What if every member of Megadeth were eventually replaced with every member of Metallica and they just became Metallica again but played Megadeth songs?
The whole "Strained Relationship" part kills me. Unless something has been going on behind the scenes we don't know about, it sounds as i Mustaine is just bringing up the crap from the past like he usually does.
Even after the girl came forward saying she was a consenting adult you still fire him? Not to mention all the stuff David watched Dave go through over the years. Such bs.
its all unfair for david, but we cant blame megadeth for trying to keep their reputation, plus, dave is really close to david and his family, there's no way to keep working with him after their relationship being stained like this
@@gabrielbarblay8120 i honestly think that the band talked and even Ellefson agreed to be out of the band behind the scenes cuz it would be really awkward for him to be on stage and will probably get booed, i mean the guy is old and rich so he has nothing to lose even if he leaves the band. No doubt that they are still friends outside the bussiness.
Pretty sure there's something more to this story. THAT girl has said she was consenting and an adult but there may be others. They just recorded and are looking forward to a Tour. Like they said, you "don't come to this decision lightly..." Doubt we know everything. Mustaine has more reason NOT to fire him that to fire him if it was just his personal opinion of Ellefson.
@@seanentrikin9263 Yeah there's stuff on instagram of underage girls posting screenshots of creepy messages Ellefson sent them. How true they are is open to discussion, but I get the feeling Mustaine knows more than he's saying
I love the fact their main replacement that Dave was looking for was Jason Newsted to be their bassist. The problem is if Jason recently said he doesn't have the physicality to play Metallica's music alone... what's the chance he would have the physicality to play Megadeth's music? Thats what I want to know.
I don't think Dave was looking for Jason but he would totally be a nice replacement after this sad event It would make Megadeth a lot more valuable and their shows would sell out if they had Newsted in the band But it seems very unlikely Buutt we saw Axl Rose join AC DC once so who knows!?
If Newstead doesn’t have the physicality to play Metallica every night there’s no way he could hold down the spot in Megadeth . I know that Jason is capable of playing beyond what he did with Metallica , but I don’t think people actually understand just how much of a beastly bassist Junior is . He also shares songwriting credits on a couple of their best albums . It’s Mustaine’s band and he made the call and I couldn’t imagine it was easy for him . I prefer my Megadeth with two Dave’s . They finally got a drummer and guitarist who could maybe rival Friedman and Mensa . Now Junior is out . I would be shocked if Newstead was the guy. I could definitely see him maybe filling in until a permanent replacement is sorted.
@@skylacken no Dave and Dave were half and half. The other two members could always fuck themself (except for Menza and Friedman) but Megadeth was always Ellefson and Mustaine. Their 2002-2009 period was terrible and i sure wonder why!
"what, no warning? No second chance" hehe, indeed! :p although Mustaine did also sing "FIRST MISTAKE, LAST MISTAKE!"... so be warned if anger grips him it may be difficult to reason with him and calm him down! :p and in the video Sweating Bullets, Mustaine can be seen delivering white belt karate leg kicks to a figure in the corner around one minute twenty seconds into the video! lol anyway, just trying to spread a little weird and silly humour and observations :) and funny memories of Stryper from the 1980s dressed in bee/wasp costumes! lol xd
@@lotsapasta0858 Fuck cancel culture. And fuck political correctness too. This is honestly just completely ridiculous now even by human standards I would like to imagine.
@@lotsapasta0858 Yeah, it's like I said in another comment on this vid here somewhere; Situations like these don't blow over well for anyone really but... what can we really do but just speculate, right? Also I agree. People like that DEFINITELY need therapy at least. David at this point could probably fair with some, and extra help on top of that because he's gonna need it by the time this whole deal's said and done in the media.
Poor Dave Ellefson, I can’t Imagine the feeling of a person you played with for the past 38 years tell you that your out of the band that you co-founded
Although I appreciate David Ellefson's playing I would have to say James LoMenzo is the better "Bass Player"! That said you could easily argue that Ellefson's style fit Megadeth better - I personally prefer LoMenzo!
Dummy he was talking to her since she was 17, grooming her, and then started joff to her once she hit 18, what if that’s your daughter you clown being groomed by 56 year old 🤦♂️. Imagine defending the clown that cheated on his wife with a minor. And he also has other allegations against him. Who’s the drama queen now 🤦♂️.
@@Qthetar Situations like these aren't good for anyone. Regardless of how they start I don't see how anyone, of ANY age bracket could see how going after someone they know could get their ass in a legal bind, could be a sweet payoff in any aspect of life. But what do I know?🤷🏾♂️ I'm mainly just ranting 😂.
@@magicwin6647 I'm sure Mustaine put up with it because he wanted to give him the chance he didn't get with Metallica. Then Ellefson had to go and screw up again. I don't like him (Ellefson) anyway.
Headline: Rockstar has consensual adult relationship with grown woman!! Mustain, didn't you used to try and "curse" and "hex" women into sleeping with you?
So he got fire just because of two adults having fun times and a person had posted videos of them? And he got fire for that? Is that where I am hearing... wow... could be something else but dang.
@@lotsapasta0858 ohhh I see now. I was very confuse on what really went down due to the story was kinda mix. I just thought that whoever he was with that night with other person was a adult age mostly. Yes I admit at 18 your not really mature enough til your at least 20 due to having immature mindset .
@@TheCyberMantis true I’m one of em In the 20s who’s still a bit immature.. even 30s are the same but I guess it’s definitely depends who your talking too lol.
@@lotsapasta0858 should we raise the age of consent to 25 then? Should we ban 18 year olds from making onlyfans accounts? You're either old enough for sex or you're not, only morons believe in double standards
He should cut David some slack. I know that Dave is a Christian now and that he is much more "pure" than he was a before. But Dave has make plenty of mistakes that he would have been fired for if he wasn't the frontman. That is exactly what happened to him with Metallica. I think it is harsh to fire David because along with Mustaine, David IS MEGADETH!
Well, David is also a pastor as much as I know and cheated on his wife. And there are apparently other girls that he had contact with...we probably don't know everything atm.
It's not even like Mustaine is some paragon of virtue either - cussing like a sailor every 10 seconds and being harsh with those who tick him off is not at all following what Jesus and the Apostles taught about self discipline. So how is he going to cut himself all that slack but then when Jr messes up its all over for him? Pretty sure firing Ellefson is not what Jesus would do in this situation - he hung out with sinners all the time trying to help them turn their lives around...
I’m just gonna pretend their albums stopped at cryptic writings & that the whole rust in peace lineup rode off into the sunset with Lemmy Bon Scott & Randy Rhoads
I just think about all the different things rock stars have done over the years, and DE gets fired for this? What are we missing? There is something we don't know...
Did you not hear Dave's statement? Their relationship was already strained and this was basically the tipping point. We will probably never know the full story unless sadly
@@simonextra9689 agreed - previous mentions of a legal dispute between the two in 2000, DE's side projects that probably interfered with Megadeth's schedule, artistic difference when creating the new album, drifting apart., etc. Also, I seriously doubt this is the first risque encounter DE has involved himself in. Remembering that he has a family, who Dave probably knows quite well. Very difficult position to be in. There absolutely is more to the story, and that this current issue is simply the straw that broke the camel's back.
Jason Newsted said he is not able anymore to play the Metallica Stuff live, because he is getting old. So he couldnt play Megadeth because they Are much more technical than Metallica
Not because of "getting old," it's because of the damage to his body & surgeries. Remember years ago when Mustaine had his severe injury and couldn't play for something like 2 years. Brutal.
There’s no “we” in Megadeth. Dave has been unable to maintain a consistent line up because he doesn’t work well with others. Apparent as far back as Metallica...
