It's launching at 9am PST on steam: store.steampowered.com/app/1218210/Coromon/ Switch was delayed for a bit, and mobile is planned for before Summer. No exact dates yet, but I'll keep you guys updated, so make sure to subscribe so you get notified when we get any info on those platforms :) Thanks so much for watching
It really makes me happy to see a new generation of game developers whose entire motivation boils down to "you ruined my favorite game, so I'm going to make my own version." Anyway, looks like they're planning cross-platform saves, so I guess I'll be buying this twice. (I actually don't get how that's going to work, but I'm excited for it!)
Fucking finally. Pokemon had so many tries to drastically improve, so many second chances, so many rabit fans, the sad part is that they will only improve when their bottom line is threatened.
@@brawler5760 I don't think the devs share the intensity of spite towards game freak. They saw an opportunity. Now it's just to the average consumer to decide what will get from now on.
I kinda doubt it gets a physical realese bc of Nintendo and Nintendo alone. They will eventually realese It like temtem via download (Iguess? Never played temtem)
@@dman6261if you want difficulty start playing drayano hacks,like geez there are so many difficulty hacks out there and no coromon doesn't get close to Pokemon specially in the Monsters design
3:40 Does no one remember Fossil Fighters? You fend off against alien invaders quite explicitly in that one. The Dinaurians have their home destroyed, and start the process to make earth a habital living space for their race. I know it wasn't that popular of a series and Frontier killed this infant franchise, but I didn't think it was this forgotten.
Coromon is so cool, it reminds me old pokemon games. But with a upgrade in a lot of aspects. You can feel the love in the Coromons itself, soundtracks, story and even minigames. I love the Art and Graphics!!
I remember having a blast with the demo as well as adoring the sprite art/animation, especially Nibblegar! Thanks for the review Ed and hopefully I can pick this game up soon.
2:56 I do love when fantasy and sci-fi converge like this within a story, it shows you can have a vast universe set beyond the boundaries of the initial setting you're set in. Reminds me of how Dragon Ball started out as a fantasy adventure series before expanding into sci-fi and then melded the two much later and seemlessly, so it's cool to see a monster catching setting experiment with this premise
I picked it up moments ago and all your speed up suggestions were in the settings 😂 awesome! I'm aware they probably weren't a year ago when this video was made it's just nice those are non issues now.
I got back into monster taming games because of Temtem, but because of your channel I got to know Coromon and got instantly hooked! Thanks for introducing it to me! It reminds me of the time I played Pokémon Crystal (my personal favorite Pokémon game) and the other other of the earlier Pokémon games!
I got around to buying coromon couple weeks ago on switch. I enjoy your channel, love monster games. After resetting for about 3 days finally got potent lv20 cubzero. To my surprise I saw your NPC added in the game 😂. That's pretty awesome you should feel proud.
2:48 i have played the demo and if you choose the long start and get every qeustion right the starter that is the most match with the answers will be high potantial
I admit my biggest concern for Coromon was that it would try to be old school Pokemon but do little to address those early problems which is what killed TemTem dead for me. While I do like the idea of customizing stats I'm not so sure I'm a fan of having shinies being tied to a perfect coromon. Granted I dislike hunting for a "perfect" mon to begin with and prefer to just build up the one I catch from the get go like how it is in SMT V or PL: A Grits. Not ideal, but I can honestly work with it as I'm not quote on quote "hardcore" player of most monster taming games. I do like the idea of having puzzles in a game which is something I do deeply miss from older Pokemon games, so that is a good enough hook for me and the bonus is that it feels like that you have a purpose outside of just being a PC in the world like you know it being your job in this game which I'm always happy to have going for me. Gives me better motivation to continue the story and helps to mask the hump that a lot of monster training tropes are present. A lack of a Post-game isn't too much a deal breaker for me as most don't really hold too much of an appeal for me and I can take or leave most if just ignore it entirely. I'll keep an eye out whenmore is added and good on them for making it a free update. All in all I'll have to play the game myself, but I say that through this review my initial worries have been somewhat soothed. So may pick this up when I tackle my backlog a bit. Thanks Ed.
@Mystic Everything in the game just felt really sluggish and I didn't get much of a sense of purpose to actually go out and explore this world other than "Welp you're old enough to do this now so yeah go on git and scat!" Plus your rival just feels like being a jerkass because he can be a jerkass. Like instinct feels like there is some pre heel face turn Silver but I had the sinking sensation he is meant to emulate Blue who wasn't *that* stuck up. Nose in the air and a bit smug but not high off his own fumes. Then the actual training itself is *fine* it serves its purpose but it didn't wow me. I will acknowledge that I only stuck with it for about eight hours, but the game never felt like it really opened up and became interesting and I was ho humming and thinking "I should probably get back to my heartgold nuzlocke" This next thing isn't related to the original point, but I thought I should mention this. There were times I got slapped with trainer tems with unreasonably high level for the tems I had at the time. On one hand I don't mind this as I figured it was times when the game was going to start opening up and it really didn't. I didn't feel I was rewarded for playing cleverly or even efficently and the fight became a slog I was just happy to have done and over with. After being disappointed there wasn't anything to do at the school other than some simple side quests I sloughed my way to where the first gym was supposed to be, find out I had to hunt down the first gym leader and the thought of more wandering through trainer battles and wild Temtems killed any interest in playing the game myself cold. I don't mind watching folks that know what their doing play it but I have little to no desire to play the game any further at this point.
