OMG, this is exactly what I need!!! Now the flail mower will have controls. Thank you so much for striving to "make a better mouse trap"! You truly represent American ingenuity! God Bless!
All of us have a gift of some kind to put a mark in this World. Tim I am blown away by your knowledge of the mechanics of how all this hydraulic system works. I'm watching you demonstrate this and still don't quite understand it. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I'm not trying to blow smoke but I've never talked to a Tractor salesman at any dealership that had a fraction of this knowledge. Basically you are showing the depths of what a person can get out of their Tractor. I love it. In time I'm going to set my Tractor up with more features you are demonstrating. Thanks for sharing. Mark.
You proposed the idea of this could be a less expensive way to add the third function to the loader without the cost of the diverted. That made my ears perk up. I will look forward to hearing more about that possibility. Thanks for another great video. Stay safe. Bruce from Mason Michigan
Good stuff.....Sailors watching your channel will recognize the term "BOAT unit", after watching your videos for the past year or so, I think the term might also be applicable to tractors as in Break Out Another Thousand ! Love my 1025R John
First seen this video six hours after it was release and thought it was funny that the four port is already backordered. Looks like there were a lot of meetings with finance departments this Sunday. My finance department said I should put it on my wish list. Was looking at my tractor a 2019 2025r I have the back hoe so I already have the power beyond. I might have to put the block on the other side because its already a squeeze to get up and sit down at it. Thank you Tim for this news it is a way cheaper alternative then anything else I've seen.
This also looks like a great option for a DIYer looking for one stop solution to control a bank of hydraulic options, with a little bit of adaption it should fit anything. Thanks for sharing!
Looks good but like you said There is no room on these tractors to add anything. As a option is There a cover that can be purchased to cover the valves and maybe have a hinged door located on the hydraulics side for hook up access. There is a lot that can be done to make these little tractors work more efficiently and you just helped out. Have a Great Day, GOD BLESS
I am installing this kit on my 4066R cab tractor now. I already have 4th and 5th for my top and tilt. I do have power beyond already. My needs are to run my inverted snowblower for shoot rotation and deflector . Then also the right and left wings on the blower too. Thanks for your efforts to get these parts available and the indepth info you provided. I understand this is an older video, but it still applies the same today.
Thanks! We have some more videos on this and associated products. This was the first one…maybe the most detailed, but we do have more. Again, thanks for the kind words!
To address the extra cable length issue, just design it short, then have an optional intermediate extension to plug in between the connectors. Could even offer several extensions of different lengths. Boom. 💥
Back in my Lowrider days I had a valve block like that in my car with one pump. I could control each corner up and down separately. The setup was nick named a spider pump. Just sharing Ha!
nice set up. nobody had one when i got my 1025 with backhoe in 2/20 , so i built one. its a 2 spool manual valves on the right. Built all new brackets and ammo box tool box. Put a T on one and ran 2 hoses to the front loader for my homemade grapple. According to my research summit forgot a tank dump line back in . probably will be ok. I re did the power beyond and made a hard attached line on each female quick connect. , one behind the seat and the other down in front of my left foot on the backhoe . it is much easier to hook and unhook than the JD factory configuration because my hands are not as strong as they use to be. Did not keep up with the cost but it probably was more , but it works great and it was a lot of planning and work. Summit and you will have many sales. I bought a 1025 because of your great videos. thanks
I think a small improvement would be momentary switches that spring back to the off position on the control panel. Im excited about the product. Cant wait to order one. Thanks Tim !
Would there be an ability to add potentiometers to the valves to control the current sent to the solenoids. That may be an option to control the flow speed to provide a more fine tuned adjustment.
That sort of makes me think of the loader tractor I grew up with. It was a Case 300 and there was a valve under your seat you had to open or close to change from using you loader or your three point hitch.....
Summit are great to work with. I needed 2 remotes for my snowblower and the electrical solutions seemed a lot for what I needed. I had one remote. I just needed a simple way to do a second. I spent maybe an hour on the phone with one person and then a couple emails to finalize a design with actual photos. My tractor is from 1968. The only thing I had to create was a bracket to hold the Summit product. Everything else I needed came from Summit in a "kit" set up perfectly for my application. Best of all, I can easily restore the 1968 original setup without any visible evidence. (one of the original holes holding the remote bracket had to be made larger to fit the bolt into the Summit block, but that larger hole is completely covered and does not cause any issues with the OEM bracket.) Best of all, my "solution" was under $300. While this is a great solution for people who have modern machines, Summit can certainly help create solutions for any need. Oh, and if you even think you might like a hydraulic top link, GET ONE. That has been a real nice addition when doing work with the land plane and offers a lot more utility to the boom pole. Even a slight change makes a huge difference. I can bet a box blade would respond even better. As for the hydraulic tilt, I can see that being useful, but not nearly as much. My tractor has a nice simple crank to alter the tilt and I don't tend to tilt very often. The only time I did was when I was cutting a new road crown. When buying your top link, pay special attention to the lengths and how much range you get. I went out with a "normal" top link and measured out several different models to see how they would work in real life. I ended up getting one that was a little shorter than most places recommended. Meaning I have more adjustment to make it shorter than longer. Why? Because I don't need much beyond level in the long direction, but making it shorter provides me a lot more lift on my Boom Pole when it is attached. Think about all your uses because $200 for a top link isn't too expensive, but you don't want to have to do it twice. Tim, looking forward to all the new equipment that you can operate with that setup. I notice some knobs next to each remote. Do they allow you to adjust the flow rate? If so, that is a fantastic feature that you didn't discuss. On my splitter, I can't set a different flow for my snowblower chute rotation and chute angle, so I compromise. The rotation isn't quite as fast as I would like, but it made the chute angle much easier to control Being able to adjust the flow rate on each remote would help to dial in the speed things operate since all you have is on/off on your setup. Neat Product from a great company.
This is great! I have been contemplating a solution for my older JD 755 compact tractor for rear remotes. I need to figure out if this is compatible and I'm a buyer. This is a game changer in terms of what can be added to rear attachments. Nice work guys!
I’m certain this will work for you. We just have to figure out where the power beyond ports are on your machine. Dirt Perfect will know. He has a rear valve plumbed on his 855.
