Great! Not really a fair comparrison though, obviously the patrol will have a better power to weight ratio. I would like to see it compared to the 4 place witht the O540.
Probably could use a 6cl if flying at gross weight out of the Backcountry. Unless you have plenty of room, and/or very low density altitude like you find in Alaska most of the year, a four place 180hp is not going to cut it for true STOL over obstacles.
@@josesbox9555 Lycoming Thunderbolt has a 215 HP version now ... Install that and a 4 into one equal length exhaust header which would bump it to about 222 HP .. use Oratex pre colored covering ( big weight saving ) earth x lithium battery ( 10 lb saving ) , light weight whirlwind ground adjustable prop and with you flying alone you would have a lightweight back country rocket ..... that could seat 4 also
Thanks for the great video thanks for telling us some honest weights on those planes. These are some of the only videos that actually have honest numbers. Comparing the numbers to my Bushmaster with the same engine.
wery interesting all things considered the jury returns for the bearhawk 4 , he can sleep in his, if the bears bother you too much patrol guy having to sleep outside i am sure he would let bunk for the night, is that a B bearhawk ( Note biased I have plans for the B version 4 place) must watch the video again, same engine different props whilst not an exhaustive scientific video still very interesting you would think that the patrol would totally trash the 4 place however yes but only marginally, then you stare at all the real estate Lebensraum you have with the 4 place. :)
The Bearhawk is a flying brick sh#@house compared to other aircraft. It's so robust and yet manages to suffer no apparent performance penalty as a result. It's impressive.
i not understand why some waste lot money bearhawk kit 72K$ plus engine, because lot cheapen can buy used cessna 170 and save 50% cheapen money cessna not need do anythink but kit plane go lot hours build all , go lot more money buy kit plane and work hours build it, but used cessna not need more than go fly.
Great comparisons. I have a Bearhawk 4-place. Do you know if I can purchase the flap handle modification or contact the person who fabricated it? It is really difficult to operate as is. Thanks.
Great comparison. Two different seating configurations with the same engine, same day, simultaneous conditions. They are remarkably similar when solo. But of course the four seater is going to struggle off that gravel bar with a full load, probably needs an O-540 for gross weight true Backcountry STOL operations? Otherwise it probably accelerates like a 172/180hp with four adults? i.e. = Meh.
Two amazing airplanes. Just a question of your mission profile. Thanks for the side-by-side, and huge thanks to Bob Barrows for bringing these fantastic designs to market.
Thanks for the comparison. Just wondering why the all out airspeed is so slow compared to the advertised 160mph from Bearhawk with that engine. Can't be just the 26" bushwheels? I bought the plans years ago, and love Bobs concept and talents. My S-21 pales by comparison, although slightly faster at 133mph TAS.
Not really fair comparing a 4 place with single pilot vs a 2 place with single pilot. Of course the 4 place will have better performance and itvwill stall slower since it has a wing sized to carry much more. . A true comparison would be both airplanes at max takeoff weight. This comparison is quite meaningless.
Hi, thanks for all the video’s regarding Bearhawk aircraft. I have a question, will the 26 Goodyear tyres you use work on the four place. The four place have a 2700 lbs takeoff weight. I will not go to all those serious places where you need 31’s though I would not mind 29 heavy thread ABW. Too much money for cool. My other option is the 900x6x10 ply they use on the DC3 for the tailwheel. Your advice will be much appreciated
I think your best glide should be reduced 5-10 mph. Something not adding up on that comparison. A heavier airplane with the same wing should not out glide yours….
Are you based in Seldovia now? I spent a lot of time there years ago. one of my favorite places in Alaska. Always loved flying around there. I enjoy your vids.
The glide at idle is not a comparison criteria due to drastic differences in constant speed props ... In other words it is not valid other than showing what a great brake the prop is ....
Take the tires off and slide them in...you'll see them stuffed in back on most of our vids. Takes about 60 seconds to load them up once both tires are off.
