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Admiral Ackbar’s suit actor (who returned from Return of the Jedi) actually broken down in tears when he was informed the character died as (like the audience) he himself didn’t even realise
@Suzaku Toho (Leo) seven is still bad. We just didn’t know how bad it was until we thought about it for a bit. Which for most of us was when we saw TLJ.
Wow, I thought People raging at a movie that disappointed them never bought them any joy or satisfaction. I'm not really defending the film or anything, but its kind of mind boggling that all the extreme hatred and negativity actually brings anyone any sense of joy as if you wanted to hate it and treat it like Satan itself.
I'd point out how stupid Finn's idea to jump in an escape pod is when you think about it for even just a second. Those things have no means of avoiding the First Order fleet, tracking Rey, or even basic maneuverability. He'd be dead.
Regarding the music: people grossly overestimate the amount of creative freedom that we composers have when writing for film. Most of the time you have the director tell you basically "rewrite [this piece/song/score they like] just enough so we don't get sued because it's identical". Sure, John Williams is quite old, but he definitely could have come up with better material *had he been given the chance*. The music in the sequels, and particularly in TLJ, is such a nostalgia shitfest that Williams could only do very little new because almost everything he came up with was met with things like "yeah, but the Force theme would fit better here". What can you do, they're the ones paying. And add to that the problem that this movie was massively (and I mean *massively*) reedited and re-cut after the music was both written and recorded that you basically can't follow a single cue from end to end between the written score and what's in the film. Last minute cuts and edits happen all the time, but never to the extent of TLJ. So I really think that the weaker music in this film is anything but Williams's fault and we essentially got the best possible outcome given the circumstances because Williams is an absolute beast of a professional.
25:39 - 25:48 So Kylo wasn't the founder of The Knights of Ren, but a member of The Knights of Ren... TLJ is one of the worst rabbit hole I've descended. Because the further I go, the worst it gets! Rian, you had ONE JOB!!!
Nope, he just robbed the title off the previous "Master", simply called Ren. A pretentious, arrogant shirtless moron with a mask ripped off from Darth Jadus from SWTOR. It gets even worse if you read the comic about Kylo's fall to the Dark Side.
Yknow which Star Wars movie did a much better job at teaching that ”failure is the best teacher”? Episode 5 The Empire Strikes Back. And it didn’t need the characters to regurgitate the themes for the viewers consumption like a mouthpiece for the directors and writers or anything cuz it was 100 times the movie TLJ ever was!
This film did have "THEMZ!!!" and yes they were all poorly implemented "THEMZ!!!" by people who didn't understand the "THEMZ!!!" of the originals, or show any respect to anything or anyone that came before in the Star Wars universe. Great video just found your channel and subbed this was excellent 🤣😂
Having this movie take place immediately after was the first mistake. Even placing it half a year after The Force Awakens, with the Resistance fleet drifting through the galaxy trying to avoid the First Order amps up the tension and the characters could have developed off screen. In the OT Luke goes from the farm boy blew up the first Death Star in the first movie to a military commander in the second movie and in the third movie he has advanced to a Jedi Knight, leaving behind the military titles. We didn’t need to see the evacuation of the Resistance base (we never saw the Rebels flee Yavin IV)
Strange thing is that Rian johnson directed Ozymandias from Breaking Bad(which is regarded by many as the greatest episode of Television ever) yet for some reason KK thought that he would be a good pick to write the Script as well despite beforehand not helping in the writing of any mainstream movies, like for all of JJ abrams’s flaws as a writer at least it made sense for them to pick him since he wrote a whole TV show, Rian Johnson wrote like one episode of a not really popular tv show and 3 movies I’ve never heard of
"Rian made Holdo incompetent" Rian can't even get his JP references correct . . . Ellie wasn't the one making stupid decisions . . . Sarah was :3 The Last Jedi is terrible, better off watching The Last Airbender. Not only is TLA better than TLJ, but it's also an hour less time of suffering XD
If you thought what Sarah did in The Lost World was stupid your head would explode from the migraine you'd get trying to comprehend Claire's stupidity in the awful Jurassic World movies
5:02 - 5:17 Ho-ly crap.... How'd I miss that? That's a good point. With Leia in command, why didn't she tell the bombers to disengage and leave Poe to his own devices? This means all that blood is on Leia's hands, not Poe's. This made Poe's demotion look as if Leia couldn't handle the consequence of losing all those soldiers, which in turn makes her look weak. Leia, who fought with Han and Luke during her escape from Vader's ship, and who strangled Jabba The Hut to death with the very chains he enslaved her with. And who also showed herself to be an excellent leader during the assault on the first Death Star. And this film made Leia look pathetic by comparison! Kennedy, this is not an example of female empowerment you dimwitted old hag! Dx
So if the dreadnaught wasn’t destroyed would the rebel fleet been able to evacuate the base and escape? I’m going to go with no probably not. So Poe’s attack while costly was still worth it. Despite how terrible the bombers were. And believe me they are so stupid as to not make sense to have ever been built in universe. It still makes some level of sense that destroying the dreadnaught was needed as it would have ‘killed the fleet’ if it survived. So a rational decision is derided as being too costly. Despite it being the only way they survive. Poe is demoted for literally saving the rest of the rebellion because Leila doesn’t like people being killed in war. In a series Called Star Wars…
It's called 'sacrificing oneself for the greater good', moron. Unlike Leia everyone else knew that the Dreadnought's next target would have been them if it wasn't put out of commission
First, when I first was curious about the backlash of the fans, I went into it expecting it to be bad, when I finished watching it I was frustratingly disappointed and then I started watching Every frame a pause for like a year straight, after that I now see this movie as the so bad it good entry in the Franchise. Edit, I watched other Ryan Johnson films and they where the most nonsensical, unbelievable, and premise braking films I had the displeasure of experiencing.
When Hux is told that the Resistance ships can "still out-maneuver us", I expected to see some sort of maneuvering going on. But no... The Resistance ships are way in front and the First Order ships are way behind and cannot catch up for some reason. Ships have a top speed in space?
Yeah given that the ships were moving in a straight line, why didn’t half of the First Order fleet micro jump around and in front of the Resistance and just surround them?