@@TractorTimewithTim Thanks Tim! I'll get it figured out. I was going to go with the extension hose route as I'm building a rear attachment that will need at least two scv.
Saaaaweet! 👍 This is the first electric over hydraulic SCV solution driven from a power beyond circuit I've ever seen. A more typical "multiplier" solution (which Summit also sells) would require an actual rear SCV valve to drive the multiplier block, with each SCV enabled by a switch -you pick which multiplier SCV circuit the factory SCV drives. One thing you didn't mention, but I assume has to be the case, is that when no electric over hydraulic SCVs are being activated, the power beyond circuit is free flowing from its source to return, just as the normal power beyond bypass hose does when the factory power beyond circuit is not connected to a back hoe.
Tim; This system looks great. I have a JD 3520 (2006 vintage) cab tractor that uses an electric solenoid diverter or to send the loader hydraulics to the rear. Then you use the loader control to function the two circuits at the back of the tractor. You have to use either the FEL or the rear circuits but they can not be used together. I am constantly flipping the electric switch to go between the functions either front or rear. I do have power beyond on the tractor. This looks like a way to achieve the rear removes and still have the loader at hand. Plus, with a top and tilt cylinders on the rear, the two extra remotes would give me the added hydraulic functions for my implements. This way I don’t sacrifice my top and tilt to get the implements powered. I just need to work up a mounting since I don’t have ROPS. Thanks, Chip
Great video as always Tim! I would be lying if I said your channel and videos did not persuade me in adding a 1025r to my fleet of green! Now with that said, I was a huge fan of your video with the 55 series tractor not too long ago. I have a 1995 John Deere 970 with 500 hours on it and I have in the last month had not one, but two diverted kits installed. One going down the loader and one out the back for a hydraulic top link. I would be absolutely thrilled to be a part of another “old vs. new” comparison on your channel to compare what an old 33hp gear drive tractor can do up against your newer equipment and attachments! Hoping to hear from you soon! Take care! -Jim
Your creation is the next best thing to factory. I added a hydraulic top link and believe all tractors should come that way. Until they do, we have you to thank for our rear hydraulic needs.
Great solution and provides so much more usability. “You can’t have too many hydraulic functions” and with the power beyond that is a slick way to get more of them. From the looks of the questions and comments Tim, I’m guessing we’ll see a follow-up on this as well. Super job Tim! Blessings.
Thanks for reviewing this option! It was like trying to read hieroglyphics when I was looking at this option from my now sold 1025R. Now I've got a bigger tractor with two rear accessories, and would LOVE to have a few easy to install diverters. Also, our rear accessory ports are detent (vs spring), so we could run a rig like this.
I already had power beyond for my back hoe. I bought an open center electric over hydraulic valve from Summit, and plumbed and wired it myself. I got inexpensive, waterproof joysticks on Ebay and placed them into a box next to my seat that is accessible from the drivers seat and back hoe seat. It works great. I have a hydraulic swivel blade on the back, and added hydraulics to the thumb on my backhoe. This does everything your setup does, and I did this before your system was available. I put the bulkhead next to the fender on the right side, where the ROPS connects to the tractor. I used Discounthydraulichose for the plumbing. I just can't resist a good mod.
I have been thinking how I could use power beyond for something like that, glad to see this is out now and I’m going to get one for sure.... Thanks Tim and crew :)
Summit makes quality products! I have the first solution Tim mentioned. It uses hydraulics from the loader. The nice thing about this solution is it uses the joy stick to operate the two rear remotes. Very easy to toggle from loader to each of the rears. I am really happy with this option. But I do see some additional benefits with this new option. It offers more rear remotes and uses fewer hoses to set it up.
Tim, I did the same thing with to get my 3rd function for a grapple except using the single switch. However I bought the summit manual dual valve which lets me switch from loader 3rd function to rear top link. I don’t use both at the same time after removing my backhoe. The beauty it I can use the buttons on the Summit loader handle for grapple or top link. Simpler for now and I don’t have a lot of attachments and I wanted to keep tilt and curl active.
I also bought a valve from Summit for my third function, which I mounted up front, and adapted a joy stick controller for the loader control. Summit has been very helpful. I am now using the re-usable hydraulic fittings and buy my hose in bulk. Even with the discount, custom hoses get expensive.
@@TractorTimewithTim ibex is what comes to mind but there is others. Yanmar I think has some that I believe is made from another Japanese company they maybe a little easier to get a hold of.
great info Tim I wish this would've been available earlier(2 years) it would have made my addition of T&T much easier but, at least now I can point a couple of friends this way that want T&T on their 1025's
I was wondering when you were going to do it. GWT showed it a month or 2 ago but he didn't put it on a 1025r. I'm glad to see it's available now. Awesome work Tim.
Great work Tim. I would love to have this on my 2038r but you was right the cost from Deere was just to much I now have to price this out for my tractor thanks for the video
I did not realize it was that difficult to get remotes on one series. That’s a good solution The discount hoses website is definitely a good idea too because I paid twice that for the hoses I ran from my rear remotes up to the front when I first got my tractor tractor
For third function purposes, can you design a trigger addition that could work one of the toggles but be mounted on the loader joy stick? It'd be a nice optional addition and would keep the operator from having to go back and forth. Love this product!
@@TractorTimewithTim Any updates on this topic? Im wanting to do a 3rd functions on my Kubota L3240, but thinking I could do the rear remote kit and run one set to front and kill 2 birds with 1 stone.
@@TractorTimewithTim Exactly what I'm looking for! Do these kits apply to Kubota tractors as well? Just saw later in video they do apply. Thank you so much for the info!
Interesting design Tim. One suggestion for the "extra" electric control cable would be to put a bracket on the bottom of the control box boom. You could wind the extra cable on that bracket.
I would love to take you up on your offer, but having a little resistance from the finance committee. Getting approval for a kit, plus a 1025, trailer, and a larger truck seems to be too much.
Tim, great job on this video. You may have just answered a question I asked on another video. I was really looking for something like this. And but for the fact that I live in NC would have gladly visited you with my tractor... oh.. but, I do not qualify for your offer since I already have the power beyond. Keep up your excellent videos. Thanks.
