act simply doesnt exist in my opinion. If you are unhappy it is a sign from your nervous system that you need to make a change in your life. Happiness is our default mode of being as humans. We are so far removed from nature that we're just a fucking joke at this point. Its actually absurd, and in a way hilarious.
I appreciate your reply and wish you well. But you might reflect that your perspective that humans are an "effin' joke" sounds quite a bit like unhappiness, or at least a lack of cozy contentedness. I'm with you on embracing the absurdity of life, though. In my view, a contented acceptance of this absurdity (everyone we love eventually dies -- WHAT??) is the best we can achieve, at least long term. Chasing after giddy episodes of pure joy is, for me, equally absurd. These can't last -- we'd burn out our brains if we were in ecstasy 24/7. Joy comes and joy subsides. The same with disappointment and grief. But contented acceptance of life as it is, at least for me, is more sustainable and a heck of lot less exhausting. Best to you. @@blackpillfitness9136
I’m with you, as soon as I heard him say adventure I thought ‘this guy can’t handle his own mind for long’. I have a small life relative to others I know but it’s stable, comforting and peaceful. I seek out interaction with people and my community directly but also appreciate the utility of technology and have many people I consider to be friends that I will likely never meet in person. I bask in nature and enjoy its quiet and beauty while respecting its potential for violence. Same with people really. And every situation has a touch of absurd that you can embrace or be entertained by in order to cope with the downsides of life.
Endless travel and newness would be anathema to me personally but evolution and biology likely play their part in that.
Social media aside, it is because things are actually becoming objectively worse for most people. Economic inequality, public services, education, access to healthcare etc. You can smell the rot everywhere, it is not conducive to increased happiness.
Cell phones came along in the early 90’s. They are at the root of our addiction to social media and our lack of face to face human connection.
It's probably linked to personal freedom. In the 1970's people were relatively free but from the 1990s onwards our rights and feeedoms have slowly been eroded. Speaking freely today could cost your job and/or get you locked up. The work environment is now particularly toxic and utterly joyless.
Joyless …a key word!
As my father said at the dinner table 25 years ago when me and my siblings were talking about how old times were so simple and great…”don’t kid yourself, those were not the good old days!”
These are the good days….
Exactly, mind over matter, only let positive people in your life
@@wread1982 tf?
If these are the good days then god help us 10 years from now
If these are the good days then god help us 10 years from now
If these are the good days then god help us 10 years from now
Generation X is worse off from the boomers and all younger generations are much worse off. The purchasing power of the dollar has dropped to nothing. I would suggest that if today’s kids had the personal freedom and high standard of living with jobs that paid a living wage they would be less engaged with social media. I live in Canada and things are pretty bad here. Some of the most expensive real estate on earth, sky high food prices and a lack of bread winner jobs.
I work remotely and I absolutely love it. I love the time that I have to work on passion projects. I love the extra time that I have to spend with my family and Pets and I love the time that I get outside versus being stuck in a horrid cubicle. I love the uninterrupted focus that I can apply to my work. I don’t miss the toxic office politics I don’t miss the inane chatter I don’t miss the constant racket, The endless time wasted in non-productive meetings,, the smelly bathroom…
Don’t forgot the pot stash and meds that’s hidden in the cookie jar.
For me the last 15 years is understanding the science of the mind. Cognitive bias, natural selection, etc. is the cause. And why meditation is the key the pathway. We as individuals are responsible for our own inner peace and bliss. Attachments eventually will cause suffering. Attachments can be your possessions, environment and even people.
That's was one of the best talks about happiness.
Unhappiness seems to be a result of decades long marketing efforts trying to create discontentment and increase sales. And that's why social media creates social comparison, to simply drive sales. And although individuals can do things to help themselves, these are systemic problems that will not really be solved without systemic solutions.
I don't agree that remote work is causing a decline in happiness. A commute is very soul-sucking and the relationships in the office, if they are even positive, are superficial at best.
I know I’m 10 times happier working at home, but I have enough money I could retire right now
Yes, I'm happier now. Thanks to the information on internet brought to the forefront by people like Peter Attia my health and life in general is improving. Thank you.
