fool. making more people suffer isnt gonna bring the dead ones back. the real killer is put away and thats that. you cant prove that doing something would have stopped her
@@kenwkls6392 you cant prove she did any of it?? You're just going by what you've been told, like convid vaccines they were a lie. Concentrate on that before this.
This is not opportunity for gossip. This is the murdering of innocent newborns. The topic to discuss is how and should life continue in the same vain. That is the only topic of discussion here, so pack it in.
@@JafLaf What do you mean, how is it 'gossip' ? The managment that ignored the staff, Dr's..etc who raised concerns, many times are partly responsible for waiting so long to act...seven deaths at least before they called the police..
No one can be trusted. Evil comes in many forms. A NICU nurse as a killer is just horrific. Prayers for the families and the victims. May they have the patience to grieve the loss of their beautiful little babies ❤️🩹.
You do realise [people get wrongly convicted for crimes they have not committed? No confession ,no hard evidence ,just circumstance . a conviction on circumstance is always shaky. A good example is Barry George convicted of murdering Dando Only an idiot would have thought him guilty
The bullying and harassment culture in these hospitals is shocking. Even doctors get silenced by these so called senior nursing managers. Such a terrible tragedy could have been averted. This nurse who murdered the babies is sick and might need psychiatric help. She can't just murder babies like that. This is crazy and twisted.
I am married to an executive health manager and I can assure you the bullying is from doctors to management, not generally the other way around. My husband and I have both witnessed specialists yell, swear, intimidate, stamp their feet like children, act self-entitled and arrogant, and write vitriolic and unprofessional correspondences. Fortunately there are a lot of good and great specialists too. What do you mean by 'so-called senior nursing managers' silencing' doctors? I've been a nurse for 30 years and have worked under a lot of nurse managers. They are typically skilled, smart, decent, motivated and academic, most with post graduate health and management degrees. They are not going around silencing doctors or anyone else to do the right thing. They're not the stratus in management who would be dealing with an issue like this anyway. The 'gang of four' are so vocal now, throwing management under the bus. Why now but not then? Why did not one of them tell us they went to the police despite management. They are covering their backsides. It's no comfort to the families when these guys go on tellyand say, "we knew but management wouldn't let us report it".
@@TwistedSister1234The NHS management LITERALLY ignored them and made them apologise to the child killer. They repeatedly gaslit anyone who raised a concern and even threatened to report them to the GMC and have them struck off. There is clearly a big problem with NHS management. It needs overhauling.
@@ch-p2861 I find it chilling how sweet and innocent this baby-killer looks. Most evil people have a cast about them in their features, but this one looks as innocent as an angel, and maybe this is one factor which deceived her co-workers for so long. I pity the poor parents of this monster.
I feel for all the families that have lost their child to a killer and her own parents. The guilt they must feel, the shame they must have, and what would be worse for me, is i couldn't imagine not loving my child no matter the crime. What a sad fought to have, I couldn't imagine losing a child in such fashion nor imagining my child being a murderer. That horrible human has destroyed not only the victims' lives but also her own parents
Im sad for the parents of the dead babies specially the triplets two of them dead how heartbreaking ,to carry three children your womb nine months and lose two of them murdered at the hand of that monstruos girl May God grant those poor parents consolation in their grief
I don’t seem to understand why the facility don’t have a CCTV in the nursery room, wherein they could check immediately if there’s something unusual happened every death of the patient or when the suspicion arises! It took them 11 months to call the cops! What an absurd response from the management of the hospital.
When our daughter underwent double hip surgery at a famous london children's hospital,the surgical team prescribed pain killers,sleeping tablets and anti biotics. The pain killers and anti biotics were given to us to give our daughter orally. The sleeping tablets were given and taken back by the nurse. She denied ever taking them back so,our daughter went without the sleeping tablets. The nurse was probably dependent on the sleeping tablets and had no shame stealing them from the children. In another less famous hospital in london when our daughter was in the neonatal unit,all her 4 life support tubes were disconnected from the 4 different mainstream supply! The nurse put it down to a simple mistake but we are not sure. Our daughter was in the intensive neonatal care until for over 100 days.