Ellefson was the only thing keeping Megadeth from becoming "Mustaine and Friends" kinda like happened with GnR in the 2000s. After Marty and then subsequently Nick left, it was never the same. Ellefson was the last thing keeping Megadeth alive at least in my mind.
@@derekrequiem4359 The difference is AC/DC has made excellent music with both singers. Conversely, Megadeth was only making good music during a small time frame of their career.
@@NAlvazaz That's great if the music is still good, the point I'm making is that it's not Megadeth anymore. Not to me at least. Only 1 remaining Original member for any band especially a metal band. I'm not interested. Again that's fine if people like them, but to ME (as I said in the inital comment) it's no longer Megadeth in MY mind.
@@superbird9095 Yeah that was like 30 years ago before he was born again, also I think cheating on your wife with a woman the same age as your daughter is a bit worse than performing witchcraft in your twenties.
Mustaine being Christian probably didn't factor in this decision at all. you don't think it's creepy for 56 year old man to be having communications with an underage girl and then taking it to the next level when she turns 18, Really dude, You don't see a problem with that?? . I read the young ladies statement she clearly states that the communication between her and Dave had been ongoing but nothing inappropriate happened while she was a minor. This whole thing might not be illegal but it is creepy.
Tf? Dave jr already got a second chance, but they let him back in. I think its totally fair that he was fired I wouldnt give him a third chance if I were Mustaine. (To put it short, you need to get your facts straight people.)
@@tylerthomas1864I guess these words are pretty meaningless now... 'I wanna tell you, it was the stupidest thing I ever did suing you, and I wanna apologize.' And I looked at him and I waited a beat, and I said, 'Dave, I forgive you. I completely forgive you. I love you.' And it was over like that. And I think that that's really something great that people should take with them today, anybody listening to this. There may be somebody you need to forgive or somebody you need to apologize to, but I'll tell you what - it makes [you feel] a lot better at the end of the day."
“.....with an already strained relationship.....” I wonder what that’s all about? Is there some other disputing that we don’t know about between Mustaine and Ellefson before this recent stuff surfaced?
im gonna guess this is from when mustaine sued ellefson for using megadeths name in some promo vids when he wasnt in the band. mustaine has been a jerk for many many years
@@nate-ds9tg The man engaged in sexual activity with a consenting adult in private. The woman (without his consent) shared their PRIVATE intimate sessions with a friend, who in turn shared it with the Internet. David did not break any laws, David did not force anything, David did nothing wrong. Morally? Sure. But the dude is a R O C K S T A R. Name ONE that hasn't done anything morally questionable. Or perhaps we should take a look at Dave's track record, and examine all the garbage he's dragged that band through, INCLUDING David? How would you feel if your sexual life was publicly put on blast? (Assuming you have one) If you and your partner took part in private affairs, only for her to share with a friend and in turn have that friend post it on the Internet? Especially when you legally did nothing wrong. He's not a creep for doing what he did. A cheater, sure, but he doesn't deserve to be kicked out of a band he's put decades of his life into. The entire band should be kicked out in that case.
The person who ellefson should answer to, is his wife. He's a musician in a metal band, The two Dave's are no saints. He got caught with someone, who wasn't his wife. Hats off to the woman who come forward to clarify the situation.
Kinda feel like Megadeth should retire after this album anyway. Without Ellefson it's just Mustaine project and he's getting a bit too old, should spend this part of his life with his family really.
@@thegodofsoapkekcario1970 oh, how I've been wishing for that. But still, some Metallica fans are going to say "haha Metallica lasted longer than Megadeth lol" and it hurts
Just wanna point out jason has come out about not being able to tour anymore due to shoulder damage from aging so he definitely won't be the replacement bassist sorry y'all I'd love to see that myself but we are all more likely to hit the Lotto
Facts. I've seen plenty of these videos too, and the words are coming straight out of Jason's mouth. He said he can't play Metallica anymore at 100%, so there's no way he's doing stuff at Megadeth's speed. That would be awesome to see him back though.
Damn 😳 this is crazy. I honestly don’t know if Jason can keep up with them since he made it clear that he can’t do any thrash metal anymore but if he somehow does then I’ll be surprised
Too much drama there, i don't see it happening for that reason alone. But yeah, Jason can get a song or two out. But an entire 2 hour performance is a whole different story.
@@mrex3553 No argument here. Porn is voyeurism, plain and simple. It kills the libido and often times makes it difficult to maintain romantic relationships. It's habit forming and addictive as well. Other than that, it's great lol.
Damn the scene is becoming soft. Bunch of hypocrites honestly. As if everyone in that band hasn't sent some sort of "adult" pic to someone. Here's the thing, everyone on earth has dirt that could be dug up. Especially in the music industry.... Honestly IMO it makes Megadeth look really bad for firing him. A founding member too. Way to have some backbone and stick up for you team Megadeth. Way to fall in line to todays BS politics and cancel culture.
@@ev25zv he's not a teacher at a highschool. This was a woman of legal age. She was consenting. She video taped his FaceTime calls, without his permission and shared them. Apples to hand grenades. It's it cringe worthy? Yes. It's it morally weak? Yes. Should he be working this betrayal out with his wife and within his faith? YES. But he's not a teacher and the woman was a consenting adult who betrayed HIM.
@@staceykelly4211 Just telling you how business in general works. Jeffery Toobin got fired from all his consulting jobs for the same thing, and he was just multi-tasking and had a camera mishap. Same thing would happen if he worked at Intel. If he were in my band, I'd fire him just for being an idiot because I don't like to work with idiots because they make poor choices. Anywhoo, the jury is still out on whether she was a minor or not, so we'll wait and see. Also, you can't record video on FaceTime, and on Zoom if you hit record it tells the other party that it's being recorded. Lol @ she betrayed "HIM" as if he's the victim here. He was being an idiot and "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" was in full effect. Now he's lost his job, will probably lose his marriage, and lose his status in the church (unless he ups his donations, then they'll forgive him). I feel bad for him, but this is all his doing - stop trying to deflect that fact.
So he spanked it online with another consenting adult? Big freaking deal. We've all done that lol. Well I'm sure a lot of us have. Dave seems like such a good, down to earth guy imo. Getting kicked out of the band you've been playing for for decades is BS
@@kimonmatara6903 who cares! He is rockstar first and foremost. If he wants to preach on the side thats fine too. But he gets to live the rockstar life cuz thats what he is! That means bangin chicks all kinds. So he rubbed one out on cam with another adult woman. Big fn deal.
@@pizzaprince Sure, he is a rockstar.... a rockstar who is MARRIED and HAS KIDS! Being a rockstar doesn't mean he has a free pass to be an @$$hole with no morals and decency. The pain he caused is family and everyone around him is just wrong. What he did was just irresponsible on his part. I bet if a man who isn't famous did the same thing, no one would be defending him...
I do agree that, if what said about the girl being an adult is true, that it's not really that big of a deal. BUT, on the business side of things, I think letting him go was probably the best thing that they could have done. Even if it wasn't actually grooming, the fact that the controversy happened to begin with is enough to stain the reputation of the band, and would probably be made worse if David wasn't let go, and that would be really bad for the rest of them. I dunno, just my two cents on the matter.
I'm sure Mustaine spanked his meat to his groupies online also. The key phrase that was said was "an already strained relationship". There was stuff going on behind the scene. Mustaine and Ellefson weren't on good terms. This was a reason to get rid of him
If you even paid the slightes attention to Newsteds past interviews you'll know he wont join the band. His shoulder is messed up good after all the years on the road. And are not able to go back there even if he wants to. Lately Jason has played guitar in a small band and singing, you guys should check out his UA-cam channel! He posts alot there
Jason Newsted said that after the surgery he had back in the early 2000s, he no longer can keep up with playing live shows as much as he did with Metallica. So I'm pretty sure he won't be joining Megadeth after all that said.