Exactly 🙌🏽
The other thing contributing to loneliness is that people are too damn busy. Our jobs demand more of us, both parents are working, everybody's gotta be involved in all these activities and our responsibilities have exploded. It's exhausting and then you end up too tired to spend time with your friends and family because you're taking care of everything else.
Absolutely. And on the other side to prove your point as a shadow, I've lost opportunities giving time and effort to people instead of adding to myself directly with making money. Even listening carefully, picking up phone calls, or hanging out with people could have been used to make money. I guess I don't regret because I'm pretty diehard, but I agree. People are really overloaded.
Ehh to a point but I don’t think you realize how much time people waste scrolling online. While you have many people putting in many hours at work you also have many people just sitting around on Twitch or watching Netflix
My goal in life is not to be happy. My goal in life is to be fulfilled, and there is certainly a difference.
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Would you choose fulfillment if it meant you were miserable (intensly unhappy)?
Even as a baby-boomer, I have problems with their conclusions. Technology is both a blessing and a curse. I do believe that young people’s skills have not developed as well as it should have, but I also have relationships today that I never would have had in the past - due solely to technology. You adapt and move on. I find the physical layout of American suburbs to be a major problem, since it highly isolates people. Here in Ireland, where I live now, I walk everywhere and I run into the same people in town all the time. If we could blend technology with the right physical living arrangement, it would be the best of both worlds.
Human beings shouldn't be adapting to the presence of something that poisons us, we should be destroying it. Stop trying to hold onto your tech, it's pathetic. It's not going to be here forever just because you can't imagine life without it. You are weak, and it has made you weak. It doesn't benefit you in any significant way whatsoever. Whatever its given to you its taken three times as much. You desperately want it to work out because you are an addict, and that's what addicts want; to control their addictions. It's a paradox, and it isn't going to end well.
I am by no means an extrovert, but when I saw Facebook coming down the pike around 2008 I could see immediately that it would infringe on my privacy, my freedom and ultimately my happiness. Yet so many people seemed to love it. They followed it down the rabbit hole and here we are. I wonder why I was repelled by it instantly while so many embraces it with such fervor. In the end, it is the poison I intuitively knew it was. 😊
The 90s were in my opinion the happiest decade
@user-iv3vd9rb4o why do you say that? It was at least for me
I was in middle school and high school in the '90s so it was living hell for me. The music was good though.
I think the '80s were my happiest decade. Good music then, too.
I agree with most of this but I chose to be lonely because people today are more toxic and dishonest. They were not so bad when I was a child. Women today engage in a lot of reputational violence and men stab you in the back. People are intolerant of people with opposing views. People are envious if you are slightly better off and look down on you if your material standing is less than their’s
I miss covid lockdowns where my wife and I could just stay home. I love social distancing.
It has been difficult watching my friends and siblings puke their family lives all over Facebook, while I have struggled with the lack of a family (that I wanted at one time - not anymore) and a partner due to mental health struggles. It was truly awful during Covid, when it seemed like there was a furious barrage of dumping photos on Facebook, without a thought for the effect on isolated people.
I don't have a partner and family due to physical issues not mental, I try to read books and spend time in nature. I live in Ukraine, we still have missile attacks but I try to find joy everyday anyway. You should too!
Surely it's because with instant news and social media nowadays, we can all witness just how depraved mankind is. How can it not be depressing ? 🥺🌱
The problem is the news highlights the negative and gives us a super warped view of reality.
“These are unhappiness machines”
Yes . They give us a little jolt of pleasure but the rest is anxiety and malaise . I’m so glad I grew up without social media and smart phones
9-11 was hardly just a "blip" as far as how it affected people. I worked in a hospital as a social worker and the effects were very obvious. I noticed patients, their families, the staff I worked with, and even the doctors I worked with turn edgier, more irritable, ore stressed, and meaner. 9-11 was a major trauma. So was COVID, and people are likewise still acting out a LOT today. My local grocery store is a war zone for security; my pharmacist told me people threaten him and his staff and are acting like juveniles. People are also unhappy because we see the fakeness and juvenile behavior of our political "leaders"; it's nauseating.