Usually this kind of people can delude very well others. They can be very popular, extremely friendly, a good person and on the side, they kill people or can be very sadist to another person. It's their target. And the person who is being targeted can't prove to others the bad things that these type of person are doing to them. It's really sick. I have been through that and it's sickening.
@@lisapalmer4725 i know. I got one psycho teacher in primary school. I entered primary school at 6 years old and i was beaten everyday from 8 a.m. till 5 p.m. Whenever i opened my mouth she slapped me in the face. I was quiet all the time i only opened my mouth to answer what she asked at class. This took place from 6 years old till 11 years old. So because of this i developed a stutter. Lost three jobs because of my stuttering already. And i bet her children are well established in life. Truly unfair. Also got psycho teachers at college. They really now how to delude everyone and make you the scapegoat.
Something is missing from this situation, i.e., where were the signs prior to all of this what was her childhood like and relationships with others what is the report from her psychiatric evaluation. I'm struggling to understand what will make a human being do this to children 😪
my guess is as good as anyone’s but I think this is probably a case of OCD or something. She probably had intrusive thoughts to flip a switch or push a button that caused these deaths, and couldn’t shake them. Didn’t get help / didn’t tell people of the condition and this happened.
@@nadasabbagh6273I agree - only child given what she wanted. Narcissist created. When she couldn't have the doctor she was seeing - her narc injury rage had to come out. Tiny babies are scapegoats. I would think her parents cowtowed to her all the time.
@@pallasathena1369 absolutely. Apparently her childhood was a happy one but oftentimes people are quite unaware of how unhappy thier childhood was. This is a shocking and awful case. I'm saddened for the parents who lost their babies. :(
Any person in the medical field reading this just know if you also feel something is not right then you can contact the police anonymously by phone or by letter......No need to give your name and just state what concerns you have.
Myra Hindley not only lived to a decent age but had a bunch of pals inside and outside, prisoners and staff, as well as campaigners who believed she had “changed”- and she came quite close at one point to getting parole. But in the late 80s she admitted that she told a load of lies to the parole board, and that she was much more involved in the deaths of some of the children than she had admitted before. She got a whole-life tariff slapped on her instead. But as for Letby - The sentencing guidelines these days say that multiple murderers “whose crimes involved sexual abuse, pre-planning, abduction or terrorism” should never be released from prison. Well, she certainly pre-planned it, and very coolly.
Unfortunately, this is most serial killers, innocent looking no harm, until they get exposed. SERIAL killers like Lucy will away with it because no one would suspect a bright-eyed woman who got loads of friends This are kind of folks you need to watch out for
The moment you bring back the death penalty you open the door for situations where innocent people wrongly convicted get executed. Definitely not saying Letby is innocent, just don't be in a rush to bring back the death penalty just because her crimes justifiably enrage you
Her parents will spend the rest of their lives in complete and total denial. No parent can ever fully believe that the little baby they watched grow into a 'beige' and 'ordinary' young woman is actually a monster capable of committing crimes like these. I wonder what kind of support they're getting or if it would be a total waste of time and money, knowing they're likely to be highly resistant brick walls for the rest of their lives not even WANTING or ABLE to make room for acceptance and all incoming psychological help and support. They're not the twisted ones, so the punishment ought to be Lucy's alone. Nobody ever makes documentaries or writes books about the topic I've touched upon here. I'm into psychology so would love to learn more.
Or they can process it like normal human beings and condemn the monster their daughter is. I’ve learnt that a paternal figure in my family is a ped0philic assaulter, we all moved on from him and despise him. Nobody is ‘in denial’ or ever has been. This is most definitely making excuses for criminal-sympathising behaviour.