What! Over the BS the other day? 😳 Crazy...update: yep! Absurd! It's crazy, wtf it's not like it was rape! It was two adults! It's not like Megadeth is a bunch of Nuns! 😂
@ Megadeth is the one's who have separated themselves from their bassist. In America they say Innocent until proven Guilty but we know that's a bunch of BS!
Losing his gig in Megadeth is the least of his worries now (potentially his marriage, home, net worth) Depending on how deep the rabbit hole goes, he’s going to be fighting for his freedom in the coming months/year. It would seem to follow logic that Mustaine was probably keeping up on the details of what happened and to separate him from his job in Megadeth, the reality is probably not good!
Wdym potentially. They will absolutely get a divorce I guarantee it. And honestly in this case, I don't see any other way. I don't know his wife at all but assuming she never cheated she has every right to cut ties and get part of his money. Man, to see a man such as David fall this low. I never would've imagined it
@@Walamonga1313 No one knows what kind of support system he has or the exact circumstances beyond what we are privy to via social media but when this kind of thing happens, especially if there is a possibility of someone not being legal age?? Law enforcement is all over it! I’m sure the rabbit hole is being gone down and investigated.
I have no sympathy for him. You don’t get to quite literally preach morality to people as a “Lutheran pastor” and then not expect to be judged by your own standards.
Jr. is a Lutheran minister . He’s very open that becoming a Christian was key to his recovery from addiction . He made a big mistake morally . I hate it for his family . He being a celebrity everything he does is going to be scrutinized . He being open about his faith is going to put him in the media’s crosshairs . He is in a leadership position in his church and the metal community. Being a Christian don’t mean that you live a perfect life and not struggle . No doubt that it doesn’t look good but if he were of any other faith it would be a video leaked of
I’ve never heard him wagging his finger at anyone nor judging anyone. He simply states that his relationship with Christ was key to his recovery from substance addiction . I know that there’s judgmental Christians out there . If he were of any other faith no one would say anything about judging him by his own standards . Saying you don’t agree with his actions from a personal moral standpoint is fine .
Didn’t the girl on tape say it wasn’t what it seemed? Why don’t people wait and see what happens. And see if he did anything wrong instead of just firing people immediately.
Well, he DIDN'T record them and send them. SHE recorded video calls without his knowledge, is what SHE said. Then she said she gave them to someone else. She was of age, agree what says. So...
That's what I read as well. If they really fired him because someone else recorded him without permission AND shared it without permission...well that just stinks!
Easy to judge Dave Mustaine. However, I did notice even as just a fan from afar there was something slightly off between Ellefson and Mustaine relationship before these recent events took place. In any case, perhaps David Ellefson needs time to himself and so had to go. Dave Mustaine is looking older by the day, they don't have much time to waste and so they have to crack on. The Megadeth story just seems so sad, I hope they achieve what they want when they finally call it a day.
Just shows how corporate these big metal bands are. Like an actor getting dropped from all their advertisers that don't want the bad PR but they also don't mind partaking in cheap labor and horrible working conditions. No loyalty.
It is the 21st century now, these old bands are now big corporations economically supporting many families The real part about it, it has been dead for a long time And I mean no disrespect for what they have done, it is amazing and they can still put on great shows and all But I think we should encourage new bands that actually have that raw emotion to them and open up the space for a new scene... Once Covid is over I am sure this will happen
It's a video of Ellefson Jackson's. I mean...who the hel would want to see that? And if it was a female bandmember whose video leaked, the press and her band would be defending her, and helping dry a fountain of tears. This isn't reasonable at all. I'm positive that Mustaine has done far worse things.
@@Stuntmanforlyf Why, how bad is it? I heard he is just spanking the monkey in the video and it’s not even that clear that it’s David in the vid. (Unless there is more I’ve yet to hear about) I don’t wanna see it unless I feel more compelled to understand how bad it is.
I've been a Megadeth fan for many years and always wanted to see them live, but I refuse to go to any of there shows if David isn't let back in the band.
I forgive you Dave. And I think dave mustaine does too . It’s nothing personal just business, I think. It’s hard for a Christian, people always using that against you. I’m a sinner
Dave mustaine calls himself a born again christian and still turns his back on his friend for 40 years, when in need... hahaha what a "born again Christian" 👏👏👏👏
Mustaine is not a reliable friend, he saw after all Ellefson just as another employee of his company that he still regret is not as big as the 'tallica company. To think he joked about Lars being hypocritical and treacherous.
We gotta also remember that this is the second time Ellefson wasn't in Megadeth, he wasn't there from The World Needs A Hero until Th1rt3en and then Mustaine brought him back. He will be back eventually.
Well david tried to word himself into that but you cant, he cheated on his wife with a girl that was like 18?19? Plus adultery is a sin in christianity so he is not gonna get by without some scrutiny.
@@thanatos425 There are black sheep everywhere but it's also really disappointing coming from him, probably because I'm Christian as well. It's still saddening that he's not part of Megadeth anymore.
@@waldi7080 Well I am a christian to but id say im a man with faults. Im not going to judge him for what most people in the world do but hes just in a tough spot and probably will not mend. I think when Mustaine fired him he was thinking about his own daughter and just doesnt want him around. Who knows
We can’t just accuse one party or the other for being a jerk, none of us know the full story. There’s probably tons more personal stuff behind the scenes. Calm down, comment section
I don't know too much about this whole situation, but I'm just wondering, since no one else seems to bring this up... What would the public reaction be if that happened to a female?
I know what David elifsen did was wrong but Dave mustaine was being hypocritical as he wanted a second chance from Metallica and he didn’t even give David elifsen a second chance
Unless Ellefson online-partner was Mustaine's daugther, I really don't understand why he was fired cos of this. I mean, if this is the most dirt Mustaine could find for him to get fired, then they should have just said "we can't stand each other so we are breaking up" and that's it...........this was a very political move by Mustaine.......writing all those lyrics over the years teached him well.
From what I see, he is just trying to protect his bands image from this scandal. He obviously doesn't want to be associated with that. I don't think this has anything to do with him suddenly being "woke".
@@camilacastro2773 I was gonna say, this isn't an example of someone being "woke", it's of someone distancing themselves from Ellefson's personal drama.
I mean, he did get a band kicked off a show because he said they were satanic. And that was WAAAY back in 2005. Whether you agree with him or not, that's the definition of woke.
What if every member of Megadeth were eventually replaced with every member of Metallica and they just became Metallica again but played Megadeth songs?
Hilarious!🤣🤘🏻
The ship of Theseus: The Band
Megadeth music doesn’t sound appropriate with a trash can can lid being used in place of actual snare
@@HerrGanchev You were living in amazon jungle right? Poor guy. Trying to be funny 😂
Megallica
He doesn't even know all the facts yet but after all Ellefson did for Mustaine over the years... "What no second chance?" We've come full circle
Full circle indeed. This is what Cumstain craved for all the time.
The whole "Strained Relationship" part kills me. Unless something has been going on behind the scenes we don't know about, it sounds as i Mustaine is just bringing up the crap from the past like he usually does.
Uh ellefson sued mustaine in the early 2000s and mustaine still let him come back into the band, there was certainly more than a second chance LMAO
He knows more than anyone else not named Ellefson. More to the story than the public knows.
It's a funny joke but that was Davids second chance in the band..