@Mystic That's an incredible way to boil down my point to the bare bones. I wish I didn't see it coming, but its the kind of answer I get all the time. I get that many monster taming games more or less follow similar threads, but not all of them do it equally. With TemTem it doesn't do a good job of masking going through the motions so I was taken out of it several times. In SMT: Strange Journey the atmosphere it builds up in the opening hour before you even get into the game proper and I can go back to that over and over for that point alone. As for the difficulty I can respect that its the point of it, but TemTem for as long as I stuck with it did not do it in a satisfying nor fun way. There were times it was easy that Tems just fell over and then suddenly they just throw a high level beat stick at you. Like I never got much out of the stamina or charging attacks which while intriguing ideas didn't feel they were implemented well enough that would have me interested in experimenting more with it which is what I meant by the game opening up. If the rival opens up more later than I'll choose to believe you, I'm not particularly interested in him after that first encounter. Same with the story I'll choose to believe you, but a lot of folks confuse mature content with mature story and game never gave me much of a sense of that.
@Mystic I would argue paying 40 dollars and playing the game for 8 hours is more than a chance. Also as previously stated I agree with the insight that the that my complaints could be leveled at any monster taming game. My issue with the statement is that in my eyes TemTem does a poor job of minimizing its slog of an early game. The characters are not interesting/endearing enough to motivate me to find out more. The battling while it as an interesting wrinkle with attacks that interact with each other you don't get enough temtem (at least for me) that makes it worth experimenting with. And when I refer to beatsticks it was outside those tutorial fights like one that despite getting a sleep off, debuffing its attack three times and raising defense of a pokemon that taunted it twice it bit through it easily. It was not a crit either. So like what is the point of using the tools available to me if the game seems to flat out ignore it? By the time I sloughed up the hill side to where the first gym was I was at the end my interest and when the the game went "oh gym leader isn't here, gotta go find'em" that was my I'm outta here moment. If the game is this bevy of depth, strategy, tactics and difficulty I believe you. In my experience when I played it TemTem does not do a good enough job to keep me invested to get to that point. Games in monster taming that I do enjoy playing get me over the usual early game grind by either having characters that I like being around and/or a hook that keeps me around long enough so when the game itself really opens up I am invested enough to dive deeper into it.
@Mystic I should have been clear I meant the variety of moves you get at that early point was lacking to try out more combinations of synergy attacks so it wasn't piquing my interest. That's what I get for making a post on a phone at like 3 am. I don't know if I'm up to give TemTem a second chance, but I will acknowledge the period I played was July 2020 after what I think is its first major island update. I will also give maybe having a co-op partner will make the experience more tolerable and I have a good friend that does like the game.
I got this 4 days ago and just finished it today. I was not expecting to get as addicted as I did. Loved the designs, there was never one that I really disliked. Never one that felt out of place imo even with ones I was not a big fan of. Felt ending was rush but considering this was the first game I was totaly content with it. Still room for improvement and did have my fare share of frustrations with game design but all in all loved the experience. P.S. Nibblegar best sharkboy
Pokemon and 3D all cool for me but I 100% agree that the pixel era was the dopest for my taste. It just looks soo cute and lets some space for your imagination to add the fine details to it.
i played gen 9, 8 and 7 in this order and in every game i wanted to stop playing bevor i even completed half of the games. I swear the 3d pokemon games are ass, im never touching them again
the first time i played the demo which i absolutely loved, just got me into the game, it got me waiting for the full version (it felt like decades since coromon kept promising to release it early on android, while they did release it, it was only on steam) this game was gold i absolutely had fun playing this game, very recommended
Finished the game in 5-6 hours. Although its basically pokemon (but not), you can tell there was a lot of love and work put into the game so definitely worth the price.
Great review! I'm maybe halfway through the game myself, having picked it up during this Steam Winter Sale and loving it so far. Your video just happened to pop up! The game really does remind me of older Pokemon games for the GBA/DS for all the right reasons. This was the right game for me personally as I was looking for another alternative to Pokemon after finishing the story in Temtem. The music is so damn good, I'll be honest in that using that particular battle track as your background music for your review was a tad bit distracting, haha. I am a huge fan of pixel art, especially since this style matches the old Pokemon games so well! The combat system is somewhat of a blend of Pokemon and Temtem, although it lacks Temtem's strategic choices in favor of just its stamina management. I'm in favor of this system over Pokemon's Power Point system, although IMO Coromon doesn't really utilize it to its full potential. I think Temtem uses stamina with a bit more strategy since you have a second Temtem on the field at all times, while Coromon plays it extremely safe. I think there is room for further improvement, but what we have from these games are absolutely solid ideas and a good gameplay loop. The only thing I didn't really like so far is when you run into situations where your Coromon is stuck fighting 1v2 or 1v3. But overall, I enjoyed the boss fights and the gameplay so far. I found it a bit funny how Coromon tries to justify your job as a "Battle Researcher", so you are dispatched out on your adventure instead of just being a ten year old kid, given a pokedex and thrown out of your house to go on an adventure. As far as endgame goes, for a lot of players like myself, we really don't stick around very long if there aren't new areas or story added to continue the journey onwards. That's not a failing on a game. All stories will end at some point. It is the time that we spend enjoying the journey with our monster pals that truly matters. Shine Bright!
'no more shiny that sucks' - those that realy a problem? In main series pokemon you can easily change to similar to best with bottle cup, with is common. The same with EV and nature. In pokemon go there is lucky system that encourage to have friends.
Hey Ed, just wanna know how distinctives coromon full ver from the demo? Are there like any major changes like item you get after you complete certain quests?
Sounds like a good foundation for them, looking forward to play it. Hopefully they add a speed up option in the future, since the speed seems to be a common criticism. Also I think they could address the limitations of the Potential system discouraging the use of the lower rarity color scheme by making it so higher rarity color schemes can switch their appearance to the lower rarity ones in PvP
@@nazeersadek6705 In serious PvP I’m certain most will just end up using the Perfect variants. Since they’re objectively better combat wise. So I’m not really sure how it can trick the opponent.
