What If Everything Went PERFECT For Bulgaria?
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What if everything went PERFECT For Bulgaria?
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As a Bulgarian, the moment you said rename instanbul to carigrad I shed a tear. Great video mate!
Yes but why would bulgaria even have the city. Its historically Greek.
@@TheHunterOfYharnam By that time, it was majority Turkish, even though there'd be a small Greek minority, but that's really it.
@@TheHunterOfYharnam Yes, absolutely true. I'm just being overly patriotic for the memes.
@@YaBoiBaxter2024 I know, but demographics can change again, especially back then. Population exchange could fully make it Greek if you had to change 1 or 2 things after ww1. I mainly said that because noone can claim the city of Constantinople besides Greece, since it is a Greek region/city.
@@TheHunterOfYharnam I think most importantly what bulgaria would do with a city as populated as there are bulgarians, would the expell them making the citie's industry and economic potencial useless? Could they even expel people from a city that is as populated as their own country? The same things goes for all powers that could have taken the city after the war.
I could imagine a scenario where Constaninople would get independence as a free city, but under Bulgarian supervision - kinda like Danzig and Poland
Yeah
Thanks for 1 like
I can only see browshirts marching to Ankara in this scenario haha
Maybe joint Bulgarian greek protection
And then WW2 in this universe starts with the Turkish Empire demanding Constantinople
Only OGs remember when this title said "United States" rather than "Bulgaria".
Hahahaha i also saw this
United States of Bulgaria
yes
I missed it :(
i had to do a double take for a second
As a bulgarian I think the best scenario for us would be to never lose to the ottomans and byzantines in the first place and keep and expand further the borders which Simeon the Great of Bulgaria has established.
I think instead of expanding, consolidation of power in northern Bulgaria and statebuilding, infrastructural development, etc. would have been enough.
Maybe an attempt to colonize Egypt or something, too, idk.
But then again it would not be Bulgaria as we know it today. It will be mish mash of all Central Balkan States cultures under bulgarian banner.
@@user-qv4fg8wb5c Incorrect, if we remained the state building power on the Balkans, these cultures wouldn't exist. They would've been deeply incorporated within our nation to the point of indistinguishably, creating a local superstate.
Our first mistake was under Tervel. We had to support the Rashiddun Caliphate of conquering Tsarigrad. At the point of full exhaustion right after the Caliphate would've destroyed the Byzantines, we destroy the Caliphate army conquering Tsarigrad and opening the south for expansion as well as securing the south and south-east.
The better option would have been to stay north of the Danube.
Huge love to Bulgaria from Syria 🇸🇾❤️🇧🇬
For a second I thought this said Serbia and I legitimately did a double take to read that correctly
@@aithrasherboi No disrespect intended, but I believe we prefer Serbians over literally anyone in the middle east.
@@aithrasherboi
Only a strong Balkan Union can guarantee the real survival of Bulgaria and everyone in the region.
All Balkan peoples have a common root. So yes, despite the problems in Macedonia, Serbs are from the Balkans.
In the future, there will be a Balkan Union. This will be the right union for Bulgaria and for all the Balkan nations.
Thank you 🇧🇬❤️🇸🇾
Thank you!
It's kinda funny how a nation can fight war with a solid pretext, win, and sign a treaty, but then other powers who had nothing to do with the outcome can just swoop to go "nah, bruh" and axe the treaty
Welcome to 19th century Europe.
Bulgaria would be nothing more than a Russian puppet had this been accomplished, and it was all part of the fragile balance of power in europe.
The San Stefano Treaty was according to the ethnic and church boundaries recognized by the Sultan and the Russian Emperor. Bulgaria at that time meant Mysia, Thrace and Macedonia united. Many Bulgarians still live in the territories.
Only 3500 Bugarians live in Macedonia. What are you talking about?
@@DacLMK This is not true, there are hundreds of thousands of Macedonians who come to Bulgaria and declare themselves Bulgarians, many of them also have Bulgarian passports.
@@-kr8206 They use that loophole to go to work in the EU. It doesn't prove that they're Bulgarian. If Serbia was in the EU, it would've been the same. Plus with Germany recebtly dropping the requirements for work, the Bulgarian passports issued to Macedonians will start to drop significantly.
