I have one reference 3570.50.00 that I acquired at a special moment in my life and I love it. My first Speedmaster. I don't sell it and I won't exchange it for more modern references, even though I know the comfort of the new bracelet and the significant improvement that the new caliber 3861 has brought. If you use it carefully and maintain it regularly with a good watchmaker, it will last a long time. Hugs from this Brazilian spectator.
A watch that I have drooled over through many a jewellers window but alas still cant afford one not even a second hand one but I dream of having one and thats what keeps me going to work.
I felt the same for years. Bought mine last week. Keep up the hard work and I promise you it’ll pay off in huge smiles when you see it on your wrist. 👍🏼
The number of seconds indizes on the dial changed. They were not correct in the older versions (since the start of the professional dial) regarding to the beatrate of the movement. Now they fit (3 tics per second).
Great video! Thank you! 10:39 I love my hesalite Moonwatch 3861! I knew all of these and I’m glad I’m not the only one that thought the 12 o’clock marker looked like a johnson! lol
First time heard about the fight between Costco and Omega. Very interesting. Wish Costco could start to sell more watch brands at wholesale price level.
@@vvvhhhhhbb- True, but how many times have you needed the warranty? If I had a problem I’d just take it to my watchmaker and still be ahead since I never sell my watches.
My 4th watch in my collection, purchased on April 4, 2024. 1 - Tag Heuer Formula 2 - Omega Seamaster 300m (Green) 3 - Rolex Submariner (Steel) 4 - Omega Speed master (Sapphire) Hope to get many more. Goal is 1-2 per year. Target watch: Tudor Black Bay (Red) Tissot PRX Rolex GMT Master (Pepsi) - The hardest to get.
Dial typography is interesting indeed. One font that appears again and again across several brands is Eurostile, an Italian 1960s font. But then there are also Times New Roman and Helvetica. Sometimes even Arial. Given how considered watch design is, it seems weird that this does very often not extend to the typography.
I bought a hesi this week. Fully expected to buy a SS, because everyone saying how the hesi has a "warmth" to it sounded like post-purchase justification. I tried both on. Now I get it. The hesilite really does change the way the dial displays for the better over the sapphire. It's very hard to explain, but the viewing angles and somewhat of a 3D effect happen with the hesi that don't happen with the sapphire. That said...I do wish there was a hesi back option as well. I don't look at the movement often, but I do like to admire from time to time.
The Speedmaster, in his original form like those in this video, is one of the few "not super expensive" watches that hasn't been properly replicated (by now) by chinese factories, especially now that they managed to fully reproduce the 4130 from Rolex. When they do it, they use the Seagull ST19 which has the subdials farer from the center of the dial. Hence you can recognize the replica just by that and by the fact that the original has the hour markers at 3/6/9 as long as the others, while on the rep they are a tad shorter.
@@rayleeaustralia What parts of the watch are made in china? But to answer your question, yes. So far, the Rolex Cal. 4130 has been replicated properly (hence the existance of frankens, due the to replicas allowing genuine parts being swapped in no problem), and I would want to add the Patek Cal. 240 has also pretty much been replicated now (there exist replica PP 5740 perpetual calendars with free sprung weights, gold rotors and all the functions work as intended).
(From OMEGA website FAQ) All current OMEGA watches are water resistant to the depth defined by the model specifications, provided that the water resistant components are intact. This means that an OMEGA watch that is water resistant to 30 metres can be worn for swimming (with vigorous movement) at depths of up to 30 metres underwater for extended periods without restriction.
Mate are you aware that those 30m are not REALLY 30m? those 30m mean that its barely splash proof only about the 100m its swimming suitable. There are many resources where you can fact check this.
Sorry I'm new to the horological community, but wouldn't saying it is waterproof in metres mean depth in water, whereas if Omega had used 3 ATM that could be misleading cos ATM measures pressure depth, not waterproofing?
I am shopping for an everyday watch that I intend to wear as my primary watch for a very long time. ( going for a sort minimalist approach) I have narrowed it down to either Rolex GMT master ii 70hrs, or Speedy professional, sapphire. The price difference between them is nearly 100% Rolex being more expensive on the gray market, but given i intend to do this once, the price itself is not a determining factor. I have owned several Omegas, but no Rolex yet. Love the Speedy Pro look and feel though, and Rolex rubes me the wrong way with the artificial shortage and AD shenanigans. Tough choice.