@@ariesstorm9577 Or call for reinforcements to arrive in front of the Resistance Fleet. Because if that fleet we saw was all the First Order had to take over the galaxy, then they were grossly under equipped to do so. And they put all their eggs in one basket, just like the Resistance
22:15 GREAT. LMAO. I laughed several minutes. Firstly, this Marxian pseudo-scientific anti-capitalist shit annoys as hell. Secondly, it is executed so badly like it was directed by a 5-year-old boy. JJ Plagiarisms, you deserves 1000 thumbs up for this.
19:32 Why? Why must you dangle a prospect before us like that? Because yeah, Finn and Poe going on a buddy-cop adventure to find a code-breaker would've been fun. But no, that would not have been possible because they had to display that piss-poor excuse of "female empowerment..."
The “saving what we love” line just kills me-so rose apparently didn’t give a flying fuck about the platoon size group of resistance fighters that were about to get ROASTED? lmao make it make sense
You have a good observation there. Luke says that the Jedi didn't do anything to stop Palpatine, when actually Yoda went to take him out as soon as they found him.
Also Luke is a fucking hypocrite. The Jedi had doubts about Anakin when they sensed that his judgement was clouded. Heck Anakin was in an even worse state then Ben and the Jedi never considered killing him in his sleep. Also is he really the one to be talking when he didn't even try to stop Ben from rising to power as Kylo.
Also the fact that Snoke in this movie looks different to the Snoke we saw in the force awakens easily sets up that this version was some sort of doppelgänger, because the real Snoke (the one from the force awakens) is in fact sat on his throne on Exegol, because he is in fact a Sith Lord and was a secret apprentice of Darth Sidious. Then this means episode 9 is not a terrible rip off of the Dark Empire comics. Rey is not and never was a Palpatine, but she *could* be the daughter of Luke Skywalker. Because if Rey looks like anybody, it’s her grandmother Padme. Why doesn’t Rey remember? I would have been happy enough if they had given her amnesia like Revan.
Finn in a Bacta Suit instead of tank. Awful joke. Rian has this really weird and awfully out of place in Star Wars humor. Like the scene with Poe making fun of Hux calling him hugs.
1. Revenge of the Sith: 10/10 2. A New Hope: 10/10 3. Empire Strikes Back: 10/10 4. Return of the Jedi: 9/10 5. Phantom Menace: 8/10 6. Attack of the Clones: 8/10 7. Rogue One: 7/10 8. Solo: 6/10 9. Force Awakens: 5/10 10. Rise of Skywalker: 3/10 11. Last Jedi: 2/10
1.A New Hope-20/10 2. Empire Strikes Back-Infinte/10 3. Return of the Jedi-400/10 4. The phantom menace-7/10 5. Attack of the Clones-6/10 6. Revenge of The Sith-200/10 7.Force Awakens: -10.5/10 8.The Ass farce I give: -Infinite/10 9.The Rise of Palpitine (Skywalker) -11.5/10
8:50 I'm really not trying to troll you here, and it may be a minor nitpick, but The Phantom Menace had an eopie fart right into Jar Jar's face, which by your words would make that more childish than the water scene here. What's the difference? And I don't actually hate the prequels. I'm just looking for consistency here, is all. I want to understand your thought process, if you please.
I guess what he's trying to get at is that it doesn't make sense for a character such as Finn, who is an ex-Stormtrooper trained from infancy, battled his former leader with a lightsaber, got seriously injured by him, only for him to have a comedic relief aftermath, and a pointless sidequest that is also pretty comedic (both ironically and unironically). Jar-Jar is fundamentally supposed to be a comedic relief character who gets tied up into the most absurd of situations.
This is the worst movie I have ever seen. My question is through all the films problems, is why was there is a map to luke Skywalker if he didn't want to be found.
@@Error-xy7ge D'Qar actually, but yeah, even TFA doesn't bother to call it by name, just a throwaway line when Finn and Rey are on the Falcon where they say "the Ileenium System". Can't even make up their mind on what's it called.
Blame Disney for hiring two token directors. They should never have given the go ahead for any Star Wars movies. It's much to big of a world. Mr Mystery box & Reen were not the ones.
49:13 That design is a slug crammed into a shirt. It's just as well that Rian mainly ripped off designs from Empire Strikes Back (take the First Order walker machines as an example), because when he designs things his own way, the results are very ugly.
This movie was the first time where I found a John Williams soundtrack to be lacking. I think an interesting example of how poorly the music goes with the movie can be found in the Praetorian fight. In my opinion, the score seriously lacks the gravitas such an action sequence needs. I've personally found that trying to sync it up with Watch the Skies by Jeremy Soule completely changes the tone and improves it by a minuscule amount.
You can take a look for yourself by starting the track when the clip hits the 8 second mark. Praetorian Fight: ua-cam.com/video/C3HMz25LvnY/v-deo.html Watch the Skies: ua-cam.com/video/L-1f3cL1nCc/v-deo.html
I honestly didn't mind the fact that Luke contemplated killing Kylo. But the fact that he didn't do anything about it AFTERWARDS, is the worst thing. On the surface level, Luke's arc isn't bad. But the biggest problem is that Luke has no agency in this film. He doesn't drive the plot in any way. He doesn't contribute anything of value until the last minute. Heck, he even pussies out when burning down the tree with the "sacred texts". Yoda (mysteriously absent these 30+ years) has to show up and do it for him.
@Jake The Protogen I guess you’re right. I can concede that it’s egregious enough that Luke went as far as to ignite his freaking lightsaber over Ben. There is no eagerness in me to defend THAT part of Luke’s actions. But I feel like it COULD have worked. It could have “rhymed” with his own father’s downfall: he became a victim of his own fears, creating a self-fulfilling prophecy. I was just BEGGING to see Luke do something meaningful in the film. I think fans could have forgiven his mistakes if he did. On a completely unrelated note, why were Luke’s Jedi living in wooden HUTS when the prequel era Jedi lived in high-tech temples?! 😂 No wonder Ben was starting to turn to the dark side 😂
I do disagree with the visuals. There were some breathtaking ones. The usually broke canon or were on the level of a Zach Snyder film's over the top (contextually meaningless) obvious symbolism, but they looked good.