The remote control - consider a Silo lift elevator and flood gates to fill the elevator or cut it off..... Lots of cool stuff. I have a diverter in the rear and that might be a ticket for something down the way. Cool indeed.
Hi Tim an Christie thanks for the videos if you're working on a project without the right equipment you'll be getting this set up ASAP have a day love from TEXAS
We've been using hydraulic manifolds on lowriders since the 1980's. Good to see the country boys have caught up with the times. Get a manifold with dump valves and a switch box, and boom, front back side to side.. for your leveling box blade of course.
Nice solution Tim! I just purchased my B2601 this past fall and had the dealer install factory 2 rear remotes knowing id atleast use the one/two for now for top/tilt...with all the nice attachments coming out these days for our smaller tractors, this will be an easy way to get additional remotes if I ever need them. Thank you for comming up with this setup, God bless you & your family 👍🏻
I do not have a backhoe yet, but I did ask my dealer and they said the backhoe would still require a seperate setup than the rear remotes i have now. I would assume that the power beyond kit used for the backhoe could be purchased and used for this remote setup if you didn’t have the backhoe hooked up.
This is a great idea! I would recommend looking into replacing the electric switches with joysticks. And no, I don't mean hydraulic levers. I mean joysticks like they use in arcade cabinets. You could replace the 4 switches with 2 joysticks in the same space and keep the feeling/spirit of a stick while still using electronic controls.
@@TractorTimewithTim I don't doubt that. I'm just saying that a couple of arcade sticks will get you the same functionality as four switches for people who really feel like using a stick instead of a switch.
@@TractorTimewithTim Might be a fun project. A little expensive, though. The parts to do the electronics are cheap enough, but I don't have a tractor yet, and that's the expensive part... :)
Amazing! Super excited about this. 3rd function front and three rears for not much more than you pay for just the loader 3rd function. The best part is, direct connect to power beyond! Love it! Thank you.
I can see putting this on my larger tractor, a Kioti RX7320 as well. I have 3 rear remotes, but I want top link cylinder, tilt cylinder, and then a full compliment of adjustment cylinders on an Everything Attachments land shark 9ft rear blade. thats 3 more cylinders at least, even if I use a manual tail wheel. this looks pretty easy to plumb into most tractors that have at least 1 set of hydraulics. Great video Tim!
This is AWESOME. Might have to take you up on your offer, but I’m not 100% sure what I need yet. A top and tilt would be cool for my rake or a box blade in the future. Using it for the 3rd function on the loader would be amazing too as it seems like a clean installation.
I’ve been looking at adding 4 remotes to my kubota L4740 off the PB hook up for my backhoe and I think I’ve found exactly what I’m looking for now. Thank you
I should come out and have you do this, 3 pt log splitter, add angle to my back blade instead of manual adjustment, and a rear log grapple come to mind right away.
Thats a very generous offer Tim. I brought a new J.D.3025 a couple years ago, and i ordered it with two rear remotes and two detent valves. Don't remember how much I paid but it wasn't cheap I'm sure.
Nice Tim! I was watching and my wife was in the room... long story short, she not only said no, she said it three times. Dang it! I would really like this but I’ll wait for now. Good to know this solution is out there. I just wired an electric outlet to run the up/down electric actuator (eBay) on the rear snowblower chute (I have the third function and the hose extensions to run the chute left/right like you ran yours for the offset flail mower, thanks for that). This would really be handy for things like that and so many other applications.
With the electronic switches I wonder if you could set up duplicate switches on the rear of the tractor for say the top and tilt to be able to utilize when hooking up implements? Probably not so useful for a little 10 series but more so on larger tractors.
How about a PTO driven hydraulic pump to operate front/rear skid-steer attachments along with multiple hydraulic circuits for front and rear? May not be much help for sub-compacts but would certainly help compact tractor functionality.
@@loganmartin8613 Thanks. I looked at QuickAttach and they have models HP15, HP20, and HP24 requiring 30-43HP, 44-53 HP, and 54-75 HP for q 540 RPM PTO and they supply 15 gpm, 20 gpm, and 24 gpm respectively. Pressure is 3,000 psi for all models. Have to email for a quote--I've found several suppliers for a PTO driven hydraulic pump ($200-$400) but that isn't a complete system with mounting hardware, oil reservoir, cooler, etc. So wouldn't be surprised if price for complete system was around $4K. Oh, they call it a "Power Pack Hydraulic Power Unit".
Nice Vid Tim, I am glad my old 1026R has a horizontal PB, I can use my body weight to fasten them. The vertical ones are a bit of PITA.... Had those on my 379 Pete. The big one sold out fast....
Great video. I just ordered a 4 spool rear remote with a 2 button joystick control for my 3rd function for a grapple. I have a 790 I bought new back in 01 and can't wait to install.
@@TractorTimewithTim I called them and spoke to David with a bunch of questions before ordering and then just plain forgot to use your code. Is it too late? Just ordered yesterday.
@@TractorTimewithTim Hi Tim just an FYI, I called them back and received my discount and they are giving you the credit for it. They were very helpful and I told them that it was your videos that helped me find them. Again thanks for your content!
Thanks for going through the this process. I am adding a 4 spool front and rear for a front grappler and a stump grinder in the rear. I have a 1070 with JD power beyond for my backhoe. You make it look simple. I would like to keep all spools active front and rear i need to find source and return and what fittings I need.
Good morning Tim. I have been waiting for this option. I think this is a great option. Couple things. The hoses look a little short. It looked to me that if you come straight down off the valve block then down along the bottom side of the lower bar over the the power beyond that would be a better route then the diagonal path it showed on this video. I also have two 2014 1025r one with and one with out power beyond we could put it on both of them. I read a comment about having a standard length wire and then selling an extension. That sounds like a good idea. Thanks.
Great idea, Tim. There are times I wanted rear remotes on my little GC1710 Massey but thought it was going to be too difficult. Your system looks like a game changer. Thanks for the video and wishing you and family well. 👍🏽🙂 Excuse my ignorance, but I had to look up the acronym SCV (Selective Control Valve) which I think pressures the remote and designates how much flow goes to a particular line.