Yeah, him saying that was a blip of the mind. It affected a lot of people, reorganized a lot of people, and definitely traumatized many. I remember when children started calling me a terrorist as a child myself. That didn't happen randomly. Thanks for standing on business.
I think that in large part what many like about remote work is simply working less. My days might be happier if I worked 4 hours without commute for 8 hours pay. It’s not that they would necessarily prefer to do the same work alone. More me time, running errands, and being with family are usually regarded as free time/time not working, rather than time working remotely.
I miss the old days when we dont have any idea how other people live their lives and there's this almost profound discovery when we finally get to see it in person, experience it, it is tangible, compared to now, we have a bird's eye view of how people live and we only experience it from a superficial level and that cheapens it.l, almost commercialize our way of experiencing people. Thats my take. I am slowly changing my internet habits.
I think lack of autonomy makes happiness go down. What do people actually own, what skills do they have? You work for a controlling corporation in all likelihood and their ilk have control over most aspects of life.
We are in our early 70’s and travel a lot. My 40 yr. old son travels much more than we do. He taught me that social media paints a picture of our world that just isn’t a real representation of reality. Simply put all mediums away and assume everyone is positive. Next, talk to everyone. You’ll soon discover that there isn’t anything wrong with our world. Just the world that is depicted on social media.
Remote work makes me happier since I can live where I want and meet more like minded people
Happiness is a moment in time.
Just don’t look at social media period!
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@@swerve361my point is that some people are deeply affected because of looking at social media and if they are they should do something else as a pastime.
1. Companies don't ALLOW most people to grow roots in their careers. Layoffs, downsizing, closing or moving offices. Is happiness even real ? Or is it a made up or manufactured word and emotion that comes from our expectations, perspective, and abilities to practice acceptance and gratitude ?
The fact that youre asking if happiness is even real is heartbreaking, whoever you are. Yes, happiness does exist. Lol. Fuck
Not mad at you i just am pissed that so many people are unhappy. Its fucked
I get tired of these videos because everyone is pinning the blame 100% on social media, it's not only unoriginal but it's not true. There's no discussion on the rapid demand in consumerism and people simply wanting more in life and not being satisfied; this existed decades before the internet.
So glad you brought up the legitimacy of church attendance as a factor. I grew up in the 60's and 70's and church was still a major player in community and friendship. Not sure if that decline was cause or effect, but it certainly was an important source of community attachment in those decades. Technology has certainly been the most prevalent force in our social decline. Scaling back usage and regulating access would be a huge step forward.
Happiness is a state of mind
For YEARS, I've attempted to get my (now previous) friends to get on the bloody PHONE--yes, a voice chat--for perhaps once or twice a month. They refused. There is no such thing as friendships nor relationships of ANY kind without vocal interaction. This isn't up to me, though. Therefore... I'm out. 💪😎✌ I don't care what ANYONE states, says, or writes, I ain't yer friend nor anything else if we haven't had a VOCAL CONVERSATION in over 3-6 months. No can do, sister Christian. Nope. Homey don't play dat. No, I can't go for that... nooo, no can do.
Wow, imagine if you had to live in a time with no phones and people sent letters to each other… be careful with your time limits and social rules/ultimatums… they may become an unwanted negative burden on you rather than the healthy life choice you think they will be.
@@GeorgeListaThat was pre-1970s. There is literally NO excuse for people to not have a phone call in 6+ months.
Can't argue with or deny any of that. No doubt it's gotten far worse with covid and how it was handled as a polarized, politicized, and weaponized issue.
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Attributing happiness to external pursuits is the core dilemma. There has to be a foundation of spiritual growth where one constantly improves their consciousness to the point where they have unconditional happiness. This means happiness regardless of wealth or external validation. The social media has hijacked minds with false ideologies making people think yachts, pools and girls are true happiness. And then their reward system and focus is taken prisoner and they’re constantly grabbing the phone for a fix.
Meanwhile they see all the pretty people living amazing lives and feel even further depressed. So it’s a double edge sword. Depression from FOMO and depression due to low dopamine baseline and lack of focus/initiative on meaningful goals.