@@dangernoodle5831 if you’re using a perfect with a potent color for example your opponent will be tricked in the damage calculating aspects where they’ll think they can survive an attack or be able to ko your Coromon when they won’t
@@nazeersadek6705 What they're saying is that it wouldn't trick people, as they'd always expect a perfect variant and calculate accordingly, no matter the colour scheme, as there is no reason not to use a perfect variant as they are just objectively better, and I completely agree, I'd have said it myself if they hadn't
I really liked this game. I never finished it, as I got stuck needing to do some heavy exp grinding for my team at a certain point. However before I needed to do that grind, I was progressing steadily (sometimes slowly, sometimes fast) and doing amazing. Absolutely love a lot of the unique mechanics. Plus there are plenty of things vaguely similar to mechanics in other Monster Taming games. Surprisingly, the mechanics are not only things I've noticed in Pokemon, but also other Monster Taming Games as well that made things that aren't in Pokemon. The game is so very good and I do reccomend it.
Reminds me of Monster Sanctuary ever heard of that one thats an indie game developed by Team17 who did the Worms games which are a turn based strategy game even Monster Sanctuary as that is based on the pixelated Pokémon from Red, Blue and Yellow up to Black 2 and White 2 versions.
It IS the best looking monster taming game I’ve seem. Visually-wise, it just makes me sad though that some attacks that are supposed to come from the coromon actually come from off-screen of all places, as f the is someone outside the ring giving a hand.
Great review. how long would the game be for doing all content? i've played 2 games tagged as "creature collector" Nexomon Extinction(35hrs) and Monster Sanctuary(50hrs). I enjoyed both. I enjoyed Nexomons customization for new game+ function(Wish Monster Sanctuary had this function). Large amount of monsters but not as diverse in terms of monster skills. I enjoyed Monster Sanctuary' team based monsters, skills and customization(Wish Nexomon had this flexiblity), fantastic mix and match and they have alternative light and dark versions of the monster to reflect skills and stats even though their monster count is way less than Nexomons.
Really unfortunate to hear it got delayed on switch til who knows when. Is it relatively bug free? Because Monster Crown was too buggy and thats the most recent monster taming game I've played and it was underwhelming on switch.
The game had some crashing issues at launch but they were quickly ironed out in a patch. This game plays like a polished nintendo game now on steam at least. It's nowhere near the awful feeling of monster crown's jittery gameplay. edit: I suck at typing
playing on steam and only issue i’ve had is when I try to stream the game to my friends in discord it makes it crash other than that it’s been completely solid
@@christopherbradley7149 I understand that, but he didnt choose steam because he wanted to its just a LOTT easier to put a game on steam, especially sense nintendo owns switch and coromon might be considered a ripoff to nintendo, who knows
the only thing i am iffy about is the potential system. you touched on it by pointing out how it emphasizes using a perfect mon over the alternatives. for the casual player, this doesn't effect anything, but for competitive it just makes the scene boring. eventually there will come a time where you see nothing but perfect mons there because using anything else is just crippling yourself. i definitely prefer pokemon's way of handling it where there are no actual benefits to being shiny. it means you aren't weaker for not grinding for a shiny and regardless of stats, you will be seeing both standard and shiny forms in the competitive scene. with coromon, you are severely punished for not grinding for a perfect.
On switch you will see perfect mon teams day one. With it being hacked and all. Just like pokemon on switch. Edit: I do agree with you, coromon shiny system is by far the worst when compared to other games and pokemon.
That's a good point about competitive but the fact is that everybody will use perfect mons and basically nullify that disadvantage. In game you can actually limit the mons u catch, like only catching one per area or one per area except potents/perfects. To me that is actually perfect. I'm loving it so far.
@@hilomatrixhd It's literally the worst. It's not a shiny system, it's a stat reflection system. Everyone who has the same stats has the "shiny". By default if you want the best mon Stat wise you are forced into having the "shiny". These are not alternate colors for the mon as they the only color the mon can be when having those stats. That's like saying light or dark forms in monster sanctuary are shinies, or burmy or vivilions in pokemon are shiny. They are just different forms.
This is good because I just brought it today after reading about it. I like it so far. Can’t wait to play more and see if they continue with the game like sequel’s
Looks great - I'll check out the Switch version I think. I've been out of the Pokemon loop for quite a while now and after Sword/Shield genuinely shocked me with how low the quality standard of that series appears to have fallen, I almost gave up on the whole subgenre. Hopefully the indie alternatives do the formula better than its reigning king does.
Hello I am glad I thought that we will get it in android on 31st march but I will just download it in my app Thanks for the INFORMATION Love your videos
This game looks amazing. But a problem with most games is replayability. From what I understood, the game is good but short. If it came out in 2008 I think it would rival Pokémon and digimon but it’s 2022. Unfortunately what will make players spend more time on other Pokémon games, is the amount of monster in the game. 120ish monster is not little, but compared to other games that usually have around the 200-300 monsters, it’s a downside. If the post game has a new map and monsters and possibly a new story with a challenging difficulty, I think it could be bigger than temtem was (even if only for a few days but this game). With more developers and a budget, asking help to the community, etc would boost the development possibly becoming a huge indie game that could become something recognized as a serious game development company. Imo to boost the amount of monsters and playability, they need to make things more public. Compared to the past, what helps people start their own games, is the community. And so, posting designs of new monsters asking for people to basically compete to create the best evolution line, would make people talk about it more. The game has good ideas. Popping in an alien race could also give the developers the opportunity to expand wildly with story ideas and monsters/maps design. Like, these blue aliens have the tec to reach other planets, so, making the MC discover such technology and expand the next games to the stars, would give it an upper hand against big names *coff coff* pokemon *coff coff*, having the opportunity to make areas more interesting and alien like. Sorry for talking so much, I just like these kind of things
This review inspired me to buy the game. The selling point for me was that it has it's version of "shinies", and a difficulty setting. I won't play it for a while, since I'm still shiny hunting in pokemon brilliant diamond, but I will give it a shot eventually.
