and also showing it off with mandatory 2 corroshards game was never balanced for. Same with viral. This much status on non ele/tox/heat is just wasteful. Just cast Molt 14x each time you want to kill something. Ezz win.
"And this is the riven I use" I instantly feel disappointed when watching a build video. Ah yes, let me spend 1k plat or 400k Kuva for a weapon I'll use for 3 hours LOL
Petition to make us choose an additional polarity IF a weapon requires a forma. Like the fact that this thing costs 3 forma yet has only 1 polarity is criminal
Why... Forma are so abundant and this is a decent weapon as shown in the video... I think a different build than he's got would be even better as well.
Twin khomaks were, and probably will still be, a sleeper weapon. Its been a pretty good weapon for at least a couple of years now its just always underlooked.
If you think about it, this is everything a single target Cascadia Empowered setup wants: High pellet count, high status chance, high fire rate, no care in the world about base damage. it is basically 750 * 3.1* 2.7* current pellet count (because this weapon works like the kohm, up to 5 pellets) * 10.67 DPS from Empowered alone. That is nearly 335 thousand damage per second from that arcane alone. Combine that with no armor and of course your enemies shall vaporize. Edit: The correct value would be 115070 DPS, but the full math requires a spreadsheet to do efficiently. To spare the details, it is 750 * an average of 14.379 procs per shot * 10.67 shots per second.
@@lookalike4805 What about frames with abilities that force procs? Do they force on every pellet? I don't know how that works. So like Saryn, with toxic lash and her venom dose augment? I don't use shotties enough to know, especially status shotties
I'm glad that went through properly, never gifted anything before. :D ...Only to see that it was too late because you still needed to buy one for this weapon as well lmfao. Also I only recently built the twin kohmak myself (I made the mistake of selling the single kohmak a while back...), so it's great to see a really fun build for them. ...Though I personally will be sticking at 269% status for the memes.
Honestly, this beast is one of the best sleeper picks because of stuff like this. This has been one of my favorite secondaries in the game because of this for the longest time. From Pistoleer to Galvanized to Empowered builds, it really has ramped up as things have gone by. Appreciate you giving it another shot.
It's really nice that some older weapons or rough weapons are much nicer to use after all the new updates and stuff are added! Thanks for the helpful video MC!
This is one of those older weapons that always got a kick out of, but never got around to investing forma into. Because of the ammo economy. I've never sold them, though, and not just because of the crazy 3 forma needed to build them. They are fun to use, like most of those other Grineer bullet hoses! Man, now I want to dust them off and forma the crap out them...I need to think about it, but that might be mission when I log on tonight, lol. Damn you, Mr UA-cam-man!
I just want to say thanks from the bottom of my heart for this video and all of your insightful videos. You never fear going off the grain it seems and this is a weapon I wanted to work for years now and this has allowed me to make a weapons setup I can truly enjoy full bell subbed sir.
I think what did it in the end was the introduction of green shards. Cascadia Empowered weapons in general have gotten so much stronger lately thanks to the ability to full strip again.
@@lookalike4805 With corrosive procs, I mean. Making high status, corrosive/heat or corrosive/cold competitive with slash, like back in the day. Frame buffs have always come into play, and Kompressa etc. with Empowered have been strong since release (and absurdly so with external armor strip), but now they don't need *any* help.
i just got a full build on my kompressa yesterday (with the intention of using it as a primer). but then i tested it against the grineer and murmur and it was so good that i think im gonna be using it as my main room clearing weapon. i really love how strong status based weapons are rn, thx to the archon shards, as well as cascadia empowered and secondary encumber. what a time to be late game player in Warframe
First time i started Railjack this one has been a go to, for some reason it deals relatively well with railjack enemies and the wind up is always amusing when it starts ratatatatat'in the whole magazine.
This inspired me to revisit this weapon. Hilariously I already have a riven - for Reload Speed, Slash, and Status Chance... Basically both Stunning Speed and Carnis Stinger in one.
personally these are one of my favorites, i like to pair it with secondary pistoleer for unlimted ammo, do that on say wisp for fire rate and it shreds. another option is lavos with his augment because he makes every single pellet apply status.
I use them on a Nekros as those weapons can shred the Hek out of enemies, just the ammo economy tends to make them not last as long if your just using them and no other weapons or archguns to have them upt away momentarily so you can acquire more secondary ammunition.
These are sleeper weapons along with Twin Rogga and Kohm, the ammo capacity blanket nerf hurt these weapons a lot. I've built Gauss and my Harrow with Energized munitions to solve said issues.
