Ken Wilber - How to Think Integrally
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- Опубліковано 19 січ 2019
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Excerpted from The Ken Show: How to Think Integrally
Find Parts 2 & 3 here:
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We’ve heard a lot from Ken over the years about the Integral model (quadrants, levels, lines, states, and types). And we’ve all likely experienced for ourselves the enormous clarity and understanding integral thought can bring to our lives, our inner-worlds, and the many nested realities we find ourselves in.
But this conversation isn’t just about “integral thought”.
It’s also about integral thinking - that is, the kind of thinking that produces things like the Integral model in the first place.
Watch as Ken and Corey explore some of the major qualities of integral thinking at the “vision logic” or “construct aware” stages of development, as well as the three most important principles of integral thinking:
- Everyone is right (nonexclusion)
- Some are more right than others (enfoldment)
- If you want to know this, do that (enactment)
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Its a profound realization that each new holon has its own new perspective that didn’t exist before its existence, and how this dynamics play out with new prospectives emerging in the cognitive development too. Thank you 🙏 Ken Wilber
Are there empirical studies that support this holonistic development via individuals that have actually reached this supposed state?
@@jupiterinaries6150 you may want to look into Dr Robert Kegan work
Our interior is represented in the decoration. Nice touch.
Red is represented as an object.
Green is represented as vegetation.
Coral is represented as a doorway.
You have to pass red and green to reach coral.
Somebody had fun making the real actual.
Some of you might like to look into the Steps to Knowledge - book of inner Knowing as a resource for gaining a greater perspective on thinking. Very valuable training that is unique in my experience. Look it up!
Hey, I've been doing it for a while. At some point I did realize I was thinking differently, in a less self-defeating and judgemental way. The way it's presented is quite mysterious as well - not a normal "self-help" book, more a training like you said
Thank you
Thank you
Thank you, Tom.
Brilliant, as always!
Great run down of the ideas! I've only very recently been made aware of Ken Wilber and his work! Kind of amazing considering that my thoughts and observations are right in line with everything he said in this video. There is probably good reason for that... I'll have to spend more time exploring Integral Life, cool stuff!
That is exactly what we see in the world. People like you emerging with encoded higher complexity inherently
Awesome!
Ok, Ken’s been holding out on us. He’s really an artist, or should be! Look at the visual composition here of his neutral skin and clothing tones juxtaposed against that colorful, sculptural background. It’s so captivating I can’t focus on what he’s saying! Please don’t tell someone else orchestrated that...
I meant to say, please don’t tell me someone else orchestrated that...
Great i appreciate
Please discuss UPB (Stefan molyneux)
Lets say 4th person is looking at a type of thinking which involves 3rd person
Is this not representing a (persons) way of thinking (including the capability of 3rd)
Therefor
1st indervidual
3rd meta
2nd repesentation including 3rd
A description still with 1st, 2nd, 3rd frame works without the need to add 4th, 5th, 6th, etc. position to the language description
I would love to see a dialogue between Ken Wilber and Jordan Peterson. 👨🏻🎨🙏👨🏻🎨
Chris Hunnicutt dito
I’d like to see Ken discuss his position on Stefan Molyneux’s UPB
Asshole Peterson, charlatan and fraud doesn’t need to be shoved down our throats anymore than he already is.
would be interesting, but maybe not totally productive/harmonious as these guys are involved in different levels of knowledge. Peterson says what gets him a job in academia. Wilber says things that categorize Peterson's knowledge in a broader context of everything that Peterson doesn't know that he doesn't know.
Also, you said the word! ua-cam.com/video/bDjCnFvz11A/v-deo.html
Carry on
Interesting
Min 4:30
Integral Big 3 'PrincipleTerms' ~
NonExclusion, EnFoldMent, EnActMent
🙏
He's intuitively explaining the idea cohomology theory in algebraic geometry with sheaves and shit. So, integration is being used in the correct sense. He even looks like Grothendieck himself. :)
Starts 7:26
Viking Ninja-Kitty thanks for saving me 7:26 minutes of my life
Nothing exists in a vacuum, and no human is a "supermind", they're just well fed. I think humans bounce all over the various levels and stages of development, and consistency is just an illusion created by environmental stability.
When the interviewer takes over for such a long time, that you do not have a clue, what it was the question, or it was answering completely the answer of Ken
This one's better:
Introduction to Integral Spirituality | Ken Wilber
ua-cam.com/video/H4jcxxJ_0ok/v-deo.html
7:30
I like your color scheme⚡️also 🤙🏻what you say makes sense🦄
what's wrong with fuelling all sides?
the only thing that provokes me into a state of thinking besides what agrees with my thinking is the opposite to that- which can be very fruitful! I dont want to be in a world of meerkats looking in the same direction! where's the fun in that? we must keep mixing it up!