If you like them both, then the Speedmaster is a no brainer, on cost and availability alone. It's also more understated, if such things matter to you. I have been a Rolex man for the best part of my time in this hobby (25 years), and still own a number of them, but find myself wearing my Speedmaster most of the time these days. Mine is the latest hesalite crystal / 3861 movement version, the sapphire version is arguably more versatile as it doesn't require the same level of care for a primary watch.
@@carlosalvarez4641 of course. The sapphire sandwich is too perfect - i like the idea notion of getting patina on the hesalite over time, and with the closed case back it’s more true to the one they take on space flights. As I already own perfect watches, I wanted this one to tell the story over the years I caution you though, should you get the hesalite, it scratches very easily. I scuffed it against the wall on day one and cried a little.
@@carlosalvarez4641 I have 5 Speedmasters which only one is sapphire and four is hesalite. Dating between 1965 to 2021, if I only could have one Speedmaster and money was a bit tight I would choose the 3570.50 from before 2014, the small box hesalite, as they are the cheapest. If you can afford a bit more it would be the tritium version from before 1998. I also have two 105.012’s from the 1960’s and an Ed White from 1966. The Ed White is the one I would keep. The next one would probably be the new 321 version if I can find the money. Speedmasters are generally good value.
I choose the sapphire version so that I can have peace of mind without needing to worry about scratching it, at the same time I could admire the beautiful calibre 3861.
I love my sapphire sandwich! And, I never noticed the 12:00 markers looking like a twig and berries until Marc from Long Island Watch pointed it out during a video with TGV. Now, I cannot un-see it.
As someone who is jonesing for a White Dial I'm glad this video exists to point out flaws that will specifically affect someone with OCD like me. The CNC markings is a turn off, now I have to really sit and think if I can live with it.
I know you're quite wary of owning too many watches Andrew, but of all the (relatively) attainable luxury sports watches you talk about, you're enthusiasm for the speedmaster makes me wonder why you haven't yet pulled the trigger on a purchase - is there any particular reason you don't own one?
I visited the Omega museum in Bienne last year and l was disappointed. There was hardly any information about using the tachy dial although it's been a feature of most of their models. I know how the dial works but there are different ways of using it and l wanted to know the reasons for different tachy bezel designs.
It’s unfortunate that we can’t have a hesalite crystal with sapphire back. None of us is going into space soon, so I’m more interested in seeing the movement, but I do like the look of the hesalite over the dial better.
Omega have built a better reputation through the years, and the watches they sell are good with quality movement. If they not adjust based on competitors prices they will just be another watch brand. People also have more money today than in 1984, and if they don't, it has become easier to finance than ever.
Definitely if it’s a Snoopy you’re after. I’ve watched the price of my mk1 Snoopy climb to £20k before dropping to £10k - £11k. Makes no odds to me as I’m not selling, however if I was buying I’d very much be interested.
My favorite 2024 is the Prospex Limited Edition 1965 Recreation European Exclusive in Gradation Island Blue. The dial is stunning and the contrast when on a white strap is to die for. I will get my hands on one from AMZWATCH
The Speedmaster is so tough for me. I started out really wanting one before I knew too much about it. Then I learned about the different versions and I couldn’t figure out which one I would want, so I went to an Omega boutique to try one on. I was instantly turned off by it and it made me sad because I really wanted to like the first watch worn on the moon and the watch that timed the 14 second burn on Apollo 13. I spent the next two years in a watch depression. Recently, I was in a watch store interested in a completely different Omega and the guy asked if I wanted to try on a Moonwatch. t first I dismissed it. I already knew that I didn’t like it. But then I caved in. I’m back in love but I can’t decide which one. How could anyone make peace with this situation?
Honestly I don’t think anyone can answer your question, only you can decide what you like and what makes you feel good. My advice is don’t rush, and continue to look around and go to an AD or boutique and try them on. If money is an issue, I would look at a mint condition discontinued version, like the 1861 or 1863. Those are a little cheaper than the new current models. You can also look at older models with an 861 movement too, it’s more vintage. If you like the new models of the 3861, then decide if you like the hesalite or Sapphire Sandwich. Good luck on your hunt! And hope you get your Speedy soon!!!
