Some are eluding to this but I think overwhelmingly the biggest risk with too much exercise is orthopaedic.Staying within the limits of what you can do mechanically is the challenge . Especially as you age .
Notice at the end he talked about the social aspects, stress relief, enjoyable etc. These are the underated aspects. Pick something you enjoy if you want it to stick.
Because I currently have knee pain, I have not exercised as often as I want. Yesterday, I went swimming for the first time in two months. After about ten minutes, I felt tired. A year ago, I could swim for about 90 minutes before feeling tired. Anyway, I continued through the tiredness and eventually swam for 60 minutes out of 70. By the way, I'm 77, and my weight is about 10 pounds more than when I was 18, waist size is about 2 inches more. My main point is you can always do just a little more.
The Cooper 1.5 mile Run Test estimates VO2 max. The test can be done at home on a treadmill. If you want to get better at a test that estimates VO2 max, practice doing the test. If a person runs 1.5 miles, three times a week, their test results will improve. It is unfortunate that people make things much more complicated than they need to be.
Glad you emphasized for 99% you won't exercise enough. Also glad you allowed the discussion for the ones that do exercise a lot. I think a study that would discern how much exercise is too much in the top 1% is difficult because I'm guessing the events such as arrhythmia don't happen that much. hard to power such a study because I'm guessing there are not that many subjects to begin with and also willing to do a study. Also people's amount of exercise varies throughout the year and years. I"m sure a company like garmin has troves of data that could be used for such a study. Maybe look at top 1% VO2max customers and those who run long miles v high intensity and see if their reported arrhythmias are different.
Not all we do is about longevity. We are also passionate about the sports and there is a huge social aspect to it. In the end it’s our responsibility to self regulate so the activity doesn’t become an addiction.
I'd rather get the physical and mental joy of intense exercise and kick the bucket a couple years earlier than drone through life like a sedentary zombie and live a little longer.
I agreed with him on the guts feeling. I would educate myself on what too much and what’s too little but at the end of the day, I listen to what my gut is telling me and it’s usually right 😅.
This was me. I’m 44 years old now and the transition to just move but at lower intensity was hard. I boxed as a kid into my late teens. Played football in high school and stayed hardcore active in boxing gyms sparring into my late 30s. Many injuries later I made the change and I enjoy walking 3miles in an hour 5 days a week and light weight. I’m slimming down and my mental is much better. #justdoit
At 63 I have toned things down . I came from the generation of no pain no gain . I mountain bike maybe 4 hours a week . I got as high as 6 and this was difficult riding with technical climbing . I was much more than that and I had reactions of chronic exhaustion and even got hives . My body was telling me it was to much . I know a guy who is may age and he mountain bikes everyday if almost 20 miles a day and he goes hard. It's quite amazing what he can do . Will it catch up or does he just have the capacity to do it . I don't and I don't want to . I do some light weight lifting a couple days and I will do some barefoot walking . Could I do more ? Sure but at least for me it could lead to problems . Physical exercise and especially at high levels creates inflammation and I have seen it first hand . I think it's all about tolerances and what your body will accept
"I came from the generation of no pain no gain." Tell me about it. I'm younger (48) but I remember those times when if you weren't pushing yourself to exhaustion you weren't working out hard enough. We'd lift weights until we puked, etc. It was ridiculous.
@@aaronlc7948 it was the gang at muscle beach and Joe Weider pedaling his supplements back in my day . Still have a bit of that in me but I know from past experience it's not productive for the long haul .
I walk an average of 12 kilometers a day. I have recently been wondering if it can cause me harm in the long run. However I enjoy it so much and I have so far not had any issues at all with pain or discomfort. I weight train a bit but walking is my main thing.
Absolutely it can cause damage. All that pounding may eventually take its toll...I would say either sprint, like I do because you can get all the benefits of running with much less exercise, or if you insist on doing cardio, ride a bicycle. That will save your legs...