Even after the girl came forward saying she was a consenting adult you still fire him? Not to mention all the stuff David watched Dave go through over the years. Such bs.
its all unfair for david, but we cant blame megadeth for trying to keep their reputation, plus, dave is really close to david and his family, there's no way to keep working with him after their relationship being stained like this
@@gabrielbarblay8120 i honestly think that the band talked and even Ellefson agreed to be out of the band behind the scenes cuz it would be really awkward for him to be on stage and will probably get booed, i mean the guy is old and rich so he has nothing to lose even if he leaves the band.
No doubt that they are still friends outside the bussiness.
Pretty sure there's something more to this story. THAT girl has said she was consenting and an adult but there may be others. They just recorded and are looking forward to a Tour. Like they said, you "don't come to this decision lightly..." Doubt we know everything. Mustaine has more reason NOT to fire him that to fire him if it was just his personal opinion of Ellefson.
You don’t know what is going on behind the scenes. What the police know. What Dave knows. None of us do.
@@seanentrikin9263 Yeah there's stuff on instagram of underage girls posting screenshots of creepy messages Ellefson sent them. How true they are is open to discussion, but I get the feeling Mustaine knows more than he's saying
When that embarrassing information came out I bet he was sweating bullets
And you were firing them
How he’s in his darkest hour
Hello teen
Hey! This was his life!
I guess they’ve finally sell the peace
In Dave Ellefson's darkest hour Dave Mustaine was not there. And though Dave Ellefson reached out to him Dave Mustaine wouldn't lend a hand.
Nailed it
Best comment ever.
Nick Menza too. Dave doesn't care about anyone but Dave.
He was almost honest
They were out of hand sanitizer !!! 👏
I love the fact their main replacement that Dave was looking for was Jason Newsted to be their bassist. The problem is if Jason recently said he doesn't have the physicality to play Metallica's music alone... what's the chance he would have the physicality to play Megadeth's music? Thats what I want to know.
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I don't think Dave was looking for Jason but he would totally be a nice replacement after this sad event
It would make Megadeth a lot more valuable and their shows would sell out if they had Newsted in the band
But it seems very unlikely
Buutt we saw Axl Rose join AC DC once so who knows!?
@@shadowpeople89 Best comment lol
that would be amazing
If Newstead doesn’t have the physicality to play Metallica every night there’s no way he could hold down the spot in Megadeth . I know that Jason is capable of playing beyond what he did with Metallica , but I don’t think people actually understand just how much of a beastly bassist Junior is . He also shares songwriting credits on a couple of their best albums . It’s Mustaine’s band and he made the call and I couldn’t imagine it was easy for him . I prefer my Megadeth with two Dave’s . They finally got a drummer and guitarist who could maybe rival Friedman and Mensa . Now Junior is out .
I would be shocked if Newstead was the guy. I could definitely see him maybe filling in until a permanent replacement is sorted.
So sad, I remember how happy I was, when Dave rejoin the band in 2010. Now that’s all over, now once again, only one original member remains.
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Mustaine basically IS Megadeth
@@skylacken no Dave and Dave were half and half. The other two members could always fuck themself (except for Menza and Friedman) but Megadeth was always Ellefson and Mustaine. Their 2002-2009 period was terrible and i sure wonder why!
@@boarman55 terrible my ass, system has failed, United abomination and endgame were killer albums.
@@Qthetar he’s one of those Peace sells and Rust in peace fanboy.
Then Ellefson goes on and create another band like Mustaine did after getting kicked out of Metallica.
I hope he does... I'll be buying their records, before I ever by another record from Dave "cancel culture" Mustaine.
He should. That would be cool. Will he?
He already has ELLEFSON
Megatallica 🤫
Actually he already has a solo band but I doubt its gonna go as well as Megadeth did
It's hilariously ironic that Dave whined for years about being kicked out of Metallica and yet he can't keep a consistent lineup in his own band.
Bullied children grow up to be bullies, and Abused children grow up to be abusive parents, so it shouldn't come as a surprise.
@@djjazzyjeff1232 Dave was the one doing the 'bullying" back then, man.
@@Omar_E11 He got kicked out of Metallica. So he kicks everyone out of Megadeth.
Y'all spitting straight facts
Makes you wonder who the problem in megadeth is....?(?)
"with an already strained relationship" AKA "Quick! let's use this as an excuse to get rid of him."
"What no warning? No second chance?!"
🤣🤣🤣
@@shyankhan_ I expose the Illuminati (our evil totalitarian government) I have 2,000,000 overall channel views🥣💓
Maybe he'll get a bus ticket home
That’s brutal
Yeah, what a hipocrite worm!
Poor guy. He was just tryna catch that nut and it all fell apart :(
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Bust in Peace 😔
And he was married. I don’t feel any sympathy.
@@H.E.M. Nut in peace
@@wisconsinmetalhead684 sympathy for any man who is stuck in a marriage!
None the less..we are with u David..huge honor and pleasure to have meet u in person and chat..best of luck
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@@michaeljackson8390 k
@@michaeljackson8390 ah ok
@@michaeljackson8390 ok
Nah, fuck cheaters and creeps who think dating someone YEARS younger than them is ok
Ellefson: "what, no warning? No second chance"
Mustaine: Nice try Junior, that line doesn't work on me
Mustaine: "I tried that line 38 years ago. Believe me, doesn't work".
"what, no warning? No second chance"
hehe, indeed! :p
although Mustaine did also sing "FIRST MISTAKE, LAST MISTAKE!"... so be warned if anger grips him it may be difficult to reason with him and calm him down! :p
and in the video Sweating Bullets, Mustaine can be seen delivering white belt karate leg kicks to a figure in the corner around one minute twenty seconds into the video! lol
anyway, just trying to spread a little weird and silly humour and observations :)
and funny memories of Stryper from the 1980s dressed in bee/wasp costumes! lol xd
Mustaine: How dare you use my own spell against me Potter?
no warning? no second chance?
lol
'Already strained relationship'... so this just gave Dave the excuse he needed to get rid of Junior and be undisputed leader in again.
Your so right. Total bs
I have lost ALL respect for Mustaine for this.
POS
@@lotsapasta0858 Fuck cancel culture. And fuck political correctness too. This is honestly just completely ridiculous now even by human standards I would like to imagine.
@@lotsapasta0858 Yeah, it's like I said in another comment on this vid here somewhere; Situations like these don't blow over well for anyone really but... what can we really do but just speculate, right?
Also I agree. People like that DEFINITELY need therapy at least. David at this point could probably fair with some, and extra help on top of that because he's gonna need it by the time this whole deal's said and done in the media.
Lol as though Mustaine wasn't already sole leader anyway.
umm after all dave sat through for dave over the years. man probably owes him his life
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I agree man, I can't believe this...ok, he screwed up but come on!
@@ceebee491 “screwing up” deserves consequences, BUT we don’t know if Ellefson did anything wrong yet.
@@yeetfeet1878 it is wrong yes it is but it's his personal matter, shame on mustang
Jr. sued Dave and Dave forgave him you got it twisted brah..
In the 80s, megadeth: sex drugs and rock n roll
Megadeth in 2021, david sent a video in dms, we must kick him out
I think they didn't have children back then and now they do.
and back in 80s if you have sex, the only thing you should worry about is not wearing condoms.
This is the best comment here, 100% agree. Even Dave himself in one interview was clear that he started the band for sex, drug, money.
@@gothic0love I think you confused him with rappers.
/s that mindset is dangerous never have it
Poor Dave Ellefson, I can’t
Imagine the feeling of a person you played with for the past 38 years tell you that your out of the band that you co-founded
This is the second time he's been booted. Ellefson is a big boy, I'm sure he'll be fine.
