The History Of Shadow | Ken Wilber & Corey W. deVos

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  • Опубліковано 17 лип 2020
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    Watch as Ken offers a stunning overview of the psychological shadow, emerging first in the work of Sigmund Freud and Carl Jung and then further unpacked by human potential pioneers like Stan Grof and Frtiz Perls. Ken describes several different kinds of shadow - projection, introjection, and retroflection - and how each of these represents a particular breakdown in the subject/object relationship.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 76

  • @tatevikghabazyan1483
    @tatevikghabazyan1483 Рік тому +3

    Love Ken Wilber ❤️I've been following his integral meditation from 2019. It's gave a new purpose to my life.

  • @Magik1369
    @Magik1369 10 місяців тому +2

    Love Ken and have been reading his material for 20 years. The shadow work is key and in my opinion is the greatest opportunity for growth. As shadow contents are purged and healed, the ego becomes integrated with what Sri Aurobindo called the Psychic Being,or personal evolving Soul. It's important not to skip over or bypass the Soul work. The Soul is who you are. The Spirit is what you are. The 2 aspects must be married and fully integrated.

  • @rebeccasunderland4323
    @rebeccasunderland4323 3 роки тому +4

    Just found him today 🙏🙏what a true blessing! So Grateful ❤️❤️🦋

  • @Nandreassf
    @Nandreassf 2 роки тому +3

    Love Ken Wilber, he literally changed my life... I wish there was more content in spanish.

  • @Suocasa29
    @Suocasa29 3 роки тому +8

    He reminds me of David Bowie with this hair... just discovered this amazing man. Thanks for existing

  • @maciej.ratajczak
    @maciej.ratajczak 3 роки тому +7

    23:43 - Most people don't know this about Freud, and that is we hear so-called Freudian terms like 'ego' and 'id', but the fact is Freud himself never used the word 'ego' or 'id' ever. Those terms were put in his work by his official translator James Strachey, and Strachey did it because these are Latin terms and he thought it made Freud sound more scientific, if you use those terms. What Freud actually wrote was the German for the 'It' and the 'I' and that's what he would actually write.
    28:13 - In fact Freud had already announced that Carl Jung was, and these were Freuds terms, 'my Crown Prince and Successor'. He completely selected Jung as the successor to Freud.
    36:47 - This is where we tend to have the earliest defense mechanisms: projection or introjection. So here, because the boundary is so fluid, you can internalize stuff from the exterior world very very easily, and it's very common to introject parental judgements or parental repressions or dissociations, and so that can be a problem, and then also because the boundary is very loose, you can take material that belongs on the inside of the self and you can shove it to the other side of the boundary and that's projection.
    43:18 - The only problem with defense mechanisms is they don't really work; and so defense mechanisms bring about that which they were meant to ward off.

  • @Bojan_V
    @Bojan_V 4 роки тому +3

    So nice to hear Ken an Corey talking about shadow issues. For me, the reintegration of the repressed shadow is the hardest thing to do, and yet it is the only way to be healed and whole again.
    And racism is so prevalent here in Slovenia, especialy in the rural area where i live. There are Roma people( gypsys) nearby and many "civilians", as they call us, simply don't like them even do they live here already 700 years. Many racists go to catholic church, but they are not bothered by being racists. No surprise. People even don't like Jews and they never had any experience with them! This is in part the legacy of the catholic church, which for centuries was spreading hate about Jews. And so here we are. Time to practice some serious shadow work!
    Thank you.

    • @PANOP123
      @PANOP123 4 роки тому +2

      I hear you. We have our own mix of cultural shadows here in Canada too. I would guess all countries share many of the relative shadows with some variations or unique shadows based on history, religion, geography, etc.

  • @PANOP123
    @PANOP123 4 роки тому +6

    Some brilliant insights, including the concepts of relative and absolute shadow.

  • @joyamdemikeal9448
    @joyamdemikeal9448 3 роки тому +3

    It’s great culture, value and almost a scientific religion that can improve our humanity and lead us to peaceful existence.
    I see the possibility for the way to personal growth, want to study more

  • @johnbrown4568
    @johnbrown4568 4 роки тому +10

    Great to see Ken back and to hear about a good recovery is awesome!
    God's blessings to all...

  • @noellecuisine8912
    @noellecuisine8912 Рік тому

    ❤love to see this interview and happy to see you well!

  • @mariekirby1683
    @mariekirby1683 4 роки тому +6

    Thank you, Ken and Corey. Love that you're back. Indeed a very timely topic.

  • @kurtishannas2573
    @kurtishannas2573 4 роки тому +1

    this is gold... solid

  • @simonaschmidt
    @simonaschmidt 4 роки тому +1

    V interesting. Thank you.

  • @pilargarcia6724
    @pilargarcia6724 10 місяців тому

    Muchísimas gracias!!!🙏😊🩵

  • @Lily-xj3cj
    @Lily-xj3cj 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you so much for this material. Which book of Ken Wilber talk about shadow in details?

