Growing Grumichama Fruiting Shrub
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- Опубліковано 3 гру 2015
- Growing the Grumichama fruit shrub description and what the fruit tastes like.
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Thanks Mark for showcasing all these amazing edibles, really appreciate it👍
You never cease to amaze me with the many things that you grow that I have never heard of ; )
+Keyplayr61 Greenhouse Hydroponics And Gardens Hey Keith, well I'm a sucker for unusual plants and some turn out wonderful and others are failures but if it's different I'm trying it! Cheers mate :)
Thanks Mark. I like your vids mate !
Thanks for sharing this awesome fruit,Mark. Btw, I can't help noticing Scooter loves to follow you and eating everything you try to eat. :D Cheers!
Thank you! Yes Scooter tends to get into most of my videos - he's a real photo bomber! Cheers :)
Another tropical/subtropical fruit I've never heard of. Interesting video!
+Silver Siren Thank you! I'm glad you found it interesting - I do have a soft spot for different food plants (some work some don't) that's the fun of it for me besides the eating part, of course... LOL Cheers :)
Interesting! Had to look this up. Seems like I could grow it here but I would have to protect it through the hard parts of the winter. I like that it ripens quickly. Would be worth the extra protection in winter due to our shorter growing season.
+The Self Sufficient Life Yeah, it actually caught me off guard (again) this year by how fast the fruit develops from flowering to ripe - seemingly overnight! I had to shoot the video quickly because the wind had come up and was shedding all the fruit but luckily I was able to salvage most of them. I'm making the jam today - see how it goes... Cheers :)
That fruit looks like a member of the Eugenia family, same group as the Surinam Cherry. I always enjoy your videos.
Ive seen this shrub described under several common names, the one I stick with is tropical cherry as its easy to remember :) Good vid!!
+mick watson Hey Mick, tropical cherry sounds like a good name for it and easier to pronounce than Grumichama! Cheers mate :)
Easy to remember but it is not a tropical tree
Suggestions for companion planting? Have heard insects spiders a prob coriander? Perhaps. Or similar companions to most fruit trees like marigold chivez dill etc?
Yummy!…I Had My Very First Feed Of Grumichama Brazilian Cherrys 2Day!…Growen In Cardwell NQLD!
Verry good
It is also native to Uruguay with the name of Ibaporoiti, its fruit is very tasty
What kinda of fertilizer is good for them do they like acidic fertilizer?
WOULD YOU SAY THIS IS A MEDIUM WATER TREE ? OR OTHER ? CAN IT BECOME SOMEWHAT DROUGHT TOLERANT ? THX !
we have this in Hawaii and lady apples
Hello. For all know, this grumixama, there is a "version" dwarf. I have in my garden this dwarf grumixama. Not produced yet.
Does the tree need 12hrs darkness to flower?
How do you plant it?
how do you propagate Grumis?
Hi,
You find some wonderful plants and have some great ideas, thank you for the uploads.;=)
Looking at this I thought it was just a hedge but how cool would it be to have a corner of your planting space with this there and if you can think of a way to stop the fruit dropping onto the ground, and stop it getting eaten by animals that would be great, and helpful for the sales of this plant.
How old is this plant and do you have to water it very often?
If the fruit is really special to you and say another larger sized fruit tree or bush is one of your favourite, maybe you could take a cutting of either and transplant, maybe see if you can persuade fruit to grow bigger firmer and maybe sweeter and to grow more fruit per plant. I cannot tell what land you have, but if it was possible and you had enough room, maybe you could grow this and other plants espalier? It might be easier to prune and to pick, and ultimately to find space for something espalier as two or three or more bushes could grow in a space taken by an otherwise random bushy plant? Just a thought.
I wonder if you can do a video of your other food and or snack based fruits, that would be cool, especially for us in the UK where we would be unlikely to get most of what you grow? Just imagine all your jealous fans wondering what things are like and how they taste?