He should just make another one
He shouldn't have been sexting a teenager
@@paulphoenix1669 better review your porn history before you start passing judgement
Not the same. Plus I'm actually trying my best to stop watching porn anyways, hard at times but overall something that has improved my life
Dave is slowly turning into the hysteric lady from the high school cafeteria
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Lol
Dave The Lunch Lady!
I mean he's a religious nut these days
dave's only friend is the Lunch lady
I cant belive they fired him... Best bassist for megadeth ever
Do you even know what he did?
And you think that justifies his actions??
Give Ron McGovney a chance !!!!!
Although I appreciate David Ellefson's playing I would have to say James LoMenzo is the better "Bass Player"! That said you could easily argue that Ellefson's style fit Megadeth better - I personally prefer LoMenzo!
it's more like he made himself quit the band
Not like Mustaine has never cheated on his wife at least Ellefson was just videos of him rubbing one out
Yeah way before he became Christian, also he didn’t cheat with a minor 😂
@@Qthetar Ellefson didnt cheat with a minor. She's an adult
@@Qthetar Drama queen.
Dummy he was talking to her since she was 17, grooming her, and then started joff to her once she hit 18, what if that’s your daughter you clown being groomed by 56 year old 🤦♂️.
Imagine defending the clown that cheated on his wife with a minor. And he also has other allegations against him. Who’s the drama queen now 🤦♂️.
@@Qthetar Situations like these aren't good for anyone. Regardless of how they start I don't see how anyone, of ANY age bracket could see how going after someone they know could get their ass in a legal bind, could be a sweet payoff in any aspect of life. But what do I know?🤷🏾♂️ I'm mainly just ranting 😂.
He was looking for a reason to fire Dave Ellefson and he gave him one.
Lol. He could have fired him for whatever reason he wanted and whenever he wanted to.
Agreed..."already tense relationship " got my attention
maybe that had something to do with that time when ellefson sued mustaine in 2000s
@@magicwin6647 I'm sure Mustaine put up with it because he wanted to give him the chance he didn't get with Metallica. Then Ellefson had to go and screw up again. I don't like him (Ellefson) anyway.
Headline: Rockstar has consensual adult relationship with grown woman!!
Mustain, didn't you used to try and "curse" and "hex" women into sleeping with you?
Way to back your friend up there Dave.
Well considering David tried to sue him before, I wouldn't call them friends
Not even a business partner. He fired Ellefson just because he cheated on his wife with a consenting adult.
@@wenxingwang7867 a consenting adult young enough to be his granddaughter
@@AniW2x4 Still a consenting adult
She was a consenting 19 yr old and he was 56 yr. Back of the net!
So he got fire just because of two adults having fun times and a person had posted videos of them? And he got fire for that? Is that where I am hearing... wow... could be something else but dang.
@@lotsapasta0858 ohhh I see now. I was very confuse on what really went down due to the story was kinda mix. I just thought that whoever he was with that night with other person was a adult age mostly. Yes I admit at 18 your not really mature enough til your at least 20 due to having immature mindset .
@@burgerbob7324 I agree... I am just so confuse on this hold issue :/ idk if it’s a big deal if he hooking up with someone who’s at age I just.. eh.
@@ghostcat8244 I would say at least 30. Plenty of immature 20 year olds out there.
@@TheCyberMantis true I’m one of em
In the 20s who’s still a bit immature.. even 30s are the same but I guess it’s definitely depends who your talking too lol.
@@lotsapasta0858 should we raise the age of consent to 25 then? Should we ban 18 year olds from making onlyfans accounts? You're either old enough for sex or you're not, only morons believe in double standards
He should cut David some slack. I know that Dave is a Christian now and that he is much more "pure" than he was a before. But Dave has make plenty of mistakes that he would have been fired for if he wasn't the frontman. That is exactly what happened to him with Metallica. I think it is harsh to fire David because along with Mustaine, David IS MEGADETH!
Totally agree with you
the only pure thing in mustaine life is his heroine stash
Well, David is also a pastor as much as I know and cheated on his wife. And there are apparently other girls that he had contact with...we probably don't know everything atm.
It's not even like Mustaine is some paragon of virtue either - cussing like a sailor every 10 seconds and being harsh with those who tick him off is not at all following what Jesus and the Apostles taught about self discipline. So how is he going to cut himself all that slack but then when Jr messes up its all over for him? Pretty sure firing Ellefson is not what Jesus would do in this situation - he hung out with sinners all the time trying to help them turn their lives around...
Can you imagine a bigger asshole than a born again dave mustaine??? Those have to be some loooong, unbearable, one sided conversations.
David formed Megadeth with Dave. Their friendship was 40 years old. That's shocking and sad
Hey. He had sex and someone revenge porned him. Makes sense to Mustaine.
@@waltergoring8428 Yup. That's the ONLY reason...*eyeroll
@@waltergoring8428 he technically cheated on his wife there so fuck him lmao
@@waltergoring8428 it’s still a shit thing to do to cheat on your wife regardless if they get annoyed or not. Ellefson isn’t innocent.
@First Name I fully support Mustaine on this one.
I’m just gonna pretend their albums stopped at cryptic writings & that the whole rust in peace lineup rode off into the sunset with Lemmy Bon Scott & Randy Rhoads
I just think about all the different things rock stars have done over the years, and DE gets fired for this? What are we missing? There is something we don't know...
I'm assuming there MUST be something we don't know....cuz if not Dave is being a complete garbage human being by doing this....
Did you not hear Dave's statement? Their relationship was already strained and this was basically the tipping point. We will probably never know the full story unless sadly
@@simonextra9689 agreed - previous mentions of a legal dispute between the two in 2000, DE's side projects that probably interfered with Megadeth's schedule, artistic difference when creating the new album, drifting apart., etc. Also, I seriously doubt this is the first risque encounter DE has involved himself in. Remembering that he has a family, who Dave probably knows quite well. Very difficult position to be in. There absolutely is more to the story, and that this current issue is simply the straw that broke the camel's back.
Yea it's a disease known as Wokeness.
Jason Newsted said he is not able anymore to play the Metallica Stuff live, because he is getting old. So he couldnt play Megadeth because they Are much more technical than Metallica
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Don't think it's the technical side he couldnt cope with, its more the speed , Metallica have alot more faster stuff compared to Megadeth
@@michaeljackson8390 no one cares ..off topic. Go know it all elsewhere
Well, if he let his hair long, maybe
Not because of "getting old," it's because of the damage to his body & surgeries. Remember years ago when Mustaine had his severe injury and couldn't play for something like 2 years. Brutal.
There’s no “we” in Megadeth. Dave has been unable to maintain a consistent line up because he doesn’t work well with others. Apparent as far back as Metallica...
True. Megadeth is not MacDonalds..have it your way. It's Dave's way, or hit the highway. Hopefully, not the highway to hell..
Eh. It’s not like it’s that easy. He wanted Marty to come back but he wanted an absolutely insane amount of money.
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I think it's unfair to suggest every Megadeth departure is Dave's fault. Some left on their own accord and others deserved to go.
Ellefson was the only thing keeping Megadeth from becoming "Mustaine and Friends" kinda like happened with GnR in the 2000s. After Marty and then subsequently Nick left, it was never the same. Ellefson was the last thing keeping Megadeth alive at least in my mind.
Or how AC/DC was "Angus and Friends" in 2017
@@derekrequiem4359 The difference is AC/DC has made excellent music with both singers. Conversely, Megadeth was only making good music during a small time frame of their career.
The new lineup is awesome and their album charted at #3. So it's obvious the fans had no problem with the new and Ellefson-less Megadeth.