It's the 321 for me. Not just the movement. The build quality, the cermic, the size... unfortunately I like the "regular" (42mm) Moonwatch bracelet more.
According to Omega website, 50m is good for snorkeling. Modern Speedmaster has bad WR is a myth. Omega's 50m is so much more than 50m from other no name brands.
completely agree. I wish people would get over it. I've worn one pretty much every day for 30 years almost. I swim 3x a week, I've snorkel several times on holiday, water-ski, jet ski, washed the car and showered. Perfectly fine and never an issue. If you ned more than that the speedy isn't the way to go.
☝🏼the Ed white 321 has the omega Symbol engraved in the crystal too …which also somehow gets rid of the milky ring on the normal crystal models…. Witchcraft !
You clearly did not read what omega means when they say 50m water resistance. They actually mean it, with vigorous motion at that depth. But i imagine that reading the official material is not as popular as making weird statements to move the masses.
I hate to be this guy but if it’s a Greek mythological creature it would be Poseidon’s chariot. I’m sorry, I wish I didn’t have to write this, it’s a sickness.
I have a real SUB but I also bought one of these replicas from MAMACOO for piece of mind if I go to another country or if I am doing activities that can damage the watch. I don't see anything wrong with that.
@@ivanmatos6124 De fato, é uma bobagem, pois, um Dress watch dificilmente tem uma capacidade superior à 30m e nem por isso a gente deixa de comprá-lo. Mas, como o speedmaster é, em tese, um relógio esportivo (racing), me incomoda bastante saber que eu não poderia entrar numa piscina com ele, por exemplo. Acho que a Omega poderia rever isto com muita facilidade (do mesmo jeito que disponibilizou vidro de safira, ao invés de ter apenas o de Heselite). Um relógio que me chama muita atenção neste sentido é o IWC Pilot Chronograph (mesmo sem ser da mesma categoria e não ser icônico).
@@ivanmatos6124 realmente, um entusiasta (que tenh condições kkkk) não pode deixar de ter um Submariner e um Moonwatch. Sendo bem sincero, estou começando a simpatizar também com o Cartier Santos.
Caliber 3861 is hackable. A first on the Moonwatch. Also it’s now a Master Chronometer. Previous generations 321, 861, 1861 had never been certified chronometers.
I am watching this before buying the Omega Speedmaster like way way way waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before... at least like five thousand years before, if not more before
Hesalite looks better, sapphire well it’s ok but hesalite is better unless it’s the only watch you got maybe. I have a sapphire one but rarely use it as the milky white edge on the crystal is actually a bit annoying. The hesalite just looks better.
I bought this popular video watch from amzwatch , which was originally priced at a few thousand dollars, but now it's only $380! It's really suitable to pick up feces!
I’m still none the wiser. Everything tells me to buy the original but would love to be able to glance at that movement and would rather not be polishing my hesalite daily
@kelvynbettridge the 3861 movement is beautiful to look at. Living in a silicon era, when things get too hectic, it is good to take time out by popping the watch off and watching it work.
Wait. All this time I couldn’t orient the 12 o’clock position because it kept changing on my wrist. Now I can identify 🍒 and 🍆 as 12 o’clock. Gracias good sir.
Just got my 1st Speedy today! Woohoo.
How many speedy are you gonna get?😂
Got mine 3 days ago.
Haven’t worn it yet. I don’t want to touch it 😅
I just enjoy staring at it.
I’ll wear it one day 😂
Still my favourite thing ever! Absolutely love my Speedy, it'll stay with me for the rest of my years now
I have one reference 3570.50.00 that I acquired at a special moment in my life and I love it. My first Speedmaster. I don't sell it and I won't exchange it for more modern references, even though I know the comfort of the new bracelet and the significant improvement that the new caliber 3861 has brought. If you use it carefully and maintain it regularly with a good watchmaker, it will last a long time. Hugs from this Brazilian spectator.
Ordered the sapphire yesterday. Had my eye on one for the last 7 years. Finally pulled the trigger!