  • @handyalley2350
    @handyalley2350 4 роки тому +1

    Ken looks great!

  • @Jazzgriot
    @Jazzgriot 3 роки тому +3

    Nice one guys, good to hear about Ken's recovery. Keep up the good work Corey.

  • @bodor.o.c.k.s4938
    @bodor.o.c.k.s4938 3 роки тому +3

    Hy Corey and Ken. Dear Ken , very nice to see you . With Energy. Your last two books ( Trump ...and Religion ... ) only arrived here in English . Now I am unfortunately forced to learn English . But I learn and learn ...It ' s too exciting . P.s. I wish you good health ( and Corey too ) . Greetings from a little chaotic Germany ( too , at the moment ? ) across the univer....sorry , atlantic . P.s . 2 : to funny, Ken 's gesture helps me to learn .

  • @betsys76
    @betsys76 Рік тому +1

    Now recent science shows we can change our thoughts through practice of yoga and rewire our brains as Dr. Joe Dispenza discusses currently. So many advances in our consciousness.

  • @edwardkasimir8016
    @edwardkasimir8016 4 роки тому +11

    Ken's wig was the elephant in the room during this whole conversation. How ironic.

    • @DarkMoonDroid
      @DarkMoonDroid 3 роки тому

      Edward, you nailed it.
      I've long wished he would demonstrate Shadow Work with some of his own material in real time, but no. He has one lame example of how he liked to boss other people around (a long time ago, y'know) and ran a 3-2-1 process on it. Safe distance away.
      If you've followed him for any length of time, it comes on us to work with the material and notice how we haven't been able to integrate the quality we perceive in him yet.
      Just like Family.
      😜

  • @ransbarger
    @ransbarger 2 роки тому

    Yes!

  • @tatianaalbuquerque
    @tatianaalbuquerque 3 роки тому +3

    I loved the video. Thank you. So is there a part 2 where he talks about the 321 process or it ended there?

    • @OmKhadijah
      @OmKhadijah 3 роки тому

      I just googled it after watching this video:)

    • @DarkMoonDroid
      @DarkMoonDroid 3 роки тому

      3-2-1 Process is old material. I think it's free on their site both the short and long versions.

  • @SA-ww1ge
    @SA-ww1ge 3 роки тому +1

    had 1 simple toe break w Taekwando kick 2-3 month non weight or it just stalls healing & feels like rebreak if stand on till break sets together. Brutal

  • @emmanuelwilliams8133
    @emmanuelwilliams8133 4 роки тому +1

    Hey Corey, where can I find that framed 4Q art behind you? I would love to have one. Specifically the brown, wood, cross with the x behind it.

    • @IntegralNaked
      @IntegralNaked  4 роки тому +1

      Hey Emmanuel, I make those myself, and you are welcome to commission one! You can learn more here: integrallife.com/four-quadrant-carvings/
      -Corey

  • @DarkMoonDroid
    @DarkMoonDroid 3 роки тому +1

    Hi guys.
    36:05 Been getting some xlnt insight into the structure of these things and developing some new models and categories. The older models and many new ones do not adequately integrate the best understanding of Trauma, so I'm looking for the bleeding edge here. Would like more details about these methods...
    45:07 *"Enantiodromia"*
    _Jung defines enantiodromia as "the emergence of the unconscious opposite in the course of time."[1] It is similar to the principle of equilibrium in the natural world, in that any extreme is opposed by the system in order to restore balance. When things get to their extreme, they turn into their opposite. Jung adds that "this characteristic phenomenon practically always occurs when an extreme, one-sided tendency dominates conscious life; in time an equally powerful counterposition is built up which first inhibits the conscious performance and subsequently breaks through the conscious control."[1]_
    ~Wikipedia
    Have totally given up on Therapy because I can't find anyone who understands how to appropriately handle this material. I haven't seen it here yet either, tbh.
    But I think I'm forming the proper categories and language now.

    • @DarkMoonDroid
      @DarkMoonDroid 3 роки тому +1

      36:05 I need access to this info.
      37:40 Esp. this!
      Where can I get it?

    • @DarkMoonDroid
      @DarkMoonDroid 3 роки тому +1

      Found some: *"IEC 2020 Online - Kim Barta - The Evolution of Shadow Resolution"*

  • @rageagainstignorance
    @rageagainstignorance 3 роки тому

    Nice to see him better. Stay healthy.pls
    The hair: Would be nice in violett....
    I guess with ken its more about thougths...
    Still good.
    Would be nice to hear his thougths on the election debakel.

  • @1dekar07
    @1dekar07 4 роки тому +1

    so small amount of comments, hope that will change soon, Hi from Russia

  • @andreiamalta4020
    @andreiamalta4020 3 роки тому +3

    "Eternal life belongs to those who live in the present"

  • @chapashot2020
    @chapashot2020 4 роки тому +1

    Subtitles in Spanish please!!