@@NAlvazaz That's great if the music is still good, the point I'm making is that it's not Megadeth anymore. Not to me at least. Only 1 remaining Original member for any band especially a metal band. I'm not interested. Again that's fine if people like them, but to ME (as I said in the inital comment) it's no longer Megadeth in MY mind.
@@djjazzyjeff1232 ok. You're free to feel that way. Have a good day.
Sounds like Dave Mustaine was looking to get rid of him anyway and needed the perfect excuse to do it.....Well he got it.
Ridiculous. Sure its embarrassing, but between adults, who cares. Mustaine being a Christian hasn't done much good has it. Wetter
He was married
@@drew69 So let his Wife "fire" him then...
@@superbird9095 Yeah that was like 30 years ago before he was born again, also I think cheating on your wife with a woman the same age as your daughter is a bit worse than performing witchcraft in your twenties.
totally agreed
Mustaine being Christian probably didn't factor in this decision at all. you don't think it's creepy for 56 year old man to be having communications with an underage girl and then taking it to the next level when she turns 18, Really dude, You don't see a problem with that?? . I read the young ladies statement she clearly states that the communication between her and Dave had been ongoing but nothing inappropriate happened while she was a minor. This whole thing might not be illegal but it is creepy.
Plot twist: After all, Megadeth was indeed Dave Mustaine's ego project...
Tf? Dave jr already got a second chance, but they let him back in. I think its totally fair that he was fired I wouldnt give him a third chance if I were Mustaine. (To put it short, you need to get your facts straight people.)
@@metalfan1017 as long as it doesn't affect the upcoming tour. I got tix for September 1st
@@jasoncalabasas4263 To be honest, I hope it doesnt either I got tix for the 18th of September.
Anti-Metalica
Damn it sounds like they were already kinda done with Ellefson before all of this considering the “with an already strained relationship” zoinks
Maybe it's all made up to lighten up the blow for fans. Only they know.
Well I mean he did sue Dave Mustaine...
@@tylerthomas1864I guess these words are pretty meaningless now...
'I wanna tell you, it was the stupidest thing I ever did suing you, and I wanna apologize.' And I looked at him and I waited a beat, and I said, 'Dave, I forgive you. I completely forgive you. I love you.' And it was over like that. And I think that that's really something great that people should take with them today, anybody listening to this. There may be somebody you need to forgive or somebody you need to apologize to, but I'll tell you what - it makes [you feel] a lot better at the end of the day."
Mustaine only has strained relationships.
@@Imfreehowaboutu based and Davepilled
“.....with an already strained relationship.....”
I wonder what that’s all about? Is there some other disputing that we don’t know about between Mustaine and Ellefson before this recent stuff surfaced?
I mean having an unstrained relationship with dave Mustaine must be impossible
im gonna guess this is from when mustaine sued ellefson for using megadeths name in some promo vids when he wasnt in the band. mustaine has been a jerk for many many years
Based on the statement it sounds like the decision had more to do with the 'strained relationship' while the leak was the excuse.
There’s got to be a legality issue that Megadeth lawyers are probably aware of if this was their decision
I've lost so much respect for Megadeth over this. David was the victim in this crime.
Literally how? Kicking David out was the right thing to do. Stop defending creeps and cheaters.
@@nate-ds9tg Considering you call yourself "pussypolice69" this sounds a bit self-righteous. Just sayin'.
@@deepcreep98 Hahahahhahaha
@@nate-ds9tg The man engaged in sexual activity with a consenting adult in private. The woman (without his consent) shared their PRIVATE intimate sessions with a friend, who in turn shared it with the Internet. David did not break any laws, David did not force anything, David did nothing wrong. Morally? Sure. But the dude is a R O C K S T A R. Name ONE that hasn't done anything morally questionable. Or perhaps we should take a look at Dave's track record, and examine all the garbage he's dragged that band through, INCLUDING David?
How would you feel if your sexual life was publicly put on blast? (Assuming you have one) If you and your partner took part in private affairs, only for her to share with a friend and in turn have that friend post it on the Internet? Especially when you legally did nothing wrong. He's not a creep for doing what he did. A cheater, sure, but he doesn't deserve to be kicked out of a band he's put decades of his life into. The entire band should be kicked out in that case.
@@nate-ds9tg literally the first song in your profile picture's album is about dave cheating
The person who ellefson should answer to, is his wife. He's a musician in a metal band, The two Dave's are no saints. He got caught with someone, who wasn't his wife. Hats off to the woman who come forward to clarify the situation.
Why she is guilty too she ain't innocent
At least David Ellefson proved he can handle himself in a scandal.
Weakest reason in the history of Rock for firing someone.
Isn't megadeath thrash metal?
Yngwie Malmsteen once fired a singer for not acknowledging that he was God.
@@Hellenicheavymetal That's metal as fuck - what are you talking about.
@@usaid6354 You're arguing semantics.
Cheating on his wife? Weak??
Kinda feel like Megadeth should retire after this album anyway. Without Ellefson it's just Mustaine project and he's getting a bit too old, should spend this part of his life with his family really.
If Megadeth does depart after the album, then the dumb little Metallica vs. Megadeth arguments can cease.
@@thegodofsoapkekcario1970 oh, how I've been wishing for that. But still, some Metallica fans are going to say "haha Metallica lasted longer than Megadeth lol" and it hurts
@@lemon_curry_ That's because "We'll never stop, we'll never quit, 'cause we're Metallica".
Mustaine going to be sixty this year. He really should spend the rest of his life his family.
I think dave did state on his radio show thing that it would be their last album
Just wanna point out jason has come out about not being able to tour anymore due to shoulder damage from aging so he definitely won't be the replacement bassist sorry y'all I'd love to see that myself but we are all more likely to hit the Lotto
Facts. I've seen plenty of these videos too, and the words are coming straight out of Jason's mouth. He said he can't play Metallica anymore at 100%, so there's no way he's doing stuff at Megadeth's speed. That would be awesome to see him back though.
Yeppp and it sucks
Even if he was capable I don't think the Jason of 2021 would put up with mustaines BS
Damn 😳 this is crazy. I honestly don’t know if Jason can keep up with them since he made it clear that he can’t do any thrash metal anymore but if he somehow does then I’ll be surprised
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@@michaeljackson8390 what?
@@michaeljackson8390 Get back in the kitchen and make some sammichs.
Too much drama there, i don't see it happening for that reason alone.
But yeah, Jason can get a song or two out. But an entire 2 hour performance is a whole different story.
Actually Jason still makes pretty good music
If there's no victim and no crime, then WTF is going on? When did Mustaine become the moral majority dictator of the Metal genre?
Did they not do porn? I think more should say no to porn
@@mrex3553 No argument here. Porn is voyeurism, plain and simple. It kills the libido and often times makes it difficult to maintain romantic relationships. It's habit forming and addictive as well. Other than that, it's great lol.
@@mrex3553 Goodie for what YOU think.
Damn the scene is becoming soft. Bunch of hypocrites honestly. As if everyone in that band hasn't sent some sort of "adult" pic to someone. Here's the thing, everyone on earth has dirt that could be dug up. Especially in the music industry.... Honestly IMO it makes Megadeth look really bad for firing him. A founding member too. Way to have some backbone and stick up for you team Megadeth. Way to fall in line to todays BS politics and cancel culture.
“In my hour of need, no, you were not there.”
Still I think this is Ellefson's family issue. It's personal, none of his bandmates should've meddled.
Agree
Lol. If he was working as a teacher at a high school, he would have been let go, too. Personal actions affect business decisions.
Who was meddling?
@@ev25zv he's not a teacher at a highschool. This was a woman of legal age. She was consenting. She video taped his FaceTime calls, without his permission and shared them. Apples to hand grenades. It's it cringe worthy? Yes. It's it morally weak? Yes. Should he be working this betrayal out with his wife and within his faith? YES. But he's not a teacher and the woman was a consenting adult who betrayed HIM.