Likewise, walk in AD,bought the sapphire 2 weeks ago, 3861 Master Chronometer, Meta Certified, is super accurate
Congrats man
Unlike Rolex you can buy a speedy today and they are recognized as one of the most iconic timepieces of all time
@@TheJuandelaCruz09Hey bro what's and ad here ?
The saphire is my grail watch . Am saving up for it . Some day I will have one .
Same, i really want the yellow gold one
I’m saving for my first G shock. Hopefully one day
Not a fan of the milky ring though 😑👎🏼
Save up every month and put that money on a low risk investment account. Keep doing it and in a few years you will earn enough to get it for free
A watch that I have drooled over through many a jewellers window but alas still cant afford one not even a second hand one but I dream of having one and thats what keeps me going to work.
I felt the same for years. Bought mine last week. Keep up the hard work and I promise you it’ll pay off in huge smiles when you see it on your wrist. 👍🏼
The number of seconds indizes on the dial changed. They were not correct in the older versions (since the start of the professional dial) regarding to the beatrate of the movement. Now they fit (3 tics per second).
Now THAT is a fact I can get behind!
Pro tip!
Great video! Thank you! 10:39 I love my hesalite Moonwatch 3861! I knew all of these and I’m glad I’m not the only one that thought the 12 o’clock marker looked like a johnson! lol
First time heard about the fight between Costco and Omega. Very interesting. Wish Costco could start to sell more watch brands at wholesale price level.
Costco is not an authorized dealer, so Amiga will honor no warranty on any of their watches purchased through Costco.
@@vvvhhhhhbb- True, but how many times have you needed the warranty?
If I had a problem I’d just take it to my watchmaker and still be ahead since I never sell my watches.
I find shopping at Costco a miserable experience. I wouldn't go back there if everything was free.
Bought my wife a constellation at Costco 22 years ago. It just had its first servicing this past December.
@@masterdad-zf9po Yeah that's cool. Costco still carries 8 Omega models, mostly ladies watches, according to their US website.
My 4th watch in my collection, purchased on April 4, 2024.
1 - Tag Heuer Formula
2 - Omega Seamaster 300m (Green)
3 - Rolex Submariner (Steel)
4 - Omega Speed master (Sapphire)
Hope to get many more. Goal is 1-2 per year.
Target watch:
Tudor Black Bay (Red)
Tissot PRX
Rolex GMT Master (Pepsi) - The hardest to get.
Fantastic to see the Tissot, amazing watches for the price, I have the open heart gentlemen and seastar 2000, great watches.
Great collection! Check out the Seiko LX dive watch. Also amazing.
"the twelve o'clock marker is differentiated with two balls either side of the main shaft" - officially my favorite Morgan quote
Dial typography is interesting indeed. One font that appears again and again across several brands is Eurostile, an Italian 1960s font. But then there are also Times New Roman and Helvetica. Sometimes even Arial. Given how considered watch design is, it seems weird that this does very often not extend to the typography.
The hesalite looks incredible. Just got one last week.
I bought a hesi this week. Fully expected to buy a SS, because everyone saying how the hesi has a "warmth" to it sounded like post-purchase justification.
I tried both on. Now I get it. The hesilite really does change the way the dial displays for the better over the sapphire. It's very hard to explain, but the viewing angles and somewhat of a 3D effect happen with the hesi that don't happen with the sapphire.
That said...I do wish there was a hesi back option as well. I don't look at the movement often, but I do like to admire from time to time.
Amazing video. U gave me more stories to share when i wear my moonwatch. Thanks
After owning the Aqua Terra for ~2 years, I got my first speedy (black, hesalite) this week. Man does it look and feel amazing!
4:54 "differentiated with TWO BALLS" 🤣🤣 (background music and crimson channel wallpaper choice is top notch)
When it comes to fine imitation watches, amzwatch delivers. I've bought from them several times, and I've never been let down.
The Speedmaster, in his original form like those in this video, is one of the few "not super expensive" watches that hasn't been properly replicated (by now) by chinese factories, especially now that they managed to fully reproduce the 4130 from Rolex. When they do it, they use the Seagull ST19 which has the subdials farer from the center of the dial. Hence you can recognize the replica just by that and by the fact that the original has the hour markers at 3/6/9 as long as the others, while on the rep they are a tad shorter.
Even though some of the parts on the genuine watch are made in China?
