i used to love lavos when he first came out, and i still think hes really cool, but i hadn't used him in years until i looked at my build for him last night, and i did honest to god have energy siphon as my aura. what was me from 3 years ago doing? why did i do that? what did i think it was going to accomplish?
Protip for Lavos: when using combine elements, you dont need to add them one by one, just hold both ability keys. And yes, the element from the augment combines with the modded elements on the weapon if you have single elements there.
@@gem6222 Check if you keyboard has n-key rollover. If you have a membrane keyboard it probably has 2 key roll over or some limitation with keys within the same row (an old keyboard of mine had this issue)
Honestly, as someone who learnt the speedrunning method it's surprisingly simple. Long story short, the pylons go down to either nightwatch napalm or the zenith's infinite punch through, then you pile as many elements as possible onto an exodia contagion zaw and a burst damage secondary (magnetic tenet displos is the preference). The legs are alloy armor so you want to mod your archgun for pure radiation, and the whole combo is topped off by running eclipse... Which means that 1 minute times aren't possible anymore because you can't oneshot the pylons after the eclipse nerf. Part of me now wants to set up a collection of hotkeys and run lavos, just to see how well he compares to volt and chroma with all the other speedrun gear.
the part about eclipse is actually not true, believe it or not we lost only 1 second (WR is about 51s-50.8s). now its way stricter with rivens, and alot more skilled, and old eclipse was way more fun but the runs didnt actually lose any time
@@rivershen8954 we still run volt, forgot to say. you dont really have an option in speedrunning solo unfortunately, volt speed affecting archwing is just too good, other frames will get maybe 53-54s tops without speed and thats if youre the goat of PT
the augment basically acts like a free element mod on the gun with guaranteed status procs, so it'll combine with other elemental mods you already have on the gun. Which is why it wasn't working sometimes on profit taker's shields.
Should be mentioned that the augment combines its element with anything already present on the weapon, so make sure your weapon is pure slash/punc/imp. Also, the guaranteed status proc from the aug is separate from the damage. Example: Your weapon deals radiation and you try to add heat with Lavos aug. This will now deal more radiation, but with a guaranteed heat proc (which is why there was a lot of ”grey” damage in the video, despite the Lavos element being correct)
yup, MC being a notorious inaros player keeps confirming a thing i've alays belived. Inaros players are always the chillest. By controversy around? nope, let's kill spider. We love you MC
So, fun thing about the augment, it boosts the damage of DoT's, which makes it the only elemental mod to boost the proc damage of gas, and does boost the damage of procs from his abilities too. Also, being an augment, it will work in Grendel missions.
Oh neat, that actually confirmed the questions I had about the augment. When I read it originally my first thought was that it would be amazing for PT since all you would need IPS. Then the update came out and I promptly forgot about the augment and never tested it lol. Probably going to steal this build just to keep around since PT was never my favorite fight, but the augment seems to make it a lot easier.
I mean... I did a 4 Minute Run with the Default Archgun you get from The Tutorial.... I would Say it was Already Easy.... It's Actually Borderline Brain Dead at this Point.
Watching now and thanks for making a video on a "Hey that would be something to try!" idea I had when reading the patch notes, then promptly forgot about until this video hit!
So now we can just build the Archgun for pure damage+Radiation and Lavos's Augment act as the universal key to bust open every lock! I might play PT now tbh...
The Mecha set works really well on Lavos and one of the mods in the set is an aura so that checks out on the PROPER AURA MOD for him although you will have to use a Kubrow/Predasite/Helminth Charger on him, I run HC (Whenever I don't need the full set whether because of enemy density or for other reasons) for the YEET memes and also because it feels fitting on him because of FMA Chimeras.
Lavos is one of my favorites. Him being the original Cooldown frame is note worthy. His kit is well rounded and doesn't have the current WF kit shenanigans, and is a look at if DE just implement a large balance pass on WF kit design. With his mixing mechanics, if you're not using a mouse with hotkeys (at the very least Back and Forward) you're not going to have fun with him. Having one hand have immediate access to 2 elements is a lot better than finger contorting your left on the keyboard to do combos involving electric and heat.