  • @ProfessorChernobyl
    @ProfessorChernobyl 3 роки тому +4

    This Shadow Material Is Mine, But I Am Not This Shadow Material

    • @DarkMoonDroid
      @DarkMoonDroid 3 роки тому +1

      In terms of State Work, this is true.
      The deepest State discloses the fact that we don't have qualities.
      However,
      When it comes to Shadow Work, there is this thing where we identify with the quality. Our sense of self is swallowed by it. This is why we usually speak of _being_ hungry/angry/happy/etc. "I Am hungry". It's not a choice. It's a categorical habit of speech and it's a very hard habit to break. We can learn to break the hard ones using State Work.
      And we can just look thru our lives and find where we've dissociated to find the examples of the opposite habit. "I Am not angry". This is why he counsels to reverse the claim and actually _say,_ "I Am Angry!"
      But these problems - and therefore solutions - are very different and they need distinct language and categories.
      Peace.

  • @TV-kl5vd
    @TV-kl5vd 3 роки тому +1

    just a little correction here ; KEN(見) means 'seeing' and SHO(性) means 'true nature'. I think Mr. Wilber was confused....

  • @claudiaadrianagarbunozingk4529
    @claudiaadrianagarbunozingk4529 3 роки тому +1

    It’s very sad no translate to spanish ☹️

  • @michaelsinclair604
    @michaelsinclair604 4 роки тому +2

    Can someone explain the hair??

    • @jamesgreenldn
      @jamesgreenldn 4 роки тому +5

      Ken's channeling the spirt of Andy Warhol

    • @JJ-wi2uw
      @JJ-wi2uw 4 роки тому

      @@jamesgreenldn No; Caitlyn Jenner.

    • @sereneintegral
      @sereneintegral 4 роки тому +2

      He’s growing out his own hair and decided to explore covering it up during the scruffy stage

  • @claudiaadrianagarbunozingk4529
    @claudiaadrianagarbunozingk4529 3 роки тому +1

    The channels of chinese food are tranlate to many languges and Ken Wilber not😔😔😔sorry my english

  • @Traderhood
    @Traderhood 3 роки тому +1

    Aware of being aware? Isn't that meaning of consciousness?

  • @CalebSteele
    @CalebSteele 4 роки тому +2

    So.... is Ken Wilber transgender now? Does he identify as a woman now? If so, can someone give me a link to verify this?

    • @christalley879
      @christalley879 3 роки тому +2

      In another video, he explains it as experimenting with hair. He started shaving it at 25 and it occurred to him that he wanted to experience what it was like to have some.

    • @eternalism8274
      @eternalism8274 3 роки тому

      thx for update, i followed him thru 1990s only

  • @F--B
    @F--B 4 роки тому +17

    Ken unravelling his entire legacy with a Karen wig

    • @IAMdavidlong
      @IAMdavidlong 4 роки тому +1

      He looks like he is losing it. Yikes! Way to break with the band you have established in a really unhelpful way.

    • @JJ-wi2uw
      @JJ-wi2uw 4 роки тому +1

      HAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAH .... I think he is channeling Caitlyn Jenner.

    • @simonpollo
      @simonpollo 4 роки тому

      @@zit1999 and that's how I discover new music! Thank you :)

    • @anaglyphx
      @anaglyphx 10 місяців тому

      Wachowski influenced?

  • @IAMdavidlong
    @IAMdavidlong 4 роки тому +5

    "Face your shadow and Integrate it" said by the guy who has never debated a critic. - Hypocracy

    • @bhavagambhiram874
      @bhavagambhiram874 4 роки тому +1

      How is facing your shadow and integrating it got anything to do with debating critics?

    • @eternalism8274
      @eternalism8274 3 роки тому

      10:30 "moderns discovered the shadow" - false, encountering threatening demon/snake/monster in the mystic state is ancient

    • @sukhmanicambridge
      @sukhmanicambridge 3 роки тому

      @Old Skool Uncle Chrisp that comes across as a bit cultish to a newbie

    • @ProfessorChernobyl
      @ProfessorChernobyl 3 роки тому +1

      This Shadow Material Is Mine, But I Am Not This Shadow Material

  • @sheasquatch
    @sheasquatch 4 роки тому

    Why is Ken periodically licking his fingers in this one?

    • @sukhmanicambridge
      @sukhmanicambridge 3 роки тому

      No idea, but I’ve seen him do this before.

    • @QED_
      @QED_ 3 роки тому

      Preparing to turn a page (?)

  • @socksoppressmytoes476
    @socksoppressmytoes476 4 роки тому +5

    Is this a trans thing?

  • @spectrumconnection3983
    @spectrumconnection3983 4 роки тому +5

    I love the hair, it brings some well earned ludus into the circle. Dope outro beat is that DJ Rekluse?