@@DacLMK This is not true, I go to Macedonia to visit these Bulgarians, there are many Bulgarians even if they do not declare it publicly, the real Macedonian Bulgarians are great patriots, they listen to real Bulgarian music, not turbo gypsy folk, they read Bulgarian poets and writers. they are true patriots.
@@-kr8206 Bro there are so many Turks in east rumelia and north bulgaira. More than 3500. Most of the population they were forced to migrate and assimilated (in the 90's) better right after the balkan wars, you oppressed thousands of Turks but did not look at the Europeans but whenever you revolted the Turks massacred the innocents. So give East Rumelia, Salonica, Macedonia, Ionia and other cities.
As a Bulgarian, this is beautiful
Aa a Bulgarian, you've earned yourself a can of our yogurt, and a banitsa, (obviously complimented with some rakia) for this video. :)
Nooo, not the rakia with the yoghurt, that sounds vicious 😂
It's only bad, the first time you try it 😁
Nah gimmie the rakia
Also lutenica
I am bulgarian. Thank you for the video about our small and beautiful country.
It's bigger than the whole Benelux and almost as big as England. It's more Bulgarians that we need.
small????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
We should really stop introducing ourselves as a small country. We are a mid-sized country at worst by both population and size.
@@plamenpetrov2014 Didn't we lose like 1.5 million in a span of a few years
If you compare to big countries like USA , Russia, China, Brazil, India or others yes we are smaller than them, but we are bigger than advanced countries like Switzerland, Belgium, Portugal , Nederland, Austria, South Korea and many others. So we are midsize country.
The funny part about the Serbian and Greek claims over the territory of San Stefano Bulgaria are actually laughable by modern standards, since what they claimed are historical lands that they've ruled for X number of time. While the reality of the situation is that San Stefano Bulgaria was following the area of the Bulgarian Exarchate, and even San Stefano Bulgaria did not cover all of the regions with Bulgarian majority, lol. Bulgarian history is not tragic, but it is just the sad reality that the strong oppose the weak, as we can see from the Great Powers at the time. They were scared of Russia, so they made a scrapegoat out of Bulgaria x) Leaving millions of ethnic Bulgarians outside the borders of their country. The greed for power really did a number here.
Treaty of Berlin really was a shame. France and Britain just restored Ottoman empire as it was, leaving millions of Christians as slaves...
denmark actually got to profit from the conflict bethween great powers (Prussia and Austria over Schleswig-Holstein)@Anders-Thygesen
Remember kids! Macedonia is Bulgaria! 💪🇧🇬
But you didn't get it, and Macedonia hates you.
why dont yall give them citizenship then
@@MalikMalikin-lb6tk Oh believe me, they're trying with the loophole in their passports, so they can claim a lot of Bulgarians live in Macedonia.
@@DacLMK Why are you writing as if that is a bad thing? Bulgaria is an eu country. They are probably richer than you. Id be glad if i were you.
@@MalikMalikin-lb6tk Let me explain. They have a loophole in their passport system so that Macedonians who can claim that they have a Bulgarian relative (be a grandparent or a great grandparent), can apply for a Bulgarian passport. But they have to write there that they're Bulgarians as well. Today over 200 000 Macedonians have done this, and majority have done it so they can go and work in a Western EU nation (Germany, Italy, Austria, France, ...) without applying for a visa with their original Macedonian passport. That's good and all, but the problem is that Bulgaria can use that loophole to proof that so and so number of Bulgarians live in Macedonia, aka that Macedonia is populated by Bulgarians. See the problem? Who would want to give up their nationality just so they can move and make more money? Unfortunately when we're so f-ed up, we have to do stuff at the expense of our national pride just to survive. And I see this as a national tragedy and further destruction of my beloved country.
Can you do a what if everything went perfect for Weimar Republic Germany? Feels like scenarios like these would be perfect for exploring how failed states could've turned their fortunes around.
Stresemann never has health issues and instead becomes a long lived Bismarck like figure for the Weimar republic
or just germany in general, start in 1848
@@clouds-rb9xt He has already made one about that.
He's already made a video for Imperial Germany, but it would be interesting to see an 1848 Revolutionary Germany
Ah yes, the United States of Bulgaria
as how hilarious and funny sounds is true but politicians of the goverment are selfish
"if the usa is so great, how come there is no usb?!"
Funny thing is that Hitler thought highly of Bulgarians, he didn't believe they were part of the slavic world and therefore think actually quite highly of them.
