Splice vs Loopcloud 5 - Which is best?
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- Опубліковано 22 жов 2019
- In this video I take a look at both Splice and Loopcloud 5 to see which is the best sample site for me, hopefully it'll help you if you're in the same situation! This isn't really a Splice or Loopcloud 5 review, just a list of pros & cons for both with the aim to figure out which comes out on top!
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Dirty Secretz hows the squid?
@@rasheedgooden4415 I love it, it's my main midi controller now ua-cam.com/video/5UsllCSmpU4/v-deo.html
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I've tried both myself, LC is now incredible , having 8 tracks , FX, tuning , tempo change and syncing and live previewing to your project is simply brilliant!
I feel like the only thing lc is lacking in is quality tracks, to me, splice is Definitely the better of the 2 in terms of quality samples .
Very helpful. You explain everything very well!! Tks
Amazing information, thanks!
thanks for a great review and video! I work at Loopmasters/Loopcloud and its really useful to get your impressions of both services. We are sorry you experienced some slowness and network issues, we found an issue which we have resolved last weekend and we are also working hard to ensure the best speed no matter where you are in the world. New updates and improvements are coming every day and all feedback is welcomed. Also regarding the content that is of course a personal preference, but we think that we have the best! If anyone has any doubts, please do check our free trial, and remember there is a free version for everyone. Happy music making to all, and thanks to this great channel for your support.
Cool, great to hear you’ve managed to fix that as it was a bit frustrating. I do think the Loopmasters content is great, I have been buying the packs for years but for some reason I just have found the search getting to the samples I want quicker on Splice than Loopcloud - I think it’s just me getting used to how it all works.
@@DirtySecretz i think its due to us having over 3.5 million sounds from over 15 years in the business, we are currently overhauling our genres and tag structure to make finding the right sound faster and easier. Loopcloud is evolving on a weekly basis, and I agree with you that its not as immediate as Splice, but we are aiming for deeper integration into your workflow which comes with additional layers. Your idea of a simple version with some functions invisible is interesting, we will have a think about that for future updates as Loopcloud continues to evolve... thanks again for taking the time to shine a light on what we are doing.
Matt Pelling oh totally understand that, that’s a massive undertaking - I’ve got a collection going back a couple of decades and I don’t think I’d have the patience to go & tag all that lol. Keep up the good work though, it’s great to see the innovation and as I say, I’m a paid up subscriber so I’m gonna keep using it! Will try out some of the the instruments soon :)
I wish Loopcloud could fix playing loops or one-shots when using two monitors. For example, if I use my laptop monitor for Loppcloud, and use my second monitor for my DAW with the Loopcloud plugin, I have to click the play loop (Loopcloud), and then click anywhere on my second monitor for the loop to play. Now, if I move Loopcloud to my second monitor the same problem occurs. My production is slowed down by clicking between the two monitors. Sometimes I an error when trying to play loops. My DAW is Studio One 4.
%1 Loopcloud
%99 Crash Error
Great vid, wish you mentioned a price comparison though as that wouldn't have taken more than 15 seconds. Subbed.
In my opinion Loopcloud 5 is a huge step forward (also in the free mode). If they can get rid of the mentioned teething troubles it's quite perfect for me.
Yeah definitely has improved since the early days, good to see!
and the pay per use vs a monthly subscription on splice is also a winner.
I still use Soundfonts and those are kind of like my samples if I get tired of using VSTs. It takes too long to sift through unique loops and one-shots on Splice and Loopcloud.
So glad you made this video. I had the same experience with early loopmaster. Its good to see the improvements. I am with splice now, I do wish splice had that DAW connection also. Is it still 1point for a one shot and 2 points for loops on loopcloud?
I have also seen samples which cost 4 credits. Don't know exactly what the pattern is.
Not quite sure on that, the only thing I can think is that the sample maker can choose a certain level for their samples maybe so they can get more commission
@@DirtySecretz I get that, I am sure making samples is an art as much as mixing them. But in the long run for someone like me who is having to be conscious of cost while getting music off the ground. I think the cost behind Splice is a better fit at first at least. I wasn't overly impressed with some of the samples that were quickly skipped by enough to pay upwards of 4 credits for them. I could see if the samples were head and shoulders over splice. But it doesn't seem so.
90% of one shots are 1 point, and loops 2 points... there are some exceptions ie full acapellas or very long evolving sounds, bu most conform to this method.
Splice has amazing packs, but it’s a pitty the lack of ability to listen the samples in context.
TIP: In the Loopcloud preferences you can set it to show your library by default instead of the store. (If that's annoying/overwhelming to you)
Great points here. Really practical thoughts about it. How’s the latest Loopcloud vs. Splice?
Well app vs app, Loopcloud is definitely still winning - there are so many features in it now. However when it comes do sample collection, it's really down to which you like more which is totally a personal preference. For me, I don't think I _need_ a lot of the features in the loopcloud software - I'm happy doing all that within my DAW, I just want a way to preview the loops in time with my track. Loopcloud still edges this - the new Splice Bridge plugin helps but still searching via the app Loopcloud is a better experience, I still head to the browser to find samples on Splice because it's just a better experience. I think it's still personal opinion though - it's whichever you like the most, I don't think either is the wrong choice.
