The Sig Cross In-Depth article I worte on the SIG Cross kurtthegunsmit... Affiliate links: Save 10% at Brownells.com on orders over $150 using code KTG10
This is thē best video I’ve seen yet on a mid to deep dive on what differentiates the Cross versus other rifles I’m looking at. Great work - keep it up!! 🤜🏻💥🤛🏻
For those of us that put night vision in front of our optical scope for pig hunts, there should be an option to put a rail on the handguard like the POF Rogue. No reason to spent another $500 to upgrade to STX just for that reason.
That buttstock is butt ugly - I'd start there and simplify. About 3 clicks of length of pull adjustment in a streamlined (ar carbine style) would do it for me.
Really nice review! A lot of reviewers have commented on the bolt moving back slightly and having to move the bolt forward slightly to return and lock it, but never explain why. They just leave it as having a sticky bolt action. Another thing they comment on is the safety not completely returning to the safe from the fire position. The safety is activated, but it's not completely in the safe position unless you double move it there. Have you experienced that?
@@kurtthegunsmith A couple reviewers commented during their reviews that the SIG's bolt action isn't as smooth, being notchy feeling, as you'd expect it to be. Some reviewers made a big deal about the engagement of the safety that seems to be a superfluous detent and others just mention it in passing. I've never checked one out in person so I can't expand on those comments. I'm just trying to get the views of actual users of the rifle on it as I am considering buying one.
One of first production bolt action rifle with barrel extantion it is Steyr Scout. I always wonder why bolt action rifle manufacture dont use this more offten
Great video thanks for the in-depth info. Would be great to see a video of you hunting with the Cross in Montana. As far as hunting in Montana what’s the process you have to go through to be able to go on a hunt there? where would one begin if they wanted to give it a try?
Unfortunately, I won't be doing any filming while out hunting, I don't like any interruptions when I'm hunting! If you are interested in hunting Montana, check out their FWP website. It is a wealth of knowledge and will help you walk through it. Montana is a draw so you will need to apply for a tag next year.
Only other rifle with receiver...and barrel in one piece is Steyr Monobloc but it is $$$$ and heavy. This sounds like reliabke option for the mountain hunts aa you said. I worry only what is recoil from .308 in such light rifle?
I have one and its not bad. It was my first rifle and my brother helped me break it in; 80 Rounds later and my shoulder was bruised but not too sore (I'm 30 years old). After we found what ammunition it liked we installed a muzzle brake and that brought the recoil down to basically nothing. I could shoot my 308 ALL DAY now, and not get a bruise.
@@kurtthegunsmithI also have the same question as the other guy about 50mm on medium rings? Getting the cross for Christmas, already have a scope to put on it, and just bought medium rings to try
For the average Joe hunter which is the vast majority of the community this style of a rifle is not the modern day hunting rifle. Chassis rifles are too heavy for packing in the field. They are Tripod rifles not off hand guns!
I don't disagree with anything you've said there about the average joe hunter. However, this does seem to be the direction manufacturers are going; the Steyr scout rifle, while ugly as can be, uses this barrel extension concept in a more traditional-looking rifle.
@@kurtthegunsmith Out west maybe for the tree stand hunter but not here in the Pacific Northwest.. 99% of chassis style rifles are to heavy to pack when climbing 1000"s of feet in elevation or going up and down 1/2 mile deep canyons! .
@@baileymoto "Style" I said! This is pretty much the cheapest in the 6-7lb chassis range. Everything else is $3k or more. Lil high for a hunting rifle when factoring in glass to go with it!
@kurtthegunsmith yea but that design isn't gona take over in the hunting woods. Range n target yea probly a better design. This is a passing fad as a hunting rifle. After few seasons lugging that heavy chunk of metal .guys will come back . There is always fads. but they always come back to the tried n true flush fit mag or floorplate classic rifle design. With sporter barrels. It just works.
@kurtthegunsmith I hunted w a lightweight ar10 for years. Soon as I went back to my 8lb classic weatherby hunting rifle. I was like hello old friend! Just feels right w a good Montecarlo weatherby on the sholder
This is thē best video I’ve seen yet on a mid to deep dive on what differentiates the Cross versus other rifles I’m looking at. Great work - keep it up!!
🤜🏻💥🤛🏻
Thank you! There will be more to come!
Please keep the cross vids coming. I really appreciate how you explain everything.
Excellent video! Your explanation of things was very helpful. These changes are a welcome shift in my opinion. Thank you!
I’m actually working with Strike Industries on some cool aftermarket upgrades for the Cross, including a new handguard!
Awesome! I would love to see a carbon fiber handguard...
@@kurtthegunsmith I'd recommend taking a mold of the hand guard the offer now and making your own CF cast. Super easy to do in all honesty.
For those of us that put night vision in front of our optical scope for pig hunts, there should be an option to put a rail on the handguard like the POF Rogue. No reason to spent another $500 to upgrade to STX just for that reason.
That buttstock is butt ugly - I'd start there and simplify. About 3 clicks of length of pull adjustment in a streamlined (ar carbine style) would do it for me.
I think something that would be great for the cross is a picatinny stock adapter mount to open up aftermarket stock options.
It has a lot of the same features as the MRAD just scaled down to a more manageable size and cost. Great rifles!