Bulgaria was/is one of the biggest net exporters of food. Germany was/is the biggest importer of food in Europe. For example Bulgaria is exporter N2 in Europe for wheat export and N2 in the world in export of sunfower seeds.
Hitler argued that they were more Turkish than anything Slavic. What a lunatic.
@@ruin8891 Absolutely. Which for me is honestly a bigger insult than being "inferior slavs" lmao.
Fun fact: Hitler was thinking this about Serbs as well, until they denied him passage to Greece, then he changed it to "they are not better than gypsies and jews"...
@@vanpet1993 He made it up as he went along.
Bulgaria is an interesting one. They were virtually Germany’s only ally in WW1.
Austria-Hungary and the Ottomans were also other allies of Germany. Albeit Germany dwarfed them all at the time in power.
Very true, the Bulgarians were actually one of, if not the the most successful state in WW1 in terms of battles. Even at the end of the war newspapers were titled "Lost, without being beaten".
@@its_dey_mate We bulgarians say about Germany and the world wars "We won their battles, they lost our wars".
Bulgaria was always on the wrong side of history. Always with nazis
@@plamenovcharovBack then in world wars bulgarian warriors didnt know what is fear so yes we were wining battles but lost wqrs cause we been trapped into fake hopes
I think “What if Everything Went PERFECT for Spain” would be interesting since Spain lost so much of its power throughout history.
It would probably have domination over much of the Americans Italy the low countries and the mediterranean
War of the Spanish Succession
The war for Dutch independence was the first stepping stone for Spanish empire to collapse since it was the first Spanish colony to declare independence from Spain succesfully
Latin America might be full of Wealthy High-Income Spanish-speaking Countries today, but oh well sadly that didn't happen sadly 😢 😞 😕 😔
@@shzarmai:/
“ Never lost a single battle, but always defeated “ yep that us Bulgarians
What if everything went perfectly for Greece after winning the war for independence?
It could begin with Leopold I of Belgium accepting the greek throne... And if not that could be an interesting scenario of itself.
Why would that help exactly
@@user-pn7jz9vr2z With Leopold's personal charisma, intellect, diplomatic skills and relationships with abroad, he would manage to secure a large loan for the Greek state to give it a head start. Unlike Otto, he was not opposed to a democratic constitution, although he would write it so that the monarch still had significant authority in politics, similar to the OTL Belgian constitution. Further, due to his lack of opposition to industrialization and modernization, Greece would start to modernize earlier on and becomes a much stronger and more stable country than in OTL.
@@danielsantiagourtado3430if things went perfect for Greece, kapodistrias would have stabilized the country as a republic
@@thebalkanhistorian.3205 Always a monarchist at hearth to be honest here, i would love to See the Purple bizantine Eagle Rise again in this scenario
Nice idea 👍
This is very very very very very very very very well made and thought through. Great job!
Im glad that someone noticed us 😅
This video is so nice to see about how things couldve turned out for us, but i think one of the major problems Bulgaria had from where it all went down hill was with the death of our Tsar (King) Simeon. We were at our peak then, and if we stayed like that For centuries to come, many things couldve changed. Firstly the ottoman war wouldve been waaaay more if not surelly winable, and the following ww1 and ww2 couldve ended well For us if we still ended up uniting with the germans and the italians, resaulting to potentionally expanding more to the east and central europe.
It would be really interesting for Italy because of its chaotic times during unification and world wars period
You should definitely continue this series. An ottoman episode would be especially cool since there are so many points in ottoman history where shit just went really wrong.
yes i agree the amount of times the ottomans were in sniffing distance of Europe proper is too many to count
@@zaidb9468Sniffing distance?
They had Vienna by the balls at one point. They were *in* Europe for a good couple centuries
Love all of the details you put in your work, it is always a big pleasure to hear/see your videos.
Just please don’t stop making videos, those are amazing !!
Once you get to Greece, PLEASE bring up the possibility of Byron becoming king since that would be pretty funny.
He'd be the greenest king Greece ever had:
There is pleasure in the pathless woods, /
there is rapture in the lonely shore, /
there is society where none intrudes, /
by the deep sea, and music in its roar; /
I love not Man the less, but Nature more.