@@rayleeaustralia What parts of the watch are made in china?
But to answer your question, yes. So far, the Rolex Cal. 4130 has been replicated properly (hence the existance of frankens, due the to replicas allowing genuine parts being swapped in no problem), and I would want to add the Patek Cal. 240 has also pretty much been replicated now (there exist replica PP 5740 perpetual calendars with free sprung weights, gold rotors and all the functions work as intended).
@@avexionix most if not all. Parts made in China and assembled in Switzerland
@@rayleeaustralia Wow, you really are just making stuff up, aren't you lol.
@@avexionix do some research. Talk to people who are in the industry. I am obviously wasting my time talking to you
(From OMEGA website FAQ)
All current OMEGA watches are water resistant to the depth defined by the model specifications, provided that the water resistant components are intact. This means that an OMEGA watch that is water resistant to 30 metres can be worn for swimming (with vigorous movement) at depths of up to 30 metres underwater for extended periods without restriction.
Mate are you aware that those 30m are not REALLY 30m? those 30m mean that its barely splash proof only about the 100m its swimming suitable. There are many resources where you can fact check this.
Sorry I'm new to the horological community, but wouldn't saying it is waterproof in metres mean depth in water, whereas if Omega had used 3 ATM that could be misleading cos ATM measures pressure depth, not waterproofing?
I’ve swam in mine and had no issues. It did get water inside when I went to a water park though. Think the pressure hitting the water was the issue.
Just ordered a 2019 hesalit 1861 in near mint condition, I simply love that watch and can't wait to receive it........
How much was it if you don't mind me asking
I have never been disappointed since I became a customer of gussl. Their timepieces are of exceptional quality.
I am shopping for an everyday watch that I intend to wear as my primary watch for a very long time. ( going for a sort minimalist approach) I have narrowed it down to either Rolex GMT master ii 70hrs, or Speedy professional, sapphire. The price difference between them is nearly 100% Rolex being more expensive on the gray market, but given i intend to do this once, the price itself is not a determining factor. I have owned several Omegas, but no Rolex yet. Love the Speedy Pro look and feel though, and Rolex rubes me the wrong way with the artificial shortage and AD shenanigans. Tough choice.
If you like them both, then the Speedmaster is a no brainer, on cost and availability alone. It's also more understated, if such things matter to you. I have been a Rolex man for the best part of my time in this hobby (25 years), and still own a number of them, but find myself wearing my Speedmaster most of the time these days. Mine is the latest hesalite crystal / 3861 movement version, the sapphire version is arguably more versatile as it doesn't require the same level of care for a primary watch.
Well researched. Learned a lot from this video.
I have both the sapphire sandwich and the hesalite version in my collection. Hesalite is my preferred.
Care to explain why you prefer the hesalite one? I am looking to but one of the versions, so your opinion may help me. Thanks!
@@carlosalvarez4641 of course. The sapphire sandwich is too perfect - i like the idea notion of getting patina on the hesalite over time, and with the closed case back it’s more true to the one they take on space flights. As I already own perfect watches, I wanted this one to tell the story over the years
I caution you though, should you get the hesalite, it scratches very easily. I scuffed it against the wall on day one and cried a little.
@@carlosalvarez4641 I have 5 Speedmasters which only one is sapphire and four is hesalite. Dating between 1965 to 2021, if I only could have one Speedmaster and money was a bit tight I would choose the 3570.50 from before 2014, the small box hesalite, as they are the cheapest. If you can afford a bit more it would be the tritium version from before 1998. I also have two 105.012’s from the 1960’s and an Ed White from 1966. The Ed White is the one I would keep. The next one would probably be the new 321 version if I can find the money. Speedmasters are generally good value.
@@pardhonsiThanks much!
@@carlosalvarez4641the hesilate holds the value.
This is so good. Such a well done video with careful attention to detail. *applause*
I choose the sapphire version so that I can have peace of mind without needing to worry about scratching it, at the same time I could admire the beautiful calibre 3861.
I love my sapphire sandwich! And, I never noticed the 12:00 markers looking like a twig and berries until Marc from Long Island Watch pointed it out during a video with TGV. Now, I cannot un-see it.