@@DavidUtau yeah hence the point of being able to use the mouse. doing it all with the keyboard hand WHILE ALSO moving is tough especially when you involve electric and heat. toxin and cold are fine but when using the other 2 to mix got to shift hands off of wasd to mix 2 at the same time.
So, I did this myself, and I realized something... When doing the basic elements when they came up, PT just...didn't take damage. I think it might be because the basic elements from Valence Formation try and combine with the elements I have on my archgun...even though the only damage types I've modded on it are Viral and Radiation...but in reality, I dunno This is just my experience, of course, if anyone else is willing to help compare notes, feel free to let me know For reference, my build for this on Lavos is roughly the same as the first build that was shown, save for the Aura and instead of the normal vitality and steel fiber, I went with the umbral set, for more armor And also my archgun of choice was Imperator Vandal (it damages so fast-), as previously mentioned it's only been modded for radiation and viral in terms of extra damage types, although it can deal impact, slash and puncture fairly well whenever homegirl mc "robo-spider" here decides to cycle to either of those
People are "screetching" about the dante nerfs? Jesus man I was kinda sad but if you do what any true gigichad does and just put as much ability strength on him as possible at the cost of everything else, he still gives more overguard than you'll probably ever need, amd the nuke was too much anyways
I'm 4 months late, but if you have your weapon modded for, say, Radiation, and you add heat, the added heat damage from Valence just gets added to your radiation damage, instead of becoming its own instance.
huge respect for not dogpiling more whining about the nerfs (not that i think you're a whiny person, actually i expect you have a way more rational take than most of the forums), because most people have already heard enough about it and i enjoy these faffing around videos way more than most other warframe content.
So if you mod a weapon for lets say, corrosive and heat, and try to apply just cold onto it with lavos, it combines with the heat to make blast, so you have to be careful how you mod your weapons with lavos.
I don’t know if this is true, but if your weapon if modded for something like viral heat or whatever, using valence for like cold, the cold and heat will combine into blast instead of cold+heat. tho the elements were just an example, i THINK this is how it works
About why you couldn't damage it some of the time, although the force procs will always the infused type the damage is added to the weapon like an elemental mod and will combine with other elements on the weapon, it's not coded as an additional hit like Sayren's 3 lol.
As a Lavos sampotes main, I must say I Cnt wait for Lavos to get a Prime because normal Lavos, all his skins suck which is a crime for how amazing this frame is
To me this is a gamechanger, I keep forgetting wich weapon is what element xD and sometimes I acidently use a "bugged" weapon like the radial portion of the sporelacer don't dealing damage.
I only decided to give Lavos a try because of TheKengineer... Lavos is now within my top 3 frames, ESPECIALLY after his newest augment Edit: I made my Lavos into an Umbral build, and it facetanks on par with Inaros
^doubt it Also, "umbral build" on lavos is kind of a waste. But that might be subjective, IMO all umbral mods are moh, why waste slots in health and armor when you got better things to mod for.
Haven’t finished the video but I think I know why you couldn’t deal damage with heat or toxin. For some reason if another part of you kit out damages your current weapon it will sometimes deal no damage. My viral operator arcane gets me all the time with this because my amp’s alt fire deals not viral damage than anything else in my kit even if the arcane hasn’t proced (procced?)