This video was actually really well done, It wasn't an unrealistic scenario where Bulgaria recreates Byzantium or something such as that which I've seen be done in other alt scenarios. Instead this was a simple scenario where Bulgaria isn't totally screwed over in a lot of scenarios. Must say though I think the best case scenario for the Second Balkan War was not starting it at all really, the war was a major blunder on the Bulgarian side and honestly if Tsar Ferdinand didn't declare that war he would probably be remembered as one of the better Tsars of Bulgarian history. There's also the Macedonia issue which while many Macedonians did call themselves Bulgarians in the past, it changed due to a large passage of time and overall the identity slowly drifting while it being helped by things such as the Serbian rulership over it and other such (also to clarify, no I am not saying Macedonians are an artificial identity or anything like that or that they were ''invented'' overnight, such claims are ridiculous). Also the question over Constantinople was addressed well, realistically Bulgaria had a very low chance to get it but at the end this is if everything went perfect for Bulgaria so that and the Macedonia thing are both excusable in the end.
Lastly I am very glad you made a video on my country as we don't really get a lot of those done on us, yet this one was of such high quality while not being either biased for or against us which is something I very much like about your channel in general. Would also be cool if you could make a video on Bulgaria in medieval times but that's entirely up to you, I just think there's a bunch of things you could do with that era as it's quite a long and interesting time period overall. All in all, great channel and great content, exactly what I subbed for.
Моя най добър сценарий е също свързан с това да не почваме втората балканска война. Неутралитет през първата световна би бил полезен щото може да се търгува и икономиката да расте докато на всички дето воюват им става зле. Няма нищо да се похаби в един такъв неутралитет както всъщност е станало. Толкова войници се вдигнали и накрая загуба на всичко и печалба на нищо. Вярно е да се каже че с Антантата не може да се спечели много и Цариград е само в главите на глупавите но не би било лошо ако може да се влезе и да го разорим. За държава от селяни тоз град би донесъл прилично богатство. После който го вземе все тая. Сърбите от зор след година две на войната че дадат там до Охрид нещо. Разбира се при приключване на войната ще е добре да си станем добри съюзници с някой от съседите. Тез Сърби и Румънци така хубаво го награждават през ПСВ че е безобразие. Сърбия реално не успява да направи важни неща отвъд първата година а Румъния пада лесно. Та ако може в такъв сценарий да не им се създават мини империи. То като гледа човек реалността на нас за къв ташак ни трябват победители А&У и Османска империя? Само липсва Османците да задържат близкия изток и до дойде времето на петрола. Тогава вече сме цъфнали и вързали.
Nice resume !
Only if you , The New Bulgarian can start once and forever using more remarks that not Old Macedonian have disapiared all of them or were eaten by lions !
Macedonians were not Proto Balkan Bulgar
in the territory Macedonia .
We all know where Old Bulgaria is .
Macedonian state of today is verified in UN Asembly of States which means that it is taken in consideration that Macedonians were still around during linden Uprising of 1903 because were not included in Bulgarian uprising of 1876 .
You , the former Macedonians and Traceans , have the destiny to have imported name of a country called Bulgaria because you didn't change it , and had your own Bulgarian uprising .
Nothing unusual !
Bad or good destiny is your destiny !
Just move on , and make efforts two nations Bulgarian and Macedonian of today , to be more close and start thinking as civilised Europeans .
For better Europe !
Macedonians are absolutely an artificial identity imposed by the communists in the face of Stalin and Tito with the goal for a quick solving of the Macedonian question. Not to mention the Serbian persecution of Bulgarian activists, teachers and priests in Macedonia between World War I and World War II.
The russians wanted Bulgaria, because they wanted its legacy, our legacy, which was the language, the script, the faith. The ethnic russians are Bulgarized Scandinavians and the russian state was built on Bulgarian foundations. But of course a huge empire cannot pay tribute to a small Balkan country ruled 500 years by Ottomans, no matter what history says. So the easiest way was to incorporate it into its own empire, which was the purpose of the liberation of Bulgaria. A strong independent Bulgarian state was never a desired outcome by the russians. Today's Bulgarians are unfortunatelly too naive to understand this. They prefer fairy tales of pan-slavism and orthodox brotherhood, a total bs.
But modern Macedonians are an artificial identity. The hole idea of it was made by the communist to make a weaker Bulgaria.
As I Bulgarian I am sad at how many errors our rulers made historically and how much "the great powers" fucked us over. However, we are where we are.