I love the train locomotion shotties, I got a riven for them a while ago "punch through, recoil down and status chance, -crit damage" and my clan mate wanted to get rid of it for endo, I HAD TO INTERVENE, mah dudes for any other weapon or setup it would be an absolute garbage roll, but for empowered shenanigans its solves the lack of consistent multi target clears and frees the exilus for mutation.
the thrax dropping an arcane is rare like 0.33% for all 15 arcanes so like a 5 % chance to even get one is pretty hard when they are so sparce in some missions. also this would be super strong with dante i assume because he lowers the threshold for status procs so with 300 status chance on these and about 200 power strength using the bird 4th ability it would be like having ~1000% status chance
I've been running that thing with secondary encumber and the primed crit mods in place of where you have the corrosive. It rivals the Laetum for DPS potential. My only complaint, you are always reloading.
Interesting background on the start of the video lmfao 😅 DE really needs to modify the UI for the kohm and kohmak weapons to specify that the status chance listed is BEFORE the weapon ramps up, as its the only weapon class in the game that still uses the old shotgun status spread where the more pellets you have, the less status you get per pellet as its spread between them. The first few shots will have the status listed though, so it will immediately proc a bunch of status.
5:00 wait you've never had a Steel Path Thrax drop an arcane? You sir should try Void Cascade (if you haven't by now). With a mod booster you can easily get 20+ arcanes to drop off the thrax in 30 minutes
That's impressive. Can you do a "But Why" video for no Hornet Strike/Serration? Because I've noticed in a lot of you builds as of late haven't had them on.
The kuva kohm is one of my favorite weapons in the game, so to see it's secondary lil bro do very good makes me very happy. I just wish the kuva twin kohmak existed so i didn't have to spend 3 forma to try this, i would so run this with yareli with fire rate augment and arcane pistoleer.
my favourite secondary weapon, however i have never been able to make aqcuisition from that particular mission... same thing with stropha, ive killed jackal hundreds of times. NRG can be a beach Anyway, amazing analysis, nice video !
ya these weapons ive always found good the moment you full strip the armor, even at 10 corrosive and max heat strip, most enemies armor reduce dmg by so much that it just destroys any dmg these kind of setups do
Fun fact, Thrax also a good arcane farm for Molts and Cascadia if you are looking for them. Also why their prices drop like a brick.... DE made things easier here tbh
i think instead of steady hands you could use reflex draw instead for more damage. edit: stacks with twitch for 80 percent recoil reduction and more accuracy
Ya know...only thing these wont work well on at the moment is the hollowed veins, cause for what ever reason they randomly become status immune during their "stand there spewing energy" mode
Imagine how insane this would be when using Arcane Pistoleer with it's 102% ammo efficiency for secondaries! I just wish the arcane's buff was able to be refreshed while active instead of having to wait for it to drop before you can proc it again
The only thing you could do to make that twin kohmak even better is have a source of viral from somewhere.. imagine all that damage you do getting buffed by +325%.
I put rivens on my builds because I don't care if you replicate my build. I am role playing and sometimes you need one to make the build more like the character I'm doing.
Not putting a riven on so we can replicate the build is one of the reasons this channel is good.
Don't worry the comment section will more than make up for it
I'm honestly sick of rivens.
I'd sell all of mine if the two-dozen or so that I use weren't dealbreakers.
and also showing it off with mandatory 2 corroshards game was never balanced for.
Same with viral. This much status on non ele/tox/heat is just wasteful. Just cast Molt 14x each time you want to kill something. Ezz win.
"And this is the riven I use" I instantly feel disappointed when watching a build video. Ah yes, let me spend 1k plat or 400k Kuva for a weapon I'll use for 3 hours LOL
MCGamerCZ after making the Twin Kohmak works: "I did it?"
His community: "You did it, sir"
He could use it with lavos to get status + status duration
"I have a riven but I'm not gonna use it because I want you guys to be able to replicate the build"
Absolutely based
"This has sucked an immense amount of P****" -MCGamerCZ 2024
this had me dead
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just watched the end of the video XD
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Petition to make us choose an additional polarity IF a weapon requires a forma. Like the fact that this thing costs 3 forma yet has only 1 polarity is criminal
yeah, that makes perfect sense... wth, youve just made me ralise how dumb it actually is
Why... Forma are so abundant and this is a decent weapon as shown in the video... I think a different build than he's got would be even better as well.