To be fair, our "screeching" is necessary. Its not about the Nerfs, its the baseless excuses and continuing indifferent attitude towards already opressive frames. Along with them NOT fixing bugs before making Nerfs. DE: "We don't want Warframes that Automate, Disrupt, or Dominate gameplay. Also DE: Allows MESA to be an instant aimbot in any direction, Octavia to have infinitely scaling damage on an automated rolling robot that both tracks and attracts enemies to it. Mirage lays traps that invalidate Survival, Sanctuary, and any Defense map, which is all fucking 3 of the things DE "doesn't want." Limbo continues to exist and is abysmal in his existence (people wouldn't be as upset about Limbo if he was actually fucking useful). Along with Saryn and Wisp completely dominating gameplay across the board. I thought for once DE was going to have a Male frame which felt good. But of course, Dante doesn't have ass or tits, so, back down to A tier you go nerd. The only, ONLY thing Dante was dominant at is the base star chart. Once enemies get to more difficult levels, around 150+ His survival is ABYSMAL because all that protects him is overshield, which even at 50k over shield, this was BARELY enough for 150+ let alone going to max. The issue is that most people played him in Sanctuary and star chart where ANY FRAME can be oppressive and powerful. Try the steelpath Assassination Mission with The Fragmented. Dante is useless since the Boss wipes away all overshields with multiple abilities. Nothing in the normal star chart can counter overshields, it's a new mechanic. The Mechanic is what is strong, not the frame. I used to think the whole "female frames are more powerful than male frames" was a joke, but here we are, with further evidence that everything Dante can do, another frame can do better. There are 5 frames that have been top tier for fucking YEARS with automated, disruptive, and dominant gameplay, and yet, here we are arguing about the NEWEST one, as opposed to the old ones that have had literal YEARS to perform at their peak. The Nerfs don't upset us. It's the fucking baseless excuses. My biggest complaint with this Dante patch is that DE decided to sent out the nerfs BEFORE fixes. Wordwarden doesn't apply the Canticle mods (a core feature of the weapon and Dante's kit) and there are the blinding fucking spinny words (happens in your video at 2:43) that happen for no reason all the time. It is a fucking kick in the teeth.
Just saying; i unsubscribed after about 6 or so years, not because of your content (i really enjoy it) but because of the absolute shit show DE had been with the Dante nerfs and how they treated the community over it. I'll miss your content but such is life. I wish you all the beat in life.
Putting Energy Siphon on Lavos is a weird flex, but a respectable one
i used to love lavos when he first came out, and i still think hes really cool, but i hadn't used him in years until i looked at my build for him last night, and i did honest to god have energy siphon as my aura. what was me from 3 years ago doing? why did i do that? what did i think it was going to accomplish?
@@soylentconsumer4203 year ago you knew something we didn't I guess
Lol Hildry used to get infinite shield gate from that, maybe you were trying to get status immunity?
@@xylem0195did they nerf that?
He’s just supporting his team
Protip for Lavos: when using combine elements, you dont need to add them one by one, just hold both ability keys. And yes, the element from the augment combines with the modded elements on the weapon if you have single elements there.
That is very useful, thank you !
Elements piano chords xD
doesnt work for me if km holding down other keys, maybe its just my keyboard idk
@@gem6222 Check if you keyboard has n-key rollover. If you have a membrane keyboard it probably has 2 key roll over or some limitation with keys within the same row (an old keyboard of mine had this issue)
Honestly, as someone who learnt the speedrunning method it's surprisingly simple.
Long story short, the pylons go down to either nightwatch napalm or the zenith's infinite punch through, then you pile as many elements as possible onto an exodia contagion zaw and a burst damage secondary (magnetic tenet displos is the preference). The legs are alloy armor so you want to mod your archgun for pure radiation, and the whole combo is topped off by running eclipse...
Which means that 1 minute times aren't possible anymore because you can't oneshot the pylons after the eclipse nerf.
Part of me now wants to set up a collection of hotkeys and run lavos, just to see how well he compares to volt and chroma with all the other speedrun gear.
the part about eclipse is actually not true, believe it or not we lost only 1 second (WR is about 51s-50.8s). now its way stricter with rivens, and alot more skilled, and old eclipse was way more fun but the runs didnt actually lose any time
With what frames were run though?
@@rivershen8954 we still run volt, forgot to say. you dont really have an option in speedrunning solo unfortunately, volt speed affecting archwing is just too good, other frames will get maybe 53-54s tops without speed and thats if youre the goat of PT
@@hellobrowhyisme oh i forgot about volt, and that op was talking about speedrunning. My brain was thinking of general chill profit taker runs lol
I didn’t know about the legs being alloy armour thanks this actually helps
the augment basically acts like a free element mod on the gun with guaranteed status procs, so it'll combine with other elemental mods you already have on the gun. Which is why it wasn't working sometimes on profit taker's shields.
The new Lavos augment actually pairs really well with the Gotva Prime’s gimmick of 15% chance of red Crit after including a status effect.
I'll be perfectly honest here, I can't wait for Lavos Prime. He has low key been a frame that I constantly go back to and have fun with.