You have a leak! 18:13 the top solenoid drips.... but that whole system is pretty damn nice and at a nice price too boot. I've got an 8 port block in a hydraulic boat trailer that costs thousands just for that piece.
Looks like you and summit did a great job. One sujestion I have is to make an add on kit that could be purchased. The rugged kit would include a shield (cover) for the wires and solenoids on the valve body, possibly abrasion resistant wire loom, and if the connectors are not already weather pack that could be a good option too. Looks like a very clean and well thought out package. 👍
I am excited to see how convenient you can make this to run a grapple. Hard to spend $1,000 on this for the rear and another $700+ for the front diverter. Would be great to use this set up to run some hoses to the front with some sort of nice switch on the loader. I know you have something planned.
1023e Yes the kit for rear scv blocks you out of power beyond deere kit. But you can always make your own power beyond. Fittings are O ring face seal. I need these extra outlets for my 4720 so I can run the stump grider with top and tilt also working.
I've worked with pneumatics and hydraulic systems. I like what your doing here. But want to let you know that wear ever you can use a 90 degree hose end instead of a 90 degree fitting you'll reduce flow restrictions and heat. Especially those double 90s at the tractor rear remote. Looks like a great product.
I have to look my manual if I can installed some like that,because when using the post driver I have to someone inside holding the hydraulic lever so I can use the post driver so I can do it myself.Great video thank you for sharing
This is so what I am looking for! I have a branson 2400h with the backhoe setup the same as the 1025R. I'm gonna order the 2 spool and do a hydro rear top link and extend two lines for a grapple. Maye summit can come up with a way to extend one of the switches to the loader stick to control a set of valves for said grapple.
Looks awesome! I got the "factory installed" dual remotes on my b2650.... looks like an after thought on their part. I would update to this in a heartbeat!
It looks like you are about 2.5 hours away but I would still come for the install video we can do a top and tilt while I'm there for another video ..I have a 2021 1025r with no power beyond ..( its because of your videos I bought one ).. Thanks for all the debt,lol..
Hi Tim, i rarely agree with you hahaha but this time yeah i agree, 3 years ago i did figured out myself this and choosing a good enough valve block, valves, etc... took me months... just for the joystick, (because i added a 3rd function while i was at it...) , its crazy tough to find one cheap enough for us Residential customer. 1000$ for the 4 rear remotes isnt expensive. looking forward for your installation video, its clearly lacking on youtube!! i had to do homework and learn how hydraulics works,, 1000$ is cheap to skip this!
I’m purchasing a new 1025R from AHW. My plan was to install the JD third function kit, BLV11143, as I like the Deere joystick control for the third function. I was also going to also install the JD third SCV kit for rear hydraulics. I like this idea better due to the increased number of outlets. I don’t think I’m too far from you as I’m in east central Illinois. Let me know, I’m willing😀
I build machinery which uses like valve configurations thank you for working with Summit to figure out the small tractor solution. Where did you get the light protection hard ware that is on your ROPs?
I know I have a bigger than compact tractor...but I have 3 sets on the rear and I'm cobbling together parts to have a third function fer the loader......have snow this year it will be nice to have hydraulic angle on my snow plow
OMG, this is exactly what I need!!! Now the flail mower will have controls. Thank you so much for striving to "make a better mouse trap"! You truly represent American ingenuity! God Bless!
💥 That’s a great solution for a multitude of tractors and quite reasonably priced. Thanks for sharing Tim!
*Keep on tractoring!* 👍
All of us have a gift of some kind to put a mark in this World. Tim I am blown away by your knowledge of the mechanics of how all this hydraulic system works. I'm watching you demonstrate this and still don't quite understand it. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I'm not trying to blow smoke but I've never talked to a Tractor salesman at any dealership that had a fraction of this knowledge. Basically you are showing the depths of what a person can get out of their Tractor. I love it. In time I'm going to set my Tractor up with more features you are demonstrating. Thanks for sharing. Mark.
I must not be TOO gifted, Mark if I can’t communicate effectively enough for you to understand! Sorry about that.
Anyway, thanks for the kind words!
@@TractorTimewithTim oh no. You are the man. It just takes me a little longer to get it!😁
Nice job Tim / Summit, I'm happy to see this finally come to the market.
You proposed the idea of this could be a less expensive way to add the third function to the loader without the cost of the diverted. That made my ears perk up. I will look forward to hearing more about that possibility. Thanks for another great video. Stay safe.
Bruce from Mason Michigan
Way to think outside the box, we appreciate all your thoughtful considerations on new ways to hook up our implements.
Good stuff.....Sailors watching your channel will recognize the term "BOAT unit", after watching your videos for the past year or so, I think the term might also be applicable to tractors as in Break Out Another Thousand !
Love my 1025R
John
First seen this video six hours after it was release and thought it was funny that the four port is already backordered. Looks like there were a lot of meetings with finance departments this Sunday. My finance department said I should put it on my wish list. Was looking at my tractor a 2019 2025r I have the back hoe so I already have the power beyond. I might have to put the block on the other side because its already a squeeze to get up and sit down at it.
Thank you Tim for this news it is a way cheaper alternative then anything else I've seen.
Instead of having the looped cable, you could have a standard length, with the connector. Then you could add an extension if needed.
This also looks like a great option for a DIYer looking for one stop solution to control a bank of hydraulic options, with a little bit of adaption it should fit anything. Thanks for sharing!
Yep. That is the intent!
Looks good but like you said There is no room on these tractors to add anything. As a option is There a cover that can be purchased to cover the valves and maybe have a hinged door located on the hydraulics side for hook up access. There is a lot that can be done to make these little tractors work more efficiently and you just helped out. Have a Great Day, GOD BLESS
Hydraulic 3-point hitch is slick!
3 point pallet forks come to mind. You could lift so much more than the front end loader.
I am installing this kit on my 4066R cab tractor now. I already have 4th and 5th for my top and tilt. I do have power beyond already. My needs are to run my inverted snowblower for shoot rotation and deflector . Then also the right and left wings on the blower too. Thanks for your efforts to get these parts available and the indepth info you provided. I understand this is an older video, but it still applies the same today.
And the twwt 5% always helps
Thanks! We have some more videos on this and associated products. This was the first one…maybe the most detailed, but we do have more.
