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Congratulations and thank y’all for the I introduction! And yes, get some lights on it! Looking forward to more updates!
There is so much innovation in experimental aviation right now that I am envious. By contrast, in the certificated aircraft world, the only innovation I am seeing, outside of avionics, is at the very top end of the spectrum -- $700k Cirrus and similar. I would like to see a lot more innovation imported from experimental (and kit) aircraft design into the certificated world. Particularly urgent is innovation in driving down manufacturing cost.
Love the EC135 in the background!
Great video and loved the walk around, love the bob barrows designs. I believe the wing is underrated but the landing gear although perfectly adequate could use a lot more width and travel for backcountry/no runway landings. I have heard stories that these are real workhorses in the missionary fields and that even the worst runways where no problem for them. I believe the bearcat is the best 4 seat experimental backcountry plane out there but its not a big category. I am really looking forward to seeing a lot more about the patrol. Thank you.
Shalom
We loved having you at Geauga County Airport (7G8). Thanks for sharing your stories with us. I hope to fly with you again. Fly Safely.
Thanks Ric!
looking forward to seeing you and the new ride in Daytona Beach. safe travels. loving the new plane.
Glad to have ya along for the ride until then!
If in Canandaigua tomorrow, 11-7 you may need ski on her! I live mile East near NY62, grass, owned by a friend of mine. He has his Bushcat there, and we have snow warnings here. Fly safe and have fun. Oh there was no voice when she was talking!
Congrats on the new airplane! Very, very cool choice. Hope you all enjoy it.
Thanks, we're definitely having a blast so far!
Great vid, John
I have joined your channel in eager anticipation of more Bearhawk Patrol material. Very exciting plane, which I think does more things well than anything else on the market. It’s like a Vans RV of STOL planes: Great short-field capability, range, fast, robust, wide cabin, great climb. For my money, I’d say it unequaled in value for those who need or want a strong plane they can put on bushwheels, skis or floats. In fact Im so convinced, I did spend my money to buy a quickbuild kit. By the way, my experience has been just stellar with both Mark Goldberg who builds the kits and Mike Silvernagle at Bearhawk Canada who I bought mine from. The help they have provided so far has vastly reduced any anxiety I felt taking on a project of this scope.
I’m really pleased to see this video series take place; there’s just no substitute for professionals flying the plane hard, over time, and reporting back to the flying community. The manufacturer clearly has a lot of faith in his product. It would be difficult to subject the plane to this level of scrutiny, were this not the case.
Fantastic video of the Bearhawk Patrol! Great job Jon & Steph!
We appreciate it!
John, I'm sooo thankfull for the CFI videos you did with Lufthansa in Goodyear, AZ. They helped me a lot on my CFI Checkride 2 days ago. I passed it on my 1st try. I wish I can meet you in person and atleast shake your hand. Keep it up brother, much respect. May Jesus Christ help you and prosper your family and your business..
So happy to hear that.. and congrats on your checkride!! We'll make it happen one day, but until then safe flying!
Hey! Saw your 170 at lake hood. Looking good!
You gotta work on that "uh"! 😂 nice plane, I'm looking forward to seeing it!
Great video, thank you
I just started building a 4 place Bearhawk. I'm super excited about the airplane but it will be many years before I get to enjoy this one. Congrats on your patrol and welcome to the Bearhawk community!
Appreciate it! Hopefully you'll get to enjoy yours sooner rather than later
How many is many years. Some how I do not believe you.
Awesome, can’t wait to see it in person!!!
It's a beaut!!
Great rundown on the Patrol. It was nice to meet you and have you hang out at 7G8 for a while.
Nice meeting you too! Cheers!!
Dig the Bearhawk, great looking plane. WOuld be nice to see you put wider gear with bigger tires and longer suspension for those off airport landings. Hopefully you can get the stall speed down to a reasonable speed with wing mods
Nice walkaround of the Patrol! Looking forward to further reviews.
We'll have some more patrol content on the way!
Could you give a breakdown on the cost difference for annuals and other required maintenance? Also, the difference when choosing and equipping avionics for an experimental vs a certified airplane.
After your stopover in Rochester, as you head east you might consider stopping in at:
KSDC Williamson-Sodus Airport Heading 085° Distance 25.2 - From ROC
(fuel will be cheaper than ROC). Assume flying club there ... spent many fun hours as a flying club member. If you are able to stop in, tell them that Archie says hello and misses all of them.