Should be mentioned that the augment combines its element with anything already present on the weapon, so make sure your weapon is pure slash/punc/imp. Also, the guaranteed status proc from the aug is separate from the damage.
Example: Your weapon deals radiation and you try to add heat with Lavos aug. This will now deal more radiation, but with a guaranteed heat proc (which is why there was a lot of ”grey” damage in the video, despite the Lavos element being correct)
you could probably run containment breach (the radiation/multishot mod) since the rad mods apply separately from heat or electric
Lavos Prime may be coming later this year, so this'll be very handy!
Please God
god i hope so as a lavos main
That'd be fuckin AWESOME
hopefully designed by Liger, WINK WINK
yup, MC being a notorious inaros player keeps confirming a thing i've alays belived. Inaros players are always the chillest. By controversy around? nope, let's kill spider.
We love you MC
Omg, this haven't even crossed my mind when Weapons Platform Lavos was going around. Also, nice flex with the Energy Siphon. Keep it up!
Probably because it's Slower than having All the Elements Already instead Of Switching Elements One at a Time. 👀
Lavos' 3 makes ammo universal, so archgun with 0 issues for the whole fight
Mom look, I am on UA-cam!
So, fun thing about the augment, it boosts the damage of DoT's, which makes it the only elemental mod to boost the proc damage of gas, and does boost the damage of procs from his abilities too. Also, being an augment, it will work in Grendel missions.
Oh neat, that actually confirmed the questions I had about the augment. When I read it originally my first thought was that it would be amazing for PT since all you would need IPS. Then the update came out and I promptly forgot about the augment and never tested it lol. Probably going to steal this build just to keep around since PT was never my favorite fight, but the augment seems to make it a lot easier.
You’d be better off using volt he’s the best frame for profit taker objectively
I mean... I did a 4 Minute Run with the Default Archgun you get from The Tutorial.... I would Say it was Already Easy.... It's Actually Borderline Brain Dead at this Point.
This is a great idea. I'll use this with the MIGHTY SEER
Watching now and thanks for making a video on a "Hey that would be something to try!" idea I had when reading the patch notes, then promptly forgot about until this video hit!
So now we can just build the Archgun for pure damage+Radiation and Lavos's Augment act as the universal key to bust open every lock!
I might play PT now tbh...
0:57
you… sacrilegious.
The Mecha set works really well on Lavos and one of the mods in the set is an aura so that checks out on the PROPER AURA MOD for him although you will have to use a Kubrow/Predasite/Helminth Charger on him, I run HC (Whenever I don't need the full set whether because of enemy density or for other reasons) for the YEET memes and also because it feels fitting on him because of FMA Chimeras.
Oh I hadn't even considered how easily Lavos can now handle Profit Taker
As a Lavos main, I'm excited to try it
Lavos is one of my favorites. Him being the original Cooldown frame is note worthy. His kit is well rounded and doesn't have the current WF kit shenanigans, and is a look at if DE just implement a large balance pass on WF kit design.
With his mixing mechanics, if you're not using a mouse with hotkeys (at the very least Back and Forward) you're not going to have fun with him. Having one hand have immediate access to 2 elements is a lot better than finger contorting your left on the keyboard to do combos involving electric and heat.
or just learn to use more than one finger at a time.
@@DavidUtau yeah hence the point of being able to use the mouse. doing it all with the keyboard hand WHILE ALSO moving is tough especially when you involve electric and heat. toxin and cold are fine but when using the other 2 to mix got to shift hands off of wasd to mix 2 at the same time.
"Spider slayer"...
Me: He's... He's not actually going to do this right?
MC: *Does this
Me: WOW... OK... Genuinely didn't see that coming...
So, I did this myself, and I realized something...
When doing the basic elements when they came up, PT just...didn't take damage.