@@Meirins I never assume anything about the private psychological process of total strangers. I don't know Letby's parents. All I know is that the shock and denial-- especially if your darling daughter totally denies the charges, still to the present day-- is a strong brick wall for certain people who just cannot process the possibility, cannot requite the details and accusations with the person they knew intimately their entire lives. I wonder if they will ever accept that she's guilty though. I cannot imagine myself being in denial if I were in their shoes, certainly not for a prolonged period of time. I can't relate to them. When/if they come around to accepting the evidence and the jury's verdict instead of still grasping at straws (ie; it's an NHS negligence issue and their daughter is being used as a scapegoat or whatever else they've convinced themselves of), I can only hope they get some help and support getting their heads back to some kind of 'normal' baseline. I cannot relate to either of them, I find their denial bizarre and repugnant.
NHS 'Management' sit up in their ivory towers in plush, rarified corridors where everyone has to tiptoe around and speak in hushed voices it's no wonder people are scared to come forward. I have worked for an NHS Trust as an IT Support person, I've seen it, I know what goes on.
@@bradley8258 Seems a...needlessly hostile response. Also, I wasn't saying it was the case for me. And also go screw yourself, you rude little tard. :D
Its disgusting how they ignore the possibility of her killing the babies like if babies keep dying in her shift then there's really something wrong with her. As saying goes once is enough two is too much but those executives feign ignorance
What on earth motivated her to do such wicked evil acts .. it doesn’t make sense at all .. those poor parents .. I can’t even imagine what they’re going through.. sorry but she’s not mentally ill.. she’s clearly just evil!
@@fireonawire by the sound of things you need one seriously man, this is about a nurse murdering babies dude this is no time for jokes you have zero class. The mundanity of your oppointment in comparison is just seriously bad taste man.
At the time, nobody suspected Lucy Letby of wrong-doing. It was only after the consultants who were running the neonatal unit became the subject of a critical report from the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health (RCPCH) that they went on to file a report with the police alleging the infant deaths were due to the actions of nurse Lucy Letby. (...) In all but one case, the infants received autopsies and the coroner found that they died of natural causes. It is apparent that a crucial element in the Lucy Letby case is the reliability of the original investigation. It is of great concern that Dr Evans conducted the investigation with the assistance of the consultants who were present on the ward at the time of death, and where, in any other setting, such individuals should have been treated as suspects. A further factor is whether Dr Evans was qualified to conduct any investigation given that he is neither a forensic scientist nor a pathologist. Dr Evans has no formal training or background in the principles of scientific research. It is highly irregular for a group of medical doctors to play a primary role in carrying out a criminal investigation. In most other jurisdictions such activity would not constitute an independent investigation." For more details please navigate to: rexvlucyletby
"Who is nurse Lucy Letby"? She's not all that different from Tony Blair, George W. Bush, Hilary Clinton, Nicolas Sarkozy, Barack Obama, Theresa May and David Cameron.
It would be great if everyone stopped saying she looks innocent. NO ADULT IS INNOCENT. I can see how she got away with it for so long. Pretty popular people can always fool others around them, like a shepard herding sheep. Its like high school, the popular kids never do no wrong and everyone gets brainwashed by them. She clearly had everyone around her dancing to her tune and under her spell. The same way everyone here is shocked that she has done this. Your being fooled by her devilish good looks and demeanour. Stop being sheep BAHHHHHH
@cakes1166 it's a wild untamed world. You think you can trust people and then they go and do something awful. As close as I am with family and friends and care for them all. I always keep my guard up. It's not immature, its life. No one is innocent. If you think that, it's you that needs to grow up and learn. There is no excuse for being nieve. That's the ultimate truth.