As a Bulgarian I like that someone knows our history
Actually only the Preliminary San Stefano Treaty included those massive territorial gains for Bulgaria. Count Ignatiev himself, in his diaries, admits that it's just a ruse that would inevitably make Russia look like the good guy and the "collective West" like the bad guy for not agreeing to such outrageous terms.
My favourite Balkan nation, The United States of America
lmao
The USA does frankly feel like a Balkan nation at this point, thanks to their dangerously bitter internal divisions and the desire for a known populist who'd rather align with Russia against the west.
I'm gonna say it right here: The USA is a nuclear Serbia and Britain was stupid to harm their relations with mainland Europe when _that_ thing is their preferred choice.
Your alternative history vids are by far the best out there, well done!
Great video ! I hope to see a "What if everything went PERFECT for Belgium" as we are often not doing great in alternate history scenarios
Bulgaria is a nice and beautiful place!
Idk why but i’ve always had a niche interest in Bulgaria from 1870-1950 so this is a very good video.
You’ve earned yourself a new subscriber! Would love to see more videos like this and can’t wait to watch more.
Thank you for doing a video on this interesting topic. I hope you will continue with really out there scenarios like this one. Maybe a video on what if everything went perfect for Denmark.
thank you for making this!
As a bulgarian i want to say this video
Is very good
These are some great videos! I would be interested in seeing one done with Japan
i love this channel so much, you're doing great!
The best outcome for Bulgaria after the WWII would have been to keep the Aegean coast that it had. Bulgaria deserves to have a piece of that coast with at least one big port, possibly Xanthi or Aleksandrupolis.
I'm Bulgarian, and I've in Alexandropoli yesterday. It was absolutely beautiful
@@DannyFromBG is the city bilingual now? How many Bulgarians live in it?
@@Christina.A. also Plovdiv and Varna were always Hellenic, but today they are Bulgarian. When the Slavs settled on the Aegean Sea, they populated the coastal cities and villages. Many of them were Slavic majority till recent history. The area between Xanthi and Alexandrupolis is the most Slavic populated coastal area.
@@Christina.A. is that so…? Hmm, interesting concept of the Greek history school curriculum…and obviously SO brainwashing!!!
@@Christina.A. dear Christina, the Pomaks are Islamize Slavs (Bulgarians), and they speak Bulgarian dialect. Yes, they are one example of the Slavs exiting on the Aegean Sea. Maybe not much, but a coastline of at least 20 km east of Xanthi. I didn’t want to mention, but what about the other examples of Slavs and Slavic areas in Greece? How about the cities and villages in western Macedonia? Even there there is a tiny coastal area where Slavic villages are on the coast, that’s the area west of Thessaloniki in about 10 km. Historically, the Slavs were a big, maybe dominant element of the population in Macedonia and western Thrace. It all changed after the fascist junta, helped by USA came into power in Greece in 1948. If the history went in a different way, let’s say if the Greek and Slavic Partisans won in WW2, Greece would surely have been a socialist federation, like Yugoslavia, with many republics, one of which would have been probably Macedonia with a dominant Slavic population, and a considerate coastline, which might have been from Paralia to Kavala, with exclusion of Thessaloniki as a neutral city, like Trieste was. That was how Tito and the Socialist movement in Yugoslavia and Greece were planning, but the USA shitted the plan. Anyway, in order to be fair to your neighbours , the Slavs, who historically populated a big part of Northern Greece, you should be ok if a small part of the Aegean coast belongs to them. You already have 1000s of km of coast, it won’t ruin your coastline if a small portion of the eastern most Thrace is given to the Slavs, i.E. Bulgarians. Kali nichta and Andio!
Similar video about Poland would be great
There is a video by whatifalthis about what if Poland was a superpower
Yes Poland shall have their revenge against Germany and Russia
@@justsomeguywholikeshentai1939 whatifalthist sucks
Bulgaria never fought for territory, but the people, who lived on these territories. There would never be macedonians as a nation, because in our timeline the macedonian nation was created in the 50s by the Comintern und Tito
Another great one! Keep up with this series!
Another great video
Loving this series. Maybe the Netherlands or the uk next? :)
Edit: i love especially the realistic part. Still positive but somewhat realistic
This was the dream of her ancestors (the national ideal ). They fight many wars bravely , included my great-grandfather in the Battle of Odrin but our ,,allies '' and the great powers and the poor diplomacy painted our future...Thank you for this video!