Just a comment on Tour de France riders mortality. At least one study refutes the idea that it destroys people. In this study the ex riders lived longer than controls. Increased average longevity among the "Tour de France" cyclists F Sanchis-Gomar et al. Int J Sports Med. 2011 Aug.
Greg Lemond isn’t looking too good at 63. I think he had leukemia? He looks more like he’s 73. Who knows if cycling had anything to do with it. I wonder what his VO2 max is now. It was astronomical at one point.
Hey Peter hi. How r u. Me pawan from India 🇮🇳. I wanna know that is it fine with alternately doing zone 2 running and lifting days. With once a week doing vo2 max running
Conversation with someone too young to understand the limits of aging. We are very carful when choosing our personal trainers at the gym for this very reason.
@@TheKitty1952 I think his comments suggest he’d happily engage in this conversation. His comments seem to suggest that he might say what some people say is “aging” is just a message. That some undoubtedly conflate being deconditioned with age. Admittedly I don’t know how an average person is supposed to know.
No mention of hydration state in any of this. Seems like it's being forgotten as a determinant of adverse effects in training ( ie dehydrated and exerted = fibrosis)
What I don’t fully understand is, the previous study that Peter Attia cited was higher VO2max = higher longevity. So why the change in tone here? I can understand that Tour de France is extreme and definitely not healthy. But running 50miles a week doesn’t sound too extreme to me. (let’s say you run every morning and evening to your company in a chill Zone2 pace, in total 10km/6miles a day and add a long run on the weekend and you are already at 50miles per week.
50 miles a week is proven to have a negative impact on joint health. I think most exercise journals recommend 20 miles a week maximum to reach the benefit/injury ratio. You need very good form to run on volume like this for longevity.
This convo would have benefited from more focus. The question of dosage was never addressed directly. What is minimum? what is good, better, best? etc. would have been more informative.
This screams for looking into a "Celluciser," a mini-trampoline. You get Zone2 and weight bearing and resistance -- all in one -- without the impact. I'm a retired Marine, I'm 60, I've been beat up in my career and can't exercise with the intensity that I used to. The Cellusiser -- as geeky as it looks -- is an awesome piece of gear to bridge the gap, no harm done.
Began weight training 2x a week with a coach a year ago when I was diagnosed with osteoporosis. NOT taking the medication. I cried every day for the first four months, felt better at six months and at the year I am not afraid of the pain of fibromyalgia. It moves around and it doesn’t last. Grateful to have survived the soreness pain. Never in the gym longer than 35 minutes. At six months I measured - 12” released.
Wow that's impressive! I'm also dealing with pain during exercise and your story is motivation for me. Do you lift heavy (i.e. do you go to failure or close to failure) or do you lift more moderately to avoid too much pain? I've been lifting kinda light for what I can do as I'm afraid if I go too heavy too quickly I'll trigger pain.
Totally missing the point. How much exercise volume optimizes health and what is too much, at various aged eg age 75-'how much cardio and how much weights. They got lost in their discussion.
No one knows, but doesn’t seem to be limit to exercise as long as it’s not solely focused on one area of health causing an opportunity cost. That’s what Peter was getting at
I’m gonna repeat this everywhere: walking 20,000 steps a day doesn’t result in injury and is more profound in changing body composition than a keto diet. Lift weights. Walk 20k a day. Eat a purposeful, controllable diet. All should improve IMMENSELY. It is a breakthrough I cannot imagine
Preaching to the choir😊. I do 12-15K steps, eat a carnivore diet, do light resistance training five days a week with bodyweight, resistance bands, and kettlebells. I feel amazing. It isn't hard and the results are orders of magnitude better than I could have ever hoped for.
One hour is 6000 steps. 10 min is 1000. Etc. At some point something “weird” is required to get to 20,000. I have a treadmill under my desk and I dictate mostly to my laptop. I have a mouse that can be in my hand as I walk so steps are counted. You’re gonna need some big lumps of 3000 or 6000 to get to 20k. Lunch walk for an hour? Morning for an hour? Walk between sets while you lift? The major take-home is that it needs to be sketched out to do it. It won’t happen on accident. Once you make the space it becomes pretty easy. But things like a treadmill desk really help. It bends time limitations.