@cakes1166 I would argue back, but I'm not the immature.l one here. If you want to be overly trusting in life, that's your decision. Dont blame anyone if your trust is abused at some point in time. It will all be on you. I keep my guard up. Nothing immature about protecting oneself against the bad will of others. It's a survival mechanism and it always works. Stay safe, you clearly will need it at some point.
@cakes1166 nope, didn't understand a word of that rambling. Now didn't I say I wasnt immature to continue to have this discussion...yes I did. Time for you to go wind someone else up. Bye bye
‘Devilish good looks’? She’s literally a lopsided hound. Nothing about her is beautiful. When people call her looks ‘innocent’ they mean she doesn’t look offensive like a drug addict would for example, whom people would think more likely to commit such crime than a seemingly normal person.
These guys /and girls are one of the most brutal sadistic killers on the face of this planet. Mark my words, she was giddying off the thought of hurting families all throughout her schooling days.... That giddy laugh,behind everyone's back, that THEY DO, as they follow through on their plans to kill... Is their cup of tea like a drug is to a drug addict.
I don't think the authorities would care about that. They just focus on the fact that she did, and the next step is punishment. For me, I'll like to know why, to prevent people becoming like this.
@@Bondjamesbond199 You're right. It just seems so strange. I wonder mostly if it was all planned as she had been on a course where she learnt about injecting oxygen into blood and the effects it has. Or whether she just decided to do it on the spot one night. Guess we will never know.
God is still inside babies souls because they haven't broke a commandments. May the angels love them and play with them until they return again. Rest in peace little ones ❤
My heart goes out to the mum's And dad's Of the babies Who did not deserve this At all I'm not going to spend my time talking about that thing. Who did this? My only thoughts are for the babies. Who never got a chance to grow up and to start school and to lead such fulfilling lives. 💔💔💔💔
No crime is a reasonable by nature, but some crimes committed by humans are utterly beyond words of comprehensions. How soulless, evil filled one can get to lay hands on the most vulnerable defenseless living being? Living near Safari, we even see fierce hunters like cheetahs, lions and leporids grabbing babies of other animals during their hunts, but then, do not kill them or very much hesitate to eat them no matter how hungry they are. Even these animals that live on the principles of hunting intrinsically deterred when they get hold of vulnerable babies of other animals and at times even protect them from other hunters.
According to dr. David Holmes in another video: “… one is born with psychopatic tendensies …” But that is a BIG LIE and only meant to spare the parents. No one is born with psychopathic tendencies or other tendencies to harm others. But with needs for love and protection and not to be abused. If she was prepared to give up her repressed injuries from her first years of life the babies would still be alive. This woman is driven to take revenge for what was once done to herself when she was as small, defenseless and weak as the babies in her hands. Not only Letby is guilty but also society as a whole, because everyone protects the parents and remains blind to the facts of child abuse and does not try to find the roots of this senseless destruction together with the perpetrators and spread this very important information about the dynamic of child abuse to the whole world.
Interesting and generally very correct and sound take, however I am not sure it is validly applicable in this instance. Killing babies out of childhood trauma is extremely unlikely, as an individual abused by ‘superiors’ would naturally gravitate towards empathising with the ‘lesser’, helpless being, and even going to the extent of harming their seniors. She would most likely have tried to harm the mothers if she could, had it been retaliation due to years of emotional maiming. I say so because my siblings and I have gone through terrors by all the corrupt and barbaric adults in our lives, and all of us instinctively display the same thinking and behaviour- the child is always right and is placed first before the parent- and I tend to be extremely harsh in judgment towards adults and their actions, women and men alike. However I very much agree that society as a mass has failed by protecting the parent and hallowing the beliefs and traditions of the seniors, while wilfully neglecting and mistreating the helpless little humans.