Today is the day! I almost took the day off to play, but that would've been hell at work XD I'm just sad that the odds of upgrading a potent to perfect are improved (for 19 or less) or nerfed (if you have a 20, it's not longer a 100% chance to be perfect, more like 1/25 based on what Marcel said). But I'm so hyped!!!!!!!
When would the mobile version release? I had completed the demo twice in my now broken phone. I restarted on my new phone and completed it again in 10 hours. I have 4 lvl.25 potents and one perfect. My team are all lvl.25 from fighting Jochem and Marcel.
The Game seems great and all but... Why Coromon of all names? Copyright is still an issue... You know, because Koromon does exist as a Digimon so it is very possible that the name doesn't last much once it becomes very popular in the world
I wanted to save the experience of Coromon so I haven't played the demo. I thought the game was out today, but I've found that the Switch version was delayed and that it will still release on steam today. I checked steam and it's still not available to purchase, only the demo is available. Do you know what might be going on with the delays?
My only feedback is I got stuck with the surfboard when I lost a battle and I never manage to play that file again ... Had to start another and avoid doing the same error
new to yer' channel, yet wondered have ya' covered Pokemon Void? As for Coromon, I think it's a fresh breah of air, added into the mix, love the humor in ut thus far (which I must say, usually doesn't win me over - though this game did it well, and proved me wrong. Love it!)
Just wanted to comment that fossil fighters is a monster game where you fend off alien invaders. Still love this game though. They improved on a lot of the flaws with monster catchers and capitalized on a lot of the missed opportunities of others
It's launching at 9am PST on steam: store.steampowered.com/app/1218210/Coromon/
Switch was delayed for a bit, and mobile is planned for before Summer. No exact dates yet, but I'll keep you guys updated, so make sure to subscribe so you get notified when we get any info on those platforms :)
Thanks so much for watching
Dang my demo is on mobile haha. Guess I'll get switch when it drops
How'd you get the game for free?
It's the 1st of April but coromon hasn't released the full game yet.Or is it just my country
When it will release for Android
is mobile going to have controller support?
It really makes me happy to see a new generation of game developers whose entire motivation boils down to "you ruined my favorite game, so I'm going to make my own version."
Anyway, looks like they're planning cross-platform saves, so I guess I'll be buying this twice. (I actually don't get how that's going to work, but I'm excited for it!)
Fucking finally.
Pokemon had so many tries to drastically improve, so many second chances, so many rabit fans, the sad part is that they will only improve when their bottom line is threatened.
@@Chronically_ChiII dang even wildlife was into the game
The way you described it makes these games sound like they were made out of spite.
@@brawler5760 I don't think the devs share the intensity of spite towards game freak.
They saw an opportunity.
Now it's just to the average consumer to decide what will get from now on.
@@brawler5760 it's out of love for a genre that has been done dirty for over 20 years
The demo won me over a while back but I'm definitely gonna pick up Coromon on the Switch once it releases and get a physical copy.
Same here bro
I kinda doubt it gets a physical realese bc of Nintendo and Nintendo alone.
They will eventually realese It like temtem via download
(Iguess? Never played temtem)
Monster Crown got a Physical release lmao
It will come tomorrow inshallah
It's finally here
Doing my first run of this game on the highest difficulty blind -- I've never had so much fun on a monster-training game.
That's exactly what I'm planning to do, one of my biggest problems with pokemon games was difficulty
@@dman6261if you want difficulty start playing drayano hacks,like geez there are so many difficulty hacks out there and no coromon doesn't get close to Pokemon specially in the Monsters design
3:40 Does no one remember Fossil Fighters? You fend off against alien invaders quite explicitly in that one. The Dinaurians have their home destroyed, and start the process to make earth a habital living space for their race. I know it wasn't that popular of a series and Frontier killed this infant franchise, but I didn't think it was this forgotten.
It's a very niche game sadly
I loved Fossil Fighters 😭
I'm even sadder because no one ever think about Spectrobe
@@PetitTasdeBoue Dude, I really miss Spectrobes. Had so much promise, only to be killed off.
fossil fighters is fucking goated brother. never forget that masterpiece ✊🏻
Coromon is so cool, it reminds me old pokemon games. But with a upgrade in a lot of aspects. You can feel the love in the Coromons itself, soundtracks, story and even minigames. I love the Art and Graphics!!
I remember having a blast with the demo as well as adoring the sprite art/animation, especially Nibblegar! Thanks for the review Ed and hopefully I can pick this game up soon.
2:56 I do love when fantasy and sci-fi converge like this within a story, it shows you can have a vast universe set beyond the boundaries of the initial setting you're set in. Reminds me of how Dragon Ball started out as a fantasy adventure series before expanding into sci-fi and then melded the two much later and seemlessly, so it's cool to see a monster catching setting experiment with this premise
Back during pokemon's prime, no one would give these games as much of a shot.
How the times have changed.
Well those people would've missed out because you can enjoy Pokemon and other games as well.
I think coromon is definetly worth it. The devs interact with the community often and the game itself has such nice graphics and a nice charm to it.
Great review Ed as always you sold the game even more to me now by 100% :)
When i played the demo I found a Potent immediately.
And then near the end of the day i got a perfect.
They were both the same species.
I picked it up moments ago and all your speed up suggestions were in the settings 😂 awesome!