Again, thanks for the kind words!
To address the extra cable length issue, just design it short, then have an optional intermediate extension to plug in between the connectors. Could even offer several extensions of different lengths. Boom. 💥
Back in my Lowrider days I had a valve block like that in my car with one pump. I could control each corner up and down separately. The setup was nick named a spider pump. Just sharing Ha!
Get outa here!
I still got a set of 112 spoke gold Dayton 14 inch wheels from back in those days.
Man, those were the good ol days.
nice set up. nobody had one when i got my 1025 with backhoe in 2/20 , so i built one. its a 2 spool manual valves on the right. Built all new brackets and ammo box tool box. Put a T on one and ran 2 hoses to the front loader for my homemade grapple. According to my research summit forgot a tank dump line back in . probably will be ok. I re did the power beyond and made a hard attached line on each female quick connect. , one behind the seat and the other down in front of my left foot on the backhoe . it is much easier to hook and unhook than the JD factory configuration because my hands are not as strong as they use to be. Did not keep up with the cost but it probably was more , but it works great and it was a lot of planning and work. Summit and you will have many sales. I bought a 1025 because of your great videos. thanks
This solution does not need a return to tank. Valve supports back pressure. So all is good.
I think a small improvement would be momentary switches that spring back to the off position on the control panel. Im excited about the product. Cant wait to order one. Thanks Tim !
They are ‘momentary’. Sorry for not being clear on that.
Would there be an ability to add potentiometers to the valves to control the current sent to the solenoids. That may be an option to control the flow speed to provide a more fine tuned adjustment.
If you have room you might put outlets for your 3 point cylinder on the bottom in stead of the top. Great solution for small tractors Thank you
Thanks for working to bring this solution to market. To me it looks like the best way to have the 3rd function for the loader.
That sort of makes me think of the loader tractor I grew up with. It was a Case 300 and there was a valve under your seat you had to open or close to change from using you loader or your three point hitch.....
Summit are great to work with. I needed 2 remotes for my snowblower and the electrical solutions seemed a lot for what I needed. I had one remote. I just needed a simple way to do a second. I spent maybe an hour on the phone with one person and then a couple emails to finalize a design with actual photos. My tractor is from 1968. The only thing I had to create was a bracket to hold the Summit product. Everything else I needed came from Summit in a "kit" set up perfectly for my application. Best of all, I can easily restore the 1968 original setup without any visible evidence. (one of the original holes holding the remote bracket had to be made larger to fit the bolt into the Summit block, but that larger hole is completely covered and does not cause any issues with the OEM bracket.) Best of all, my "solution" was under $300.
While this is a great solution for people who have modern machines, Summit can certainly help create solutions for any need.
Oh, and if you even think you might like a hydraulic top link, GET ONE. That has been a real nice addition when doing work with the land plane and offers a lot more utility to the boom pole. Even a slight change makes a huge difference. I can bet a box blade would respond even better. As for the hydraulic tilt, I can see that being useful, but not nearly as much. My tractor has a nice simple crank to alter the tilt and I don't tend to tilt very often. The only time I did was when I was cutting a new road crown. When buying your top link, pay special attention to the lengths and how much range you get. I went out with a "normal" top link and measured out several different models to see how they would work in real life. I ended up getting one that was a little shorter than most places recommended. Meaning I have more adjustment to make it shorter than longer. Why? Because I don't need much beyond level in the long direction, but making it shorter provides me a lot more lift on my Boom Pole when it is attached. Think about all your uses because $200 for a top link isn't too expensive, but you don't want to have to do it twice.
Tim, looking forward to all the new equipment that you can operate with that setup. I notice some knobs next to each remote. Do they allow you to adjust the flow rate? If so, that is a fantastic feature that you didn't discuss. On my splitter, I can't set a different flow for my snowblower chute rotation and chute angle, so I compromise. The rotation isn't quite as fast as I would like, but it made the chute angle much easier to control Being able to adjust the flow rate on each remote would help to dial in the speed things operate since all you have is on/off on your setup.
Neat Product from a great company.
This is great! I have been contemplating a solution for my older JD 755 compact tractor for rear remotes. I need to figure out if this is compatible and I'm a buyer. This is a game changer in terms of what can be added to rear attachments. Nice work guys!
I’m certain this will work for you. We just have to figure out where the power beyond ports are on your machine.
Dirt Perfect will know. He has a rear valve plumbed on his 855.
@@TractorTimewithTim Thanks Tim! I'll get it figured out. I was going to go with the extension hose route as I'm building a rear attachment that will need at least two scv.
Saaaaweet! 👍 This is the first electric over hydraulic SCV solution driven from a power beyond circuit I've ever seen. A more typical "multiplier" solution (which Summit also sells) would require an actual rear SCV valve to drive the multiplier block, with each SCV enabled by a switch -you pick which multiplier SCV circuit the factory SCV drives. One thing you didn't mention, but I assume has to be the case, is that when no electric over hydraulic SCVs are being activated, the power beyond circuit is free flowing from its source to return, just as the normal power beyond bypass hose does when the factory power beyond circuit is not connected to a back hoe.
Tim; This system looks great. I have a JD 3520 (2006 vintage) cab tractor that uses an electric solenoid diverter or to send the loader hydraulics to the rear. Then you use the loader control to function the two circuits at the back of the tractor. You have to use either the FEL or the rear circuits but they can not be used together. I am constantly flipping the electric switch to go between the functions either front or rear. I do have power beyond on the tractor. This looks like a way to achieve the rear removes and still have the loader at hand. Plus, with a top and tilt cylinders on the rear, the two extra remotes would give me the added hydraulic functions for my implements. This way I don’t sacrifice my top and tilt to get the implements powered. I just need to work up a mounting since I don’t have ROPS. Thanks, Chip
Great video as always Tim! I would be lying if I said your channel and videos did not persuade me in adding a 1025r to my fleet of green! Now with that said, I was a huge fan of your video with the 55 series tractor not too long ago. I have a 1995 John Deere 970 with 500 hours on it and I have in the last month had not one, but two diverted kits installed. One going down the loader and one out the back for a hydraulic top link. I would be absolutely thrilled to be a part of another “old vs. new” comparison on your channel to compare what an old 33hp gear drive tractor can do up against your newer equipment and attachments! Hoping to hear from you soon! Take care!