@@staceykelly4211 Just telling you how business in general works. Jeffery Toobin got fired from all his consulting jobs for the same thing, and he was just multi-tasking and had a camera mishap. Same thing would happen if he worked at Intel. If he were in my band, I'd fire him just for being an idiot because I don't like to work with idiots because they make poor choices. Anywhoo, the jury is still out on whether she was a minor or not, so we'll wait and see.
Also, you can't record video on FaceTime, and on Zoom if you hit record it tells the other party that it's being recorded.
Lol @ she betrayed "HIM" as if he's the victim here. He was being an idiot and "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" was in full effect. Now he's lost his job, will probably lose his marriage, and lose his status in the church (unless he ups his donations, then they'll forgive him). I feel bad for him, but this is all his doing - stop trying to deflect that fact.
So he spanked it online with another consenting adult? Big freaking deal. We've all done that lol. Well I'm sure a lot of us have. Dave seems like such a good, down to earth guy imo. Getting kicked out of the band you've been playing for for decades is BS
We haven’t all become “Lutheran pastors” to preach about God and family though, have we?
@@kimonmatara6903 If he was a catholic priest, he would've just been transferred to a band in some foreign country...
@@kimonmatara6903 who cares! He is rockstar first and foremost. If he wants to preach on the side thats fine too. But he gets to live the rockstar life cuz thats what he is! That means bangin chicks all kinds. So he rubbed one out on cam with another adult woman. Big fn deal.
@@pizzaprince Sure, he is a rockstar.... a rockstar who is MARRIED and HAS KIDS! Being a rockstar doesn't mean he has a free pass to be an @$$hole with no morals and decency. The pain he caused is family and everyone around him is just wrong. What he did was just irresponsible on his part. I bet if a man who isn't famous did the same thing, no one would be defending him...
@@camilacastro2773 he didnt even cheat. What he did was no different than masturbating to porn
As long as it was consensual.
I've done weird shit myself. Who hasn't?
I definitely have..
I do agree that, if what said about the girl being an adult is true, that it's not really that big of a deal. BUT, on the business side of things, I think letting him go was probably the best thing that they could have done. Even if it wasn't actually grooming, the fact that the controversy happened to begin with is enough to stain the reputation of the band, and would probably be made worse if David wasn't let go, and that would be really bad for the rest of them. I dunno, just my two cents on the matter.
I'm sure Mustaine spanked his meat to his groupies online also. The key phrase that was said was "an already strained relationship". There was stuff going on behind the scene. Mustaine and Ellefson weren't on good terms. This was a reason to get rid of him
If you even paid the slightes attention to Newsteds past interviews you'll know he wont join the band. His shoulder is messed up good after all the years on the road. And are not able to go back there even if he wants to.
Lately Jason has played guitar in a small band and singing, you guys should check out his UA-cam channel! He posts alot there
Jason Newsted said that after the surgery he had back in the early 2000s, he no longer can keep up with playing live shows as much as he did with Metallica. So I'm pretty sure he won't be joining Megadeth after all that said.
What! Over the BS the other day? 😳 Crazy...update: yep! Absurd! It's crazy, wtf it's not like it was rape! It was two adults! It's not like Megadeth is a bunch of Nuns! 😂
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Welcome to the world we now live in. Cancel Culture is thriving.
Exactly plus whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty and what does that have to with megadeth?
@ Megadeth is the one's who have separated themselves from their bassist. In America they say Innocent until proven Guilty but we know that's a bunch of BS!
Losing his gig in Megadeth is the least of his worries now (potentially his marriage, home, net worth) Depending on how deep the rabbit hole goes, he’s going to be fighting for his freedom in the coming months/year.
It would seem to follow logic that Mustaine was probably keeping up on the details of what happened and to separate him from his job in Megadeth, the reality is probably not good!
Wdym potentially. They will absolutely get a divorce I guarantee it. And honestly in this case, I don't see any other way. I don't know his wife at all but assuming she never cheated she has every right to cut ties and get part of his money. Man, to see a man such as David fall this low. I never would've imagined it
@@Walamonga1313 No one knows what kind of support system he has or the exact circumstances beyond what we are privy to via social media but when this kind of thing happens, especially if there is a possibility of someone not being legal age?? Law enforcement is all over it!
I’m sure the rabbit hole is being gone down and investigated.
@@Brian-lt1rf The "victims" have stated that they were of legal age and it was consensual.
First juniors a part owner, then fired and brought back as a paid employee for 3k a week then fired dooohhh Dave did him dirty
I have no sympathy for him. You don’t get to quite literally preach morality to people as a “Lutheran pastor” and then not expect to be judged by your own standards.
Ha! Is he really a Lutheran pastor?
@@NailFactoryProds Yes.
Jr. is a Lutheran minister . He’s very open that becoming a Christian was key to his recovery from addiction . He made a big mistake morally . I hate it for his family . He being a celebrity everything he does is going to be scrutinized . He being open about his faith is going to put him in the media’s crosshairs . He is in a leadership position in his church and the metal community. Being a Christian don’t mean that you live a perfect life and not struggle . No doubt that it doesn’t look good but if he were of any other faith it would be a video leaked of
I’ve never heard him wagging his finger at anyone nor judging anyone. He simply states that his relationship with Christ was key to his recovery from substance addiction . I know that there’s judgmental Christians out there . If he were of any other faith no one would say anything about judging him by his own standards . Saying you don’t agree with his actions from a personal moral standpoint is fine .
@@brandonjackson5865 He had a sexual relationship. That's not immoral.
As a big fan of Dave mustaine and Megadeth that's pretty f****** lame of him.
Didn’t the girl on tape say it wasn’t what it seemed? Why don’t people wait and see what happens. And see if he did anything wrong instead of just firing people immediately.
She literally CONFIRMED that they were a) both of age and b) it was actually HER who started it
Exactly!!!!
Dudes ain't getting any younger. Work through your problems like adults. Man the human race anymore is gone man! Hooey hooey hooey!!
If Jason joins Megadeth I hope we will be able to hear his bass this time.
Well, he DIDN'T record them and send them. SHE recorded video calls without his knowledge, is what SHE said. Then she said she gave them to someone else. She was of age, agree what says. So...
That's what I read as well. If they really fired him because someone else recorded him without permission AND shared it without permission...well that just stinks!
I hope she feels like shit for ruining his reputation.
@@dexxfilm and career. Fn bich
Seems like dave was just looking for the first excuse to kick him out.
I completely agree 👍
I also agree with you. Dave's nature is like, he is perfectly suited to be caged and kept away from sane people because he's rude and dangerous.
Mustaine is the more embarrassing Dave from Megadeth.
Well, do you know the facts? Did Mustaine try and talk to a young adult, even though he has a child himself, and complicated marriage with Pam?
Nope.
True that. His kind of people should be caged and kept away from sane mentality people.
@Ivo Haze this isn't really about Bob Crane but alright
Nope
FIND THE ONE WHO SHOWED THE VIDEO ONLINE AND LIED ABOUT ABUSE FOR ATTENTION! We need to find him, he should face the consequences.
Mustaine has had revenge on his mind ever since ellefson sued him years ago.
And just when I thought they'd finally reached a stable lineup with Dirk, Kiko and Ellefson
So Dave is victimizing the victim
What was done to him, was a crime.
his wife is a victim of being cheated on LOL
@@ARG0This wife, a "victim"?
you've obviously never been to family court.
Ironic that a few decades ago Mustaine was crying that Metallica never gave him a second chance. Cancel culture hits the new WOKE Megadeth.