So many were defending her too despite the blatant evidence against her and claiming her innocence when I was condemning her as it doesn’t fit society’s “Only men are evil narrative” they’re awfully quiet now…
@@ChamberedMaiden Oh 100% that too being a major factor. In fact when I actually mentioned this on a previous post I received the same old gaslighting & deflecting tactics: “Why must you make everything be about race?” “We don’t know for sure if she’s guilty” yet when are videos about men and specifically people of Colour accused of crimes these *same* types are screaming for they’re heads and talking about “So much for diversity” gotta love the double standard hypocrisy 🤦🏿♂️
All the guff about her not seeming like a killer is stupid - of course she was operating under a guise. The hospital should have erred on the side of caution FAR sooner, they have blood on their hands.
I am sure when management question her she would cry and prove herself innocent that way .. and the so called senior management would fall fr the fake tears...! I believe that the management should hv people who don't take emotional decision,... the entire management deserves to be fired....! And dr. Like Ravi should hv higher priority in decision making!
She's a murderer! She was *never* "normal" ..Deceptive for sure. A sociopath and or narcissistic serial killer. There's a time for merciful compassion, and this isn't it!
Everyone knows Lucy's face. Which TV news network has the balls to plaster the faces of the hospitals' senior board members and director/s who was more concerned about having a PR disaster than listen to the concerns the consultants? The nurses' union who protected her during the 2-year desk job.
What’s absolutely nuts is people not only committing these crimes but spending all the hundreds of thousands on medical school, nursing school, law school & 4- 10 years post secondary… then suddenly becoming criminal. Example…Rpst lawyer in boston 2023, rpist medical doctor in nyc 2023, mrdr infants as a nurse, lwyr ends wife 2023…etc
This shouldn't end here. The hospital management are also culpable for doing absolutely NOTHING when reports were made.
fool. making more people suffer isnt gonna bring the dead ones back. the real killer is put away and thats that. you cant prove that doing something would have stopped her
@@kenwkls6392 you cant prove she did any of it?? You're just going by what you've been told, like convid vaccines they were a lie. Concentrate on that before this.
This is not opportunity for gossip. This is the murdering of innocent newborns.
The topic to discuss is how and should life continue in the same vain. That is the only topic of discussion here, so pack it in.
@@JafLaf What do you mean, how is it 'gossip' ? The managment that ignored the staff, Dr's..etc who raised concerns, many times are partly responsible for waiting so long to act...seven deaths at least before they called the police..
The nurse's union is also culpable for protecting her.
It's mad to think how many evil people psychopaths live among us
Control us. Royal family are wronguns. They like kids, watch sound of freedom
You can spot a lot of them by the uniform...😨
Loads of psychopaths around us, luckily, only a handful turn out to be twisted murderers
@@milkboccleyes she sounds twisted. Or is it that her intention was to do this from the start.
I know!! So scary we trust anyone!
Those who ignored the pediatrician's concerns should be charged with manslaughter. And killer- Lucy why! These are innocent babies.😭😭😭😭😭
No one can be trusted. Evil comes in many forms. A NICU nurse as a killer is just horrific. Prayers for the families and the victims. May they have the patience to grieve the loss of their beautiful little babies ❤️🩹.
You do realise [people get wrongly convicted for crimes they have not committed? No confession ,no hard evidence ,just circumstance . a conviction on circumstance is always shaky. A good example is Barry George convicted of murdering Dando Only an idiot would have thought him guilty
Why is chief executive not in court. Management is also equally guilty.
Very good question. Lucy is not the only guilty party here.
The doctor is the person who reported her, "management" had nothing to do with her actions, they didn't tell her to kill those babies.
The bullying and harassment culture in these hospitals is shocking. Even doctors get silenced by these so called senior nursing managers. Such a terrible tragedy could have been averted. This nurse who murdered the babies is sick and might need psychiatric help. She can't just murder babies like that. This is crazy and twisted.
I am married to an executive health manager and I can assure you the bullying is from doctors to management, not generally the other way around. My husband and I have both witnessed specialists yell, swear, intimidate, stamp their feet like children, act self-entitled and arrogant, and write vitriolic and unprofessional correspondences. Fortunately there are a lot of good and great specialists too.