-Jim
Your creation is the next best thing to factory. I added a hydraulic top link and believe all tractors should come that way. Until they do, we have you to thank for our rear hydraulic needs.
Thanks for the kind words, Denise!
That was well thought out. I could use three. Top link snow blower spout turn. Spout flipper just for that. 4 I'm sure could find a use
Great solution and provides so much more usability. “You can’t have too many hydraulic functions” and with the power beyond that is a slick way to get more of them. From the looks of the questions and comments Tim, I’m guessing we’ll see a follow-up on this as well. Super job Tim! Blessings.
Thanks for reviewing this option! It was like trying to read hieroglyphics when I was looking at this option from my now sold 1025R. Now I've got a bigger tractor with two rear accessories, and would LOVE to have a few easy to install diverters. Also, our rear accessory ports are detent (vs spring), so we could run a rig like this.
I already had power beyond for my back hoe. I bought an open center electric over hydraulic valve from Summit, and plumbed and wired it myself. I got inexpensive, waterproof joysticks on Ebay and placed them into a box next to my seat that is accessible from the drivers seat and back hoe seat. It works great. I have a hydraulic swivel blade on the back, and added hydraulics to the thumb on my backhoe. This does everything your setup does, and I did this before your system was available. I put the bulkhead next to the fender on the right side, where the ROPS connects to the tractor. I used Discounthydraulichose for the plumbing. I just can't resist a good mod.
I have been thinking how I could use power beyond for something like that, glad to see this is out now and I’m going to get one for sure.... Thanks Tim and crew :)
Summit makes quality products! I have the first solution Tim mentioned. It uses hydraulics from the loader. The nice thing about this solution is it uses the joy stick to operate the two rear remotes. Very easy to toggle from loader to each of the rears. I am really happy with this option. But I do see some additional benefits with this new option. It offers more rear remotes and uses fewer hoses to set it up.
Do they swap well under pressure?
No. But it is not difficult to relieve pressure.
Tim,
I did the same thing with to get my 3rd function for a grapple except using the single switch. However I bought the summit manual dual valve which lets me switch from loader 3rd function to rear top link. I don’t use both at the same time after removing my backhoe. The beauty it I can use the buttons on the Summit loader handle for grapple or top link.
Simpler for now and I don’t have a lot of attachments and I wanted to keep tilt and curl active.
I also bought a valve from Summit for my third function, which I mounted up front, and adapted a joy stick controller for the loader control. Summit has been very helpful. I am now using the re-usable hydraulic fittings and buy my hose in bulk. Even with the discount, custom hoses get expensive.
You should show some of the new mini balers and cutters and rakes that they have for sub compact tractors now. They are really cool.
Yep. What manufacturers were you thinking?
@@TractorTimewithTim ibex is what comes to mind but there is others. Yanmar I think has some that I believe is made from another Japanese company they maybe a little easier to get a hold of.
great info Tim
I wish this would've been available earlier(2 years) it would have made my addition of T&T much easier
but, at least now I can point a couple of friends this way that want T&T on their 1025's
I was wondering when you were going to do it. GWT showed it a month or 2 ago but he didn't put it on a 1025r. I'm glad to see it's available now. Awesome work Tim.
Nope. GWT showed a multiplier. Different.
Great work Tim. I would love to have this on my 2038r but you was right the cost from Deere was just to much I now have to price this out for my tractor thanks for the video
I did not realize it was that difficult to get remotes on one series. That’s a good solution
The discount hoses website is definitely a good idea too because I paid twice that for the hoses I ran from my rear remotes up to the front when I first got my tractor tractor
The distribution block isn't too big, the tractor is too small. 😉
I'm going this route soon for my Ford New Holland. I really want hyd top & tilt.
For third function purposes, can you design a trigger addition that could work one of the toggles but be mounted on the loader joy stick? It'd be a nice optional addition and would keep the operator from having to go back and forth.
Love this product!
Yep. Please be patient.
@@TractorTimewithTim Any updates on this topic? Im wanting to do a 3rd functions on my Kubota L3240, but thinking I could do the rear remote kit and run one set to front and kill 2 birds with 1 stone.
Yes, we have an updated kit with replacement joystick handle. FRx-JD1.
X is number of valves.
@@TractorTimewithTim Exactly what I'm looking for! Do these kits apply to Kubota tractors as well? Just saw later in video they do apply. Thank you so much for the info!
Yes. The only difference might be the coupler type on your power beyond. Easy to change if they are not a match.
The extra remote outlet for my 2007 RTV 900 is crazy expensive. This might be a viable alternative!
Tim this a product that most sub compact owners look at now it a really thanks mines orange must lookat size and then to place it
God Bless All
PaK
Interesting design Tim. One suggestion for the "extra" electric control cable would be to put a bracket on the bottom of the control box boom. You could wind the extra cable on that bracket.
I would love to take you up on your offer, but having a little resistance from the finance committee. Getting approval for a kit, plus a 1025, trailer, and a larger truck seems to be too much.
Tim, great job on this video. You may have just answered a question I asked on another video. I was really looking for something like this. And but for the fact that I live in NC would have gladly visited you with my tractor... oh.. but, I do not qualify for your offer since I already have the power beyond. Keep up your excellent videos. Thanks.
No worries. We have an install video showing how this EVK kit goes together. They now have a FR4-JD1 which supports front 3rd function as well.
I paid around $800 for 1 double set on my JD2120 18 months ago ... (Europe) This is amazing, If I would know this then, I would bought this.
The remote control - consider a Silo lift elevator and flood gates to fill the elevator or cut it off..... Lots of cool stuff. I have a diverter in the rear and that might be a ticket for something down the way. Cool indeed.
Hi Tim an Christie thanks for the videos if you're working on a project without the right equipment you'll be getting this set up ASAP have a day love from TEXAS
We've been using hydraulic manifolds on lowriders since the 1980's. Good to see the country boys have caught up with the times. Get a manifold with dump valves and a switch box, and boom, front back side to side.. for your leveling box blade of course.