You mean tainted :P
Back then our army fought like lions and didn't have fear
Thanks for the video!
Nice video man greetings from Bulgaria 🇧🇬
As a Bulgarian, first this territory was not selected by a luck :) And also as a Bulgarian, no we were not loosing most of our wars on balkans we won them :) Most of the epic fights in balkans and europe was made by bulgarians :)
Love to Bulgaria from Serbia, awesomely made video you just made me love history even more thank you alot for these videos, I enjoy them all the time.
I got one idea for you by the way:
"What if Serbia won the battle of Maritsa 1371."
Some context, basically Serbs outnumbered the Ottomans but still lost due to the geographical advantage for the Ottomans and being surrounded, some say this battle was the reason why Ottomans were in Europe for 400 years and how would Serbia continue whilst being independent, would Hungary do something and how would that change the Ottoman state?
Поздрав, брате!🇧🇬❤️☦️🇷🇸
Love to Serbia from Bulgaria lol
I suggest the ottomans wouldnt be driven out of europe, but instead the serb, bulgarian and the east roman tzardoms would still use them as mercenaries one against the other and would inevitably fall under ottoman rule, but before that the hungarians would start raiding first the serbs and then us bulgarians and would weaken us even more. But the ottomans would never cross the stara planina/ danube region, as they would have a lot of problems at their eastern border. Pozdravi brat!
Love to Serbia from Bulgaria
Great video, thank you !
Ive played a lot of Hoi4 Bulgaria recently so im more than happy to see this
I love this series and I would love if you did poland next.
Thank you, Possible History, it was amazing, 8,5/10.
Maybe not the most fleshed out video, but a video about Bulgaria nonetheless!!!
Finally, I have been waiting for a alt history on Bulgaria.
Honestly, the biggest note for me about post independence Bulgaria was that they were the only axis power to gain land after the war.
My favorite balkan country 🇺🇲❤🇧🇬
This was great video, I really like this series, can you do Georgia next?
Great video!
Do one for Georgia if you can, Georgia was quite strong before the Mongols but in the modern times to say the least it isn't going well
Russian separatist time
Russians are not Mongols
Georgia never was a country actually
@@galindimitrov8720 i mean its not super prosperous like adjoining states like Texas, but it still can be an interesting idea
Scenario idea: What if the Ottoman empire won the 1st Balkan War?
Also Kinda unrealistic
i love this series!
please make this a series, its really intreaging
What if everything went perfectly for austria after Franz Joseph's ascension in 1848?
Huge Austrian/Habsburg fan!😊😊😊❤❤❤
As a bulgarian you really don't know enough of our history
He did a decent job honestly.
Най-сетне някой да му го каже. Само факта,че си въобразява че централните сили биха ни помогнали по някакъв начин в някаква вселена на Марвъл,говори достатъчно. Все едно Англия не е била съюзник на османците и не се е борила да останем роби,нека пропуснем този факт ? А че централните сили НИКОГА в историята си не са помогнали на НИТО ЕДНА ДЪРЖАВА нито да стане по-силна,нито по-голяма ? Човека разбира от история,колкото аз от ядрена физика и от поддръжка на космически станции.
Greetings from Builgaria! Awesome video!
I will patiently wait until you do a video about Romania too!
Could you do a video on how Italy could unite during the Renaissance please?
I've been watching the Italian Wars series on the Pike & Shot Channel and started to wonder if maybe the Sforzas or the Venetians could have united northern Italy at least if things had gone a little different.
If the Venetians decisively defeated the French army of the first invasion for example.
I think an interesting direction you could've taken this, and maybe could take a future video for everything right for *both* Romania and Bulgaria, would be going with one of the possible scenarios for Romania and Bulgaria unifying after the Russo-Ottoman war of 1877. Most likely of them, I think, being the very first right after the war, of Carol I being elected in Bulgaria.
At that point in time, Bulgaria had just gained independence and was looking for a monarch, and Carol I just so happened to have quite a decent amount of clout after the war, having just made Romania independent and proven himself as a very capable war leader, helping directly in the liberation of Bulgaria, and the idea even seems to have had support from the British, in order to counter russian influence in the area. Perhaps in another timeline, with Britain supporting this union more directly, and perhaps with another power like France or Germany (France already had a lot of influence among the romanian elite of the time, which were very much so francophiles, and Carol I belonged to a sub-branch of the Hohenzollerns), the bulgarians would be willing to entertain the idea in spite of Russian and Austro-Hungarian opposition to a Romanian-Bulgarian Union. Most likely with some concessions on the part of Carol I as well, both territorially and, more importantly, politically, to assure the bulgarians of his trustworthiness and that he would protect their interests as well.