HOW DID YOU GET THAT SPLICE FOLDER !! I CANT FIND IT :(((( I've been having to manually drag and drop all the damn samples in their coordinated spots .
If you're on a Mac, go to your user folder and the 'Splice' folder should be in there - not sure where abouts it is on a PC though. If you go to the Splice app, mouse over any sample and to the right of any sample in there you'll see 3 dots - click on them and it'll pop up with the option 'Open Enclosing Folder'. Then just go up a few folders and you'll find the Splice folder.
Dirty Secretz awesome man thanks ! when i download new samples do they automatically upload into the Splice Folder ?
4reely yeah they all automatically download in there (or should do anyway!)
i'm paying for serum through splice so yeah i use that.
is there anyway u can preview without the watermark i know theyneed to have that on there for copyright reasons but the birds are starting to annoy me
As far as I know, no you can't - otherwise people would just be able to resample the preview playing. I don't blame them though, I can't think of another way they could get around it.
No, because people would just steal them
Get into lofi
but can I use this in my beat exclusive?
How do you mean?
Thx 4 video, any idea to remove bird when playing sound?
That's a watermark to stop you using a sample that you haven't paid for. You still get an idea of how it'll sound in your mix and if it works you can go ahead and purchase it, that'll remove it
@@DirtySecretz Quick reply, appreciate it
Use both
playing and modifying the sample in time with your project...no brainer loopcloud wins.
Sample quality is king
Interface is cluttered on loopcloud
I wish Loopcloud could fix playing loops or one-shots when using two monitors. For example, if I use my laptop monitor for Loppcloud, and use my second monitor for my DAW with the Loopcloud plugin, I have to click the play loop (Loopcloud), and then click anywhere on my second monitor for the loop to play.
Hey, @Dirty Secretz, just curious if you've chosen to stick with one or the other? I just signed up for Splice, but I didn't know Loopcloud existed. Splice is nice, but I do like the VST integration of LC, as well as, the LM collection. One thing I feel you missed was the rent-to-own option for VST synths of Splice. Does LC have that?
Do you happen to know if you can buy the sample pack out right for a certain price? I tried to "Get Pack" on Splice, and it might be 600 credits (more than my current monthly), and do they just add on the extra cost for that pack to your monthly? Have you or any one had any experience with buying a whole pack?
I might just keep both for a few months and see which I gravitate towards, but curious which you stuck with.
I’ve kept with Splice as for me I think the sounds are better on there. The reason I didn’t talk about the rent-to-own is that the main focus was samples for this video and also the renting to own feature obviously costs extra. It is a great feature though and I’ve bought a few instruments that way. If you want to buy the full pack you just need to wait until you’ve saved up enough credits or I think you can buy a top up - however my tip would be to filter by the type of sounds you want in the pack and just download those. For example, you could filter by drum sounds (which might be 1/4 of the pack) and then hit the download all button for them. That’s what I tend to do as there are generally certain folders within a sample pack I probably won’t use.
What's that black box in front of you?
Pioneer Toraiz Squid, it's a midi sequencer
@@DirtySecretz thanx
There is no choice IMO : I use both of them : Splice for the download samples and Loopcloud in order to edit them !
I use and love both. But the way Loopcloud automatically time stretches or shrinks to play samples in time is just next level. If it were subscription based, I wouldn’t need splice. But the way you have to buy credits is too expensive.
Yes the Loopcloud integration with DAWs is awesome, fingers crossed that'll be coming to Splice soon!
It is subscription based, they just allow certain credits based on that. The $11.99 plan offers like 300 credits a day, which is massive I think. I was looking into this and didnt understand the credit system until I watched this. I think 300 downloads is more than enough, even 100. If you have a specific project going. Plus the included cloud storage. I’d rather pay for this than Netflix or Hulu lol
FanaticalDrummer I used it for a long time. The samples are more expensive using credits. I get 300 per month on Splice.
The simple fact you cannot "select all" in Splice within a pack has always bugged me. You can deselect all but not select... For example if you like 95% of a pack but you don't want to waste credits on the 5 or 6 samples you don't want, you've got to select the hundreds you want, instead of simply deselecting 5 or 6 with a few clicks. Super basic functionality just glaringly missing. Meh. But regardless I stick with Splice for quality content.
I think as an old school producer who saw this coming, we can all agree, its so much nicer to own your sample libraries offline. I use a ton of sample magic stuff, and Lm, i just much rather owning a license, as my taste changes a lot, i think I have more than enough samples for a lifetime. One day I might create my own cloud service via plugin, with my own sounds of course.
I totally get what you're saying, my sample collection goes back decades yet I still hunt online for new stuff all the time. Ironic really as most sounds are coming back around and I've probably already got them somewhere on my hard drive lol
I do that with ADSR Sample Manager. It's not tied to the cloud.