I think it might be because the basic elements from Valence Formation try and combine with the elements I have on my archgun...even though the only damage types I've modded on it are Viral and Radiation...but in reality, I dunno
This is just my experience, of course, if anyone else is willing to help compare notes, feel free to let me know
For reference, my build for this on Lavos is roughly the same as the first build that was shown, save for the Aura and instead of the normal vitality and steel fiber, I went with the umbral set, for more armor
And also my archgun of choice was Imperator Vandal (it damages so fast-), as previously mentioned it's only been modded for radiation and viral in terms of extra damage types, although it can deal impact, slash and puncture fairly well whenever homegirl mc "robo-spider" here decides to cycle to either of those
Lavos my beloved.
People are "screetching" about the dante nerfs? Jesus man I was kinda sad but if you do what any true gigichad does and just put as much ability strength on him as possible at the cost of everything else, he still gives more overguard than you'll probably ever need, amd the nuke was too much anyways
Huh, didn’t think about this implication but wow that is an effective use of this aug
ive noticed that sometimes, even if i have the right element for the profit taker, it still doesn't do damage for some reason
Might Aswell stick with what Works.... *Chroma + Exodia Contagion*
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm 4 months late, but if you have your weapon modded for, say, Radiation, and you add heat, the added heat damage from Valence just gets added to your radiation damage, instead of becoming its own instance.
I appreciate this in post nerf time.
huge respect for not dogpiling more whining about the nerfs (not that i think you're a whiny person, actually i expect you have a way more rational take than most of the forums), because most people have already heard enough about it and i enjoy these faffing around videos way more than most other warframe content.
Just built lavos, definitely need to try this setup
Thanks you for the build, I will play lavos more
I havent done this in a while, but the last time i played the Mausolon was able to shoot the Pylons from range through their shield
The first thing I thought of when I saw that augment was profit taker
Been loving the slam build lavos hes so good sampotes on top
thanks for reminding me to get rank 5 in fortuna. i’ve been playing since late 2020 and i haven’t gotten it ranked up still 😅
So if you mod a weapon for lets say, corrosive and heat, and try to apply just cold onto it with lavos, it combines with the heat to make blast, so you have to be careful how you mod your weapons with lavos.
Is that why it's Not Working ? 🤔
I was Under the Impression it worked like *Toxic Lash* 👀
Corvas Prime is a good leg buster too.
I gues lavos now is a mandatory frame with that augment against profittaker.
I don’t know if this is true, but if your weapon if modded for something like viral heat or whatever, using valence for like cold, the cold and heat will combine into blast instead of cold+heat. tho the elements were just an example, i THINK this is how it works
nic editing (:
messed around and did the same too last week
About why you couldn't damage it some of the time, although the force procs will always the infused type the damage is added to the weapon like an elemental mod and will combine with other elements on the weapon, it's not coded as an additional hit like Sayren's 3 lol.
As a Lavos sampotes main, I must say I Cnt wait for Lavos to get a Prime because normal Lavos, all his skins suck which is a crime for how amazing this frame is
Day 35: Can you please do the dark split sword in both heavy blade and dual dagger mode please, or the zylok prime incarns?
There's some arcane that proc off status effects. Like Melee Influence. I wonder if Lavos can stack the arcane buffs.
Try Vastilok with Lavos and melee influence
It's a nuke within itself
As a true Lavos Main, I'll make a OT build.
P.S: Im dumb, I can't subsumen anything, There must be away to increase damage without abilities
I am pretty sure there is an internal cooldown for adding new elements.
To me this is a gamechanger, I keep forgetting wich weapon is what element xD and sometimes I acidently use a "bugged" weapon like the radial portion of the sporelacer don't dealing damage.
Damage combines i believe but procs are separate.
yeah i ahd a similar issue i used toxin infuse and corpus didnt take any hp dmg besides from the dot
I only decided to give Lavos a try because of TheKengineer... Lavos is now within my top 3 frames, ESPECIALLY after his newest augment
Edit: I made my Lavos into an Umbral build, and it facetanks on par with Inaros
^doubt it
Also, "umbral build" on lavos is kind of a waste. But that might be subjective, IMO all umbral mods are moh, why waste slots in health and armor when you got better things to mod for.
@@DavidUtau good for you buddy
Just like, staring at the primed dmg mod sitting there not equipped wondering if you didnt put it on cuz not everyone has it lol
i wish de would make health tanks viable for lvl cap, i love lavos but there can be some issues.