What’s the painting name , artist . The one behind the bald young guy.
English sub please
I'd like to see merch that says in red block "Cory is f###ing awesome". In teal block "check it out". Or something clever like that...
Will he have something to break down the wall & to brick it back up?
What is the highest one?
Boom!!!
I wish I could find what ken Wilber has probably said (im guessing) about Assange. it seems he operates from the integral level. morally speaking. and that's why countries and geopolitical powers go after him. (paradoxically those superpowers that are for democracy. but of course the national level democracy. this is the friction point, politically speaking, and morally speaking of these two levels.)
Ken may be able to keep up with 2 dozen discussion prompts when they are thrown out in a continuous spurt, but the viewer cannot. You may as well just give Ken the questions ahead of time and have him start talking. Viewers can't remember all those prompts a few minutes in anyway.
I cant help myself. Whenever he talks about stuff that I don't know much about, he sounds like he is a fucking genius...
But when he talks about stuff where I claim to know at least something (e.g. darwinian evolution)... He sounds like he has no fucking idea what he is talking about...
A who is watching this program?
Something I continue to disagree with is the suggestion that when the West banned slavery, they somehow shifted into a higher plane of openness and universal ethics. We can see from the history of the West that that just wasn't so. The West banned slavery in name but continued to practice it in many other forms. And its universalist ethics was hardly universal. It remains very much ethnocentric to this day.
That's not quite the suggestion. The idea is that the foundational documents were orange (this higher universalist viewpoint), but that most of the society was not yet at that centre of gravity or stage of development. The next 2 centuries were a fight to have these universalist orange systems not only appear in the Constitution but in all legal systems and cultural systems.
The noteworthy thing is that prior to the West banning slavery, slavery was the normal state of human affairs. The orange universalist viewpoint emerged and then translated into objective systems.
Mathew
So, politicians were "orange", but the hoi polloi were not? So that's why the West continued to engage in colonialism, imperialism and endless wars predicated in whole/part on racism, bigotry and chauvinism?
The idea that "officially banning slavery" makes you a higher order human being is obviously nonsense. The reason why the West had to make a law to ban slavery is because they practiced slavery on an industrial scale. When you pillage and murder at a level never before seen in human history, at some point, you have to realize that what you're doing is "wrong". However, that realization doesn't make you more enlightened, as we can see in the history of the West.
The "enlightened" West is responsible for more death and carnage in the wake of "banning slavery" and "laws to protect human rights" than any other people in the world.
The trouble with these examples is that it puts the West on a pedestal it doesn't deserve. If the West transcended "ethnocentrism" and it looks like this, it would seem to be a farce to me.
I also continue to disagree that anything ever gets better
If slavery is considered immoral and has to be covered up, or is only a little bit better that means its exactly the same as it always was
@@natclo9229 I think things can get better. However, I think the West patting itself on the back for banning slavery and other liberal ideals are in many respects undeserved.
The West has hardly moved beyond ethnocentrism. I think its conception of the "tribe" has just widened (ie, from intra-European conflicts to West vs. non-West). And anyone outside it is treated as quite the devil.
The West has a terrible track record and dead bodies are still piling up even as it TALKS democracy, liberalism and human rights. The West remains very tribal and dualistic in thinking, and in some ways, are even more backward than other "backward" cultures.
@@Octavus5 makes a bunch of sense
If you look at averages you get a lot of ethnos (or worse inbetween ethno and world!)
The average is always behind the 'highest' consciousness (sadly)
I think wilber talked about an expanding of the definition of tribe as you do. So im assuming you find issue that when slavery, although (slightly?) better, when brought up is over played
I know he's 70 but is it just me or is he looking 80? is everything ok with him?
Hes been seriously ill for a while I think
Political Quagmire. I'm gonna vote for miss Jenner. Giggity giggity!
How can we be on a flat earth, who is driving it?
My chimney is bricked up, he can't go through walls.
Not sure what to think of his teachings, he talks about we abolished slavery yet does not understand that we are more enslaved now then ever before. Can anyone just condense his teachings in simple language, what is Ken Wilber’s actual teachings?
Try reading his "theory of everything", he uses mostly simple language there, also the ideas have evolved.
Strange shirt kw is wearing.
Has santa clause got a wife waiting for him when he gets back home for his meal?
You talk too much and don't the interviewee speak enough.