@@j.j.plagiarisms7149 in old eu ackbar did soo much more he was a genuis he also played a big part in fightning against grand admiral thrawn in the thrawn trilogy
@@virgogaming6488 It honestly has some interesting stuff. I watched that one ec Henry video and it made a good case for last Jedi explaining space battle mechanics better than any other sw movie. But I still hate all the sequel movies as the final install ments of the so called Skywalker saga, they contributed nothing good to that story and are very uneventful compared to all preexisting sw movies. TLJ should have been one of the side movies and basically dropped all the Skywalker stuff.
@@edwardhenry8279 TLJ is the only movie I've grown to like from the ST because of how offbeat an un-Star Warsy it is. It's also the only Star Wars movie that tries to be more than just Star Wars.
Luke's reason for ending the Jedi was so insulting and unlikely for someone who followed a way of life religiously. He didn't even live in a time when the Jedi had a temple, library and numerous fanatics in touch with each others minds in discussion. If Luke failed to correctly train a Jedi, he should be aware, especially with Force Ghosts to remind him. Only, I don't think he failed. The Jedi had over a thousand generations of relative success overall. The 2 examples he gives of Vader and Kylo were both seduced by the same Sith, so it is them to blame, not the Jedi. People say the Jedi were to rigid and disciplined, but it was chaos and weakness, a lack of discipline that opened the door to corruption among the populace for the Sith to gain a foothold.
The Last Jedi WAS bad. But it was more entertaining than an endless picture of a statue of a man doing a facepalm. Could we maybe see the video that's being rolled behind it?
Right, hyperspace ramming ruins the franchise but people pulling ships down with the Force isn't.... oh wait, that shit ruins the franchise as far back as the ORIGINAL ENTRY where all Vader would have had to have done is casually wave his hand to make the Rebel fighters crash against the walls of the Death Star trench to ruin their plans
When i first saw this movie i immediately stopped caring about starwars and it lost some of its majic for me. Dont know if the prequels did that for me ejther but maybe it was the nostalga for me as a kid watching it with all the lightsabers snd maybe thats how i am now. I remember the ot being not that exciting for me and the two trilogies felt kinda different for me and didnt really get the feeling they were similar to eachother and i didnt really get reminded of anakin when i got to know luke other than the complaining and attachments but they also look different and their personalities seem to be different too. I always liked the prequels more cause they were more exciting and war like. The ot has that too i think but on a less grand scale besides maybe hoth. It was more compact.
Your an hypocrite when you say that Leia dying when the bridge exploded would’ve been a good way to kill her off because of Carrie Fisher’s death, yet in the same sentence you call it disgraceful that Ackbar dies because the actor died (yet both of them died in 2016) so what the hell would make Leia’s different from Ackbar?
Haven’t watched anything Star Wars since the force awakens and don’t have Disney + lol. That’s how you get back at Kathleen Kennedy, but not watching or buying any of the garbage they put out
Couple of issues with your premises against Ryan... A) Abrams came out right before the film released saying that it was an incredible film that he wished he had come up with and directed, and B) Nerdronymous's coverage of how Abrams actually didn't give Ryan any notes or plan details for the next film... I'm not saying Ryan wrote the best he could have with that in mind (the film is almost as bad as The Force Awakens), but he was given GARBAGE setups and was expected to come up with his own plan.
@@j.j.plagiarisms7149 Still generally a decent breakdown - the more people who understand the issues, the better! I'm always trying to be careful of what criticisms I level at the sequels, because while they are objectively bad films I don't want to give clownish reasons like Red Letter Media did about the prequels (I want my criticisms to hold up logically).
@@j.j.plagiarisms7149 it doesn't really matter what you see.. the visor come forward of the brow ridge with a slit placed higher than the eye line creating a slit... you are correct on your points with these movies but the design is directly taken from frog mouth helms
Just a couple mins in but already half of what’s onscreen is a repetitive still image of a face palming statue and the “Story” section is spending a significant amount of time complaining about non-story elements like a simple snarky exchange and a remote controlled bombing. Just seems like if you want to make the point that the film fails *as a film,* you’d put in the effort to ensure your very basically structured critique of said film was at least competent and visually engaging.
@@BrandontheAwesome It’s pretty poorly structured and doesn’t take advantage of the medium. And that’s without going into detail about the substance of his complaints.
@@j.j.plagiarisms7149 I loved Luke’s character arc, it gave me chills as hell. His character becomes the most wise and powerful Jedi ever at the end of the movie by facing Kylo without falling into the conflict. It’s the natural following of Luke’s journey, applying the lessons he learnt from Yoda of fighting without weapons, and with defense never attack. The relation between Rey and Kylo Ren is the most ambiguous, complex, and fascinating relation of all the saga. The environments are very creative, every planet visited has its own creatures, this is the only film of the sequel trilogy that felt like a Star Wars with creativity within the world. The biggest cow that Luke milked is one of my favorite addition to the all serie. It reminded me of the blue milk in episode 4, and it felt the most real and weird species in all the Star Wars movies, after the too clean and numeric (=unrealistic) species in the prequels. The movie fixed a lot of plot holes of the previous movies : midiclorians ? Dead. Luke kissing Leia ? Made into something normal. The Jedi overseeing Palpatine’s plan ? Acknowledged. Kylo being a child under a mask ? Acknowledged. Poe being an impulsive fly boy ? Acknowledged. Hux being a monolithic and manichean villain ? Now he’s a joke. Snoke being a generic and boring villain ? Now he’s dead to push Kylo Ren’s development further. The scenario being too similar to the OT ? Now it’s new and original. Leia being just a commander and not using the Force ? Now she does. Rey being too powerful ? Now she’s dealing with personal existential crisis and she’s no match for Snoke, neither Kylo Ren, as she can’t take the saber from him. The movie was just beautiful to look at, every frame seemed like painting, the way the movie is directed is the best looking film of the serie. The planet Crait with red salt and the red cave, it’s marvelous to look at, the way the movie plays with the colors, it’s one of the best directed Star Wars film. And the battles are far more relatable, as it’s the first time we care about the random pilots. The space battle at the beginning is the most relatable space battle as we care about Paige Tico when she is the last bomber left and tries everything to make the bomb drop onto the Dreadnaught. I could spend hours to talk about the deep themes this movie is exploring, about human instinct, failure, heroism, hope in desperate cases, and the social impact of the conflict in Star Wars. The end of the movie showed that anyone could have the Force if he believes in it the most. The movie connected with me on a spiritual level. I thought I could have the Force too. It made the Force spiritual and universal again, after being reduced to a boring science in the prequels. My only issue : the codebreaker should have been the death stick seller from the bar in Attack of the Clones. Those are all the reason I love this movie and think it’s a masterpiece. Feel free to disagree with me, I can understand that people don’t like this movie. In the end, it depends on our perception of Star Wars.