What do you mean by 'so-called senior nursing managers' silencing' doctors? I've been a nurse for 30 years and have worked under a lot of nurse managers. They are typically skilled, smart, decent, motivated and academic, most with post graduate health and management degrees. They are not going around silencing doctors or anyone else to do the right thing. They're not the stratus in management who would be dealing with an issue like this anyway.
The 'gang of four' are so vocal now, throwing management under the bus. Why now but not then? Why did not one of them tell us they went to the police despite management. They are covering their backsides. It's no comfort to the families when these guys go on tellyand say, "we knew but management wouldn't let us report it".
@@TwistedSister1234The NHS management LITERALLY ignored them and made them apologise to the child killer. They repeatedly gaslit anyone who raised a concern and even threatened to report them to the GMC and have them struck off.
There is clearly a big problem with NHS management. It needs overhauling.
@@ch-p2861
Thank you.
People need to discern evil. And to call it such. She's evil, not disturbed!
@@ch-p2861 I find it chilling how sweet and innocent this baby-killer looks. Most evil people have a cast about them in their features, but this one looks as innocent as an angel, and maybe this is one factor which deceived her co-workers for so long. I pity the poor parents of this monster.
I feel for all the families that have lost their child to a killer and her own parents. The guilt they must feel, the shame they must have, and what would be worse for me, is i couldn't imagine not loving my child no matter the crime. What a sad fought to have, I couldn't imagine losing a child in such fashion nor imagining my child being a murderer. That horrible human has destroyed not only the victims' lives but also her own parents
Yeah they should close down abortion clinics especially in all the poor areas ..which y'know were they are mostly like the aliens and sheets
Well said.
Im sad for the parents of the dead babies specially the triplets two of them dead how heartbreaking ,to carry three children your womb nine months and lose two of them murdered at the hand of that monstruos girl May God grant those poor parents consolation in their grief
If you still have trouble processing feelings of hatred towards a literal murderer then you’ve got mental issues yourself.
I don’t seem to understand why the facility don’t have a CCTV in the nursery room, wherein they could check immediately if there’s something unusual happened every death of the patient or when the suspicion arises! It took them 11 months to call the cops! What an absurd response from the management of the hospital.
The banality of evil.
Those poor, poor babies and their families. Sending them my love 💓 As a mother & grandmother, i am so very, very sorry.
When our daughter underwent double hip surgery at a famous london children's hospital,the surgical team prescribed pain killers,sleeping tablets and anti biotics. The pain killers and anti biotics were given to us to give our daughter orally. The sleeping tablets were given and taken back by the nurse. She denied ever taking them back so,our daughter went without the sleeping tablets. The nurse was probably dependent on the sleeping tablets and had no shame stealing them from the children.
In another less famous hospital in london when our daughter was in the neonatal unit,all her 4 life support tubes were disconnected from the 4 different mainstream supply! The nurse put it down to a simple mistake but we are not sure. Our daughter was in the intensive neonatal care until for over 100 days.
thank you for sharing this. I am sad that you had yo go through this.
Definitely sounds as if the nurse stole the sleeping tablets for her own use.
OMG. I'm so sorry you and your daughter had to experience this.
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Does not surprise me at all. I know of several drug addicts who went into nursing so that they had access to drugs. Disgusting.
She wasn’t a nurse!! She was a real monster 😭😭😭
No. she was a product of the white community
Totally horrifying world we live in😢
It's so heartbreaking. It is so hard to believe that someone hurts the babies.
It is just as sick and unimaginable when someone harms adults, e.g. old, helpless people.
Usually this kind of people can delude very well others. They can be very popular, extremely friendly, a good person and on the side, they kill people or can be very sadist to another person. It's their target. And the person who is being targeted can't prove to others the bad things that these type of person are doing to them. It's really sick. I have been through that and it's sickening.