I'm aware they probably weren't a year ago when this video was made it's just nice those are non issues now.
I got back into monster taming games because of Temtem, but because of your channel I got to know Coromon and got instantly hooked! Thanks for introducing it to me! It reminds me of the time I played Pokémon Crystal (my personal favorite Pokémon game) and the other other of the earlier Pokémon games!
I got around to buying coromon couple weeks ago on switch. I enjoy your channel, love monster games. After resetting for about 3 days finally got potent lv20 cubzero. To my surprise I saw your NPC added in the game 😂. That's pretty awesome you should feel proud.
Thank you for the review! The dungeons, puzzels and art are the things that I'm most looking forward to.
2:48 i have played the demo and if you choose the long start and get every qeustion right
the starter that is the most match with the answers will be high potantial
Looks like an interesting game. Won’t get it yet, but will like to keep it in mind.
I admit my biggest concern for Coromon was that it would try to be old school Pokemon but do little to address those early problems which is what killed TemTem dead for me. While I do like the idea of customizing stats I'm not so sure I'm a fan of having shinies being tied to a perfect coromon. Granted I dislike hunting for a "perfect" mon to begin with and prefer to just build up the one I catch from the get go like how it is in SMT V or PL: A Grits. Not ideal, but I can honestly work with it as I'm not quote on quote "hardcore" player of most monster taming games.
I do like the idea of having puzzles in a game which is something I do deeply miss from older Pokemon games, so that is a good enough hook for me and the bonus is that it feels like that you have a purpose outside of just being a PC in the world like you know it being your job in this game which I'm always happy to have going for me. Gives me better motivation to continue the story and helps to mask the hump that a lot of monster training tropes are present.
A lack of a Post-game isn't too much a deal breaker for me as most don't really hold too much of an appeal for me and I can take or leave most if just ignore it entirely. I'll keep an eye out whenmore is added and good on them for making it a free update.
All in all I'll have to play the game myself, but I say that through this review my initial worries have been somewhat soothed. So may pick this up when I tackle my backlog a bit. Thanks Ed.
@Mystic Everything in the game just felt really sluggish and I didn't get much of a sense of purpose to actually go out and explore this world other than "Welp you're old enough to do this now so yeah go on git and scat!"
Plus your rival just feels like being a jerkass because he can be a jerkass. Like instinct feels like there is some pre heel face turn Silver but I had the sinking sensation he is meant to emulate Blue who wasn't *that* stuck up. Nose in the air and a bit smug but not high off his own fumes.
Then the actual training itself is *fine* it serves its purpose but it didn't wow me. I will acknowledge that I only stuck with it for about eight hours, but the game never felt like it really opened up and became interesting and I was ho humming and thinking "I should probably get back to my heartgold nuzlocke"
This next thing isn't related to the original point, but I thought I should mention this. There were times I got slapped with trainer tems with unreasonably high level for the tems I had at the time. On one hand I don't mind this as I figured it was times when the game was going to start opening up and it really didn't. I didn't feel I was rewarded for playing cleverly or even efficently and the fight became a slog I was just happy to have done and over with.
After being disappointed there wasn't anything to do at the school other than some simple side quests I sloughed my way to where the first gym was supposed to be, find out I had to hunt down the first gym leader and the thought of more wandering through trainer battles and wild Temtems killed any interest in playing the game myself cold. I don't mind watching folks that know what their doing play it but I have little to no desire to play the game any further at this point.
@Mystic That's an incredible way to boil down my point to the bare bones. I wish I didn't see it coming, but its the kind of answer I get all the time.
I get that many monster taming games more or less follow similar threads, but not all of them do it equally. With TemTem it doesn't do a good job of masking going through the motions so I was taken out of it several times. In SMT: Strange Journey the atmosphere it builds up in the opening hour before you even get into the game proper and I can go back to that over and over for that point alone.
As for the difficulty I can respect that its the point of it, but TemTem for as long as I stuck with it did not do it in a satisfying nor fun way. There were times it was easy that Tems just fell over and then suddenly they just throw a high level beat stick at you. Like I never got much out of the stamina or charging attacks which while intriguing ideas didn't feel they were implemented well enough that would have me interested in experimenting more with it which is what I meant by the game opening up.
If the rival opens up more later than I'll choose to believe you, I'm not particularly interested in him after that first encounter. Same with the story I'll choose to believe you, but a lot of folks confuse mature content with mature story and game never gave me much of a sense of that.
@Mystic I would argue paying 40 dollars and playing the game for 8 hours is more than a chance. Also as previously stated I agree with the insight that the that my complaints could be leveled at any monster taming game. My issue with the statement is that in my eyes TemTem does a poor job of minimizing its slog of an early game. The characters are not interesting/endearing enough to motivate me to find out more. The battling while it as an interesting wrinkle with attacks that interact with each other you don't get enough temtem (at least for me) that makes it worth experimenting with.
And when I refer to beatsticks it was outside those tutorial fights like one that despite getting a sleep off, debuffing its attack three times and raising defense of a pokemon that taunted it twice it bit through it easily. It was not a crit either.
So like what is the point of using the tools available to me if the game seems to flat out ignore it?
By the time I sloughed up the hill side to where the first gym was I was at the end my interest and when the the game went "oh gym leader isn't here, gotta go find'em" that was my I'm outta here moment.
If the game is this bevy of depth, strategy, tactics and difficulty I believe you. In my experience when I played it TemTem does not do a good enough job to keep me invested to get to that point. Games in monster taming that I do enjoy playing get me over the usual early game grind by either having characters that I like being around and/or a hook that keeps me around long enough so when the game itself really opens up I am invested enough to dive deeper into it.