Take care, And good luck with your trial Jam, I am assuming you can put the whole fruit in to make it and remove the stones as you spread it eh?
mrbluenun
+mrbluenun Hi, my shrub is about 4 years old and it will survive dry conditions and harsh periods but it does best with good rainfall or regular watering. I don't generally water it at all...
Yeah we do espalier some of our trees and it's a great way (and good idea) to grow fruiting plants but I think this type of shrub is best grown as a bush.
Forsure, I do want to eventually cover all our fruiting trees and plants on our property with taste testing videos etc. We have over 80 fruit trees here many are still quite young but my aim is to grow and show as many different varieties of food plants possible on my UA-cam channel!
Yes exactly as you say about making the jam, I won't get much from my pickings but hopefully it will work out. I have a feeling it should make a nice purple plum like jam by using it whole and then straining it through a sieve. Well see...
Thanks for your comments and suggestions! Cheers :)
Of course never even heard of that here. A great looking plant plus fruit you can't go wrong there. I take it it's a native plant?
+Dale Calder No I don't think it is native to Aust Dale - I think it's originally from Brazil... Apparently, the purple skin is full of antioxidants, I'm going to try making jam today. Cheers :)
Never heard of that one before Mark, I wonder if it will cope with the UK (south) weather
+Graham R Dyer Not sure Graham but it supposedly can withstand light frosts so if protected maybe... It's native to Brazil. Cheers :)
ADD: I live on the coast of the midnorth coast of NSW
Thanks for the look Mark. Have heard a few folks recommend them to us now.
The million dollar question is, do they get hit with fruit fly ? :-D
Cheers mate.
+RobBobs Backyard Farming I should have mentioned that in the video and sadly the answer is yes :( What's worse is you can't see the sting so the fruit looks good until it's opened... The ones I collected half were stung so I couldn't make that jam and will have to net plus bait next season - bugger it. Cheers :)
+Self Sufficient Me
Thanks for the heads up mate. Looking for fruiting trees that don't get hit for the new gardens here.
RobBobs Backyard Farming What about a Barbados cherry (Acerola) it doesn't usually get stung?
+Self Sufficient Me
I had a cutting from Ben but it didn't make it unfortunately. I do have a local friend that has a bush so might pinch a branch or 2 from her & try again. ;)
Miss seeing all the tropical s plants.
+yack f zay Yeah the lush plants in the tropics is one of the best parts about it. Cheers :)
Cheers Mark. Pretty sure I planted one at some stage though I have no idea where I put it. Looks a lot like jaboticaba fruit except for the guava end. I'm really hanging out for my acerola cherry to fruit it's been in the ground for almost 2 years although it's nothing like the size of your grumichama.
+Ben Jamin Yes it does look like the jaboticaba (I don't have one just seen the pics) does the Jab get hit by fruit fly? The acerola cherry is a nice tree/shrub I probably prefer it's fruit over the grumichama.
+Self Sufficient Me Yeah I'm not overly fussed on the jaboticaba fruit although they taste a great deal better when they ripen fully than picked too early. They have a tough skin which most people spit out and a small seed. Mine are very young and they take a while to bare fruit but a very pretty tree when larger. The fruit on an acerola are really tasty and the bush grows quickly from a cutting. Should have a flush of fruit any time now and will definitely get a few more growing. I would love a hedge of them especially given the high bit C content of the berries. They are the closest I've had to a true cherry in the tropics. I'd guess that they'd have minimal fruit fly problems because of the small fruit but Rob lost a heap of blueberries to them this year. The good thing is that they tend to fruit under wet conditions which may be past when the fruit fly are really active. Or can be tricked into fruiting at certain times of the year by watering.