When one's inconsistenicies literally go against PRE-ESTABLISHED RULES SET BY WHAT CAME BEFORE, it is horrible. TLJ has no understanding of the Force, of the Jedi, or anything! It makes no sense! Only an absolute IDIOT would like this movie! THIS MOVIE IS, NOW AND FOREVER SHALL BE, A PIECE OF GARBAGE THAT DOES NOT, AND WILL NOT, DESERVE THE NAME OF STAR WARS!!!!!!
@@GameOver-vh7py Not fully, Luke is a hard one to critique because its the most subjective thing in the movie, plot holes, contrivances, bad plot choices, bad twists and badly written characters are easier to critique because they are objective.
@@sucky-kun4369 plot holes are not objective, they are based on our interpretation on the facts of the movie because you interpret them as being inconsistent, then it’s based on a subjective judgment. Plot holes can be found in every movies, even in the Star Wars franchise. Explosions are making noises despite being in space. It’s technically a plot hole. And badly written characters, it depends on what we expect from those characters.
The giant cow that Luke milks is one of my favorite addition to the série and if you don’t like it, no offense, you have boring taste and I don’t want to be friend with you.
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Admiral Ackbar’s suit actor (who returned from Return of the Jedi) actually broken down in tears when he was informed the character died as (like the audience) he himself didn’t even realise
4 years, and this is still therapeutic.
Also "Yes, yes, let the anger flow through you."
Not
Well, the movie was, well, is, trash
I love people being angry at TLJ :') please never stop reminding people how bad this movie is
I rage about this trilogy every single day, for two months by now. I have a blast doing it
@Suzaku Toho (Leo) seven is still bad. We just didn’t know how bad it was until we thought about it for a bit. Which for most of us was when we saw TLJ.
Wow, I thought People raging at a movie that disappointed them never bought them any joy or satisfaction. I'm not really defending the film or anything, but its kind of mind boggling that all the extreme hatred and negativity actually brings anyone any sense of joy as if you wanted to hate it and treat it like Satan itself.
@@sheadoolittle not
@@MrCwazie No it isn’t mind boggling and stfu. It’s hated for many reasons
Finn wasn't a Resistance member, so Rose committed assault on a civilian when she tasered him...
I'd point out how stupid Finn's idea to jump in an escape pod is when you think about it for even just a second. Those things have no means of avoiding the First Order fleet, tracking Rey, or even basic maneuverability. He'd be dead.
Don't forget that life scanning has been a thing since the OT
It boggles my mind to this very day that Disney decanonized the EU for this fan fiction BS lmao
Same.
What Fan Fiction?
This movie is a master Piece, every time you watch it, you notice more flaws
Regarding the music: people grossly overestimate the amount of creative freedom that we composers have when writing for film. Most of the time you have the director tell you basically "rewrite [this piece/song/score they like] just enough so we don't get sued because it's identical". Sure, John Williams is quite old, but he definitely could have come up with better material *had he been given the chance*. The music in the sequels, and particularly in TLJ, is such a nostalgia shitfest that Williams could only do very little new because almost everything he came up with was met with things like "yeah, but the Force theme would fit better here". What can you do, they're the ones paying. And add to that the problem that this movie was massively (and I mean *massively*) reedited and re-cut after the music was both written and recorded that you basically can't follow a single cue from end to end between the written score and what's in the film. Last minute cuts and edits happen all the time, but never to the extent of TLJ. So I really think that the weaker music in this film is anything but Williams's fault and we essentially got the best possible outcome given the circumstances because Williams is an absolute beast of a professional.
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So Kylo wasn't the founder of The Knights of Ren, but a member of The Knights of Ren...
TLJ is one of the worst rabbit hole I've descended. Because the further I go, the worst it gets! Rian, you had ONE JOB!!!
Nope, he just robbed the title off the previous "Master", simply called Ren. A pretentious, arrogant shirtless moron with a mask ripped off from Darth Jadus from SWTOR. It gets even worse if you read the comic about Kylo's fall to the Dark Side.
Yknow which Star Wars movie did a much better job at teaching that ”failure is the best teacher”? Episode 5 The Empire Strikes Back. And it didn’t need the characters to regurgitate the themes for the viewers consumption like a mouthpiece for the directors and writers or anything cuz it was 100 times the movie TLJ ever was!
This film did have "THEMZ!!!" and yes they were all poorly implemented "THEMZ!!!" by people who didn't understand the "THEMZ!!!" of the originals, or show any respect to anything or anyone that came before in the Star Wars universe.
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But the THEMZ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
*THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMMMMZZZZ*
So it has begun
Boring movie
Insulting story
Uninspired designs
Mediocre worldbuilding
Pretentious fans
Having this movie take place immediately after was the first mistake.
Even placing it half a year after The Force Awakens, with the Resistance fleet drifting through the galaxy trying to avoid the First Order amps up the tension and the characters could have developed off screen. In the OT Luke goes from the farm boy blew up the first Death Star in the first movie to a military commander in the second movie and in the third movie he has advanced to a Jedi Knight, leaving behind the military titles.