@@derekspringer6448 why not?
you dont want less time sink in your game, especially when someting makes sense?
@@derekspringer6448 (for average player they're really not THAT abundant)
@@derekspringer6448 Forma really aren't that abundant at all.
Twin khomaks were, and probably will still be, a sleeper weapon. Its been a pretty good weapon for at least a couple of years now its just always underlooked.
one of the prime users of arcane pistoleer as well, no need for much ammo mutation if you never lose the ammo lol
I've had one in my pocket for a long while, it's a really strong weapon, but suffers from ammo economy issues and spool up.
Yeah, I've been using it with my strun for a while. Might update some mods though.
If you think about it, this is everything a single target Cascadia Empowered setup wants: High pellet count, high status chance, high fire rate, no care in the world about base damage. it is basically 750 * 3.1* 2.7* current pellet count (because this weapon works like the kohm, up to 5 pellets) * 10.67 DPS from Empowered alone. That is nearly 335 thousand damage per second from that arcane alone. Combine that with no armor and of course your enemies shall vaporize.
Edit: The correct value would be 115070 DPS, but the full math requires a spreadsheet to do efficiently.
To spare the details, it is 750 * an average of 14.379 procs per shot * 10.67 shots per second.
Not Quite... The Status Chance Gets Lower the more The Weapon Spools Up... He commented on this in The Video.
@@lookalike4805 Must've missed that.
Yep, the 310% is divided evenly among the pellets to make it work just like a shotgun.
@@lookalike4805 What about frames with abilities that force procs? Do they force on every pellet? I don't know how that works. So like Saryn, with toxic lash and her venom dose augment? I don't use shotties enough to know, especially status shotties
2:09 Why is that so funny? The way you said it, lol!
ts got me balling
How much status do you want?
Yes.
Status Intensifies.
You can turn all screen shake off in the options. That's how I have my game tbh. Great video and thanks.
The more I watch your videos, instead of actually paying attention to the weapon builds, I realize that Inaros is Violence's worst nightmare lol
It's Actually *Banshee, Frost, Khora, Sevagoth, Nova, Lavos, etc.* Violence can Easily One Shot *Inaros* like he does with Other Warframe's ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@lookalike4805in SP endurance, maybe. Except no, not even, because the augment triggers and inaros is unphased.
@samuelemmert5136
Then he'll Just One Shot You Again. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Dude, the kohm and kohmak look like such a GRENDEL arsenal
Absolutely, since they really *chew* the enemy up.
...
I'll show myself out.
I'm glad that went through properly, never gifted anything before. :D ...Only to see that it was too late because you still needed to buy one for this weapon as well lmfao.
Also I only recently built the twin kohmak myself (I made the mistake of selling the single kohmak a while back...), so it's great to see a really fun build for them.
...Though I personally will be sticking at 269% status for the memes.
Strangely enough, I gave the TK a shot after years of them collecting dust this morning. Thank you good sir!
Honestly, this beast is one of the best sleeper picks because of stuff like this. This has been one of my favorite secondaries in the game because of this for the longest time. From Pistoleer to Galvanized to Empowered builds, it really has ramped up as things have gone by. Appreciate you giving it another shot.
It's really nice that some older weapons or rough weapons are much nicer to use after all the new updates and stuff are added! Thanks for the helpful video MC!
This is one of those older weapons that always got a kick out of, but never got around to investing forma into. Because of the ammo economy. I've never sold them, though, and not just because of the crazy 3 forma needed to build them. They are fun to use, like most of those other Grineer bullet hoses! Man, now I want to dust them off and forma the crap out them...I need to think about it, but that might be mission when I log on tonight, lol. Damn you, Mr UA-cam-man!
I just want to say thanks from the bottom of my heart for this video and all of your insightful videos. You never fear going off the grain it seems and this is a weapon I wanted to work for years now and this has allowed me to make a weapons setup I can truly enjoy full bell subbed sir.
"Vvvvery strong... With the right build" perfectly describes the content you've been making recently, and I love it
I think what did it in the end was the introduction of green shards. Cascadia Empowered weapons in general have gotten so much stronger lately thanks to the ability to full strip again.
What do you mean "Again" ? We've Been Fully Armor Stripping since 2018 😱
@@lookalike4805 With corrosive procs, I mean. Making high status, corrosive/heat or corrosive/cold competitive with slash, like back in the day.