@Mystic I should have been clear I meant the variety of moves you get at that early point was lacking to try out more combinations of synergy attacks so it wasn't piquing my interest. That's what I get for making a post on a phone at like 3 am.
I don't know if I'm up to give TemTem a second chance, but I will acknowledge the period I played was July 2020 after what I think is its first major island update. I will also give maybe having a co-op partner will make the experience more tolerable and I have a good friend that does like the game.
Yeah the game needs a few things. x1.5 or x2 speed up animation and or an option to disable attack animations
Yup combat Animation is too slow and i barely feel the impact of my attacks
I absolutely love this game. Commenting to keep the algorithm happy. This game slaps. Great story, great mons, it's just perfect.
I got this 4 days ago and just finished it today. I was not expecting to get as addicted as I did. Loved the designs, there was never one that I really disliked. Never one that felt out of place imo even with ones I was not a big fan of. Felt ending was rush but considering this was the first game I was totaly content with it. Still room for improvement and did have my fare share of frustrations with game design but all in all loved the experience.
P.S. Nibblegar best sharkboy
Nice Review Ed, I'm definitely picking this up when it gets on the switch.
Your play through got me to try game demo on stream. I fall in love the game play and now planinng on getting the full game. Keep up the good work 👍
"If you were a fan of a lot of the quips present in Nexomon, you'll be right at home here." That's all you had to tell me.
I’m almost 20 hours into this game and I absolutely love it!
Riiiight? It's so awesomee!!✨😌I only played the demo do u have the switch version?
Ok I’m getting it because that shark Pokémon looked fucking badass
you know what i love about DS era pokemon gens? no frame drops, no lag and no lack in graphics, since its pixels
And they're beautiful pixels too
Pokemon and 3D all cool for me but I 100% agree that the pixel era was the dopest for my taste. It just looks soo cute and lets some space for your imagination to add the fine details to it.
looks much better than nowaday's pokemon
i played gen 9, 8 and 7 in this order and in every game i wanted to stop playing bevor i even completed half of the games. I swear the 3d pokemon games are ass, im never touching them again
@@Hdjdhdhhdhh tbh i enjoyed X/Y and the ORAS which was in 3D... but it all went downhill from there
@@Amfibios Yes thats true, Not all of the 3d Games Are Bad But gen 9,8 and 7 Are just horrible
@@Hdjdhdhhdhh yeah... i've been playing since Gen1 and i was afraid i'd outgrow them. in the end they became shit instead and i stopped playing anyway
@@Amfibios Gen 1, 2, 3 are the best.
the first time i played the demo which i absolutely loved, just got me into the game, it got me waiting for the full version (it felt like decades since coromon kept promising to release it early on android, while they did release it, it was only on steam) this game was gold i absolutely had fun playing this game, very recommended
Finished the game in 5-6 hours. Although its basically pokemon (but not), you can tell there was a lot of love and work put into the game so definitely worth the price.
Lmao impossible
Bro was casually speedrunning the game 😂
Great review! I'm maybe halfway through the game myself, having picked it up during this Steam Winter Sale and loving it so far. Your video just happened to pop up! The game really does remind me of older Pokemon games for the GBA/DS for all the right reasons. This was the right game for me personally as I was looking for another alternative to Pokemon after finishing the story in Temtem.
The music is so damn good, I'll be honest in that using that particular battle track as your background music for your review was a tad bit distracting, haha. I am a huge fan of pixel art, especially since this style matches the old Pokemon games so well!
The combat system is somewhat of a blend of Pokemon and Temtem, although it lacks Temtem's strategic choices in favor of just its stamina management. I'm in favor of this system over Pokemon's Power Point system, although IMO Coromon doesn't really utilize it to its full potential. I think Temtem uses stamina with a bit more strategy since you have a second Temtem on the field at all times, while Coromon plays it extremely safe. I think there is room for further improvement, but what we have from these games are absolutely solid ideas and a good gameplay loop.
The only thing I didn't really like so far is when you run into situations where your Coromon is stuck fighting 1v2 or 1v3. But overall, I enjoyed the boss fights and the gameplay so far. I found it a bit funny how Coromon tries to justify your job as a "Battle Researcher", so you are dispatched out on your adventure instead of just being a ten year old kid, given a pokedex and thrown out of your house to go on an adventure.
As far as endgame goes, for a lot of players like myself, we really don't stick around very long if there aren't new areas or story added to continue the journey onwards. That's not a failing on a game. All stories will end at some point. It is the time that we spend enjoying the journey with our monster pals that truly matters.
Shine Bright!
Friend: "What are you laughing of?"
Wubonian: "Crimsonite is love, Crimsonite Is life."
Me: *Whezees*
'no more shiny that sucks' - those that realy a problem? In main series pokemon you can easily change to similar to best with bottle cup, with is common. The same with EV and nature. In pokemon go there is lucky system that encourage to have friends.
Hey Ed, just wanna know how distinctives coromon full ver from the demo? Are there like any major changes like item you get after you complete certain quests?
Still no answer....
@@TheDragonfriday İt's okay tho...
coromon is in my top three games to play right now
Sounds like a good foundation for them, looking forward to play it.
Hopefully they add a speed up option in the future, since the speed seems to be a common criticism. Also I think they could address the limitations of the Potential system discouraging the use of the lower rarity color scheme by making it so higher rarity color schemes can switch their appearance to the lower rarity ones in PvP
Bro if they do though, it would be a great detail on the game
That would be a great way to trick your opponent in PVP lol
@@nazeersadek6705 In serious PvP I’m certain most will just end up using the Perfect variants. Since they’re objectively better combat wise. So I’m not really sure how it can trick the opponent.