We didn’t need to see the evacuation of the Resistance base (we never saw the Rebels flee Yavin IV)
Strange thing is that Rian johnson directed Ozymandias from Breaking Bad(which is regarded by many as the greatest episode of Television ever) yet for some reason KK thought that he would be a good pick to write the Script as well despite beforehand not helping in the writing of any mainstream movies, like for all of JJ abrams’s flaws as a writer at least it made sense for them to pick him since he wrote a whole TV show, Rian Johnson wrote like one episode of a not really popular tv show and 3 movies I’ve never heard of
"Rian made Holdo incompetent" Rian can't even get his JP references correct . . .
Ellie wasn't the one making stupid decisions . . . Sarah was :3
The Last Jedi is terrible, better off watching The Last Airbender. Not only is TLA better than TLJ, but it's also an hour less time of suffering XD
If you thought what Sarah did in The Lost World was stupid your head would explode from the migraine you'd get trying to comprehend Claire's stupidity in the awful Jurassic World movies
Funny thing is I actually like both films, and Kathleen Kennedy worked on both. 🙃
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Ho-ly crap.... How'd I miss that? That's a good point. With Leia in command, why didn't she tell the bombers to disengage and leave Poe to his own devices? This means all that blood is on Leia's hands, not Poe's.
This made Poe's demotion look as if Leia couldn't handle the consequence of losing all those soldiers, which in turn makes her look weak. Leia, who fought with Han and Luke during her escape from Vader's ship, and who strangled Jabba The Hut to death with the very chains he enslaved her with. And who also showed herself to be an excellent leader during the assault on the first Death Star. And this film made Leia look pathetic by comparison!
Kennedy, this is not an example of female empowerment you dimwitted old hag! Dx
So if the dreadnaught wasn’t destroyed would the rebel fleet been able to evacuate the base and escape? I’m going to go with no probably not. So Poe’s attack while costly was still worth it. Despite how terrible the bombers were. And believe me they are so stupid as to not make sense to have ever been built in universe. It still makes some level of sense that destroying the dreadnaught was needed as it would have ‘killed the fleet’ if it survived. So a rational decision is derided as being too costly. Despite it being the only way they survive. Poe is demoted for literally saving the rest of the rebellion because Leila doesn’t like people being killed in war. In a series Called Star Wars…
It's called 'sacrificing oneself for the greater good', moron. Unlike Leia everyone else knew that the Dreadnought's next target would have been them if it wasn't put out of commission
you have hate...you have anger, and now you finally use them.
Thanks for confirming JJ Plagiarism acts like a sith.
There's still good in him
@@GameOver-vh7pyAt least he uses it for good! People like you need to wake up and see Disney Star Wars for what it is! A MOCKERY.
@@BrandontheAwesome using bad for good still makes it bad. That’s what Star Wars should have taught you, my dear sweet boy.
@@GameOver-vh7py Keep crying, fake fan.
First, when I first was curious about the backlash of the fans, I went into it expecting it to be bad, when I finished watching it I was frustratingly disappointed and then I started watching Every frame a pause for like a year straight, after that I now see this movie as the so bad it good entry in the Franchise.
Edit, I watched other Ryan Johnson films and they where the most nonsensical, unbelievable, and premise braking films I had the displeasure of experiencing.
Who is he?! What is he? Where is he?! How is he?!!!
I fuckin’ love the delivery of those lines… the pure rage… makes me feel good lol
When Hux is told that the Resistance ships can "still out-maneuver us", I expected to see some sort of maneuvering going on. But no... The Resistance ships are way in front and the First Order ships are way behind and cannot catch up for some reason. Ships have a top speed in space?
Yeah given that the ships were moving in a straight line, why didn’t half of the First Order fleet micro jump around and in front of the Resistance and just surround them?
@@ariesstorm9577 Or call for reinforcements to arrive in front of the Resistance Fleet. Because if that fleet we saw was all the First Order had to take over the galaxy, then they were grossly under equipped to do so. And they put all their eggs in one basket, just like the Resistance
If you look at TLJ's philosophy and morality closer, you'll notice that it tries TOO HARD to be like KOTOR 2 but fails miserably.
Do NOT compare TLJ to kotor 2 plz Visas Marr >>>>>> Rose
bold of you to assume that rian even knows what kotor is
22:15 GREAT. LMAO. I laughed several minutes.
Firstly, this Marxian pseudo-scientific anti-capitalist shit annoys as hell. Secondly, it is executed so badly like it was directed by a 5-year-old boy.
JJ Plagiarisms, you deserves 1000 thumbs up for this.
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Why? Why must you dangle a prospect before us like that? Because yeah, Finn and Poe going on a buddy-cop adventure to find a code-breaker would've been fun.
But no, that would not have been possible because they had to display that piss-poor excuse of "female empowerment..."
54:38 That's not a piece of shit.
That's a PILE of shit.
I don't understand why anyone would unironically enjoy this film.
It baffles me too.
It was good as just a film. And it comes the closest to George's discarded story treatments for the trilogy.
Read my comment.
Appreciating films is subjective. Stop trying to impose your opinion as the only valid one.
@@virgogaming6488 #MegaShill
The “saving what we love” line just kills me-so rose apparently didn’t give a flying fuck about the platoon size group of resistance fighters that were about to get ROASTED? lmao make it make sense
You have another good observation. How did Luke know what planet to project himself to?
The Canto Bight Aliens look like they come from the MIB movies, not Star Wars.
So true
exactly right? why not just borrow aliens that already exist in star wars like twileks and zabraks and shak ti's species and what not?
You Mean The Togruta Species?
Finally!!!! I found a video which call out the ugly cinematography, set and costume design of TLJ. Thank you
You have a good observation there. Luke says that the Jedi didn't do anything to stop Palpatine, when actually Yoda went to take him out as soon as they found him.
Also Luke is a fucking hypocrite. The Jedi had doubts about Anakin when they sensed that his judgement was clouded. Heck Anakin was in an even worse state then Ben and the Jedi never considered killing him in his sleep. Also is he really the one to be talking when he didn't even try to stop Ben from rising to power as Kylo.
Also the fact that Snoke in this movie looks different to the Snoke we saw in the force awakens easily sets up that this version was some sort of doppelgänger, because the real Snoke (the one from the force awakens) is in fact sat on his throne on Exegol, because he is in fact a Sith Lord and was a secret apprentice of Darth Sidious.