Ben Jamin My acerola died back suddenly about 18 mths ago I think it got hit by a borer... not sure, but it was a lovely bush. It's trying to come back now from the stump but I might have to buy another one. Fruit fly did hit my fruit sometimes but it wasn't a major problem I reckon the fruit is too acidic for the eggs to survive same for why they don't develop in cherry tomatoes (that's my theory). Here's a quick blog post on mine: www.selfsufficientme.com/fruit-vegetables/barbados-cherry-acerola-growing
how taste ?the grumichama?
Montagnard jarai indigenous we called boh kmou they grow wild.
Can you take the trimmings and root them? Or do they grow fast from seed? Thanks for sharing!
+Benja's Uber 1337 Hobby Hi, yes they do grow well both from seed and cuttings. Sorry about the late response this comment was flagged as spam and I didn't see it... Cheers :)
I've had a couple of them planted on the ground for 2 years and they are growing incredibly slow. They look healthy, so I don't know what the problem is. I'm in Florida, USA, and there is plenty of sunshine. I also keep the ground watered as necessary. It also gets regular fertilizer applications. I'm wondering if the sandy soil is not helping. Any idea Mark?
I'm in Fl. to. I have Grumis. They do grow slow. Not as slow as Pitomba or Pitatamatuba.
@@randywiley1220 My Pitomba is actually growing faster than the Grumichamas, believe it or not. That's why I'm worried. It is very very slow.
Hi Mark, I have a Crumichama in my courtyard. Part shade, part sun. I have kept it at about 2 metres high. The disappointing thing is it has never fruited. It has always been incredibly healthy looking. Must be 8 years old now and I'm interested to know how I can encourage it to flower?
Cheers M-Lou
Marie-Loiuse, I read somewhere a fair while ago, that they like full sun up until lunchtime and then dappled light in the afternoon. My father grew one and a japoticaba in full sun, but that was in tropical North Queensland, where it's a drought if it doesn't rain for 3 weeks, and they both fruited like mad. I am growing one in a 20+" rainfall area ,and frosts, it's about 5 years old and I've just opened up the canopy of the shade tree that it's under to catch the morning sun, so we'll see how it goes, fingers crossed.
Nice tree, thinking of buying one.
Do you find the fruit resistant to Queensland fruit fly ?
+George Gibson Hey George, nope the bloody fruit fly do hit it and it's really hard to see if the fruit is stug or not until you see the maggots inside... I'll need to net my tree or put up baits next season. :(
+Self Sufficient Me Thanks for the warning.
how to grow or how to eat?
Olá parabéns pelo trabalho!!!!
Onde moro existe uma árvore de grumixama, cresci comendo essa fruta tão saborosa, ela faz parte de minha infância, gostaria de saber como faço para poder ter uma muda dela. posso pegar alguns galhos ou é melhor plantá-la por meio de sementes????
Acho que eh por semente.
ou enxerto
Oi amigo pode ser feito por estaquia também. Tem o canal SAFARI GARDEN aqui do youtube, de um brasileiro que cultiva várias espécies frutíferas. E deve ter mudas ou árvores em vasos a ponto de produção lá.
You could bring the chickens and ducks through to clean up the fallen fruit that you cannot salvage depending on how secure that would be.
+LKH Fun Yeah good idea but I just collect them by hand anyway and throw them down the pen - my chickens and ducks are about 100 yards away down the hill and I don't let them out of their safe free ranging area - I don't want to tempt the neighbours dogs LOL Cheers :)
I'm looking for a plant here in Hawaii. So far,no luck. Nice video!
Thanks Dennis! A Grumichama would grow well in Hawaii best of luck finding one. Cheers :)
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In Hawaii, the fruits are heavily attacked by the Mediterranean fruit fly
hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/morton/grumichama.html
Try the green garden guy on yt.
Dennis Nakashima
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Nice video & lovely Grumichama.
They tend to grow slow, right?
How old is your Grumichama ?
+Paul Christian Guzman Thanks Paul, yes correct mate the Grumichama is a pretty slow growing plant ours is about 5 years. Cheers :)
+Self Sufficient Me How many years before it produced fruits? Thanks
Ours fruited a small amount at around 3 years but it was growing in a sheltered position shaded out slightly so if it was in full sun it may have grown quicker and fruited more. Now that it is about 8 feet tall it's fruiting well in it's 5th year.