Correct, the devil has a beautiful face!
@@ottie1954 The enemy comes disguised as an angel of light.
These types tend to work in schools also
@@lisapalmer4725 i know. I got one psycho teacher in primary school. I entered primary school at 6 years old and i was beaten everyday from 8 a.m. till 5 p.m. Whenever i opened my mouth she slapped me in the face. I was quiet all the time i only opened my mouth to answer what she asked at class. This took place from 6 years old till 11 years old. So because of this i developed a stutter. Lost three jobs because of my stuttering already. And i bet her children are well established in life. Truly unfair. Also got psycho teachers at college. They really now how to delude everyone and make you the scapegoat.
Hopefully she will meet some very nasty individuals inside.
we all know they dont like child killers inside she will not last long leving in a box
Women's prisons are a lot worse than men's for people like this
Not likely, She'll end up in Rampton.
She already has
@@davidtaylor-iw9khshe'll be in protective custody
24 Hour Video Cameras would make it safer in all maternity Units….this must never happen again.
Not only in maternity units, but also in nursing homes for adults.
I think this is so chilling how could anyone hurt a child, an animal a person full stop shocking god keep the children safe and heal the families .
She's innocent. This is just more British racism against the indigenous.
white folks do this al the time. no surprise
Watch sound of freedom. And wake the f up
Something is missing from this situation, i.e., where were the signs prior to all of this what was her childhood like and relationships with others what is the report from her psychiatric evaluation. I'm struggling to understand what will make a human being do this to children 😪
Yea her upbringing had something to do with it im sure.
my guess is as good as anyone’s but I think this is probably a case of OCD or something. She probably had intrusive thoughts to flip a switch or push a button that caused these deaths, and couldn’t shake them. Didn’t get help / didn’t tell people of the condition and this happened.
@@rickyrodrigues8536 maybe but it's not just OCD. There's some trauma that manifested heavy there, I'm sure.
@@nadasabbagh6273I agree - only child given what she wanted. Narcissist created. When she couldn't have the doctor she was seeing - her narc injury rage had to come out. Tiny babies are scapegoats. I would think her parents cowtowed to her all the time.
@@pallasathena1369 absolutely. Apparently her childhood was a happy one but oftentimes people are quite unaware of how unhappy thier childhood was. This is a shocking and awful case. I'm saddened for the parents who lost their babies. :(
Any person in the medical field reading this just know if you also feel something is not right then you can contact the police anonymously by phone or by letter......No need to give your name and just state what concerns you have.
Her life is gonna be cut short fr behind bars.
Myra Hindley not only lived to a decent age but had a bunch of pals inside and outside, prisoners and staff, as well as campaigners who believed she had “changed”- and she came quite close at one point to getting parole. But in the late 80s she admitted that she told a load of lies to the parole board, and that she was much more involved in the deaths of some of the children than she had admitted before. She got a whole-life tariff slapped on her instead.
But as for Letby - The sentencing guidelines these days say that multiple murderers “whose crimes involved sexual abuse, pre-planning, abduction or terrorism” should never be released from prison.
Well, she certainly pre-planned it, and very coolly.
Unfortunately, this is most serial killers, innocent looking no harm, until they get exposed.
SERIAL killers like Lucy will away with it because no one would suspect a bright-eyed woman who got loads of friends
This are kind of folks you need to watch out for
Bring back the death penalty for this monster.
Let her serve life in prison, it will be a lot worse for her.... She doesn't deserve a quick death.
@@oddpoppetesq.3467do u think she will get a private cell or public?
The moment you bring back the death penalty you open the door for situations where innocent people wrongly convicted get executed. Definitely not saying Letby is innocent, just don't be in a rush to bring back the death penalty just because her crimes justifiably enrage you
@robertwinslade3104 your totally right but she killed babies don't you think....ya know deserves the death penalty?