With just this, you could already start seeing some major differences, as the British and French would likely trust this Romanian-Bulgarian Union under Carol I much more than they did Bulgaria to not just simply extend Russian influence into the balkans, which would leave them more lenient on how much Bulgaria needs to be cut down.
As an addition, Bulgarians and Romanians are so close culturally that if it wasn't for the language difference, you would confuse us non-stop.
Bulgarians and Romanians were one country during the first Bulgarian empire, as a Bulgarian I consider Romanians to be extremely close and brotherly people. There have been many ideas and people's wishes for a Balkan Federation Bulgaria-Serbia-Romania-Greece, but the great powers would never support such a thing
Come on, man. All repect to Romania, my grandma was born there and speaks the language, but you understand well that we are totally, totally different in every possible way. The only thing common is the faith.
@@kamenbergdifferent in what regards? Ethnically we are for sure related, dacian, romans, slavs, cumans...
Languages are different, but they do share some common things, like the definitive article at end of the noun
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We are diferent enought for them to depopulate Southern Dobrudja and try to kill of anyting bulgarian.
Enought so they whanted to take big chunks of the coutry afther the first balkan war. Carols son hated the Bulgarians and was one of the big reasons why the 2nd balkan war started.
Great video! Can you please do the same with Italy? I feel like there is alot of potential there!
Finally. A good video from this guy.
Many empires fought and conquered Bulgaria.. But all these empires are long gone.. yet Bulgaria still exist :D.
I really love how you are confident in these. Yeah of course we don't know for sure, it is alternate history. But going down the what if and the bramches anyway because it is more interesting that way is exactly what I've been wanting in these types of videos.
As for this one, since Constantinople/whatever it is called now will be not in Turkey's hands, would Turkey not be in NATO? Would their EU application not be taken seriously at all? How much would the city change?
first comment, and good video! keep up the great work, hope to see you with 500k subscribersin the future!
Really appreciate that someone knows about the history of our small but centuries-old country!
As a Bulgarian, I would say that over time, even since we have arrived on the Balkans in 680, our dearest dream was the occupation of Constantinopile and many time we have been so close, but as you can see, that have never happened. Also no one would be happy to see that small Bulgaria to have control over the old capital of East Roman Empire.
The main problem in our nation is that we were not (and we still are not) greatful of what we have and don't appreciate it. If we overcame this negative part of ourselves and didn't mind our differences we would be as we were in the time of Tsar Simeon and Tsar Ivan Alexander.
Do what if everything went perfect for austrian empire next
No Austria Hungary I guess
@@casualjoe1264 and a united Germany under Austria/diarchy with prussia
@Karl Von Lytovski true, United Germany under austria might be a good thing
Do one about What If Everything Went PERFECT For Mexico it should be pretty interesting
Interesting scenario!
Im loving these new series but you messed up the name man! Is US instead of bulgaria😅😅😅😅
bulgaria deserved more tbh
I agree
Do one for Portugal!! And don't forget to give us Galicia!
very nice concept of video
You should do one of these for Scotland 🏴. Great vid btw!
You should do this for either France (Napoleonic France specifically) or the Kingdom of Italy (from unification to the late 1900s)
Can you do this for the netherlands. Like: what if the netherlands didn't lose kaap kolonie and if they gain more in the berlin conference and if belgium didn't broke away
W idea! Also, in English it's Cape Colony, not Kaap Kolonie (Kaap Kolonie is the Dutch name for it.)
@NeoPolish I know but I wanted to say the original name
Me being a Bulgarian makes me very happy that there's at least one person to care about Bulgaria. Amazing video btw
Millions care about Bulgaria what do you mean ???
Good video! I’d love if you did a what if alexsander lived longer or what if Rome had survived
Me who is Bulgarian lmao....MAN I LOVE YOU!
Hello PH, I love this concept, could you please consider it with Mexico? Thank you, much love.