A solution is creativity. Daily creativity slowly working on projects until the passion for these projects grows so much that it can replace the highs that come from mindless social media. Also daily meditation, starting slow, for years. 15 mins a day and slowly build up to longer sits. This will defragment the mind and allow you to become the true witness of experience and less triggered by fear, guilt, and shame.
A worldwide ban on TikTok and Instagram alone would increase worldwide content and happiness.
45% intro 55% extrovert here, full Ho for 4yrs. I hate working with people in the office - politics, lame jokes, meetings, awkward parties and chit chats. On the flip side, I really miss some friends, lunch out, meeting and talking to new/other people face to face, and exchanging random ideas. I guess the sweet spot would be 1 day/w at the office.
Well when you turn on the tv it's all bad shitty news and when we turn on social media it's how everyone is living a better life than you. Kinda hard to keep a smile when everything is telling you life sucks.
Media is made to make us feel bad instead of inform and entertain
It’s very simple because people, for some reason no longer have gratitude
Probably but Why is that?
Selfishness
“Happiness is just how you feel when you don’t feel miserable”
- John Lennon
"I am the walrus" - John Lennon.
Economic instability and anxiety’s about my career path’s uncertainty has caused me the most sadness. We have layoffs so often in society now that no one can feel safe or settled.
Thank you for this wonderful, deep, insightful, prophetic conversation!
I agree I don't have what society says is an exciting or fun life, BUT, I am healthy, have a job, and have perspective and empathy .
I'm happy to hear that, and it's kind of empowering. Keep staying strong.
As Roosevelt said “comparison is the thief of joy” which is why social media and technology is so bad for us
At 5.15 I personally think the TV has a lot to do with it. Everyone I know is glued to the damn thing - I am the only person I know that does not watch TV and have not done since the early 90's. It Christmas Eve and I'm home alone with my 6 cats luckily I love them so I don't feel lonely
I’m 57. Never been happier. Work out. Ride Mtb. Eat well. Meditate. Stay present. Avoid the news. Vapourise herb.
I love telecommuting & genuinely hate interacting with my bloodsucking coworkers.
Yup. We live a lifestyle now that destroys a sense of community and I don’t know how we are going to g to get it back. ❤
I think something horrible will have to happen before we get back to it. I hope I am wrong.
I’m very happy! Happiness comes from within though! Happiness also comes from real connections. It’s really simple, enjoy life, serve others, work hard, and be truthful to others and yourself.
Few people living today have the skills needed to survive on the African savannah as a hunter-gatherer in, say, 20,000 BC, about 8,000 years before organized agriculture kicked in. But if they had those skills, my guess is they would be happier, less stressed, more fulfilled. And that's just a guess.
Someone from that time frame would know nothing about surviving in today’s world respectively. The comparison is paralyzing.
They would have more ignorant as to how easy things could get by comparison to how they lived, but I don't know that it would be conducive to being more happy, you suffered more and died a lot easier back then.
Life span was 20 years old back then, you’d die pretty quick
I wonder if there is any studies or data that analyzes how people actually don't get along with their natural families a fair amount of the time. This may have been the case for millennia. And modern advances allow a person to live alone or at least NOT with their family. I know that in my family and some others the parents have this idea that they are ALWAYS the boss and ALWAYS know more... because they're parents... and for NO OTHER REASON. My family is chock FULL of narcissists, and think they've got it all figured out. But the Dunning-Kruger effect is VERY strong in all of them. My now-ex-wife is another that I didn't recognize for quite some time, because I loved her. I could go on and on. But, this is a big topic too. Incidentally, it was I who didn't like social media... ever. I adopted it late and dropped it early too... by 2017.
I noticed that Christmas doesn’t feel as exciting now with WFH. I use to get so excited with all my coworkers and we would walk downtown after work and look at all the decorations.
What's WFH?