What about when joints, shoulders, elbows, thumbs, hips, knees, spine, feet are all deterioating. As well as arithymic heart beat and atrial fribulation. Still cycling 3 to 4 hours 100 km a week.
@@peterenevoldsen7199 Old injuries and a negligent surgeon mean load bearing on my feet is limited. Cycling is all i can sustain for zone 2 exercise. I do walk but 2 km is max. I am 75.
What about an Ultrarunner who runs (in the peak weeks of a training block) 18 hours a week, 2 hours strength, and 2 hours hot yoga? I figure actually racing 100 milers is not healthy for a multitude of reasons, but they're infrequent enough to justify. But does that amount of training, which prolonged and repeated, pose any risk (assuming no obvious osteoporosis type injuries are present)?
Gee, when I "exercise" It never ever comes to mind that I am adding days to a life. It is the "joy" of movement done to movement standards that I determine. Move well today, pay it forward, and move well tomorrow.
What do you think about Jonas Deichmann, who recently (Sep 6, 2024) completed 120 Ironmen in a row, starting on May 9? No kidding: 120 x ( 3.8 km 🏊♂️ + 180 km 🚴♂️ + 42 km 🏃♂️)
first...competition IS NOT HEALTHY. exercise is. moving is. eating well is. being happy is. sleeping is. but competing to be the best is not. most competitive athletes. if they stay at it long enough, will suffer for their extreme work. this is like realizing everything you need to know you knew by kindergarten. this does not require doctors or experts. it is common sense most people have known about it since man began. and listening to young experts always talking as if they really knew long-term knowledge is at times irritating.
Competition absolutely is very healthy, especially for men. What isn't is excessive physical stress that leads to permanent issues with CNS or scaring/tearing of muscle, tendons and heart. Correlation is not causation
@@eddiesmith7867 look, get real, we are not talking about playground running around here. we are not talking about goin out and having doubles or singles tennis. we are not talking about goin to the YMCA and swimming the length of the pool a few times. we are not talking about a group volley ball game every tuesday and thursday night or weekends on the beach. we are not talking about a three-mile jog or run. we ARE talking about centering your life around winning these events. about stressing you body to the max to become the top in your sport.
@@paulpellico3797 Only weightlifting enthusiasts and a very small handful of former pro athletes ever got permanent damage to their body from competition either because of stupidity (poor form/restraint) or lack of recovery measures. The current top 10 in every Olympic sport (the most competitive athletes on earth) never has had permanent injuries from competition, even minor injuries are super rare. Stop fear mongering
@@WebDesignSocal balance is the key to life. Water is good for you but if you drink 10 gallons you will die. Food and vitamins are good for you but if you eat 10,000 calories per day you’ll be on the road to death. Too many vitamins will overdose you. This is my meaning of moderation. Being active is healthy but like the doctor says above, running 20 hours per day isn’t healthy.
I learned from Tech Lead that muscles will kill you. I listen to him. He's smart and is a multi millionaire. I'll listen to him over some random fake doctor online. So basically don't lift weights and abuse steroids
way too much emphasis on endurance running. What about HIRT? Doing HIRT twice a week, plus resistance training and walking/hiking is what most people have the ability to shoot for. I didn't find this dude very helpful. Peter you and your team are great!
Am I the only one who doesn't get the J curve thing? The letter looks like an asymptomatic parabola, but it curves back on itself like a backwards C or something? Feeling stupid
You must do 5 hours a week strength exercise in order to cover most of the muscles , 2 hours aerobic exercise a week , Iif you practice a sport as Ido boxing and tenis another 3 or 4 hours a week , 2 hours stretching a week , that is the reason why it doesn't have sense , what they are taking about , by the way I am far over 70th and I enjoy my way of life
It is very simple. Exercise and recovery. If you neglect recovery you pay the price. Overtraining will slow your progress and cause harm. In the 1960’s obesity was virtually non existent. Eat real foods and you will not get heart issues, health issues, etc. diet is very important for not damaging arteries and cardiovascular health. Especially vitamin K2 is the most important vitamin. Start there if you are concerned about heart health. Avoid seed oils #1. Natural carbs are fine as long as no processed sugars, oils, etc.