Might want to look up their history... Ellefson already had his second chance.
@@JunkfoodZombieGuns what did Eleffson do?
@@JunkfoodZombieGuns Ellefson left on his own to do other material...he was never fired before this. History....
@@ivsiguitarist I never said he was fired.
@@JunkfoodZombieGuns Then how did he already get a second chance? Dude we're arguing semantics for nothing. Move on.
*Insert some kind of monster reference*
“What, no warning? No second chance”
Easy to judge Dave Mustaine. However, I did notice even as just a fan from afar there was something slightly off between Ellefson and Mustaine relationship before these recent events took place. In any case, perhaps David Ellefson needs time to himself and so had to go. Dave Mustaine is looking older by the day, they don't have much time to waste and so they have to crack on. The Megadeth story just seems so sad, I hope they achieve what they want when they finally call it a day.
Good points !
Just shows how corporate these big metal bands are. Like an actor getting dropped from all their advertisers that don't want the bad PR but they also don't mind partaking in cheap labor and horrible working conditions. No loyalty.
It is the 21st century now, these old bands are now big corporations economically supporting many families
The real part about it, it has been dead for a long time
And I mean no disrespect for what they have done, it is amazing and they can still put on great shows and all
But I think we should encourage new bands that actually have that raw emotion to them and open up the space for a new scene...
Once Covid is over I am sure this will happen
So Sylvester Stallone can make a porno but Dave can't have a private video call? Weird
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Stallone made a porno?
@@jrayne93 yup
Stallone started in porn. His porn name was The Italian Stallion.
Stallone isn't in Megadeth...YET.
I would LOVE to see the video that was so bad that it got him fired from Megadeth
You really don’t, don’t go looking for it. It’s very disturbing and nsfw
Trust me, you don't. If you want to curse your eyes, though, it's on Twitter somewhere. I warned you.
It's a video of Ellefson Jackson's. I mean...who the hel would want to see that? And if it was a female bandmember whose video leaked, the press and her band would be defending her, and helping dry a fountain of tears. This isn't reasonable at all. I'm positive that Mustaine has done far worse things.
I can't listen to megadeth without seeing it... it's not worth it my friend
@@Stuntmanforlyf
Why, how bad is it? I heard he is just spanking the monkey in the video and it’s not even that clear that it’s David in the vid. (Unless there is more I’ve yet to hear about) I don’t wanna see it unless I feel more compelled to understand how bad it is.
Best quote I read is David wanted to Bust in Peace and now faces the Train of Consequences...
I've been a Megadeth fan for many years and always wanted to see them live, but I refuse to go to any of there shows if David isn't let back in the band.
I forgive you Dave. And I think dave mustaine does too . It’s nothing personal just business, I think. It’s hard for a Christian, people always using that against you. I’m a sinner
Dave mustaine calls himself a born again christian and still turns his back on his friend for 40 years, when in need... hahaha what a "born again Christian" 👏👏👏👏
So the other party made a statement to clarify this whole thing, yet he gets fired? Justice-guilty until proven innocent.
It says "grooming girls" so am assuming it's very likely there have been others...
He still cheated on his wife for someone ~37 years younger than him. You don't think that's even a little creepy?
Cancel culture has made it to heavy metal.
@@MidnightMark12 cAnCeL cUlTuRe
@@Shawner1000 as long if they weren’t minors...... I sure hope they weren’t.
Why ? Can anyone ever stand with their friends anymore or are we all just going to be backstabbing traitors ?
Mustaine is not a reliable friend, he saw after all Ellefson just as another employee of his company that he still regret is not as big as the 'tallica company. To think he joked about Lars being hypocritical and treacherous.
He betrayed his wife, so I mean...
@@ARG0T it's their marriage not yours
Facts
We gotta also remember that this is the second time Ellefson wasn't in Megadeth, he wasn't there from The World Needs A Hero until Th1rt3en and then Mustaine brought him back. He will be back eventually.
And we now present to you MegaDave!!!
Mustaines such a good forgiving Christian...Lol
No shit, huh
@@jcass1970 I expose the Illuminati (our evil totalitarian government) I have 2,000,000 overall channel views🥣💓
That typical " Christian" type behavior ..Holier Than Thou'
That's what happens when you wack off while under age (17yr old ) girl watches
@@michaelblody3053 it was educational. She wanted to know what a money shot was!
does Mustaine have any relationships that arent strained?
Geeze, these days you get fired for being an adult human being who got unfairly put on blast via social media... who'da thought. 😑
Well david tried to word himself into that but you cant, he cheated on his wife with a girl that was like 18?19? Plus adultery is a sin in christianity so he is not gonna get by without some scrutiny.
@@thanatos425 Yeah, isn't he also a pastor? Yikes.
@@waldi7080 That just confirms a sterotype about religious leaders.
@@thanatos425 There are black sheep everywhere but it's also really disappointing coming from him, probably because I'm Christian as well. It's still saddening that he's not part of Megadeth anymore.
@@waldi7080 Well I am a christian to but id say im a man with faults. Im not going to judge him for what most people in the world do but hes just in a tough spot and probably will not mend. I think when Mustaine fired him he was thinking about his own daughter and just doesnt want him around. Who knows
Kinda gives a whole new meaning to hammer-ons pull-offs and slapping. I don't think he used a pick for this one.
Pls no man, even if Dave Ellefson was cheating on his wife, I’ll miss him, one of the best people in this world
Not anymore. Cheaters are scumbags
@@Walamonga1313 they can be, but Dave is still a hell of a guy
We can’t just accuse one party or the other for being a jerk, none of us know the full story. There’s probably tons more personal stuff behind the scenes. Calm down, comment section
Damn.....been listening to Megadeth since 1987. I've been pronouncing Dave Ellefson last name wrong all this time!! 😂
I don't know too much about this whole situation, but I'm just wondering, since no one else seems to bring this up...
What would the public reaction be if that happened to a female?
I know what David elifsen did was wrong but Dave mustaine was being hypocritical as he wanted a second chance from Metallica and he didn’t even give David elifsen a second chance
Unless Ellefson online-partner was Mustaine's daugther, I really don't understand why he was fired cos of this. I mean, if this is the most dirt Mustaine could find for him to get fired, then they should have just said "we can't stand each other so we are breaking up" and that's it...........this was a very political move by Mustaine.......writing all those lyrics over the years teached him well.
Never thought I’d see the day where Dave M got “woke”
From what I see, he is just trying to protect his bands image from this scandal. He obviously doesn't want to be associated with that. I don't think this has anything to do with him suddenly being "woke".
@@camilacastro2773 I was gonna say, this isn't an example of someone being "woke", it's of someone distancing themselves from Ellefson's personal drama.
I mean, he did get a band kicked off a show because he said they were satanic. And that was WAAAY back in 2005. Whether you agree with him or not, that's the definition of woke.
@@wayfaringstranger8430 No that's not the definition of woke, that's satanic panic. I feel like as a metalhead you should know this...
@@Diogenes_ofSinope That's the same thing. It's outrage culture...
wow. I am sure there is more to this than we have seen.
okay now they're gonna have Jason? I'm not complaining
Certainly not. Dude can’t even play Metallica songs anymore, he sure as hell can’t play Megadeth
He said he can't play more tallica songs so idk
If newsted can't play Metallica he won't be able to play Megadeth
No way Jason will be a replacement
its unlikely his happy doing his own thing definitely won't join Megadeath
It is quite sad seeing an icon(s) folding to the weakness of today. I can’t fathom the way the world is now.
Wow..Ellefson is a cornerstone to the thrash/speed metal era creating the most iconic opening bass riff in metal.