As someone who is jonesing for a White Dial I'm glad this video exists to point out flaws that will specifically affect someone with OCD like me. The CNC markings is a turn off, now I have to really sit and think if I can live with it.
I know you're quite wary of owning too many watches Andrew, but of all the (relatively) attainable luxury sports watches you talk about, you're enthusiasm for the speedmaster makes me wonder why you haven't yet pulled the trigger on a purchase - is there any particular reason you don't own one?
I've already had two!
ahh well now we need to know the story around that in another video! (unless I've missed that tidbit in a previous video)@@AndrewMorganWatches
I visited the Omega museum in Bienne last year and l was disappointed. There was hardly any information about using the tachy dial although it's been a feature of most of their models.
I know how the dial works but there are different ways of using it and l wanted to know the reasons for different tachy bezel designs.
On the left hand side just under the bezel there's a small indent in order to remove the bezel with a blade.
On my 1978 vintage speedmaster the original bracelet has a tiny quick release on the bracelet clasp
It’s unfortunate that we can’t have a hesalite crystal with sapphire back. None of us is going into space soon, so I’m more interested in seeing the movement, but I do like the look of the hesalite over the dial better.
MAMACOO is a must for me as a watch collector
Would rather have the applied indices than the painted on but still an amazing looking watch. Just ordered mine😊
The absence of the self winding counterweight displays more of that beautiful movement than for example the PL.
Thank you for mentioning the phallic 12 o’clock marker 😂
but the 2004 Japan Racing model is hessalite and has shiny inner bracelet thingys?
went back a forth for months before finally deciding on hesalite.
Cool content, Andrew. More of this.
Wearing shoes in bed. Ok. You got me. Why. Footnote. Stilettos punchers the Waterbed. At least, so I've been told 😂
Finally getting mine this month after years of saving :D
Andrew which one do you personally think is better the hesalite or sapphire?
I’ve been looking at this for nearly 40 years! I still can’t decide between sapphire and hesalite
Good video - cheers Andrew
I've got the Hesilyte model. Love it, but I wish I had gotten the sapphire sandwich instead.
“Hesilyte” ??
@@whereRbearsTeeth yes sir. Want to trade
@@constitutionallyconscious165 I’ve never heard of a “hesilyte”model. I have a hesalite speedmaster.
@@whereRbearsTeethCant
@@bluefish1875 ?
No Rolex reference in the thumbnail? This is my shocked face!
Yet you couldn't help yourself and mentioned them.
Wonder, does the Hesalite version still have inner soft iron casing after the upgraded movement?
My 3212.80.00, a somewhat obscure but beautifully blue version, has 100m of WR.
These are the two watches I have been salivating over. Thanks for literally removing the money from my pocket yourself🤑
Have you been lusting for one?
Love my SS 3861!!
Nice video. Love my Speedy.
I bought the original version of this moon watch in 1984 at the BX at Hahn AB, Germany. I paid $234 dollars for it. How the price has gone up.
Interestingly, adjusted for inflation.. that would be around $750 in todays money. A bargain!
Omega have built a better reputation through the years, and the watches they sell are good with quality movement. If they not adjust based on competitors prices they will just be another watch brand. People also have more money today than in 1984, and if they don't, it has become easier to finance than ever.
What I’ve noticed is that the new snoopy prices are 50% off their highs. Time to buy?
Definitely if it’s a Snoopy you’re after. I’ve watched the price of my mk1 Snoopy climb to £20k before dropping to £10k - £11k. Makes no odds to me as I’m not selling, however if I was buying I’d very much be interested.
My favorite 2024 is the Prospex Limited Edition 1965 Recreation European Exclusive in Gradation Island Blue. The dial is stunning and the contrast when on a white strap is to die for. I will get my hands on one from AMZWATCH
Anyone know exactly what that Rolex at 2:53 is? It doesn’t have a “Mercedes” hour hand like normal subs.
The Speedmaster is so tough for me. I started out really wanting one before I knew too much about it. Then I learned about the different versions and I couldn’t figure out which one I would want, so I went to an Omega boutique to try one on. I was instantly turned off by it and it made me sad because I really wanted to like the first watch worn on the moon and the watch that timed the 14 second burn on Apollo 13. I spent the next two years in a watch depression. Recently, I was in a watch store interested in a completely different Omega and the guy asked if I wanted to try on a Moonwatch. t first I dismissed it. I already knew that I didn’t like it. But then I caved in. I’m back in love but I can’t decide which one. How could anyone make peace with this situation?