Frame buffs have always come into play, and Kompressa etc. with Empowered have been strong since release (and absurdly so with external armor strip), but now they don't need *any* help.
i just got a full build on my kompressa yesterday (with the intention of using it as a primer). but then i tested it against the grineer and murmur and it was so good that i think im gonna be using it as my main room clearing weapon. i really love how strong status based weapons are rn, thx to the archon shards, as well as cascadia empowered and secondary encumber. what a time to be late game player in Warframe
Convinced to go run the twin kohmack again thanks to this video. Much appreciated sir
I would love to see Corrosive Builds tested without two Emerald Shards as well. Plus one final test with the Riven would be fun.
If you have it, arcane pistoleer is tailor made for a weapon like this where you want to stay firing continuously as long as you can
First time i started Railjack this one has been a go to, for some reason it deals relatively well with railjack enemies and the wind up is always amusing when it starts ratatatatat'in the whole magazine.
I love the Kohm shotgun category, they're really fun with enough fire rate and multishot, loving my kuva kohm and twin kohmak
2:39 this is why you are the goat
This is such a great video, because I just built the Twin Kohmak.
These are a ton of fun!! I've been using cucumber with it, but now I think I'll switch it over. Cucumber is still great, but also empowerd :)
This inspired me to revisit this weapon. Hilariously I already have a riven - for Reload Speed, Slash, and Status Chance... Basically both Stunning Speed and Carnis Stinger in one.
OK you convinced me to finally build the twin kohmak. Lucky i got 150 forma still.
I still wanted to see the distance the riven would of gone
An absolute mile. The riven disposition on these is something to behold
personally these are one of my favorites, i like to pair it with secondary pistoleer for unlimted ammo, do that on say wisp for fire rate and it shreds. another option is lavos with his augment because he makes every single pellet apply status.
My Harrow will love this weapon, gonna try this build. Thanks alot!!
I use them on a Nekros as those weapons can shred the Hek out of enemies, just the ammo economy tends to make them not last as long if your just using them and no other weapons or archguns to have them upt away momentarily so you can acquire more secondary ammunition.
These are sleeper weapons along with Twin Rogga and Kohm, the ammo capacity blanket nerf hurt these weapons a lot. I've built Gauss and my Harrow with Energized munitions to solve said issues.
I love the train locomotion shotties, I got a riven for them a while ago "punch through, recoil down and status chance, -crit damage" and my clan mate wanted to get rid of it for endo, I HAD TO INTERVENE, mah dudes for any other weapon or setup it would be an absolute garbage roll, but for empowered shenanigans its solves the lack of consistent multi target clears and frees the exilus for mutation.
Finally, some respect being put onto this Weapon.
Ah, the old twins
They've never looked better in their old age
the thrax dropping an arcane is rare like 0.33% for all 15 arcanes so like a 5 % chance to even get one is pretty hard when they are so sparce in some missions.
also this would be super strong with dante i assume because he lowers the threshold for status procs so with 300 status chance on these and about 200 power strength using the bird 4th ability it would be like having ~1000% status chance
the instant we got the galvanized mods that add the damage per status bonus to guns was the instant these things became good.
I've been running that thing with secondary encumber and the primed crit mods in place of where you have the corrosive. It rivals the Laetum for DPS potential.
My only complaint, you are always reloading.
Pistoleer or energized munitions.
I typically used these with Cucumber, but Empowered works pretty well here too.
Talking about twin shotguns, Twin Rogga exists
Interesting background on the start of the video lmfao 😅
DE really needs to modify the UI for the kohm and kohmak weapons to specify that the status chance listed is BEFORE the weapon ramps up, as its the only weapon class in the game that still uses the old shotgun status spread where the more pellets you have, the less status you get per pellet as its spread between them.
The first few shots will have the status listed though, so it will immediately proc a bunch of status.
5:00 wait you've never had a Steel Path Thrax drop an arcane? You sir should try Void Cascade (if you haven't by now). With a mod booster you can easily get 20+ arcanes to drop off the thrax in 30 minutes
now imagine arcane pistoleer here
That's impressive. Can you do a "But Why" video for no Hornet Strike/Serration? Because I've noticed in a lot of you builds as of late haven't had them on.
Like the single khomak better for less screen shake and faster reload- fun weapon!
The kuva kohm is one of my favorite weapons in the game, so to see it's secondary lil bro do very good makes me very happy. I just wish the kuva twin kohmak existed so i didn't have to spend 3 forma to try this, i would so run this with yareli with fire rate augment and arcane pistoleer.
You might be able to salvage the falloff with Zephyr's Tailwind augment. Combining the obscene status with her Tornadoes could be fun (TM).