Jamal Ahmed Depending on your english reading ability, and if you are planning to get a pilots licence in the USA. I can point you to all of the training materials you will ever need to pass the FAA written exam. All the study documents required for that test are available on the FAA website for free. Airplane flying handbook: www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/handbooks_manuals/aviation/airplane_handbook/media/airplane_flying_handbook.pdf And the Airman Certification Standards that you will have to train for can be found here: www.faa.gov/training_testing/testing/acs/media/private_airplane_acs_change_1.pdf In addition to the FAR/AIM (Regulations manual). You will need to study parts 61 and part 91. www.faraim.org/faa/far/index.html Plus read the entire AIM (aronoutical information Manual) at least three times. www.faraim.org/faa/aim/index.html It includes all the weather minimums. (Plus a few hidden gems of info that if you read them it might help you get a 100% score on the written exam!). Like how close is a near-miss considered for general aviation = 50 feet. That's the one question I got wrong on the entire test... said 500' instead, wrong. Lol. You can find FAR/AIM for free line at many different places like those links above or at www.gleim.com/aviation/faraim/ The only book ever written that tells you exactly how to actually fly the airplane, and not just a bunch of rules and regulations is this one. It's a MUST READ. (though it's written in old-fashioned English it's hard to read even for a native English). Nobody has written a better book on flying then STICK and RUDDER. books.google.com/books/about/Stick_and_Rudder_an_Explanation_of_the_A.html?id=Km3WAAAAMAAJ Other great books once you have mastered the basics, and have maybe 20 hours of flying experience or already have your private or sport pilots license I recommend: Aerodynamic for naval aviators is the masters thesis on piloting, aerodynamics, energy. www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/handbooks_manuals/aviation/media/00-80T-80.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiZ4cKYvMnrAhUBWqwKHQZCDzsQFjAAegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw223QV0b_t3qnxyaT5Yq6qp And a little know gem full of piloting wisdom and philosophy: The Thinking Pilots Flight Manual, Vol 1&2. books.google.com/books?id=QS-atgAACAAJ&source=gbs_book_other_versions This is the ENTIRE list of study material and extracurricular books you will EVER need as a sport or private pilot. And most professional pilots have not read all of these books, which is a shame. They really are the best. And I've read over 100+ aviation and flying books.
Cant build a Maule nor buy a certified Bearhawk .. and by clone you mean the angle valve injected 540 bearhawk blowing the Maule away in performance and looking completely different I suppose clone it is
Maule has been very aggressive with its pricing. At the airplanes introduction, a VFR version went for $79,995. Today, and average-equipped MXT-7-180 with a constant-speed prop and average equipment goes for a little over $145,000. get building do your own thing non certified however no fare paying passengers or commercial work but save pots of cash the EAA way. heard a brand new cessna 172 is 400k these days
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Great! Not really a fair comparrison though, obviously the patrol will have a better power to weight ratio.
I would like to see it compared to the 4 place witht the O540.
The 4place O540 should deff outperform the patrol...an extra 85hp does wonders for only a few hundred pounds more in empty weight
It's not fair asking you to compare your Patrol to this aircraft and that aircraft.
It's not as if you have access to a limitless supply of airplanes.
Thanks guys, interesting comparison, lots of fun ;)
Apples to oranges.. Not a good comparison . The only thing in common is they are both BearHawks by name . Completely different models .
Now we need to see a 4 place vs the 5 for sure!!!
Yessss! Getting more and more interested in the BH 4 Place
Probably could use a 6cl if flying at gross weight out of the Backcountry. Unless you have plenty of room, and/or very low density altitude like you find in Alaska most of the year, a four place 180hp is not going to cut it for true STOL over obstacles.
@@TheJustinJ I think the angle valve Lycoming 390 4 cylinder at 210 HP would do the trick ... makes it light
@@markdoan1472 That’d be shit hot
@@josesbox9555 Lycoming Thunderbolt has a 215 HP version now ... Install that and a 4 into one equal length exhaust header which would bump it to about 222 HP .. use Oratex pre colored covering ( big weight saving ) earth x lithium battery ( 10 lb saving ) , light weight whirlwind ground adjustable prop and with you flying alone you would have a lightweight back country rocket ..... that could seat 4 also
@@markdoan1472 Yeah I get it. I’d probably do a CS prop just cause but empty weight is what it’s all about
I’d like to know more about Brian’s gear mods. I’m building a 4 place B model myself.
Great videos!
F Atlee Dodge for the gear. Talk to Justin.
Thanks for the great video thanks for telling us some honest weights on those planes. These are some of the only videos that actually have honest numbers. Comparing the numbers to my Bushmaster with the same engine.
