Omega Speedmaster 321 Ed White - The ULTIMATE? Waste of Money???

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  • Опубліковано 29 січ 2024
  • Today, we're taking a look at the Omega Speedmaster Ed White 321 watch. There are a lot of questions - like is it worth the extra money? How is it different from the moonwatch? Is it a good daily watch? How does it compare to the Rolex Daytona? Hmm..
    Omega Speedmaster Ed White: www.omegawatches.com/en-us/wa...
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  • @whereRbearsTeeth
    @whereRbearsTeeth 4 місяці тому +36

    Anyone who actually complains about having to wind their watch every day isn’t really a watch enthusiast.

    • @Mega-zi7ys
      @Mega-zi7ys 3 місяці тому +3

      Correct!

    • @BobbyDazzler888
      @BobbyDazzler888 3 місяці тому +2

      Love winding my chronometre blue and feeling the gearing on my fingertip

    • @DDWGG1
      @DDWGG1 3 місяці тому +2

      I disagree, it’s a preference

    • @annabelrobin294
      @annabelrobin294 3 місяці тому +2

      The 321 feels superb to wind.

    • @whereRbearsTeeth
      @whereRbearsTeeth 3 місяці тому +2

      @DDWGG1 good for you

  • @robynsjp
    @robynsjp 4 місяці тому +6

    Very nice. I bought my 321 - a 1967 one - in 2019. In 2021, the mainspring snapped, so it was the occasion to have it fully serviced and repaired by a retired Omega watchmaker who serviced many 321s. It is in my top 3 with 1967 5513 and 1963 Seamaster 300.

  • @chateaubullion2560
    @chateaubullion2560 4 місяці тому +8

    I'm a watch geek and I love that tactile feeling of winding my watch in the morning. I have caliber 1861 with hesalite crystal. I wanted that vintage look and I find the distortion the hesalite creates charming. You can easily get rid of the scratches with just a little PolyWatch.

  • @TheHsza
    @TheHsza 4 місяці тому +2

    Nice video, Mark. I appreciate how you present such a balanced perspective. These aspirational purchases definitely benefit from a thorough look at the pros and cons.

  • @hoosiercoinreview6428
    @hoosiercoinreview6428 4 місяці тому +3

    It's so good. Fixes everything I took issue with on the 3861 and echos my Cornes de Vache Lemania architecture nicely. Super comfortable to boot. Mine keeps +0.4 spd.

  • @Halfmoon67
    @Halfmoon67 4 місяці тому +1

    Great vid man ! Thanks for sharing

  • @hellochristhompson
    @hellochristhompson 4 місяці тому +4

    Love this watch. I especially like that it doesn't say "Professional" on the dial. So much cleaner. Also, the omission of "FIRST WATCH WORN ON THE MOON" is welcome. Is wish Omega didn't do that, it makes their standard Speedmasters, which are no doubt fantastic, almost into novelty watches. Anyhoo... Congrats man, it's a beaut! 🤩

  • @KK-qi6mt
    @KK-qi6mt 4 місяці тому +8

    Another reason to get the 321 is that it is meant to be hand made by one watchmaker at Omega. I think it is put together once, disassembled and reassembled.

    • @roycedot
      @roycedot 4 місяці тому +1

      You’re thinking of A Lange & Sohne

    • @wayneonthedrums
      @wayneonthedrums 4 місяці тому +3

      No, he's right and it mentions in this video they have a specific department just for these watches. @@roycedot

    • @beagle101ful
      @beagle101ful 3 місяці тому +1

      You are correct. It’s is assembled, taken apart and reassembled all by one watchmaker in a dedicated Artelier.

    • @roycedot
      @roycedot 3 місяці тому +1

      @@wayneonthedrums there are dedicated watchmakers for this model - yes - but I've never seen anything about the movements being assembled twice. Send a link to a source

    • @golfinguru11
      @golfinguru11 16 днів тому +1

      This is a marketing gimmick. Think about it-every time you send your Omega (any of them) in for servicing, it is “re-assembled” part by part by a watchmaker. It means nothing.