BTW nine years ago, in the middle of our move from the area, I had a retina detached which resulted in the the sale of my 172XP (N736ES) .. .last time I checked its still part of their club fleet.
Safe travels
Our schedule is pretty tight, but I'll look into it for sure!
Be safe and stay warm.
Trying our best lol thank you!
Easy adjustments, takes a few up and downs. Enjoy the new wing.
We appreciate it!
Nice plane! Looking forward to following your adventures in it.
Thanks!! Plenty of great content in it coming along the way
Cant hear Stef. Congrats on the plane. Looks fun!
Thanks for the comparison! Where in NH will you be? (and when?). KASH (Nashua) possibly?
Because of your video I called Bearhawk today. It looks like the best of both worlds. Really fast AND a STOL. I talked to Mark and he said I was the first to call because I’d seen your video. I watch all your videos and this was great information so I thank you for sharing. I’m in Alabama at the Gulf of Mexico. It’s beautiful here if you ever get this way. Anyway, I’d like to know your schedule in case you get anywhere close to here so I could see your new ride. Hope so. I’d travel quite a ways to see it. Keep up the great work!
So, Scott Koehn did you put a deposit on a new plane or what?
Oh well No, I’ll be shopping for awhile. Don’t know which airplane is right for me. I like this one but need to see in person. I’ll try to figure that out
It's a great ride for sure! Our latest travel updates can be found at fly8ma.com/trip, and we'll be making updates along the way. Until then, thanks for checking out the ride with us!
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Great plane good walk round and thanks for sharing cheers
Cheers, Paul!!
Great video guys! Cool plane
Thanks! Feel free to share it around a bit
LOVE the Bearhawk ! but not the COLD .........and the hat ?, well I'm on the fence about.... how 'bout one of those Russian sub zero super warm double layer type (lol)..........
back to the new plane, REALLY NICE and thats the truth ! Have a great trip, fly safe.
Great Video as always......Im interested to understand your thought process when deciding to go with the BearHawk; rather or Instead of other similar planes on the market ?
So did you guys buy the plane from Mark? She sure is a beauty! Hope to check it out in person if you guys find your way back to AZ again!
The first comment on that killer drone shot. Nice!
Thanks David!
Looks like y'all made it back to Geauga Co.
I am the guy who messaged you on IG a few weeks back when I got my Private Pilot Liscense.
Awesome new Airplane! I hope you have alot of fun in it but I'm sure you will :)
Thanks for that.. We're having a blast for sure so far!
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Awesome man!
Jon, how do we sign up for your safety seminars? Do you have a schedule?
Winter coming, I want that shapka. Plane is beautiful.
Thank you!!
Very nice plane! Thanks for the video! Are you coming anywhere near Albany NY? Saratoga, Eastern Vermont, Eastern Massachusetts?
Priority #1 Lights! Being "experimental", you have a huge range of options, make sure you check them all out. Cheers from Winnipeg.
Ya... we'll definitely make the adjustment
That is my dream plane when are you coming back to Oregon?
Great plane! Come to Saskatchewan, Canada! On our farm we have a super cub, 170a, and 185 that you could compare with.
Would love to some day! Cheers!!
Sweet airplane, I'm in Massachusetts, fly out of KBED, but centrally located between KASH, KFIT, and 6b6. I'll watch the schedule.
Keep an eye on that schedule!
She's a beautiful bird. Looking forward to seeing your new adventures with her.
We've got plenty coming along the way!
Birds have feathers. planes have wings. see the difference? And airplanes do not have gender or any other machine.
@@ohwell2790
Thank you so much for pointing out that crucial piece of information to me. Yes, I do see where I went wrong now. And to think..I've successfully negotiated my way through the day to day trenches of adult existence believing otherwise!
While we're on, may I point out to you that planes are in fact woodworking tools.. see the difference? That being the case, I feel my description of a bird is a little closer than yours..that of a flying woodworking tool. Also, as you appear to have a meticulous attention to detail, would you please explain your last sentence which doesn't appear to make much sense as it reads that airplanes do not have any other machine?!!!
Finally, and this is just my own observation.. I bet you're a 'wow' at parties!
Comparing it to a Cessna 170 is like apples to oranges. Comparing it to a Super Cub would be better.
So is the 170 entirely? That's not a night/ifr rated plane right?