Data Point: I was on a “bikes and brews” pub crawl (on my electric bike) with a bunch of “real” runners and bikers; real athletes in their mid-40’s that put my fitness to shame. They were ALL sharing stories of aches and pains and injuries and surgeries. Back backs. Bad knees. You name it. I chimed in, “I might drop dead of heart attack tomorrow, but I’ve never had an ache or pain in my life. :-)
that’s easy to say, but in reality being able to gauge what is too much is not easy, especially when most of us feel tired all the time and only get out of bed because we know we have to
All very well but in reality this is far too complex. The supplements he takes and medications for his apob etc , normal people don’t have the time or energy to be this scientific. Walk regularly, cycle jog regularly, gym regularly, HIIT less regularly, eat whole foods natural no processed sugars and foods and no nut and seed oils. That works for
A ridiculous opening to this video…Attia asks a question, the guest says “the answer is the next 3 hours of our conversation”…. Again..what a ridiculous approach…why do educated people make a simple concept sooooooo complex??? This conversation is waaaaaaaaay over complicated. A turn off to the bulk of people who NEVER exercise. Attia is targeting his education to a very limited of “highly motivated” people. Those are the people who need it the least..
When this guy starts getting life long injuries and pain, he will realise running 30 minutes every day, on top of strength traing and HIIT, is not on the low side for exercise, and probably not the best idea for longevity.
@@justinklenk Ok, mr. know it all. You always have to get the last word in whether it makes sense or not. But hey, I understand your intense need to feel superior to someone, anyone.
Some are eluding to this but I think overwhelmingly the biggest risk with too much exercise is orthopaedic.Staying within the limits of what you can do mechanically is the challenge . Especially as you age .
Exactly. I’m surprised this wasn’t mentioned.
Notice at the end he talked about the social aspects, stress relief, enjoyable etc. These are the underated aspects. Pick something you enjoy if you want it to stick.
Because I currently have knee pain, I have not exercised as often as I want. Yesterday, I went swimming for the first time in two months. After about ten minutes, I felt tired. A year ago, I could swim for about 90 minutes before feeling tired. Anyway, I continued through the tiredness and eventually swam for 60 minutes out of 70. By the way, I'm 77, and my weight is about 10 pounds more than when I was 18, waist size is about 2 inches more. My main point is you can always do just a little more.
Love this
It’s even more cool that you’re 77 and commenting on UA-cam videos. 😂
Inspirational
The Cooper 1.5 mile Run Test estimates VO2 max. The test can be done at home on a treadmill. If you want to get better at a test that estimates VO2 max, practice doing the test. If a person runs 1.5 miles, three times a week, their test results will improve. It is unfortunate that people make things much more complicated than they need to be.
Just move and do what makes you happy. The gist.
Thanks for everything you do, Peter. Always helpful
You must listen to your body , I am over 50, running 55 miles a week and I am fine, not tired, if I don't feel like running I don't go out, that's it.
Glad you emphasized for 99% you won't exercise enough. Also glad you allowed the discussion for the ones that do exercise a lot. I think a study that would discern how much exercise is too much in the top 1% is difficult because I'm guessing the events such as arrhythmia don't happen that much. hard to power such a study because I'm guessing there are not that many subjects to begin with and also willing to do a study. Also people's amount of exercise varies throughout the year and years. I"m sure a company like garmin has troves of data that could be used for such a study. Maybe look at top 1% VO2max customers and those who run long miles v high intensity and see if their reported arrhythmias are different.
Not all we do is about longevity. We are also passionate about the sports and there is a huge social aspect to it. In the end it’s our responsibility to self regulate so the activity doesn’t become an addiction.