  • @Drushen07
    @Drushen07 2 місяці тому

    The ceramic bezel really makes it so aesthetically pleasing over the aluminum bezel in the 3861 version

  • @Mega-zi7ys
    @Mega-zi7ys 3 місяці тому +2

    Love the 321! A true connoisseur piece. 🎉

  • @ThorBaron
    @ThorBaron 3 місяці тому

    Great video! Learnt a lot. Just something about the Ed White on the wrist that is extra special

  • @Kostja81
    @Kostja81 2 місяці тому +1

    I own 3861 haselite version on a naylon strap.
    For me, the priority is accuracy, and the 1.5T magnetic resistance. Since I work in a highly magnetic environment.
    But I understand why some would go for 321 version.

  • @macmorgan6685
    @macmorgan6685 19 днів тому +1

    I have a 321 Speedmaster that I bought in 1967 before Ed white went to the moon- original case, original dial but I took the ss bracelet off and it now belongs to the ages. With everyone now “jonesing” over the Ed White model, what’s a real one worth?

  • @jibranm5310
    @jibranm5310 4 місяці тому +1

    Nice review, this and FOIS are my favorite Omega watches, difference being the biscuit colored Lume, one less facet on lugs and the caliber, but that's enough a difference for me 2 own both. Keep up the good work with the content! Do more independent/microbrands as well.

  • @michaelcoode1689
    @michaelcoode1689 4 місяці тому +2

    I’ve got the hesalite model at £3800 and so proud to own . Rolex elites with endless money won’t appreciate the pride of a iconic watch at a mechanic wage

    • @Mega-zi7ys
      @Mega-zi7ys 3 місяці тому

      Rolex isn't elite. I love Omega but Rolex isn't for elites at all. In Asia they're everywhere and are paraded by regular ppl who saved up or bought them using credit from other sources.

    • @whereRbearsTeeth
      @whereRbearsTeeth 3 місяці тому

      @@Mega-zi7ysyea, there are fakes/clones everywhere in Asia.

    • @Mega-zi7ys
      @Mega-zi7ys 3 місяці тому

      @@whereRbearsTeeth my man you think too little of ppl. Rolex is so common am not talking fakes. You're ignorant. Bye

    • @maromorostar6621
      @maromorostar6621 Місяць тому

      ​@@Mega-zi7ys In Asia they are everywhere because Hong Kong make the best clones, it's almost 1:1 even a professional would have difficulty spotting it's a fake. I saw a Submariner for 2500 USD in Hong Kong it was literally the same as my own original. He said even if we open them both they look the same. He was ready to show me but I was not planning to buy. I could probably also had bargained it down to maybe around 1800 USD. It was crisp and clear and felt and looked exactly the same. I was very surprised.

    • @Mega-zi7ys
      @Mega-zi7ys Місяць тому

      @@maromorostar6621 there you go again in denial. They're the real thing. 90% of all my friends have them , multiple pieces each. You're in the wrong crowd my friend am sorry. 😂
      Rolex is the most common watch in Asia and if you think ppl can't afford them you're definitely misinformed.
      But if that makes ppl in the West sleep better...be my guest.

  • @Gocho18
    @Gocho18 Місяць тому +1

    Beautiful watch, very hard to get at retail though.

  • @roycedot
    @roycedot 4 місяці тому +2

    Scratches can easily be polished out on hesalite

  • @garyb2507
    @garyb2507 29 днів тому

    Is that a Martin Logan speaker behind you?

  • @1000lightyrs
    @1000lightyrs 4 місяці тому +2

    Love my Speedy, but for sheer usability and enjoyment - Panerai P.5000 - 8 days of autonomous manual winding bliss. It's probably my favourite thing to do every Sunday.