@@dangernoodle5831 if you’re using a perfect with a potent color for example your opponent will be tricked in the damage calculating aspects where they’ll think they can survive an attack or be able to ko your Coromon when they won’t
@@nazeersadek6705 What they're saying is that it wouldn't trick people, as they'd always expect a perfect variant and calculate accordingly, no matter the colour scheme, as there is no reason not to use a perfect variant as they are just objectively better, and I completely agree, I'd have said it myself if they hadn't
Convinced and subbed! Looking forward to get thru your contents and upcoming ones. Thank you Gym Leader Ed
I was already sold on buying the game but now my hype has reached very high levels 😁 here’s hoping the delay on the switch port isn’t a big one
I really liked this game. I never finished it, as I got stuck needing to do some heavy exp grinding for my team at a certain point.
However before I needed to do that grind, I was progressing steadily (sometimes slowly, sometimes fast) and doing amazing.
Absolutely love a lot of the unique mechanics. Plus there are plenty of things vaguely similar to mechanics in other Monster Taming games.
Surprisingly, the mechanics are not only things I've noticed in Pokemon, but also other Monster Taming Games as well that made things that aren't in Pokemon.
The game is so very good and I do reccomend it.
Started playing this game yesterday and it's awesome. Found you in the game btw Ed lol.
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Dude, me and Switch are super ready for this game.
Reminds me of Monster Sanctuary ever heard of that one thats an indie game developed by Team17 who did the Worms games which are a turn based strategy game even Monster Sanctuary as that is based on the pixelated Pokémon from Red, Blue and Yellow up to Black 2 and White 2 versions.
It IS the best looking monster taming game I’ve seem.
Visually-wise, it just makes me sad though that some attacks that are supposed to come from the coromon actually come from off-screen of all places, as f the is someone outside the ring giving a hand.
Thanks Ed!
Aye thanks or watching clemmy!
Just bought this game thanks to a sale on the Epic store. Excited to play it!
the viva la dirt league reference made me got the game!
Sold.
Can't wait to play
Getting a Perfect Coromon is actually kind of a 3 in 3000-ish so pretty much 1 in 1000.
I got a potent swurmy in my first 10 min of playing
I can't wait for this to come to Switch.
Great review. how long would the game be for doing all content?
i've played 2 games tagged as "creature collector" Nexomon Extinction(35hrs) and Monster Sanctuary(50hrs). I enjoyed both.
I enjoyed Nexomons customization for new game+ function(Wish Monster Sanctuary had this function). Large amount of monsters but not as diverse in terms of monster skills.
I enjoyed Monster Sanctuary' team based monsters, skills and customization(Wish Nexomon had this flexiblity), fantastic mix and match and they have alternative light and dark versions of the monster to reflect skills and stats even though their monster count is way less than Nexomons.
hiii i have played monster sanctuary too. is it coromon worth it?
I've waited sooooo long for it's full release
Man it looks so good, I haven't tried it but its certainly appealing
Really unfortunate to hear it got delayed on switch til who knows when. Is it relatively bug free? Because Monster Crown was too buggy and thats the most recent monster taming game I've played and it was underwhelming on switch.
The game had some crashing issues at launch but they were quickly ironed out in a patch. This game plays like a polished nintendo game now on steam at least. It's nowhere near the awful feeling of monster crown's jittery gameplay.
edit: I suck at typing
Yeah I feel like if any version should have had first release it's the Switch version.
playing on steam and only issue i’ve had is when I try to stream the game to my friends in discord it makes it crash other than that it’s been completely solid
when is the full release for Android?
@@christopherbradley7149 I understand that, but he didnt choose steam because he wanted to its just a LOTT easier to put a game on steam, especially sense nintendo owns switch and coromon might be considered a ripoff to nintendo, who knows
I got it for like two dollars haven’t tried it yet but definitely looking forward to it
the only thing i am iffy about is the potential system. you touched on it by pointing out how it emphasizes using a perfect mon over the alternatives. for the casual player, this doesn't effect anything, but for competitive it just makes the scene boring. eventually there will come a time where you see nothing but perfect mons there because using anything else is just crippling yourself. i definitely prefer pokemon's way of handling it where there are no actual benefits to being shiny. it means you aren't weaker for not grinding for a shiny and regardless of stats, you will be seeing both standard and shiny forms in the competitive scene. with coromon, you are severely punished for not grinding for a perfect.
On switch you will see perfect mon teams day one. With it being hacked and all. Just like pokemon on switch.
Edit: I do agree with you, coromon shiny system is by far the worst when compared to other games and pokemon.
there is a potential boosting system, but I don't know how exactly it works
That's a good point about competitive but the fact is that everybody will use perfect mons and basically nullify that disadvantage. In game you can actually limit the mons u catch, like only catching one per area or one per area except potents/perfects. To me that is actually perfect. I'm loving it so far.
@@silverfang215 are you guys all joking? Its by far the best Shiny System in any pokemon/fake
@@hilomatrixhd It's literally the worst. It's not a shiny system, it's a stat reflection system. Everyone who has the same stats has the "shiny". By default if you want the best mon Stat wise you are forced into having the "shiny". These are not alternate colors for the mon as they the only color the mon can be when having those stats.
That's like saying light or dark forms in monster sanctuary are shinies, or burmy or vivilions in pokemon are shiny. They are just different forms.
This is good because I just brought it today after reading about it. I like it so far. Can’t wait to play more and see if they continue with the game like sequel’s
This game is so addicting. I just got it and can't believe how under hyped it is.
impatiently awaiting the switch release
Looks great - I'll check out the Switch version I think. I've been out of the Pokemon loop for quite a while now and after Sword/Shield genuinely shocked me with how low the quality standard of that series appears to have fallen, I almost gave up on the whole subgenre. Hopefully the indie alternatives do the formula better than its reigning king does.