I'd rather get the physical and mental joy of intense exercise and kick the bucket a couple years earlier than drone through life like a sedentary zombie and live a little longer.
You guys keep saying, " running" isn't brisk walking for 40 minutes a day enough with weights?? My joints camt handle running
I agreed with him on the guts feeling. I would educate myself on what too much and what’s too little but at the end of the day, I listen to what my gut is telling me and it’s usually right 😅.
If everything hurts and you don't feel like doing it, do a different type of exercise or lower the intensity. Otherwise, just do it.
This was me. I’m 44 years old now and the transition to just move but at lower intensity was hard. I boxed as a kid into my late teens. Played football in high school and stayed hardcore active in boxing gyms sparring into my late 30s. Many injuries later I made the change and I enjoy walking 3miles in an hour 5 days a week and light weight. I’m slimming down and my mental is much better. #justdoit
The trade-off if there is a volume concern is the "joy" of exercise/movement even if it somewhat harmful.
At 63 I have toned things down . I came from the generation of no pain no gain . I mountain bike maybe 4 hours a week . I got as high as 6 and this was difficult riding with technical climbing . I was much more than that and I had reactions of chronic exhaustion and even got hives . My body was telling me it was to much . I know a guy who is may age and he mountain bikes everyday if almost 20 miles a day and he goes hard. It's quite amazing what he can do . Will it catch up or does he just have the capacity to do it . I don't and I don't want to . I do some light weight lifting a couple days and I will do some barefoot walking . Could I do more ? Sure but at least for me it could lead to problems . Physical exercise and especially at high levels creates inflammation and I have seen it first hand . I think it's all about tolerances and what your body will accept
"I came from the generation of no pain no gain."
Tell me about it. I'm younger (48) but I remember those times when if you weren't pushing yourself to exhaustion you weren't working out hard enough. We'd lift weights until we puked, etc. It was ridiculous.
@@aaronlc7948 it was the gang at muscle beach and Joe Weider pedaling his supplements back in my day . Still have a bit of that in me but I know from past experience it's not productive for the long haul .
Based on this conversation I deduced a correlation between exercise and hair loss.
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🤣 ha ha ha, love this! Love the look! Keep going gentlemen!
I walk an average of 12 kilometers a day. I have recently been wondering if it can cause me harm in the long run. However I enjoy it so much and I have so far not had any issues at all with pain or discomfort. I weight train a bit but walking is my main thing.
if you dont do any running, biking or other high intensity/endurance sports on top of ur walking, its probably not even close to too much :)
As far as I can see , this is almost optimal for longevity , walking is amazing I wish I could limit myself to that .
Absolutely it can cause damage. All that pounding may eventually take its toll...I would say either sprint, like I do because you can get all the benefits of running with much less exercise, or if you insist on doing cardio, ride a bicycle. That will save your legs...
@@ClassicJukeboxBand Wrong=hips & knees damage.
Just a comment on Tour de France riders mortality. At least one study refutes the idea that it destroys people. In this study the ex riders lived longer than controls. Increased average longevity among the "Tour de France" cyclists
F Sanchis-Gomar et al. Int J Sports Med. 2011 Aug.
Greg Lemond isn’t looking too good at 63. I think he had leukemia? He looks more like he’s 73. Who knows if cycling had anything to do with it. I wonder what his VO2 max is now. It was astronomical at one point.
Excellent as always. More of Dr. Hutchinson please.
What would be very helpful is "defining" the word "exercise." Could it be muscle fiber recruitment beyond sedentary activity?
Peter at what level did you compete?
Hey Peter hi. How r u.
Me pawan from India 🇮🇳. I wanna know that is it fine with alternately doing zone 2 running and lifting days. With once a week doing vo2 max running
Conversation with someone too young to understand the limits of aging. We are very carful when choosing our personal trainers at the gym for this very reason.
@@TheKitty1952 I think his comments suggest he’d happily engage in this conversation. His comments seem to suggest that he might say what some people say is “aging” is just a message. That some undoubtedly conflate being deconditioned with age. Admittedly I don’t know how an average person is supposed to know.