  • @JimmyAntepara
    @JimmyAntepara 4 місяці тому +3

    This is the best speedy

  • @coldworld5
    @coldworld5 4 місяці тому +3

    The literal reality of watches is, if you scrubbed the branding, took away the resale market the speedy is superior to any Rolex the vast majority of chronographs that costs 30x the price.
    It fits perfect, it’s unbelievably good quality and it looks amazing.

  • @xekret
    @xekret 4 місяці тому

    What is the vintage hassle? Can you explain what you are referring to? I own quite a few vintage pieces and they have not been a hassle. On the contrary, they are awesome to own and wear.

    • @bikeman123
      @bikeman123 4 місяці тому +2

      Obtaining parts if ever they were required would be a pita for a vintage watch. A remake of the Ed White is good news for those of use who have the original 321, Omega are making parts again.

  • @michaeledwardlenzi
    @michaeledwardlenzi 4 місяці тому +2

    Life is tough when you have to remember to wind a watch. Such hardship.😊

    • @whereRbearsTeeth
      @whereRbearsTeeth 4 місяці тому

      A bit jealous?

    • @Mega-zi7ys
      @Mega-zi7ys 3 місяці тому

      😂😂😂

    • @Mega-zi7ys
      @Mega-zi7ys 3 місяці тому

      ​@whereRbearsTeeth i think he meant it as a ligh hearted joke.🎉

    • @whereRbearsTeeth
      @whereRbearsTeeth 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Mega-zi7yshe was poking fun because he’s jealous. Envious people tend to do that.

    • @Mega-zi7ys
      @Mega-zi7ys 3 місяці тому

      @@whereRbearsTeeth 🥹

  • @mgrant6607
    @mgrant6607 4 місяці тому

    I have one, the no crown guard case is so much better, and the idea that only people who can appreciate the watch recognize it, that's where it's at. Hand assembled, only a 3 or so a day, and the manual wind is a reason to have one, not the opposite (like a 5070P).

  • @bikeman123
    @bikeman123 4 місяці тому +1

    Good news if you need a DON bezel for your vintage watch since Omega are making them again. Bad news if you paid over the odds for one.

  • @aaronmunro5818
    @aaronmunro5818 27 днів тому

    Polished lugs and polished outer bracket links ruin the looks of this cool Speedy. Should have been brushed.

  • @willzhou5601
    @willzhou5601 4 місяці тому +6

    This is cool watch

  • @Syhbw
    @Syhbw 4 місяці тому +1

    Bought from AD/boutique or preowned/grey dealer?

  • @rkhmelnytskyy
    @rkhmelnytskyy 4 місяці тому +1

    The best looking one is a Reduced one with Automatic movement and 38mm case. But it is always very subjective of course

    • @MarkKwak
      @MarkKwak  4 місяці тому

      I'm actually a fan of the speedy reduced

  • @itsdavidroland
    @itsdavidroland 4 місяці тому +3

    I think for the difference in price, I’d pick up a regular Sapphire Moonwatch, and also Cartier Santos, and a Grand Seiko.

    • @youreoverthinkingitkid
      @youreoverthinkingitkid 4 місяці тому

      If price wasn’t a factor would you still have those three over than one ed white?

    • @whereRbearsTeeth
      @whereRbearsTeeth 4 місяці тому +2

      I wouldn’t.

    • @itsdavidroland
      @itsdavidroland 4 місяці тому

      @@youreoverthinkingitkidIf price wasn’t a factor, there’s a thousand watches I’d choose before this. Heck, give me a De Bethune DB25 lol
      Price will always be a factor though at this level of cost since it’s more of a luxury piece than purely functionality. For functionality? I can pick up a JLC dress watch and a sapphire sandwich moon watch and have something for every occasion.
      Even for the “exclusivity”, for the same amount you can look into Breguet, Moser, watches that don’t resemble the thousands of other moon watches on people’s wrists.
      I get it though, people pay several tens of thousands for a pair of special edition Jordan 1s, while others think about all the different pairs of quality shoes, for all the different occasions, that they can buy instead. In the bigger scheme, they’re just shoes though, right? Non “limited edition” are like 80% there, aren’t they? Maybe sentimental value? Collector’s item?
      To each his own though, I’m not judging anyone! haha I was talking bang for buck and functionality.