Haven’t finished the video but I think I know why you couldn’t deal damage with heat or toxin. For some reason if another part of you kit out damages your current weapon it will sometimes deal no damage. My viral operator arcane gets me all the time with this because my amp’s alt fire deals not viral damage than anything else in my kit even if the arcane hasn’t proced (procced?)
so uh, what about Chroma?
honestly the problems surrounding overguards anti-synergy with chroma just proves even more that he needs a rework imo, not at all dante's fault.
Volt is the best frame for pt
4 Minutes on Average for my Chroma.
Needs more prime surefooted
Yip don't put any single element on your weapon etc . Because it combines..
I'm mad that you thought of this before I did. My only choice is to take out my anger on the Profit Taker. You proud of yourself?
Baruuk with serene storm?
can
great video👍
1:37 - spOIder hahaha
Dante is getting nerfed already? I haven't even been able to farm him yet...
They Barely Scratched Him.... He's still the Same in All the Ways That Matter.
Dante got nerfed REEEEEEEE
yeah that got reverted
You get 1 Minute Runs by Damaging Profit Taker So Hard You just Flatout Skip the Pylon Phases....
In other words... It's a -Bug- *"Feature"*
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
To be fair, our "screeching" is necessary. Its not about the Nerfs, its the baseless excuses and continuing indifferent attitude towards already opressive frames. Along with them NOT fixing bugs before making Nerfs.
DE: "We don't want Warframes that Automate, Disrupt, or Dominate gameplay.
Also DE: Allows MESA to be an instant aimbot in any direction, Octavia to have infinitely scaling damage on an automated rolling robot that both tracks and attracts enemies to it. Mirage lays traps that invalidate Survival, Sanctuary, and any Defense map, which is all fucking 3 of the things DE "doesn't want." Limbo continues to exist and is abysmal in his existence (people wouldn't be as upset about Limbo if he was actually fucking useful). Along with Saryn and Wisp completely dominating gameplay across the board. I thought for once DE was going to have a Male frame which felt good. But of course, Dante doesn't have ass or tits, so, back down to A tier you go nerd.
The only, ONLY thing Dante was dominant at is the base star chart. Once enemies get to more difficult levels, around 150+ His survival is ABYSMAL because all that protects him is overshield, which even at 50k over shield, this was BARELY enough for 150+ let alone going to max. The issue is that most people played him in Sanctuary and star chart where ANY FRAME can be oppressive and powerful.
Try the steelpath Assassination Mission with The Fragmented. Dante is useless since the Boss wipes away all overshields with multiple abilities. Nothing in the normal star chart can counter overshields, it's a new mechanic. The Mechanic is what is strong, not the frame.
I used to think the whole "female frames are more powerful than male frames" was a joke, but here we are, with further evidence that everything Dante can do, another frame can do better. There are 5 frames that have been top tier for fucking YEARS with automated, disruptive, and dominant gameplay, and yet, here we are arguing about the NEWEST one, as opposed to the old ones that have had literal YEARS to perform at their peak.
The Nerfs don't upset us. It's the fucking baseless excuses.
My biggest complaint with this Dante patch is that DE decided to sent out the nerfs BEFORE fixes. Wordwarden doesn't apply the Canticle mods (a core feature of the weapon and Dante's kit) and there are the blinding fucking spinny words (happens in your video at 2:43) that happen for no reason all the time. It is a fucking kick in the teeth.
Noooo! It's talked about! Now they are going to nerf it to the point of irrelevance ;0;
They won’t nerf it. Volt can get one minute pt kills and he never got nerfed
Why would they Nerf something that's Worse than what people are already Using ? 🤔
Cry more nerd
I mean this is cool but it’ll never be as fast a volt with a profit taker speedrun setup
“NoT aS fAsT aS VoLt” 🤓🤡
@@justinfarias255 ?
Can pp give me forma bundles? Iam jonnes44
nuframe got nerd sads
me: u new here lolololol?
first?
Just saying; i unsubscribed after about 6 or so years, not because of your content (i really enjoy it) but because of the absolute shit show DE had been with the Dante nerfs and how they treated the community over it. I'll miss your content but such is life. I wish you all the beat in life.
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