Nice solution Tim! I just purchased my B2601 this past fall and had the dealer install factory 2 rear remotes knowing id atleast use the one/two for now for top/tilt...with all the nice attachments coming out these days for our smaller tractors, this will be an easy way to get additional remotes if I ever need them. Thank you for comming up with this setup, God bless you & your family 👍🏻
Do you have a backhoe? I was wondering if the factory rear remotes fit.
I do not have a backhoe yet, but I did ask my dealer and they said the backhoe would still require a seperate setup than the rear remotes i have now. I would assume that the power beyond kit used for the backhoe could be purchased and used for this remote setup if you didn’t have the backhoe hooked up.
Yep!
Tim that is an awesome set up.
This is a great idea! I would recommend looking into replacing the electric switches with joysticks. And no, I don't mean hydraulic levers. I mean joysticks like they use in arcade cabinets. You could replace the 4 switches with 2 joysticks in the same space and keep the feeling/spirit of a stick while still using electronic controls.
I think you’ll find the switches to work quite well and logically.
@@TractorTimewithTim I don't doubt that. I'm just saying that a couple of arcade sticks will get you the same functionality as four switches for people who really feel like using a stick instead of a switch.
I’m sure you can re-wire it simply.
@@TractorTimewithTim Might be a fun project. A little expensive, though. The parts to do the electronics are cheap enough, but I don't have a tractor yet, and that's the expensive part... :)
Amazing! Super excited about this. 3rd function front and three rears for not much more than you pay for just the loader 3rd function. The best part is, direct connect to power beyond! Love it! Thank you.
Looks nice and opens up a lot of different ideas. Good job Tim !
Nice that you used my suggestion on one of you videos to manufacture my idea!
Ha! We’ve been working this idea for years.
Outstanding on the extra wire on the controller. Will work perfect for a three point log splitter.
I can see putting this on my larger tractor, a Kioti RX7320 as well. I have 3 rear remotes, but I want top link cylinder, tilt cylinder, and then a full compliment of adjustment cylinders on an Everything Attachments land shark 9ft rear blade. thats 3 more cylinders at least, even if I use a manual tail wheel. this looks pretty easy to plumb into most tractors that have at least 1 set of hydraulics. Great video Tim!
This is AWESOME. Might have to take you up on your offer, but I’m not 100% sure what I need yet.
A top and tilt would be cool for my rake or a box blade in the future. Using it for the 3rd function on the loader would be amazing too as it seems like a clean installation.
I’ve been looking at adding 4 remotes to my kubota L4740 off the PB hook up for my backhoe and I think I’ve found exactly what I’m looking for now. Thank you
Yep! Should do #he job for you!
@@TractorTimewithTim any recommendations and discount codes on where to buy cylinders for a top link and A side link ? Lol
@@brianhumphrey333 top link…ShopGreenDealer.com/ttwt use code ttwt for 5% discount.
Working on side link…not there yet.
Is it setup for a open center Hydraulic system?
@@brianhumphrey333 yes.
I believe Good Works Tractor showed this on one of his tractors a couple weeks ago...cool beans. Thanks for sharing...
Nope. He showed a diverter . This unit is only seen right here. First reveal.
It looks the same to me. Same switches and stuff. Oh well...
Have had a hydraulic top-link for over a year................saves back and best thing since sliced bread
if i lived closer i’d take you up on your offer real quick! north east PA is a bit of a haul 😂
I got the Summit Diverter kit for the 1025R. I love it and look forward to possibly adding this to my Johnny. Thanks Tim & God Bless
I should come out and have you do this, 3 pt log splitter, add angle to my back blade instead of manual adjustment, and a rear log grapple come to mind right away.
Thats a very generous offer Tim. I brought a new J.D.3025 a couple years ago, and i ordered it with two rear remotes and two detent valves. Don't remember how much I paid but it wasn't cheap I'm sure.
Nice Tim! I was watching and my wife was in the room... long story short, she not only said no, she said it three times. Dang it! I would really like this but I’ll wait for now. Good to know this solution is out there. I just wired an electric outlet to run the up/down electric actuator (eBay) on the rear snowblower chute (I have the third function and the hose extensions to run the chute left/right like you ran yours for the offset flail mower, thanks for that). This would really be handy for things like that and so many other applications.
Uhoh!
Never let them see what you're thinking beforehand, it's always easier to beg for forgiveness than to ask for permission.
With the electronic switches I wonder if you could set up duplicate switches on the rear of the tractor for say the top and tilt to be able to utilize when hooking up implements? Probably not so useful for a little 10 series but more so on larger tractors.
How about a PTO driven hydraulic pump to operate front/rear skid-steer attachments along with multiple hydraulic circuits for front and rear? May not be much help for sub-compacts but would certainly help compact tractor functionality.
Quick attach makes them. They are very expensive though around 4 k I think
@@loganmartin8613 Thanks. I looked at QuickAttach and they have models HP15, HP20, and HP24 requiring 30-43HP, 44-53 HP, and 54-75 HP for q 540 RPM PTO and they supply 15 gpm, 20 gpm, and 24 gpm respectively. Pressure is 3,000 psi for all models. Have to email for a quote--I've found several suppliers for a PTO driven hydraulic pump ($200-$400) but that isn't a complete system with mounting hardware, oil reservoir, cooler, etc. So wouldn't be surprised if price for complete system was around $4K. Oh, they call it a "Power Pack Hydraulic Power Unit".
Nice Vid Tim, I am glad my old 1026R has a horizontal PB, I can use my body weight to fasten them. The vertical ones are a bit of PITA.... Had those on my 379 Pete. The big one sold out fast....
Did I miss a video containing info on the box attached to the side of the iMatch around ~1:27? Seems like that could be super handy for chains, etc.
Yep. “All you need to know about chain”. BoltOnHooks.com use code ttwt for 5% off
Great video. I just ordered a 4 spool rear remote with a 2 button joystick control for my 3rd function for a grapple. I have a 790 I bought new back in 01 and can't wait to install.
Hopefully the FR2- kit. Did you use code ttwt? I didn’t see the order come through!
@@TractorTimewithTim I called them and spoke to David with a bunch of questions before ordering and then just plain forgot to use your code. Is it too late? Just ordered yesterday.