Then this means episode 9 is not a terrible rip off of the Dark Empire comics.
Rey is not and never was a Palpatine, but she *could* be the daughter of Luke Skywalker. Because if Rey looks like anybody, it’s her grandmother Padme.
Why doesn’t Rey remember? I would have been happy enough if they had given her amnesia like Revan.
Finn in a Bacta Suit instead of tank. Awful joke. Rian has this really weird and awfully out of place in Star Wars humor. Like the scene with Poe making fun of Hux calling him hugs.
1. Revenge of the Sith: 10/10
2. A New Hope: 10/10
3. Empire Strikes Back: 10/10
4. Return of the Jedi: 9/10
5. Phantom Menace: 8/10
6. Attack of the Clones: 8/10
7. Rogue One: 7/10
8. Solo: 6/10
9. Force Awakens: 5/10
10. Rise of Skywalker: 3/10
11. Last Jedi: 2/10
How about the Star Wars holiday special?
Why so generous with TLJ?
@@LOTRFAN33 I suppose his scale does not allow a minus score.
@@cityman2312 TLJ is worse than Holiday Special because TLJ is Canon and it ruined Luke. TLJ is a 1/10 Holiday Special is a 2/10
1.A New Hope-20/10
2. Empire Strikes Back-Infinte/10
3. Return of the Jedi-400/10
4. The phantom menace-7/10
5. Attack of the Clones-6/10
6. Revenge of The Sith-200/10
7.Force Awakens: -10.5/10
8.The Ass farce I give: -Infinite/10
9.The Rise of Palpitine (Skywalker) -11.5/10
Well done! I can’t believe I missed your channel.
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Glad to witness the beginning of a promising channel !
So am I
8:50 I'm really not trying to troll you here, and it may be a minor nitpick, but The Phantom Menace had an eopie fart right into Jar Jar's face, which by your words would make that more childish than the water scene here. What's the difference? And I don't actually hate the prequels. I'm just looking for consistency here, is all. I want to understand your thought process, if you please.
I guess what he's trying to get at is that it doesn't make sense for a character such as Finn, who is an ex-Stormtrooper trained from infancy, battled his former leader with a lightsaber, got seriously injured by him, only for him to have a comedic relief aftermath, and a pointless sidequest that is also pretty comedic (both ironically and unironically). Jar-Jar is fundamentally supposed to be a comedic relief character who gets tied up into the most absurd of situations.
This is the worst movie I have ever seen. My question is through all the films problems, is why was there is a map to luke Skywalker if he didn't want to be found.
If I had to pick the worse movie I have ever seen, it would have to be either Doctor Strange 2 or Rise of Skywalker, but not TLJ
Ghostbusters Answer the Call and Frozen Empire are worse.
TRoS is terrible but I cannot stand how childish TLJ is, the jokes are nonstop.
I played Lego Force Awakens. Unnamed Yavin IV ripoff is Q'Dar
Does not excuse the movie for not telling us
@@j.j.plagiarisms7149 Name of the planet is the thing not really important if planet is boring anyway
@@Error-xy7ge D'Qar actually, but yeah, even TFA doesn't bother to call it by name, just a throwaway line when Finn and Rey are on the Falcon where they say "the Ileenium System". Can't even make up their mind on what's it called.
Blame Disney for hiring two token directors. They should never have given the go ahead for any Star Wars movies. It's much to big of a world. Mr Mystery box & Reen were not the ones.
Rian should have had the trilogy to himself, JJ is a hack.
@@virgogaming6488 he should be blacklisted is what
12:30
That statue is the guardian and representative of the UA-cam monetization system.
49:13 That design is a slug crammed into a shirt.
It's just as well that Rian mainly ripped off designs from Empire Strikes Back (take the First Order walker machines as an example), because when he designs things his own way, the results are very ugly.
Well said.
you are right, but, the walkers in TLJ are pretty badass tbh.
@@themagpie_1 I disagree, they’re just ripoffs of the ones from Empire Strikes Back
@@j.j.plagiarisms7149 does that include Tie Fighters, Star Destroyers, AT-ST`s as well.? or just the At-AT?
bruh this review is amazing
This movie was the first time where I found a John Williams soundtrack to be lacking. I think an interesting example of how poorly the music goes with the movie can be found in the Praetorian fight. In my opinion, the score seriously lacks the gravitas such an action sequence needs. I've personally found that trying to sync it up with Watch the Skies by Jeremy Soule completely changes the tone and improves it by a minuscule amount.
My personal example would be the whole movie
You can take a look for yourself by starting the track when the clip hits the 8 second mark.
Praetorian Fight: ua-cam.com/video/C3HMz25LvnY/v-deo.html
Watch the Skies: ua-cam.com/video/L-1f3cL1nCc/v-deo.html
Love the new thumbnail!
Duhhhhhh bUt CoSmOnAuT aNd IhE sAId It WaS gOoD sO mUsT bE gOoD
Cosmonaut is a hack
I cant belive i used to watch him
Wait, IHE liked TLJ? I used to watch IHE, what happened to him??
THE BIGGEST desapointment in the Star Wars Saga....After that, I didn't wanted to see Episode !!!!!
I honestly didn't mind the fact that Luke contemplated killing Kylo. But the fact that he didn't do anything about it AFTERWARDS, is the worst thing.
On the surface level, Luke's arc isn't bad. But the biggest problem is that Luke has no agency in this film. He doesn't drive the plot in any way. He doesn't contribute anything of value until the last minute. Heck, he even pussies out when burning down the tree with the "sacred texts". Yoda (mysteriously absent these 30+ years) has to show up and do it for him.
@Jake The Protogen I guess you’re right. I can concede that it’s egregious enough that Luke went as far as to ignite his freaking lightsaber over Ben.
There is no eagerness in me to defend THAT part of Luke’s actions. But I feel like it COULD have worked. It could have “rhymed” with his own father’s downfall: he became a victim of his own fears, creating a self-fulfilling prophecy.
I was just BEGGING to see Luke do something meaningful in the film. I think fans could have forgiven his mistakes if he did.