After we all know that Bulgaria is the oldest country in Europe, which according to many historians is the country that is the basis of human civilization. Which nation is the heir of the ancient Thracians, which has already been proven after the latest genetic studies. A people gave the world the most accurate ancient calendar recognized by UNESCO. For which scientists mentioned that it took 70,000 years of observing the night sky to create this calendar. Well, I think that this people really deserves a better future.
Looking forward to seeing what if everything went perfect for Romania. If you do a video like that, please start earlier, before the hunnic migration period. Cheers!
Didnt everything kinda go prefect for them, they took all the land outside of Moldova that they whanted.
They even had the option to keep South Dobrudja till this day, but gave it back to Bulgaria in ww2.
United States in the balkans?
Yeah bro, learn your geography
USB === ^^
I love it :)
I think for the first world war we should remember that the Bulgarian tsar is still of german descent so it's very likely he goes with germany. Otherwise great video!
Edit: Also if Bulgaria gets near Constantinople, then maybe there's a world where before WW2 there's an alliance between Greece and Bulgaria against Turkey, that gives Greece Turkey's western coast and Bulgaria - Constantinople.
Germany really didnt like Bulgaria afther the balkan wars. They where only convinced to get Bulgaria in the alliance because of Austria and the need to have a direct link to Turkey.
honestly, love this video, except there can be a few additions during World War 2:
1. Bulgarian resistance to occupation would probably be extremely effective. This is due to German logistics being very overstretched trying to get there, as you either have to take a super long route through Slovakia, Hungary, and Romania, before having to cross the Danube river, OR go through Yugoslavia which is also currently resisting you very effectively. Not to mention, all this is happening through a lot of mountains which makes it even worse. It is not out of the question that Bulgaria liberates itself for the most part after Italy collapses, like how Yugoslavia did. This, combined with the fact that the Bosphorous now accidentally fell under German control, that Britain and the USSR both push for a Balkan and Italian front to be opened up before a Western Front is (in the real world, only Britain was enthusiastic about such plans).
This means that not only is a German occupation already guaranteed to be difficult in the Balkans, but also that when the cookie crumbles, it will crumble very fast and an entire new front will be opened, probably by late 1943 at the latest.
2. Because of the aforementioned reasons about the Bosphorous, Britain might (and I do mean might as it might not be that feasible) just snub the USSR and tell them that Bulgaria is a no-go for them during the Percentages Agreement (maybe Stalin is compensated in some other way, poor Poland and Romania)
you should totally do this with romania too
Five hundred years of Ottoman rule (or “the Turkish yoke” as commonly heard in Bulgaria), which ended with the Russian-Ottoman war, have intensely marked the Bulgarian consciousness.
Forte, M., n.d. Force multipliers. p.151.
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@Kuva-yi Milliye kyß
@Kuva-yi Milliye more like bot comment😂
God I love this channel
I think one of these type of videos with Italy would be interesting as they sorta have the same problems as Bulgaria in deciding Entente and Central while having claims on both sides
Topic been discussed well enough on quora. Issue with Italy joining central powers is that it would be a strain on their resources. However tying up Entente troops even at half the scale at which they distracted A&H could've been useful. Some divisions in western front, some in east be cool and they don't need to specially prop up the Balkans. The Alps would be just a bad struggle for either side in West portion but entente troops would have to be there regardless. More to win if central powers pull it off. US obviously should not join in such cause.
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If Italy joins the central aliance, that means Austro- Hungarian and probably even italian troops will join Bulgaria and they cod take Greece out fo the war.
That will free more men to go to Turkey and the Western front, which might garantee victory.
@@stefankatsarov5806 За централните сили Македонския фронт не е от огромно значение. Гърция дали ще е в войната или не няма особено значение. За нас този фронт е голяма работа но централните сили се бият на няколко фронта с доста по големи армии. Този фронт е май вече за да може Антантата да вярва в възможността да победи там и да праща войски в региона. Италия няма икономика за да се издържа. Би била полезна за централните сили с войска но ще яде боя в морета а е отградено от море. Щатите не трябва да влизат в войната ако централните сили ще печелят. В края на краищата за какво ни е да спечелят централните сили? Ставаме съседи с А&У и Османците се задържат. Още 2 поколения да си държат близкия изток и черното злато ще ги върне в играта. Ние ще го отнесем в края на краищата.
can you do Poland next
What if Charles XII of Sweden never died. In war.
No, what if he just never died
@@casualjoe1264 That would be interesting.