Hey Jon, congrats on the new plane... do you remember N38KF? (Kolb aircraft) I saw that plane in a few of your earlier videos... I lived close to X39 and saw the plane that is for sale by the owner of Tampa North Aero Park.
Nice! That was a fun plane to fly!
Would love to see you guys back in the big AK one day! Rainy and dark right now!
We'll hopefully make it out there again soon!
Hi Jon, I know this is off topic but you have been a great help so far, I hope you can clear this for me, I'm a rusty pilot getting current after many years of inactivity and I need a headset, I hear a lot of good things about ANR but there is always a comment saying "good luck hearing the engine" Personally I like to stay in touch with the sounds of an aircraft, will I be able to hear the engine with an ANR set? perhaps more important, will I be able to hear the stall warning? do you think I would do better with a high end passive set? I noticed from your videos that you use a lightspeed set, if I go with ANR I like the lightspeed sierra, what do you think?
Love the new bird..would love to see it in person... I flew out of Plymouth mass.. kpym great airport! Great sights to see on cape I can give you some places to check out! Let me know.. and keep the awesome vids coming! Safe flying!,
Will do for sure.. Thanks for checking out the plane!
Great review, What a pretty build!
Thanks!! Definitely enjoying it so far
@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 any place you recommend for a tail wheel endorsement for a lowish time pilot (270 Hrs)?
You guys should fly over letchworth state park ( Grand Canon of the East) in New York on your way to Rochester. I live just north of OLE airport great little airport even tho it is under utilized.
Our schedule is pretty tight but we'll look into it for sure!
I see what looks like two stops in DE, where will you be posting details of the stops? Thanks for the great videos. Keep them coming!
We'll post our stops on fly8ma.com/trip and get more details added ongoing
Hi John and Steph. Is the Bearhawk an addition or will you be selling the 170? Kind of hard to fly 2 airplanes and drive a 5th wheel rig all at the same time. Bearhawk sure looks nice though.
Does Velcro really work for camera mount? Was surprised but sounds like you have used that before.
Hey guys, if you get a chance, you should stop in at KSFM. It’s on your way as you head south from Portland, ME. My daughter and I would like to meet you both, and check out your new addition.
Wish we could have... Our schedule is pretty tight at the moment. Next time for sure!
Are you still planing on being at KMVL on the 9th? I am headed to KVNC on the 8th.
new a/c looks awesome...but I'll miss 'little Delta'
My only worry with the Patrol is getting in and out of it.. the wing strut is in the wrong place for me to swing my leg in..
So, how tall of a person could fly that. I’m 6’6” with a long torso. Any chance I’d fit?
Which Birmingham area airport will you be visiting?
You guys ROCK...K.C. from Utah!!
We appreciate that!! Cheers to ya!
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Great video. My buddy is almost done with his Patrol. Do another vid about how to fly the thing. He is very interested in your opinions👍👍👍
What happened to the 170? I’m a Cessna fan!
You should do a video over the different types of ailerons and trim tabs
I'll add it to the list for sure
Been wondering where you have been. Good looking bird. Take care - be safe. Spin
Ya... we've been all over the place
@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 Was hoping you made it to Bills Drive inn Ann Arbor before they closed for the winter.
Congratulations!
I live in New Hampshire, where do you plan on stopping? I fly out of KLCI near lake Winnipesaukee, great airport and a very scenic part of the state. If you plan on being in the area I'd love to see your new plane and say HI.
KLCI, that's the place I visited the most during my commercial xc training. Love the view and landing over the lake even when frozen. Love it.
Awesome! Congrats on your new wings. Be sure to update your website with the correct dates. It currently shows you in Bangor ME, but I'm guessing that's incorrect?
We'll try to keep it updated as we go! Currently headed over to the Boston area
@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 nice! That's where I'm at...know where you're landing?
Awesome! We're over at 28M... Will be here the next few days
how much did this plane cost you guys?
It would be cool to see a in-depth video on how you acquired the Bearhawk.
We'll add it to the list!
What an awesome trip that would be but as things go I need to work and I do IT...... :-(
Hey if when are you crossing WV/Southern Ohio?
I fly out of KPOU, mid Hudson valley NY. Stop by and I’ll buy dinner.
I fly rentals out of KSCH, can I stop by and have dinner or lunch too😁.
The schedule is pretty tight, but would hopefully love to!