On a completely unrelated note, why were Luke’s Jedi living in wooden HUTS when the prequel era Jedi lived in high-tech temples?! 😂 No wonder Ben was starting to turn to the dark side 😂
I do disagree with the visuals. There were some breathtaking ones. The usually broke canon or were on the level of a Zach Snyder film's over the top (contextually meaningless) obvious symbolism, but they looked good.
There weren’t any breathtaking ones and no, nobody disagrees with the visuals. They weren’t on The level of a zack Snyder film
Not over the top. Also zack Snyder’s films and such aren’t contextually meaningless
The last Jedi doesn’t look good dude
@@firestriker3580 You wrote 3 responses to one comment, why?
There weren’t any breathtaking ones and no they didn’t break canon and Zack Snyder is a master at great visuals
This was another great video on this terrible movie! However, you nearly blasted my ear drums at 9:53! XD
Sorry about the Ear Drums stuff.
@@j.j.plagiarisms7149 in old eu ackbar did soo much more he was a genuis he also played a big part in fightning against grand admiral thrawn in the thrawn trilogy
So this is what its like if mauler did short videos.
This movie feels like it should have been some really low level Canon book in the old EU or something.
That's why I like it, it reminds me of something like The Crystal Star.
@@virgogaming6488 It honestly has some interesting stuff. I watched that one ec Henry video and it made a good case for last Jedi explaining space battle mechanics better than any other sw movie. But I still hate all the sequel movies as the final install ments of the so called Skywalker saga, they contributed nothing good to that story and are very uneventful compared to all preexisting sw movies. TLJ should have been one of the side movies and basically dropped all the Skywalker stuff.
@@edwardhenry8279 TLJ is the only movie I've grown to like from the ST because of how offbeat an un-Star Warsy it is. It's also the only Star Wars movie that tries to be more than just Star Wars.
@@virgogaming6488 what about the ewoks movie. But for real the sw universe deserves way better. TLJ is ok but still deficient in a lot of ways
@@edwardhenry8279 I liked them as a little kid but haven't revisited them, just view them as spinoffs set in the Star Wars universe.
Luke's reason for ending the Jedi was so insulting and unlikely for someone who followed a way of life religiously. He didn't even live in a time when the Jedi had a temple, library and numerous fanatics in touch with each others minds in discussion. If Luke failed to correctly train a Jedi, he should be aware, especially with Force Ghosts to remind him. Only, I don't think he failed. The Jedi had over a thousand generations of relative success overall. The 2 examples he gives of Vader and Kylo were both seduced by the same Sith, so it is them to blame, not the Jedi. People say the Jedi were to rigid and disciplined, but it was chaos and weakness, a lack of discipline that opened the door to corruption among the populace for the Sith to gain a foothold.
Last Jedi’s easily one of the worst star wars movies, only avoiding that title by The Rise of palpatine
The Last Jedi WAS bad. But it was more entertaining than an endless picture of a statue of a man doing a facepalm. Could we maybe see the video that's being rolled behind it?
This vid is perfect
Though TROS is still slightly worse than tlj
Agreed
No. *ROS* Is Better Than *ESB*
@@vykuntapufangtxpreet9546 this BETTER be a troll comment
@@vykuntapufangtxpreet9546 💀
Probablmy meant ROTS not ROS
Right, hyperspace ramming ruins the franchise but people pulling ships down with the Force isn't.... oh wait, that shit ruins the franchise as far back as the ORIGINAL ENTRY where all Vader would have had to have done is casually wave his hand to make the Rebel fighters crash against the walls of the Death Star trench to ruin their plans
Themz!!!!
When i first saw this movie i immediately stopped caring about starwars and it lost some of its majic for me. Dont know if the prequels did that for me ejther but maybe it was the nostalga for me as a kid watching it with all the lightsabers snd maybe thats how i am now. I remember the ot being not that exciting for me and the two trilogies felt kinda different for me and didnt really get the feeling they were similar to eachother and i didnt really get reminded of anakin when i got to know luke other than the complaining and attachments but they also look different and their personalities seem to be different too. I always liked the prequels more cause they were more exciting and war like. The ot has that too i think but on a less grand scale besides maybe hoth. It was more compact.
Your an hypocrite when you say that Leia dying when the bridge exploded would’ve been a good way to kill her off because of Carrie Fisher’s death, yet in the same sentence you call it disgraceful that Ackbar dies because the actor died (yet both of them died in 2016) so what the hell would make Leia’s different from Ackbar?
My Last Jedi Review is outdated and needs a reassessment, so I’ll keep that in mind.
I get your passionate about this franchise, but that part about suicide was completely out of line my man. Do better plz
Yeah, I kinda got carried away with that. Whoops.
Haven’t watched anything Star Wars since the force awakens and don’t have Disney + lol. That’s how you get back at Kathleen Kennedy, but not watching or buying any of the garbage they put out
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Themes are more relevant than writing I guess...
@@CT-Irodion With Rian, no shit
Last Jedi was really Force Awakens Part 2
Couple of issues with your premises against Ryan... A) Abrams came out right before the film released saying that it was an incredible film that he wished he had come up with and directed, and B) Nerdronymous's coverage of how Abrams actually didn't give Ryan any notes or plan details for the next film... I'm not saying Ryan wrote the best he could have with that in mind (the film is almost as bad as The Force Awakens), but he was given GARBAGE setups and was expected to come up with his own plan.
Yeah. My review is filled with a few mistakes.
@@j.j.plagiarisms7149 Still generally a decent breakdown - the more people who understand the issues, the better! I'm always trying to be careful of what criticisms I level at the sequels, because while they are objectively bad films I don't want to give clownish reasons like Red Letter Media did about the prequels (I want my criticisms to hold up logically).
It's salt.
The visor.... you can see out... it’s called a frog mouth helmet.. look it up
I see little resemblance to the Praetorian Guard Helmets and the Frog Mouth helmet from the medieval age
@@j.j.plagiarisms7149 it doesn't really matter what you see.. the visor come forward of the brow ridge with a slit placed higher than the eye line creating a slit... you are correct on your points with these movies but the design is directly taken from frog mouth helms
Preach on
#fire kk and her minions of orthodoxy
Goated movie
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I'm always late to the good stuff... Lol
That's okay.