The grumichama is native to Brazil and belongs to a group of tropical shrubs or small trees that are excellent tropical fruits. It is not very large, usually reaching 15-20 feet at maturity with a spread of 10-12 feet.
Grumichama can be used as a specimen shrub or for hedging; it grows at a rate of about two to three feet a year under normal conditions. The leaves are 3-4 inches long, glossy dark green and have a leathery texture. New growth, as it emerges, is a beautiful light red or wine color.
The grumichama can grow in a wide variety of soils and do best in a rich acid soil. On highly alkaline sites, such as the extreme southern part of Florida, it often develops micro-nutrient deficiencies, particularly iron, manganese, and magnesium. It has a shallow root system and often requires a bit more watering than most other tropical fruits. A heavy mulch will shade the soil and help prevent evaporation of water around the plant.
rfcarchives.org.au/Next/Fruits/Grumichama/Grumichama1-89.htm
Soil
The grumichama does better on acid sand in Central Florida than it does on limestone in the south. It is reported to prefer deep, fertile, sandy loam. Sturrock says it grows well in rich clay in Cuba but is adversely affected by the long, dry season.
Propagation
Wilson Popenoe stated that propagation in Brazil is entirely by seeds which remain viable for several weeks and germinate in about a month. Fenzi says that seeds, cuttings and air-layers are employed, and Sturrock has mentioned that grafting is easy.
Culture
The grumichama is of slow growth when young unless raised in a mixture of peat moss and sand and then given a thick layer of peat moss around the roots when setting out, and kept heavily fertilized. In Hawaii, it has taken 7 years to reach 7 ft. Fruiting begins when the plants are 4 to 5 years old.
hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/morton/grumichama.html
What are your low temperatures in your winter time?
Rarely gets below 10 C.
grum-EE-chama
(not gram-ah-chama)
although the accent is kewl.
its a healthy fruit as well. lots of anthocyanins /antioxidants.
i had 2 small ones. 1 died, having trouble keeping the other alive
not sure if its PH or ?
i plan on buying a 7gallon for the yard. cant wait.
they are supposedly cold hardy to 26F or so i think
and in New Orleans, we can get that low
on the rare occasion, every few years or so.
Ok Brad thanks for the pronunciation (I'm hopeless with plant names LOL)... The main issue I have with our tree is the fruit fly stinging the berries otherwise it's excellent to have in the yard. Cheers mate :)
brad mayeux
How’d you make out I’m in your zone, 50 miles outside of Nola west of you on MS coast
hi there...i was wondering if u can share some of the seeds for planting? thanks
+beverly roquesalva Hi Beverly, I don't normally send out seeds to be honest but if you're willing to discuss it on our forum www.selfsufficientculture.com we have a seed sharing section and an internal messaging system where we can share details privately. Cheers :)
wow! tnx
They look similar to mangosteens
i always look at the title part and think that there's a meal worm moving in that dish for some reason.
+MsTokies Haha, that's a piece of onion (I hope) LOL... I might have to remove that now! Cheers :)
Self Sufficient Me it kinda moves. no dont the first time i saw it i watched it about 8 times trying to figure out what was wiggling. i think it might be a hook lol
MsTokies Just for your info, I've removed that bit in the intro and inserted some quail - you'll see it from now on in further videos. Cheers :)
Self Sufficient Me awww
Thank you for your video. Unfortunately this plant is almost extinct in Brazil.
Why is that? It seems pretty easy to grow and hardy.
@@ItsBrendo this plant is natural from the "mata atlântica" which is a rain forest that has been destroyed through the Years. We have some beautiful plants with delicious fruits that are going extinct for lack of protection and investment
can i avail of some seeds pls
I can't send seeds sorry... All the best :)
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