I think you need to accept that you don’t want to push yourself to your maximal capabilities. It’s okay to be below average
No mention of hydration state in any of this. Seems like it's being forgotten as a determinant of adverse effects in training ( ie dehydrated and exerted = fibrosis)
What I don’t fully understand is, the previous study that Peter Attia cited was higher VO2max = higher longevity. So why the change in tone here? I can understand that Tour de France is extreme and definitely not healthy. But running 50miles a week doesn’t sound too extreme to me. (let’s say you run every morning and evening to your company in a chill Zone2 pace, in total 10km/6miles a day and add a long run on the weekend and you are already at 50miles per week.
Yes, I'm also confused here...
50 miles a week is proven to have a negative impact on joint health. I think most exercise journals recommend 20 miles a week maximum to reach the benefit/injury ratio. You need very good form to run on volume like this for longevity.
I just started watching this while on the echo bike. I hope we don't need too much cardio 😂
Listen to your body ...
This convo would have benefited from more focus. The question of dosage was never addressed directly. What is minimum? what is good, better, best? etc. would have been more informative.
This screams for looking into a "Celluciser," a mini-trampoline. You get Zone2 and weight bearing and resistance -- all in one -- without the impact. I'm a retired Marine, I'm 60, I've been beat up in my career and can't exercise with the intensity that I used to. The Cellusiser -- as geeky as it looks -- is an awesome piece of gear to bridge the gap, no harm done.
8:00 5-10 mins a day, an hour a week?
14:10 Training for longevity
Began weight training 2x a week with a coach a year ago when I was diagnosed with osteoporosis. NOT taking the medication. I cried every day for the first four months, felt better at six months and at the year I am not afraid of the pain of fibromyalgia. It moves around and it doesn’t last. Grateful to have survived the soreness pain. Never in the gym longer than 35 minutes. At six months I measured - 12” released.
How is your diet? What is the effect on your bone of exercise ?
What is effect on your bones?
What is your diet? Any blood work done?
Wow that's impressive! I'm also dealing with pain during exercise and your story is motivation for me. Do you lift heavy (i.e. do you go to failure or close to failure) or do you lift more moderately to avoid too much pain? I've been lifting kinda light for what I can do as I'm afraid if I go too heavy too quickly I'll trigger pain.
Research vitamin K2. It’s the cure for bone health. Known cure for Osteoporosis in Japan. See the book “Vitamin K2 and the Calcium Paradox.”
Totally missing the point. How much exercise volume optimizes health and what is too much, at various aged eg age 75-'how much cardio and how much weights. They got lost in their discussion.
No one knows, but doesn’t seem to be limit to exercise as long as it’s not solely focused on one area of health causing an opportunity cost. That’s what Peter was getting at
I’m gonna repeat this everywhere: walking 20,000 steps a day doesn’t result in injury and is more profound in changing body composition than a keto diet. Lift weights. Walk 20k a day. Eat a purposeful, controllable diet. All should improve IMMENSELY. It is a breakthrough I cannot imagine
Preaching to the choir😊. I do 12-15K steps, eat a carnivore diet, do light resistance training five days a week with bodyweight, resistance bands, and kettlebells. I feel amazing. It isn't hard and the results are orders of magnitude better than I could have ever hoped for.
No how’s the benefits at 20000steps vs say 10000??
Sounds like a total of around 5 hours of (not-slow) steps - every day?
One hour is 6000 steps. 10 min is 1000. Etc. At some point something “weird” is required to get to 20,000. I have a treadmill under my desk and I dictate mostly to my laptop. I have a mouse that can be in my hand as I walk so steps are counted. You’re gonna need some big lumps of 3000 or 6000 to get to 20k. Lunch walk for an hour? Morning for an hour? Walk between sets while you lift? The major take-home is that it needs to be sketched out to do it. It won’t happen on accident. Once you make the space it becomes pretty easy. But things like a treadmill desk really help. It bends time limitations.