The way he talks with I mean, you know, it’s like. Man this dude can’t even pull a cohesive sentence let alone script😂
L take
Techmo
Regular Show
Just a couple mins in but already half of what’s onscreen is a repetitive still image of a face palming statue and the “Story” section is spending a significant amount of time complaining about non-story elements like a simple snarky exchange and a remote controlled bombing.
Just seems like if you want to make the point that the film fails *as a film,* you’d put in the effort to ensure your very basically structured critique of said film was at least competent and visually engaging.
Aw, is someone crying because their precious masterpiece is being exposed for the garbage it is?
Good.
@@BrandontheAwesome Okay, it’s just weird that someone would make a garbage video and then call other peoples’ work garbage.
@@BrandontheAwesome Okay, it’s just weird that someone would make a garbage video and then call other peoples’ work garbage.
@@tristanmoore9653 His video ain't garbage, it's the facts!
@@BrandontheAwesome It’s pretty poorly structured and doesn’t take advantage of the medium. And that’s without going into detail about the substance of his complaints.
Am I the only one who liked The Last Jedi ?
Why do you like it, I want your insight.
@@j.j.plagiarisms7149 I loved Luke’s character arc, it gave me chills as hell. His character becomes the most wise and powerful Jedi ever at the end of the movie by facing Kylo without falling into the conflict. It’s the natural following of Luke’s journey, applying the lessons he learnt from Yoda of fighting without weapons, and with defense never attack.
The relation between Rey and Kylo Ren is the most ambiguous, complex, and fascinating relation of all the saga.
The environments are very creative, every planet visited has its own creatures, this is the only film of the sequel trilogy that felt like a Star Wars with creativity within the world. The biggest cow that Luke milked is one of my favorite addition to the all serie. It reminded me of the blue milk in episode 4, and it felt the most real and weird species in all the Star Wars movies, after the too clean and numeric (=unrealistic) species in the prequels.
The movie fixed a lot of plot holes of the previous movies : midiclorians ? Dead. Luke kissing Leia ? Made into something normal. The Jedi overseeing Palpatine’s plan ? Acknowledged. Kylo being a child under a mask ? Acknowledged. Poe being an impulsive fly boy ? Acknowledged. Hux being a monolithic and manichean villain ? Now he’s a joke. Snoke being a generic and boring villain ? Now he’s dead to push Kylo Ren’s development further. The scenario being too similar to the OT ? Now it’s new and original. Leia being just a commander and not using the Force ? Now she does. Rey being too powerful ? Now she’s dealing with personal existential crisis and she’s no match for Snoke, neither Kylo Ren, as she can’t take the saber from him.
The movie was just beautiful to look at, every frame seemed like painting, the way the movie is directed is the best looking film of the serie. The planet Crait with red salt and the red cave, it’s marvelous to look at, the way the movie plays with the colors, it’s one of the best directed Star Wars film. And the battles are far more relatable, as it’s the first time we care about the random pilots. The space battle at the beginning is the most relatable space battle as we care about Paige Tico when she is the last bomber left and tries everything to make the bomb drop onto the Dreadnaught.
I could spend hours to talk about the deep themes this movie is exploring, about human instinct, failure, heroism, hope in desperate cases, and the social impact of the conflict in Star Wars.
The end of the movie showed that anyone could have the Force if he believes in it the most. The movie connected with me on a spiritual level. I thought I could have the Force too. It made the Force spiritual and universal again, after being reduced to a boring science in the prequels.
My only issue : the codebreaker should have been the death stick seller from the bar in Attack of the Clones.
Those are all the reason I love this movie and think it’s a masterpiece. Feel free to disagree with me, I can understand that people don’t like this movie. In the end, it depends on our perception of Star Wars.
@@GameOver-vh7py I disagree with most you said(because it was mostly incorrect), but yes, DJ should be mr. death sticks.
@@sucky-kun4369 all the things I said were correct from my perspective. But you are still free to disagree with it, as opinions are subjective.
lol f this movie
I would say that inconsistencies do not make a movie bad. Literally every movie has inconsistencies.
It’s subjective value, just like the themes.
When one's inconsistenicies literally go against PRE-ESTABLISHED RULES SET BY WHAT CAME BEFORE, it is horrible. TLJ has no understanding of the Force, of the Jedi, or anything! It makes no sense! Only an absolute IDIOT would like this movie! THIS MOVIE IS, NOW AND FOREVER SHALL BE, A PIECE OF GARBAGE THAT DOES NOT, AND WILL NOT, DESERVE THE NAME OF STAR WARS!!!!!!
#DisneyShill
Rian is not wrong. It’s entirely subjective.
Criticism is almost fully objective, almost no subjectivity involved, the subjective part comes from if you can ignore the flaws to enjoy it or not.
@@sucky-kun4369 criticism is still taking our perception of the movie, as we have our own interpretation on the characters and the Star Wars universe.
@@GameOver-vh7py Not fully, Luke is a hard one to critique because its the most subjective thing in the movie, plot holes, contrivances, bad plot choices, bad twists and badly written characters are easier to critique because they are objective.
@@sucky-kun4369 plot holes are not objective, they are based on our interpretation on the facts of the movie because you interpret them as being inconsistent, then it’s based on a subjective judgment. Plot holes can be found in every movies, even in the Star Wars franchise. Explosions are making noises despite being in space. It’s technically a plot hole.
And badly written characters, it depends on what we expect from those characters.
@@GameOver-vh7py Plot holes are objective... thats the most objective criticism out there... especially with a hard magic system...
The giant cow that Luke milks is one of my favorite addition to the série and if you don’t like it, no offense, you have boring taste and I don’t want to be friend with you.
#FakeFan
Good, no one wants to be friends with a Disney fan anyway.
@@clonetrooper2003 there is not such thing as fake or true fan. If you like Star Wars and accept every type of fandom, you’re a fan.
@@GameOver-vh7py you are right. You either like rral star wars or fake star wars. You like fake star wars
@@GameOver-vh7py#FakeFan