Really nice review! A lot of reviewers have commented on the bolt moving back slightly and having to move the bolt forward slightly to return and lock it, but never explain why. They just leave it as having a sticky bolt action. Another thing they comment on is the safety not completely returning to the safe from the fire position. The safety is activated, but it's not completely in the safe position unless you double move it there. Have you experienced that?
I've noticed the safety sticking a little but am not sure what you mean by the bolt movement
@@kurtthegunsmith A couple reviewers commented during their reviews that the SIG's bolt action isn't as smooth, being notchy feeling, as you'd expect it to be. Some reviewers made a big deal about the engagement of the safety that seems to be a superfluous detent and others just mention it in passing. I've never checked one out in person so I can't expand on those comments. I'm just trying to get the views of actual users of the rifle on it as I am considering buying one.
A proper 'game changer' in a lot of ways. Thanks for offering a more technical appreciation. Any news of Sig offering different barrels?
No news on that, last I heard was they weren't getting the accuracy they wanted out of the 277 Fury barrels so they were still in development
There are about 10 companies offering barrels now
I’m going with a proof research carbon barrel🤷🏽♂️
Good info! I was in the 80% want category before, now i’m at 99.99% thanks to your details. Good video.
Glad you liked it! If you have any other questions feel free to reach out!
Glad you liked it! If you have any other questions, feel free to reach out!
@@kurtthegunsmith what factory ammo brand, weight, and round did yours group best with?
Great job with the video! Just waiting for the 6 creed version, then I'm a buyer.
There is!
One of first production bolt action rifle with barrel extantion it is Steyr Scout. I always wonder why bolt action rifle manufacture dont use this more offten
I'll stick with a q fix. With my free suppressor.
Great video thanks for the in-depth info. Would be great to see a video of you hunting with the Cross in Montana. As far as hunting in Montana what’s the process you have to go through to be able to go on a hunt there? where would one begin if they wanted to give it a try?
Unfortunately, I won't be doing any filming while out hunting, I don't like any interruptions when I'm hunting! If you are interested in hunting Montana, check out their FWP website. It is a wealth of knowledge and will help you walk through it. Montana is a draw so you will need to apply for a tag next year.
Please post if your find a carbon barrel for the cross! I would trust ur judgement
Great video , thinking of getting the spx. if i wanted to take out the handguard to rattle can. will i be able to without issue
Yes, just have to remove the scoper rail first
Only other rifle with receiver...and barrel in one piece is Steyr Monobloc but it is $$$$ and heavy. This sounds like reliabke option for the mountain hunts aa you said. I worry only what is recoil from .308 in such light rifle?
I have one and its not bad. It was my first rifle and my brother helped me break it in; 80 Rounds later and my shoulder was bruised but not too sore (I'm 30 years old). After we found what ammunition it liked we installed a muzzle brake and that brought the recoil down to basically nothing. I could shoot my 308 ALL DAY now, and not get a bruise.
What size objective on scope? And what height rings?
50mm objective, Talley high rings
Thanks
Do you think you could get away with medium rings and a 50 mm objective?
@@kurtthegunsmithI also have the same question as the other guy about 50mm on medium rings? Getting the cross for Christmas, already have a scope to put on it, and just bought medium rings to try
Nice rifle but a bad trigger, especially with regards to overtravel.
For the average Joe hunter which is the vast majority of the community this style of a rifle is not the modern day hunting rifle. Chassis rifles are too heavy for packing in the field. They are Tripod rifles not off hand guns!
I don't disagree with anything you've said there about the average joe hunter. However, this does seem to be the direction manufacturers are going; the Steyr scout rifle, while ugly as can be, uses this barrel extension concept in a more traditional-looking rifle.
@@kurtthegunsmith Out west maybe for the tree stand hunter but not here in the Pacific Northwest.. 99% of chassis style rifles are to heavy to pack when climbing 1000"s of feet in elevation or going up and down 1/2 mile deep canyons!
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I mean, this thing weighs the same as a tikka t3x lite. 🤷
@@baileymoto "Style" I said!
This is pretty much the cheapest in the 6-7lb chassis range. Everything else is $3k or more. Lil high for a hunting rifle when factoring in glass to go with it!
@@MrDan1509 Ah, gotcha!
I disagree. Big mags hanging from a rifle is clunky and dont carry well.
I agree with you, unfortunately, it seems like detachable mags are the way the market is headed.
@kurtthegunsmith yea but that design isn't gona take over in the hunting woods. Range n target yea probly a better design. This is a passing fad as a hunting rifle. After few seasons lugging that heavy chunk of metal .guys will come back . There is always fads. but they always come back to the tried n true flush fit mag or floorplate classic rifle design. With sporter barrels. It just works.
@kurtthegunsmith I hunted w a lightweight ar10 for years. Soon as I went back to my 8lb classic weatherby hunting rifle. I was like hello old friend! Just feels right w a good Montecarlo weatherby on the sholder
mountain hunting rifle? hahahaha bro thats a PRS Precision Rifle. if you need a 10 round mag for hunting you maybe should change your hobby
Carried it for 8 days in Montana this year, didn't have any issues, weighs around 9 lbs. And I definitely do not hunt with a 10 rd mag hahaha