I'm on Long Island, NY and would love to go to an event if nearby. I just got my private certificate this morning so could fly somewhere nearby too :D
Nice! Congratulations 🎉... we'll post our schedule on fly8ma.com/trip
Also on the Island and would attend, enjoy your videos! Thanks for all of the fun and very informative content
Love to hear it!! Cheers!
Where do you plan to stop in MA/NH? Would be really interested in seeing the bear hawk.
We'll have full updates on our stops coming soon at fly8ma.com/trip
Thank You for showing the plane. Not out East sorry.
For someone with close to 5000 hours of Super Cub time, the numbers you gave are really interesting, especially the cruise speed versus fuel burn. What do you attribute the reduced drag to?
Less draggy gear (no cabane), two less lift struts, and a Riblett metal covered (versus fabric) airfoil is what I hear.
Looks like the front seat is well stacked up for Steph...
Lol....yup!
@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 as when I started at age 12, lol!
Prolly squeeze 4 peeps in that sucker
on your way south you should stop at KEKX
Would love to at some point!
¡Enhorabuena! 🤗 Congratulations! ...hey, Do you train for Sport Pilot Ratio? Thanks.
Do you have schedule when you will be in North Carolina and what airports you will be at?
Not yet, but we will be adding all details to fly8ma.com/trip
That aircraft I believe was built for Mark not by Mark.
Nice plane. Have you come through the Philadelphia area yet? 😊
Yup! Just left LOM and at FDK now
What part of Ohio are you?
What happened to the 170? I’m a old Cessna fan and 140 pilot!
We're still flying the 170!
In other words, a LandRover with wings.
Nice Plane! What’s the W&B like, GW and empty weight? Can’t wait to see it and you guys in VDZ!
I'm not sure what the empty weight is, but it's likely around 1100-1150lbs. Gross weight on the patrol is 2000lbs.
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@@josephsills3835 did Mark put that number out somewhere?
@@RussellTelker No, I weighed the airplane .
Do you plan on making it IFR capable?
Not right now, but we'll see!
Is that hat available on your site.
So what day will you be in Canandaigua? That's where I live would be cool to check out the plane!
Here now
@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 awsome. I'll swing by the airport in the a.m. see if I can catch ya! 4 letter word in the weather forecast starts with S :)
Did you go to RAC yet?
@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 I see your still here lol. Must like the cold!
Lol you know it!
Wow im the 1st to comment. 😁😁😁. About how much does this baby goes for. I also decided to become a CFI but a bit nervous about it man.
Don't be nervous, you've definitely got it!!
If you go ahead with a CFI, one thing to always remember is never let a student fly you into a position from which you cannot recover.
How much is the kit and did ya build it?
9 gal per hour ouch just now realising what it cost to fly just for fuel 😭
Why can you put the flaps down so easy????????????
Please please please!!!!!! Let me know wen u guys come thru Richmond VA.......wud love to meet u guys....and if theres time lets fly to the Fighter Factory in VA Beach and drool over sum restored flyable WWI and WWII warbirds!!!!!!
We'll be over towards Richmond next month!
@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 ....awsum...once it gets closer lemee know....ill keep up with IG.....we can do a formation flight to VA Beach.....maybe my Mooney will keep up with the Bear Hawk...hahaha
Our schedule is pretty tight for the rest of the year, but I'll keep it in mind!!
Do you still have the 170?
You bet!!
Good!! I love mine and can’t imagine not having it. This new one looks like fun and can’t wait to see more videos with your adventures. Have fun and fly safe.
Very nice looking aircraft, looks in great condition, do you still have the 170 ?
Sure do! Will be keeping that for a while!
I want a bearhawk 5 so fuckin bad
Can you please take your mono audio track and convert it to stereo? I only had one ear bud in and I thought your audio failed when Stephanie started talking...
NO Timmy G that is how it is, just accept that or tune out.
@oh well - What? I can’t hear you... lol
Lucky Dog
Definitely loving it lol
Did you sell the 170?
Also UA-cam keeps unsubbing me from your channel, making me mad as hell, this has happened 4 or 5 times now.
No way, definitely holding onto it for awhile. And I'm not sure why that would be happening, but I'll look into it!
@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 That is good, letting go of the 170 at this point would be like getting rid of ole yeller!
On that note, January 13th I start school to get my A&P!
That's awesome, best of luck to you!!
If you guys end up in southeastern MA ghg or 28m and wanna borrow a car to get around give me a shout
We appreciate the offer!!