When a brand makes to many variants it become very confusing. One reason why I didn’t get one
Just get the original hard caseback. Paid 3k for mine and could fetch at least 4k for it now 👌
@@albundy3929 Thanks for the input. I’m leaning sapphire, but as I said, it’s hard to commit.
You have issues, kid.
Honestly I don’t think anyone can answer your question, only you can decide what you like and what makes you feel good. My advice is don’t rush, and continue to look around and go to an AD or boutique and try them on. If money is an issue, I would look at a mint condition discontinued version, like the 1861 or 1863. Those are a little cheaper than the new current models. You can also look at older models with an 861 movement too, it’s more vintage. If you like the new models of the 3861, then decide if you like the hesalite or Sapphire Sandwich. Good luck on your hunt! And hope you get your Speedy soon!!!
It's the 321 for me. Not just the movement. The build quality, the cermic, the size... unfortunately I like the "regular" (42mm) Moonwatch bracelet more.
321 is impossible to get tho.. three year wait list at the least
@@JakeLutka there are 3 new ones currently for sale in EU at less than 1000 euro over retail. I'd still wait. Just to say it's not impossible.
A silly question but I what about this "DON Bezel" mentioned on a Speedmaster?
According to Omega website, 50m is good for snorkeling. Modern Speedmaster has bad WR is a myth. Omega's 50m is so much more than 50m from other no name brands.
completely agree. I wish people would get over it. I've worn one pretty much every day for 30 years almost. I swim 3x a week, I've snorkel several times on holiday, water-ski, jet ski, washed the car and showered. Perfectly fine and never an issue. If you ned more than that the speedy isn't the way to go.
@@chrisnorthall8317BS
Great video 🤓
Brilliant video,i love my OMEGA, 👍🏴🇬🇧
I always look forward to Sundays now that Andrew has taken over from Adrian Barker as the weekend long form UA-cam creator of choice.
Almost brought a 30th anniversary speedy for 4k and wish I had
The new 321 Ed White has the Omega logo laser etched on the inside at the center of its sapphire crystal.
You made no mention of the 1861/63 movements?
☝🏼the Ed white 321 has the omega Symbol engraved in the crystal too …which also somehow gets rid of the milky ring on the normal crystal models…. Witchcraft !
You clearly did not read what omega means when they say 50m water resistance. They actually mean it, with vigorous motion at that depth. But i imagine that reading the official material is not as popular as making weird statements to move the masses.
I hate to be this guy but if it’s a Greek mythological creature it would be Poseidon’s chariot. I’m sorry, I wish I didn’t have to write this, it’s a sickness.
No it's not. You wanted to show everyone how "intelligent" you are supposed to be.
@@vvvhhhhhbb I feel very seen 😉
No, he’s right. Neptune would be Roman. The thing about Roman gods is that they’re more or less Greek gods with a different name and spray paint.
As a Greek, i salute you as Neptune and hippocampos would be like Nascar with WRC cars.
And in what city does the inspiration of Omega comes from for the logo ?
I can't unsee what's going on with that 12 O'clock marker now.
I have a real SUB but I also bought one of these replicas from MAMACOO for piece of mind if I go to another country or if I am doing activities that can damage the watch. I don't see anything wrong with that.
Easy! Hesalite for the better look from the front, and as upgrade an aftermarket sapphire caseback to see the awesome movement.
😱 The Omega International Police Force are en route to your location!
Agreed! I'd love to upgrade my hesalite with a sapphire caseback too. To the Omega Police force: see you in court!! 😎
Great video
One day! I will buy one!
Love mine and my son will inherit it
I'm one of the weirdos that often prefers solid case-backs. Hesalite for me.
This is the best watch ⌚️ to play Starfield ✨🪐🚀 with lol 🤓😎🤩
Yeah…The moon watch is the end game really. Doesn’t hurt It’s also a strap monster. Sapphire simply for the case back.
I’m patiently waiting for the day Andrew pull: the trigger on a 3861 / 321 Speedmaster Professional. Cmon, you know what it…
I've already had two Speedmasters so it's nice to try new stuff
The best is the Hesalite speedy and you purchase a high quality 3rd party sapphire exhibition caseback.