Sounds simple but air conditioning has caused people to stay inside. Before they sat on porches and invited people for porch talk. Garage door openers cause people to disappear into their house. There are plenty more technologies that were designed to make life easier but made us less dependent on each other. Add the loss of dancehalls, rollerskating rinks, outdoor drive in movie theaters, VFW attendance and the like which have given way to basement video game play, big screen TV, Netflix and the like and here we are, or more like, aren’t! 😢
So many reasons- I seen a guy who claims our unhappiness is from constant noise. You don’t realize how much noise is around you at all times. It’s probably a combination of all
This modern crap.
Surely there must be other factors too. People today have much less buying power than they did 1950 1980. Climate change and leaders not doing anything about it can’t help. Fascism on the rise is both a symptom of worse wealth distribution and a cause of less happiness.
This has been my favourite episode of the podcast so far. The discussion on the three dimensions of happiness was especially good nye resting and I’ve shared the episode with several friends.
Whether one is happy or not right now misses the whopping point that we may be at a major inflection point, with change for worse societally.
Yeah, sorry the "dogs" need people around them all the time but i'm never going back to that office. If it made people so much happier, they'd have gone back. I'd be interested in the other explanations around Covid like increased anxiety, the economy tanking etc. Obviously the "dogs" explanation is we just all need to be around them.
It come to a lack of commitment to the betterment to our soul our body our family our community our world
I feel more connected with friends and family with social media, so I truly feel that it's low hanging fruit at this point to blame that on loneliness. Also, blaming remote work is a copout. Many workers feel so much more at peace with not having to deal with the stress of work place politics in person.
The people that I know are unhappy because companies have downsized so much that we have to do the jobs of multiple people or have to work more than one job to survive, so a lot of us are too burned out to socialize as a result.
And don't even say, "Just get another job". For the people who are looking for work, it is so hard to get a job that has been applied to by hundreds of applicants already.
The truth is, life is very precarious for people who were sold a dream of stability if they just do the right thing. The youth speaks up about these issues and the older generations dismiss their pain & struggles. That will cause a rift, cause loneliness, and separation between family members/friends as well. So many people do not take the time to understand each other anymore.
this guest is all over the place. Not an expert. Making his best guesses. where does he get that only seven percent of the population are introverts? That number is way higher.
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2008 was the year I graduated highschool, I remember taking a year off before going to college cause of the financial bubble bursting- what ultimately ruined my first year of college afterwards was definitely social media.
It's not just social media, though SM in general is my current best answer to the Fermi Paradox. The truth is "management" by catastrophe (the act of intentionally shaking the jar of bees to promote innovation) is destroying the ability for normal people to experience happiness or peace in the name of short-term profit.
Ignorance is bliss...today we get instant information and more...so it goes back to spirit and passion united with others ..
I work in a busy job and I take any chance to start talking to customers, as some never see people… and in 2 months I’ve met Cynthia Lennons friend, a lady that speaks welsh and knew my mum (lived 10 minutes away), and another welsh speaker (there’s only a 1,000 in Australia) and so many stories from around the world - I had my own business and talked to no one. I’ve noticed my mental health is way better. Initially I worked for myself and alone because of bad bosses. But we need people. There is one young girl that chats too and she is such a happy person. I only met 2 rude people and they were not so bad!
Authentic human life experience may be in the quickest and most despairing decline in the history of the world.
Humans manipulate nature. What we manipulate generally lasts. We dont. Thousands of years of humans existing and then perishing, but leaving behind their mark, has made the world into something it was not before we came along. We have taken a place that was authentic (Earth) and made it into one big strip mall.
Social media is the problem. Too many influencers not enough people that actually do anything but tell others how to behave
I enjoy social media…I have made friends through social media but I’ve also lost friends because of social media. I have also found a lot of information I wouldn’t have otherwise such as Dr Attia but you also have to weed through a lot of junk.
Listening to these two, one may believe obtaining happiness is rather complicated. I take happiness from the nature that surrounds us all, and I can teach you to do the same
The fundamental flaw of most of these ‘happiness’ chats is that the speakers often don’t or can’t define it, and when they do, their concepts are pretty flawed. When you find a concept of happiness that shows you that it’s within you and permanent, none of these talks will matter.
I'm a 29 years old woman, off social media for 4 years now. I can't build close friendship with people who live addicted to living through online avatar wars.
Excellent video good sir’s