I wish it didn’t get delayed for Switch :’(
Hello I am glad I thought that we will get it in android on 31st march but I will just download it in my app Thanks for the INFORMATION
Love your videos
This is by far one of the best looking Fakemon game and I dig the 2d DS like art style.
You have to fend off aliens in fossil fighters. That's a monster taming game that comes to mind for this.
i buy this game in last week and im completely addicted. I need PvP, now!!!
I just wish it released on more than just steam today
Should've delayed this video until April 1 and just come out like "No ThIs GaMe SucKs" just to send everyone into a panic
Agree
oh wow I used to play this game before it was finished and I'm so excited!
This game looks amazing. But a problem with most games is replayability. From what I understood, the game is good but short. If it came out in 2008 I think it would rival Pokémon and digimon but it’s 2022. Unfortunately what will make players spend more time on other Pokémon games, is the amount of monster in the game. 120ish monster is not little, but compared to other games that usually have around the 200-300 monsters, it’s a downside. If the post game has a new map and monsters and possibly a new story with a challenging difficulty, I think it could be bigger than temtem was (even if only for a few days but this game). With more developers and a budget, asking help to the community, etc would boost the development possibly becoming a huge indie game that could become something recognized as a serious game development company. Imo to boost the amount of monsters and playability, they need to make things more public. Compared to the past, what helps people start their own games, is the community. And so, posting designs of new monsters asking for people to basically compete to create the best evolution line, would make people talk about it more. The game has good ideas. Popping in an alien race could also give the developers the opportunity to expand wildly with story ideas and monsters/maps design. Like, these blue aliens have the tec to reach other planets, so, making the MC discover such technology and expand the next games to the stars, would give it an upper hand against big names *coff coff* pokemon *coff coff*, having the opportunity to make areas more interesting and alien like. Sorry for talking so much, I just like these kind of things
It looks cute and fun for Pokemon fans.
Aight im convinced. Buying it on steam!
Megalobite back is thicc
I found a perfect moffel yesterday while training my potent moffel I was so happy 😭😭😭
Looks amazing!
Also is a good game
I've been WAITING FOR THIS YES
Awesome! I'm definitely picking it up.
Damn. Was looking forward to playing this on my Switch.
Same
I know but on the bright side I'm working on a ton of guides already so when switch pops, you'll be able to look up a bunch of stuff day 1😍
Might pick this up, though will have to wait. Kind of busy with no money right now.
Coromon has much better monster design than pokemon
Already bought the steam version! Worth it!
When is the mobile version
being released?!
This review inspired me to buy the game. The selling point for me was that it has it's version of "shinies", and a difficulty setting. I won't play it for a while, since I'm still shiny hunting in pokemon brilliant diamond, but I will give it a shot eventually.
"Shiny hunting" aka wasting your life indoors waking back and forth between some tiles to feel a false sense of accomplishment
@@asmith9554 lol
Today is the day! I almost took the day off to play, but that would've been hell at work XD I'm just sad that the odds of upgrading a potent to perfect are improved (for 19 or less) or nerfed (if you have a 20, it's not longer a 100% chance to be perfect, more like 1/25 based on what Marcel said). But I'm so hyped!!!!!!!
I love the feature that you can have a random starter
When would the mobile version release?
I had completed the demo twice in my now broken phone. I restarted on my new phone and completed it again in 10 hours. I have 4 lvl.25 potents and one perfect. My team are all lvl.25 from fighting Jochem and Marcel.
Ty for the review!! im amazed, specially with the pixel vibe im not gonna buy the new pokemon im passing to coromon jaja
Pokemon Scarlet and Violet are great games.
4:16 the tiger looks a lot like the beta pokemon from gold/silver
That coromon was a fan made design that won a competition and got to be in the game.
Looks better than Pokemon.
The Game seems great and all but... Why Coromon of all names? Copyright is still an issue... You know, because Koromon does exist as a Digimon so it is very possible that the name doesn't last much once it becomes very popular in the world
Nice, once i finish all pokemons in german to learn the lenguage, i will buy this game too
I wanted to save the experience of Coromon so I haven't played the demo. I thought the game was out today, but I've found that the Switch version was delayed and that it will still release on steam today. I checked steam and it's still not available to purchase, only the demo is available. Do you know what might be going on with the delays?
Cheack again around 9am pacific
@@SuperSonicXXX ahhh okay. I'll check in a bit
My only feedback is I got stuck with the surfboard when I lost a battle and I never manage to play that file again ... Had to start another and avoid doing the same error
Played the demo last march and liked it, didn't beat it tho. bought it yesterday and got up to the Mr.mind door puzzle, refunded it after that.
lmfao i have a guide going over how to do that coming soon. It's not that hard
So you refunded an awesome game because you have the IQ of a teaspoon and the patience of a toddler? gotcha!
Damn fr? Its literally so easy you just have to use your brain.
new to yer' channel, yet wondered have ya' covered Pokemon Void? As for Coromon, I think it's a fresh breah of air, added into the mix, love the humor in ut thus far (which I must say, usually doesn't win me over - though this game did it well, and proved me wrong. Love it!)
I Love this Game so much 🥰
Just wanted to comment that fossil fighters is a monster game where you fend off alien invaders. Still love this game though. They improved on a lot of the flaws with monster catchers and capitalized on a lot of the missed opportunities of others
Honestly the EV system in Pokemon has always baffled me cause it's not hard to fix, kinda surprised GF hasn't touched that damn thing until Arceus.
Awesome 😎 video coromon looks awesome
What about mobile release?
A shame that the switch version was delayed. Really excited to play this.
I download android version last year and I really like the game just finished demo play and I just doing level ups in all my coromons