Biased opinion dr
What about when joints, shoulders, elbows, thumbs, hips, knees, spine, feet are all deterioating. As well as arithymic heart beat and atrial fribulation. Still cycling 3 to 4 hours 100 km a week.
Ditch the bike, start walking.
@@peterenevoldsen7199 Old injuries and a negligent surgeon mean load bearing on my feet is limited. Cycling is all i can sustain for zone 2 exercise. I do walk but 2 km is max. I am 75.
What about an Ultrarunner who runs (in the peak weeks of a training block) 18 hours a week, 2 hours strength, and 2 hours hot yoga? I figure actually racing 100 milers is not healthy for a multitude of reasons, but they're infrequent enough to justify. But does that amount of training, which prolonged and repeated, pose any risk (assuming no obvious osteoporosis type injuries are present)?
A huge part of choosing exercise is love. If you're doing something you hate you're dead already. No longevity even if you live to 100.
You are reading this right now
Gonna need to see some video proof - or you got nuthin'.
Nope. I'm living in the past baby
Awesome conversation
Video starts at 0:00
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Gee, when I "exercise" It never ever comes to mind that I am adding days to a life. It is the "joy" of movement done to movement standards that I determine. Move well today, pay it forward, and move well tomorrow.
What do you think about Jonas Deichmann, who recently (Sep 6, 2024) completed 120 Ironmen in a row, starting on May 9?
No kidding: 120 x ( 3.8 km 🏊♂️ + 180 km 🚴♂️ + 42 km 🏃♂️)
This guest cannot possibly be more any convoluted with his messages. I really have no idea what his point is.
first...competition IS NOT HEALTHY.
exercise is.
moving is.
eating well is.
being happy is.
sleeping is.
but competing to be the best is not.
most competitive athletes. if they stay at it long enough, will suffer for their extreme work.
this is like realizing everything you need to know you knew by kindergarten.
this does not require doctors or experts. it is common sense most people have known about it since man began.
and listening to young experts always talking as if they really knew long-term knowledge is at times irritating.
So so true. Thank you for this comment.
Competition absolutely is very healthy, especially for men. What isn't is excessive physical stress that leads to permanent issues with CNS or scaring/tearing of muscle, tendons and heart. Correlation is not causation
Well said…so many experts it’s exhausting !
@@eddiesmith7867 look, get real, we are not talking about playground running around here.
we are not talking about goin out and having doubles or singles tennis.
we are not talking about goin to the YMCA and swimming the length of the pool a few times.
we are not talking about a group volley ball game every tuesday and thursday night or weekends on the beach.
we are not talking about a three-mile jog or run.
we ARE talking about centering your life around winning these events.
about stressing you body to the max to become the top in your sport.
@@paulpellico3797
Only weightlifting enthusiasts and a very small handful of former pro athletes ever got permanent damage to their body from competition either because of stupidity (poor form/restraint) or lack of recovery measures.
The current top 10 in every Olympic sport (the most competitive athletes on earth) never has had permanent injuries from competition, even minor injuries are super rare.
Stop fear mongering
Once again moderation wins
Moderation is the key to mediocrity. Mediocrity is death.
@@WebDesignSocal balance is the key to life. Water is good for you but if you drink 10 gallons you will die. Food and vitamins are good for you but if you eat 10,000 calories per day you’ll be on the road to death. Too many vitamins will overdose you. This is my meaning of moderation. Being active is healthy but like the doctor says above, running 20 hours per day isn’t healthy.
@@WebDesignSocal Copy & paste much?
@@WebDesignSocalModeration is not mediocrity. Moderation in an athlete’s sense is the key to optimal results.
Non scientific but you can feel it
I learned from Tech Lead that muscles will kill you. I listen to him. He's smart and is a multi millionaire. I'll listen to him over some random fake doctor online. So basically don't lift weights and abuse steroids
Looks like it causes severe hair loss.
What was your first clue 😂🤣😜
I am over 50 ,have been doing so much sport for so long and I have plenty of hair ( not Grey!)