Although I had doubts about buying a replica watch, gussl dispelled my doubts. The watch has an authentic look and feel.
O ÚNICO ponto que me faz ter dúvida de comprar um Speedmaster Moonwatch é a estanqueidade inferior a 100m. Acho isso uma grande mancada da Omega.
Bobagem Rui. É o mais iconico dos relógios. Isso é um mero detalhe. Qualquer coleção que se preze, sem ele estará incompleta.
@@ivanmatos6124 De fato, é uma bobagem, pois, um Dress watch dificilmente tem uma capacidade superior à 30m e nem por isso a gente deixa de comprá-lo. Mas, como o speedmaster é, em tese, um relógio esportivo (racing), me incomoda bastante saber que eu não poderia entrar numa piscina com ele, por exemplo. Acho que a Omega poderia rever isto com muita facilidade (do mesmo jeito que disponibilizou vidro de safira, ao invés de ter apenas o de Heselite). Um relógio que me chama muita atenção neste sentido é o IWC Pilot Chronograph (mesmo sem ser da mesma categoria e não ser icônico).
@@ivanmatos6124 realmente, um entusiasta (que tenh condições kkkk) não pode deixar de ter um Submariner e um Moonwatch. Sendo bem sincero, estou começando a simpatizar também com o Cartier Santos.
I bought the leather speedmaster today - Rolex said 6-12 months wait times.. oh well
Hmm, some time ago I had 7 Speedmasters, today I only have 5. I miss the two I sold…
Here for the shaft and balls jokes
Aren’t we all? That and introductions to the First Sale Doctrine of intellectual property law, which is equally thrilling, enit?
Caliber 3861 is hackable. A first on the Moonwatch.
Also it’s now a Master Chronometer.
Previous generations 321, 861, 1861 had never been certified chronometers.
They do have a 321 chronometer now.
As far as I can tell from Omega’s website none of the 321 models is a chronometer.
Am I missing something here?
And??
Do people have a hard time in general locating the 12 o’clock marker?
Maybe I’m alone, here but I’ve never…….
Damn I don't think I can unsee the balls now. Fonts started to bother me as well.
Now I can’t unsee the Johnson at 12 o’clock 🤦🏻♂️
I am watching this before buying the Omega Speedmaster
like way way way waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before... at least like five thousand years before, if not more before
I'd love a hesalite Speedmaster, but why would anyone ever buy that watch with a closed caseback. Has to be the sapphire version then, I guess.
Haha, the speedy, the watch the failed on the moon - twice!! David Scott (Apollo 15 lunar EVA 2), Charlie Duke (Apollo 16 lunar EVA 3 ).
Saphire. Value for money watch.
Hesalite looks better, sapphire well it’s ok but hesalite is better unless it’s the only watch you got maybe. I have a sapphire one but rarely use it as the milky white edge on the crystal is actually a bit annoying. The hesalite just looks better.
I tried both. Was going to go for sapphire but preferred the hesalite plus the brushed bracelet.
All hail the broadarrow speedmaster.
never seen that face but the voice is very familiar :)
I bought this popular video watch from amzwatch , which was originally priced at a few thousand dollars, but now it's only $380! It's really suitable to pick up feces!
we put the dot over 90 in this house
Even the mighty omega should know better than to tangle with costco lol
I think and believe the best speed master is the one you own
I’m still none the wiser. Everything tells me to buy the original but would love to be able to glance at that movement and would rather not be polishing my hesalite daily
I've had one best part of 30 years, let me tell you, you wont be polishing daily. one a year if that. I wear mine every day.
@kelvynbettridge the 3861 movement is beautiful to look at. Living in a silicon era, when things get too hectic, it is good to take time out by popping the watch off and watching it work.
Get the Sapphire. The 3861 was never flight qualified by NASA anyway, if you're a purist you should get one with the 321, 861 or 1861 movement.
Wait. All this time I couldn’t orient the 12 o’clock position because it kept changing on my wrist. Now I can identify 🍒 and 🍆 as 12 o’clock. Gracias good sir.
Did you say that thing about shoes in bed just to see whether people watched all the way to the end?