Maybe you should mess around with some of the Syndicate weapons. I've heard that Vaykor Hek is nice this time of year.
One of my favourite shotguns to use right now. The Rakta Cernos is a damn decent bow as well!
I love these guns, it’s like if the twin Granada was a status shotgun
After seeing what you made with those, I’m curious what you can cook up with the Twin Rogga
One of my favorite feeling weapons
They have always been a great primer because of the IPS.
my favourite secondary weapon, however i have never been able to make aqcuisition from that particular mission... same thing with stropha, ive killed jackal hundreds of times. NRG can be a beach
Anyway, amazing analysis, nice video !
i've been meaning to get them for mastery fodder, but now I will hold them near to my heart.(unlike the 10k plastids it takes to build them)
I must say went back immediately did this. Mwaah. Then put my riven back on my goodness. Geez. Now I’m like come on gimme them in EDA…love it 😅
I built mine for super rate of fire, like the Kohm.
It basically turns into a lawnmower before you run out of ammo.
Also if you add Xata's Whisper to it, it just turns into complete nonsense.
This build will go crazy on a non-melee kullervo, hydroid, mirage, and a nourish saryn.
If you equip this weapon with Koumei whenever her secondary is being buffed by her passive, will melt anything in your way
ya these weapons ive always found good the moment you full strip the armor, even at 10 corrosive and max heat strip, most enemies armor reduce dmg by so much that it just destroys any dmg these kind of setups do
This looks like it would be VERY fun with arcane pistoleer… I’d love to see that with this weapon.
well, i think the strenght come from cascadia empowered, and the ridicules number of bullets/pellets these guns can throw out, still, great video.
I think your Inaros has 2 emerald shards with +2 corrosive procs cap, you are fully stripping armor with regular shots.
This looks like it'd be real fun paired with my Energized Munitions Gauss
0:23 confirmed MrGamerClownZhorn
Fun fact, Thrax also a good arcane farm for Molts and Cascadia if you are looking for them. Also why their prices drop like a brick.... DE made things easier here tbh
yes this thing costs three mother fnjfer forma.
i think instead of steady hands you could use reflex draw instead for more damage.
edit: stacks with twitch for 80 percent recoil reduction and more accuracy
please try and do the same glowup for the stugg, my bf really want's to use it..
Had these sitting in my foundry for 3 months
Ya know...only thing these wont work well on at the moment is the hollowed veins, cause for what ever reason they randomly become status immune during their "stand there spewing energy" mode
Imagine how insane this would be when using Arcane Pistoleer with it's 102% ammo efficiency for secondaries! I just wish the arcane's buff was able to be refreshed while active instead of having to wait for it to drop before you can proc it again
I'm gonna put this on my 300% duration Energized Munitions Gauss Prime build.
Hi MC can you make a video about this week's Elite Deep Archimedea?
Ooh spicy! Would Cucumber also work?
i love the khomak i got a riven with 330% damage and 125% heat its been insane
I like the way he did it without riven even he have it!
Now we just need melee weapons in both the grakata and kohm families so we can have full Kohmkata loadouts.
isnt carrier a bonus seeing as its weapon is getting a massive buff? would love to see a build on it and its weapon
god DAMN thats a good build
The only thing you could do to make that twin kohmak even better is have a source of viral from somewhere.. imagine all that damage you do getting buffed by +325%.
Now I want to see that with a banger of a riven xD
Do you think you will revisit thw marelok or euphona variants ??
Finally i can go back to wf and continue steel path with this build
I put rivens on my builds because I don't care if you replicate my build. I am role playing and sometimes you need one to make the build more like the character I'm doing.
I'm starting to get the idea that he likes status secondaries.
If you like this you should try the alternox with pure corrosive and green shards, it does the same insta armo strip thing 😂
I'm so daffy, I thought this video was you announcing you were gonna take a 310% hiatus from making these videos.
Throw on Arcane Pistoleer and Velocity and watch as it becomes a water hose of bullets
imagine these with the new lavos augment for even more statuses
I want a wraith or Kuva version of these.... ALMOST as bad as I want a Sobek Wraith!!!
My main takeaway from this video that I should really farm up Cascadia Empowered
any particular reason for running galvanized shot instead of sure shot?
Is there a way to send a weapon build to the good sir for his perusal?
"Yes! This thing costs 3 mother huhu forma!"
I hate that the stat sheet for weapons doesn't include Reload speed anymore