@@sylvainhyais8166 unfortunately I'm 53 and my hair started turning gray at 16 😥
No need for personal insults mister
@@531c????
Can you be more specific. The book exercised, states more than 30 hours the benefits start to get worse. Read more folks….
way too much emphasis on endurance running. What about HIRT? Doing HIRT twice a week, plus resistance training and walking/hiking is what most people have the ability to shoot for. I didn't find this dude very helpful. Peter you and your team are great!
Am I the only one who doesn't get the J curve thing? The letter looks like an asymptomatic parabola, but it curves back on itself like a backwards C or something? Feeling stupid
You must do 5 hours a week strength exercise in order to cover most of the muscles , 2 hours aerobic exercise a week , Iif you practice a sport as Ido boxing and tenis another 3 or 4 hours a week , 2 hours stretching a week , that is the reason why it doesn't have sense , what they are taking about , by the way I am far over 70th and I enjoy my way of life
You need zero hours of aerobic exercise per week. You will do better with 2 minutes of sprinting per week, guaranteed...
It is very simple. Exercise and recovery. If you neglect recovery you pay the price. Overtraining will slow your progress and cause harm.
In the 1960’s obesity was virtually non existent. Eat real foods and you will not get heart issues, health issues, etc. diet is very important for not damaging arteries and cardiovascular health. Especially vitamin K2 is the most important vitamin. Start there if you are concerned about heart health. Avoid seed oils #1. Natural carbs are fine as long as no processed sugars, oils, etc.
Fructose and seed oils are certainly the two main drivers of body fat gain.
The average lifespan in 1960 was 66.6 years for men and 73.1 for women.
Data Point: I was on a “bikes and brews” pub crawl (on my electric bike) with a bunch of “real” runners and bikers; real athletes in their mid-40’s that put my fitness to shame. They were ALL sharing stories of aches and pains and injuries and surgeries. Back backs. Bad knees. You name it. I chimed in, “I might drop dead of heart attack tomorrow, but I’ve never had an ache or pain in my life. :-)
Too much speculation here from the guest and not enough hard data.
Jack LaLanne figured this out before you "experts" were born. You guys do too much hard stuff . Move move move do do do but do not overdo.
that’s easy to say, but in reality being able to gauge what is too much is not easy, especially when most of us feel tired all the time and only get out of bed because we know we have to
Peter looks thin.
Thin is better
Absolutely no information in here. Peter is so obsessed with the top 1/4 of 1% of people.
All very well but in reality this is far too complex. The supplements he takes and medications for his apob etc , normal people don’t have the time or energy to be this scientific. Walk regularly, cycle jog regularly, gym regularly, HIIT less regularly, eat whole foods natural no processed sugars and foods and no nut and seed oils. That works for
Stuttering is driving me crazy
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He runs alot and is bald
He lost me at 20 miles a week running isn’t enough…
🤣😂😜
A ridiculous opening to this video…Attia asks a question, the guest says “the answer is the next 3 hours of our conversation”…. Again..what a ridiculous approach…why do educated people make a simple concept sooooooo complex??? This conversation is waaaaaaaaay over complicated. A turn off to the bulk of people who NEVER exercise. Attia is targeting his education to a very limited of “highly motivated” people. Those are the people who need it the least..
No answers to the questions, useless interview
When this guy starts getting life long injuries and pain, he will realise running 30 minutes every day, on top of strength traing and HIIT, is not on the low side for exercise, and probably not the best idea for longevity.
Moderation is the key to mediocrity. Mediocrity is death.
But plainly, so is immoderation. (Although your point is not lost... Just a little naively stated. 👍)
@@justinklenk Ok, mr. know it all. You always have to get the last word in whether it makes sense or not. But hey, I understand your intense need to feel superior to someone, anyone.
@@WebDesignSocalcalm down
@@dant.6364 Thanks. You are so therapukeic. BTW, Your mom says to tell you "hi".
Hey @dant.6364, we never know what somebody's going through, aside from @WebDesignSocal; we know they're going through something very bad.
He’s runs alot and is bald