Loopcloud is the best for me.
Pricing comparison?
Their pricing is around the same which is why I didn't really mention it, the base package is about $7.99 for both - which you get 100 credits, again the same for both. There are different levels of plan but for most I think the base level works fine. It's really down to the library of sounds and features of both.
Dirty Secretz I meant the different costs such as with Splice it's I believe 1 credit per sample or loop, while Loopcloud can be up to 4. Just finished yesterday the trial.
The Dude 3000 ah ok, yes with Splice it’s fairly simple - 1 sample 1 credit but with Loopmasters they start at 1 credit and go up depending on the sample. I think it has something to do with who makes the pack. In those terms Splice does look better value but it really all depends on which catalogue of sounds you like more.
Still 2 years later can't use the splice app inside my daw.. That's crazy
Have you tried Splice Bridge?
@@DirtySecretz lol I didn't even know it was a thing! Very new to all this and subscribed to splice recently. Trying to learn evething at once and it's mind boggling lol 😂 gone with loopcloud now as it's on offer think it was £29 for a while year! 😁
Splice is great, however their vocals could do with upgrading & some deleted every so often. Reason is I hear tracks that are using the same samples. Definitely recommend Splice tho
It's definitely hard to find a good, unused vocal sample but that is the problem with using something a lot of other producers use. I think if you're looking for vocal samples it's fine as usually you can manipulate them to create something a bit more unique but never going to compare to getting a singer/songwriter to do a proper top line.
Hey Richie. would you like to do a guest mix for my podcast on mixcloud? I would like other artists to promote. and given i cant always do a monthly mix. it would help me with consistent uploads. so yeah. id love to have u on. its still early days for the show with just 2 recorded. but it would be great to have you on! even for an 'hour of power' mix. ; ) i usualy do a monthly mix for an hour or maybe 1 and a half. with newer tracks and stuff. but ideally i would like active producers. and yeah. i want the show to just be monthly. and have 1 quality mix per month. peace
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You mentioned that you couldn't preview your LoopCloud sounds in your DAW, synced with your music. With LoopCloud 5 you have to install the AU as an instrument track in your DAW then you can do all of that. Just an FYI.
I was talking about Splice, you can’t preview sounds synced with your DAW with that - I showed in the video you can do it with Loopcloud 5
I don’t even get how ppl work with samples in the sense of finding like, a bass guitar loop in G major, and close to the tempo, there’s only like 5 to chose from. I almost never find an option that fits. You basically have to begin with the samples and go from there. I’d say anyone, even a total beginner, is gonna have a better time with a free sampler like sforzando/zampler and MIDI packs or a generative MIDI plugin like Audiomodern Riffer, harvest plugins, scaler, captain chords, venomode phrasebox, etc.
Free samples are everywhere so if you’re reading this and are open to some other ideas than loop subscriptions, I’d look into a setup like:
- sforzando
- free sample packs
- audiomodern riffer + Playbeat
I agree in many ways, I think starting from a sample can be a great way of getting an idea going but having an idea and then trying to find something to then match it can be harder. Generally the only times I hit sample site are for inspiration (i.e. right at the start) or when I'm trying to find those finishing touches - so once I've got a melody/bassline down then finding a vocal, FX or other melodic feature. When searching sample sites I think you almost need to have an open mind as to what you want to find because I may _think_ I want a guitar however I might find a synth line that works well. That's often why when I'm searching for samples I'll just filter by key and often leave the instrument type open, can be interesting what you find.
His hands tho
My apologies, I’m fu*ked up
%1 Loopcloud
%99 Crash Error
Loopmasters went hard on splice
December 2020....Loopcloud is WAY better than Splice. Loopcloud stepped up their game since this video was made.
IMO.......#1 Loopcloud.....#2 Output Arcade. Splice is out.
Mo' subscriptions mo' problems lol.
Many not women voices i hear ;-)
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Found an 11min long video of the same subject so i'm not bothering with your month long video :)
Sure, I can understand that - you probably need that extra time you saved to comment on all the other videos you haven't watched, must be exhausting.
Why be a negative Nancy?
Every youtubers and comments says LC is better, and every youtubers uses Splice. Hum...Okey.
UA-camrs are still people lol. This is just my opinion as even though the app is far better with Loopcloud, for me the content on Splice is better purely just for the sound I’m after.
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It would definitely give me something to do with my over active hands! haha
this is old - loopcloud is better
Fuckin 3 min intro
the app for splice SUCKS
I just cancelled my Splice subscription after about a year and a half. Splice has seen a steady decline in quality and content, and seems to almost exclusively cater to the kids that make "Trap" (whatever the f- that is) by using pre-made loops. Also, they have not released any new presets for Sylenth1 or Serum for a very long time. And the last nail in the coffin is their involvement in politics and the "Support Black Creators" thing.
I do not want to give my money to such a shitty company anymore, so i'm hoping Loopmasters is the place i am looking for.