Call em back.
@@TractorTimewithTim Hi Tim just an FYI, I called them back and received my discount and they are giving you the credit for it. They were very helpful and I told them that it was your videos that helped me find them. Again thanks for your content!
Thanks!
Thanks for going through the this process. I am adding a 4 spool front and rear for a front grappler and a stump grinder in the rear. I have a 1070 with JD power beyond for my backhoe. You make it look simple. I would like to keep all spools active front and rear i need to find source and return and what fittings I need.
This kit just plugs right in. All fittings, adapters included. They have a version with front and rear, and replacement joystick handle.
Just placed my order for the power beyond and the 3 spool kit from Summit! So excited!
Good morning Tim. I have been waiting for this option. I think this is a great option. Couple things. The hoses look a little short. It looked to me that if you come straight down off the valve block then down along the bottom side of the lower bar over the the power beyond that would be a better route then the diagonal path it showed on this video. I also have two 2014 1025r one with and one with out power beyond we could put it on both of them. I read a comment about having a standard length wire and then selling an extension. That sounds like a good idea.
Thanks.
Great idea, Tim. There are times I wanted rear remotes on my little GC1710 Massey but thought it was going to be too difficult. Your system looks like a game changer. Thanks for the video and wishing you and family well. 👍🏽🙂 Excuse my ignorance, but I had to look up the acronym SCV (Selective Control Valve) which I think pressures the remote and designates how much flow goes to a particular line.
I have a 1723 2022 and am very interested
You have a leak! 18:13 the top solenoid drips....
but that whole system is pretty damn nice and at a nice price too boot.
I've got an 8 port block in a hydraulic boat trailer that costs thousands just for that piece.
Shh! Stop looking so closely! After 5-6 times off and on with the valves, I'm having trouble getting the top one sealed. The lower 3 are fine.
Looks like you and summit did a great job. One sujestion I have is to make an add on kit that could be purchased. The rugged kit would include a shield (cover) for the wires and solenoids on the valve body, possibly abrasion resistant wire loom, and if the connectors are not already weather pack that could be a good option too. Looks like a very clean and well thought out package. 👍
I am excited to see how convenient you can make this to run a grapple. Hard to spend $1,000 on this for the rear and another $700+ for the front diverter. Would be great to use this set up to run some hoses to the front with some sort of nice switch on the loader. I know you have something planned.
Q? Does deere not offer rear hydraulics at all on that tractor? Never knew that.
They offer one rear scv, but not if you choose power beyond. It is one or the other.
Do you know if factory power beyond has 1/2” pioneer on bx?
1023e Yes the kit for rear scv blocks you out of power beyond deere kit. But you can always make your own power beyond. Fittings are O ring face seal. I need these extra outlets for my 4720 so I can run the stump grider with top and tilt also working.
@@TractorTimewithTim not sure on size.
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I've worked with pneumatics and hydraulic systems. I like what your doing here. But want to let you know that wear ever you can use a 90 degree hose end instead of a 90 degree fitting you'll reduce flow restrictions and heat. Especially those double 90s at the tractor rear remote. Looks like a great product.
Doubt it will matter much in this case. Thanks for the feedback.
I have to look my manual if I can installed some like that,because when using the post driver I have to someone inside holding the hydraulic lever so I can use the post driver so I can do it myself.Great video thank you for sharing
Nice work Tim!!! I'd love to see more videos on how this product pans out and evolves!
Coming this Wednesday morning!
So stoked to see this finally out. I messaged you on GTT about doing the setup on mine.
This is so what I am looking for! I have a branson 2400h with the backhoe setup the same as the 1025R. I'm gonna order the 2 spool and do a hydro rear top link and extend two lines for a grapple. Maye summit can come up with a way to extend one of the switches to the loader stick to control a set of valves for said grapple.
That is an awesome solution. I commend you for coming up with it.
Now I gotta go see if I can find a power beyond kit for my BX
Great idea. This video answers a questions for me. Thanks Tim for a very educational video.
Nice job on the video Tim! Appreciate your research and product knowledge that you continually share with us on this channel.
Looks awesome! I got the "factory installed" dual remotes on my b2650.... looks like an after thought on their part. I would update to this in a heartbeat!
I chose the factory/dealer installed dual remotes on my LX3310.
It looks like you are about 2.5 hours away but I would still come for the install video we can do a top and tilt while I'm there for another video ..I have a 2021 1025r with no power beyond ..( its because of your videos I bought one )..
Thanks for all the debt,lol..
Congratulations. We already had a couple of winners for the free install. Sorry.
Hi Tim, i rarely agree with you hahaha but this time yeah i agree, 3 years ago i did figured out myself this and choosing a good enough valve block, valves, etc... took me months... just for the joystick, (because i added a 3rd function while i was at it...) , its crazy tough to find one cheap enough for us Residential customer. 1000$ for the 4 rear remotes isnt expensive. looking forward for your installation video, its clearly lacking on youtube!! i had to do homework and learn how hydraulics works,, 1000$ is cheap to skip this!
I would mount the remotes under the left side set of lights that way they are a little better out of the way
You are welcome to mount it however you want :-)
I’m purchasing a new 1025R from AHW. My plan was to install the JD third function kit, BLV11143, as I like the Deere joystick control for the third function. I was also going to also install the JD third SCV kit for rear hydraulics. I like this idea better due to the increased number of outlets. I don’t think I’m too far from you as I’m in east central Illinois. Let me know, I’m willing😀
I build machinery which uses like valve configurations thank you for working with Summit to figure out the small tractor solution. Where did you get the light protection hard ware that is on your ROPs?
light protection is a Deere accessory. greenpartstore.com use code TTWT for free shipping.
I liked the video before it even started to play. Always quality content.
Thanks Lee!
Nice set up. Good video Tim
Instablaster.
I know I have a bigger than compact tractor...but I have 3 sets on the rear and I'm cobbling together parts to have a third function fer the loader......have snow this year it will be nice to have hydraulic angle on my snow plow
Got mine installed yesterday! Can’t wait to see your video
Morning Tim. Thanks for sharing this with us. Interesting solution. Have a great week!
Thanks for watching, GP!