    • @itsdavidroland
      @itsdavidroland 4 місяці тому

      @@whereRbearsTeeth Awesome!

    • @itsdavidroland
      @itsdavidroland 4 місяці тому +1

      @@youreoverthinkingitkidyes, 3 watches for different occasions. Heck, I’d take a JLC and a sapphire sandwich. There’s other watches by Berguet, Moser, Grand Seiko, I would take over this one. From afar this looks like the thousands of other Speedys.
      This is a watch for collectors or HUGE speedy fans, which if you are, I understand. I’m a fan of the design but with a regular speedy you’re 90% there at 1/3 of the cost.

  • @philippeh1277
    @philippeh1277 3 місяці тому

    This is marketing ! And a great way to further grow margins

  • @TheDarlowiak
    @TheDarlowiak 4 місяці тому +1

    When I was a teen I scratched my Lanco watch , did bang it against objects on occasion , it’s bad, NOW , I learned to wear my wrist watches , without banging them or scratching , You need to grow up my friend.

  • @martinyong2806
    @martinyong2806 Місяць тому

    from 321 (column wheel) switching to ratchet wheel (861 later 1861) is not for tech advance reason but rather "cheapo under cut" consumers move as the whole assembling line can be cost cutting. after under cut customer and now putting it back again "wala" here you go the "column wheel" that originally should be there with extortion price.

  • @teakcore5261
    @teakcore5261 4 місяці тому

    A good and respectable watch for sure, but manual wind and little water resistance AND the steel ring around the aluminum bezel are major drawbacks! Even the bracelet from 3861 Professional is more elegant and finer than in this version.
    Far too expensive for me with these drawbacks, the previous Panda Daytona (which i own to be clear) destroys this Omega and was less expensive even. The caliber of the 321 may be a bit nicer but that’s it and who really cares, the wearing experience is simply worse, period.
    It even looks too big on most wrists, compared to the slimness of the Daytona.
    PS: This is my opinion of this watch as the owner of a Panda Daytona and the current sapphire Speedmaster Professional.

    • @davidutoubee1106
      @davidutoubee1106 4 місяці тому +3

      @teakcore5261 The 321 has a ceramic bezel, not an aluminum one.

    • @whereRbearsTeeth
      @whereRbearsTeeth 4 місяці тому +2

      @@davidutoubee1106😂yea, this guy is clueless

    • @lukebecker7584
      @lukebecker7584 2 місяці тому +1

      Lady’s and Gentleman this is a Rolex Fanboy par excellence

  • @moneymikz
    @moneymikz 4 місяці тому

    Winding is how you charge the watch?? Cringe 😬

    • @whereRbearsTeeth
      @whereRbearsTeeth 4 місяці тому +4

      Yea, anyone who calls it “charging” the watch clearly is not a watch guy. Just a dude with money to burn that doesn’t know anything whatsoever about horology.

    • @8AP1
      @8AP1 3 місяці тому +2

      "Charging" LOL. Stick to smart watches

  • @caseyzaft6734
    @caseyzaft6734 4 місяці тому +1

    This is such a waste of money, and an unintelligent purchase. Omega is for high school grads and Rolex 114060 is for the Gekko CEO. Omega is for little kids who can’t afford a Rolex. No cap

    • @whereRbearsTeeth
      @whereRbearsTeeth 3 місяці тому

      …says the guy wearing a Casio and living in his mom’s basement. You couldn’t afford either one so stfu.