Been looking at a lot of airplanes to see what I want to build someday, that patrol with a Lycoming Thunderbolt and carbon prop would be insane
it would be so great to see a bushplane vs gyrocopter.........!!
wery interesting all things considered the jury returns for the bearhawk 4 , he can sleep in his, if the bears bother you too much patrol guy having to sleep outside i am sure he would let bunk for the night, is that a B bearhawk ( Note biased I have plans for the B version 4 place) must watch the video again, same engine different props whilst not an exhaustive scientific video still very interesting you would think that the patrol would totally trash the 4 place however yes but only marginally, then you stare at all the real estate Lebensraum you have with the 4 place. :)
Loving all of the comparisons, Jon. Appreciate it!
I know it is kinda randomly asking but do anybody know a good place to stream newly released series online?
@Alexis Ernesto I watch on Flixzone. Just search on google for it =)
@Uriel Cohen yup, I have been using flixzone for months myself =)
@Uriel Cohen Thanks, I signed up and it seems to work :D I appreciate it !
@Alexis Ernesto You are welcome xD
The Bearhawk is a flying brick sh#@house compared to other aircraft.
It's so robust and yet manages to suffer no apparent performance penalty as a result.
It's impressive.
i not understand why some waste lot money bearhawk kit 72K$ plus engine, because lot cheapen can buy used cessna 170 and save 50% cheapen money cessna not need do anythink but kit plane go lot hours build all , go lot more money buy kit plane and work hours build it, but used cessna not need more than go fly.
Great comparisons. I have a Bearhawk 4-place. Do you know if I can purchase the flap handle modification or contact the person who fabricated it? It is really difficult to operate as is. Thanks.
Contact Mario Maccarone
907-746-2347
He did the Mod. I have pictures I'll try to find
Great comparison.
Two different seating configurations with the same engine, same day, simultaneous conditions.
They are remarkably similar when solo.
But of course the four seater is going to struggle off that gravel bar with a full load, probably needs an O-540 for gross weight true Backcountry STOL operations? Otherwise it probably accelerates like a 172/180hp with four adults? i.e. = Meh.
both are awesome looking airplanes but I would go for the 4 place for sure
Can you write some conclusion of comparizon in the end of the videos or under the videos?
Two amazing airplanes. Just a question of your mission profile. Thanks for the side-by-side, and huge thanks to Bob Barrows for bringing these fantastic designs to market.
Great video, but you didn't mention the HP of each or the gross weight
You need to swap planes and do it again. He's got a 100 pounds on you.
Haha...that airline pilot lifestyle...
Jon, you just need to eat your vegetables. ;)
Great video
I think this fall I will be in the market for a 4 place
Awesome job. All the Bearhawks are awesome
Thanks for the comparison. Just wondering why the all out airspeed is so slow compared to the advertised 160mph from Bearhawk with that engine. Can't be just the 26" bushwheels? I bought the plans years ago, and love Bobs concept and talents. My S-21 pales by comparison, although slightly faster at 133mph TAS.
Will both aircrafts be able to have floats or amphibious installed in the future?
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Not really fair comparing a 4 place with single pilot vs a 2 place with single pilot. Of course the 4 place will have better performance and itvwill stall slower since it has a wing sized to carry much more. . A true comparison would be both airplanes at max takeoff weight. This comparison is quite meaningless.
Pretty much of a ridiculous comparison. Ligther plane, same horsepower. Duh!
Hi, thanks for all the video’s regarding Bearhawk aircraft. I have a question, will the 26 Goodyear tyres you use work on the four place. The four place have a 2700 lbs takeoff weight. I will not go to all those serious places where you need 31’s though I would not mind 29 heavy thread ABW. Too much money for cool. My other option is the 900x6x10 ply they use on the DC3 for the tailwheel. Your advice will be much appreciated
I think your best glide should be reduced 5-10 mph. Something not adding up on that comparison. A heavier airplane with the same wing should not out glide yours….
you bounced your landing and didn't keep the tailwheel up with proper braking....explain
Hi, does Ryan hove a youtube site, I am building a Bearhawk 4 place and would love to chat to him regarding the gear.
Are you based in Seldovia now? I spent a lot of time there years ago. one of my favorite places in Alaska. Always loved flying around there. I enjoy your vids.
Did the 170 havearver tires too? Throw the same size as the 170 and give us some real numbers!
Good and informative, thanks. However, two people, two body microphones, please. “Bad sound makes good video look bad.”
great video.... I'm curious about how much he paid for his 4 place
great info, thankx
Hate to point this out but the 4 place was carrying 'two' pilots. I can say this as I'm a 'person of size also. :)
The glide at idle is not a comparison criteria due to drastic differences in constant speed props ... In other words it is not valid other than showing what a great brake the prop is ....
hello, please tell me the model of the stabilizer for gopro on which the video was filmed
This dude just said he transported a Honda XR......I need this airplane.
has anyone done a 4 pl Bearhawk with a STOL wing?
Sweet!!!
Did you guys land up the Woz river?
The Bearhawk 4 place can use the 540 engine.
Hey, can you make a video and show how you get the two fat tire bikes in your 170?
Take the tires off and slide them in...you'll see them stuffed in back on most of our vids. Takes about 60 seconds to load them up once both tires are off.
Flying around my home bay.
Excellent stuff bro
Really nice bush planes !!!
Geese the bearhawk is slow
Central Texas Plane?
🤔... Patrol 👍🤗
This is my 5 year i trying to study pilot courses but i dont know how to start 😒😒😒
Hey Jamal! We offer courses to start flight training on our website, fly8ma.com!
Jamal Ahmed
Depending on your english reading ability, and if you are planning to get a pilots licence in the USA. I can point you to all of the training materials you will ever need to pass the FAA written exam.
All the study documents required for that test are available on the FAA website for free.
Airplane flying handbook:
www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/handbooks_manuals/aviation/airplane_handbook/media/airplane_flying_handbook.pdf
And the Airman Certification Standards that you will have to train for can be found here: www.faa.gov/training_testing/testing/acs/media/private_airplane_acs_change_1.pdf
In addition to the FAR/AIM (Regulations manual).
You will need to study
parts 61 and part 91.
www.faraim.org/faa/far/index.html
Plus read the entire AIM (aronoutical information Manual) at least three times.
www.faraim.org/faa/aim/index.html
It includes all the weather minimums. (Plus a few hidden gems of info that if you read them it might help you get a 100% score on the written exam!). Like how close is a near-miss considered for general aviation = 50 feet. That's the one question I got wrong on the entire test... said 500' instead, wrong. Lol.
You can find FAR/AIM for free line at many different places like those links above or at www.gleim.com/aviation/faraim/
The only book ever written that tells you exactly how to actually fly the airplane, and not just a bunch of rules and regulations is this one. It's a MUST READ. (though it's written in old-fashioned English it's hard to read even for a native English).
Nobody has written a better book on flying then STICK and RUDDER. books.google.com/books/about/Stick_and_Rudder_an_Explanation_of_the_A.html?id=Km3WAAAAMAAJ
Other great books once you have mastered the basics, and have maybe 20 hours of flying experience or already have your private or sport pilots license I recommend:
Aerodynamic for naval aviators is the masters thesis on piloting, aerodynamics, energy.
www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/handbooks_manuals/aviation/media/00-80T-80.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiZ4cKYvMnrAhUBWqwKHQZCDzsQFjAAegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw223QV0b_t3qnxyaT5Yq6qp
And a little know gem full of piloting wisdom and philosophy:
The Thinking Pilots Flight Manual, Vol 1&2. books.google.com/books?id=QS-atgAACAAJ&source=gbs_book_other_versions
This is the ENTIRE list of study material and extracurricular books you will EVER need as a sport or private pilot. And most professional pilots have not read all of these books, which is a shame. They really are the best. And I've read over 100+ aviation and flying books.
So, the bearhawk is a maule clone?
Cant build a Maule nor buy a certified Bearhawk .. and by clone you mean the angle valve injected 540 bearhawk blowing the Maule away in performance and looking completely different I suppose clone it is
Os that an A or B model 4 place?
A
A 4 place bear hawk is basically a funny looking Maule
That you can build in your shop and repair yourself (legally) forever.
Maule has been very aggressive with its pricing. At the airplanes introduction, a VFR version went for $79,995. Today, and average-equipped MXT-7-180 with a constant-speed prop and average equipment goes for a little over $145,000. get building do your own thing non certified however no fare paying passengers or commercial work but save pots of cash the EAA way. heard a brand new cessna 172 is 400k these days
#heavierout
Always!