@@oddpoppetesq.346740 years in prison with a death penalty at the end of the sentence. Sounds about right
Why wouldn’t administrators have acted on the side of caution…..just on the off chance the Drs knew what they were talking about? Crazy
Her parents will spend the rest of their lives in complete and total denial. No parent can ever fully believe that the little baby they watched grow into a 'beige' and 'ordinary' young woman is actually a monster capable of committing crimes like these. I wonder what kind of support they're getting or if it would be a total waste of time and money, knowing they're likely to be highly resistant brick walls for the rest of their lives not even WANTING or ABLE to make room for acceptance and all incoming psychological help and support. They're not the twisted ones, so the punishment ought to be Lucy's alone. Nobody ever makes documentaries or writes books about the topic I've touched upon here. I'm into psychology so would love to learn more.
Or they can process it like normal human beings and condemn the monster their daughter is. I’ve learnt that a paternal figure in my family is a ped0philic assaulter, we all moved on from him and despise him. Nobody is ‘in denial’ or ever has been. This is most definitely making excuses for criminal-sympathising behaviour.
@@Meirins I never assume anything about the private psychological process of total strangers. I don't know Letby's parents. All I know is that the shock and denial-- especially if your darling daughter totally denies the charges, still to the present day-- is a strong brick wall for certain people who just cannot process the possibility, cannot requite the details and accusations with the person they knew intimately their entire lives. I wonder if they will ever accept that she's guilty though. I cannot imagine myself being in denial if I were in their shoes, certainly not for a prolonged period of time. I can't relate to them. When/if they come around to accepting the evidence and the jury's verdict instead of still grasping at straws (ie; it's an NHS negligence issue and their daughter is being used as a scapegoat or whatever else they've convinced themselves of), I can only hope they get some help and support getting their heads back to some kind of 'normal' baseline. I cannot relate to either of them, I find their denial bizarre and repugnant.
“She’s beige as a person” damn. If the disgusting murders didn’t end her career that roast would have done
NHS 'Management' sit up in their ivory towers in plush, rarified corridors where everyone has to tiptoe around and speak in hushed voices it's no wonder people are scared to come forward. I have worked for an NHS Trust as an IT Support person, I've seen it, I know what goes on.
I feel NHS is full of those!!! Carers, nurses, GPS, doctors etc When your job puts you on pedestal like that narcissists flourish !!!!
Death penalty.
What is a reason that led her to kill the babies ?
If she even did
Maybe she doesn’t like Mondays?
Are new born babies going to be safe now . this one nearly slipt threw the net.worst nightmare for parents now if this could happen again .
Crazy world we live in, at times i found it hard to believe she was guilty but until proven any other wise its very evil what she has done.
Is it possible to use more words and say even less than ITV does in this non-report?
She looks so pure and angelic. I would never have thought this possible.
Can we not base possible morality on looks
So what would have made her look more like an evil killer? Her hair/skin colour, weight, height?
@@El-iw6xn Be nice if we didn't, but human nature means we usually default to doing it.
@@zufghspeak for yourself. Not everyone is an idiot
@@bradley8258 Seems a...needlessly hostile response. Also, I wasn't saying it was the case for me. And also go screw yourself, you rude little tard. :D
Its disgusting how they ignore the possibility of her killing the babies like if babies keep dying in her shift then there's really something wrong with her. As saying goes once is enough two is too much but those executives feign ignorance
What on earth motivated her to do such wicked evil acts .. it doesn’t make sense at all .. those poor parents .. I can’t even imagine what they’re going through.. sorry but she’s not mentally ill.. she’s clearly just evil!
I would say she's mentally ill rather then evil
There is more like her in hospitals all over the UK
all doctors and nurses are like this. all monsters
We need the death penalty for evil like this
No we don’t it was accident
this whole thing is so heartbreaking
Your commentary was so deep.
Such profundity in the comments.
Eye roll!!
She's sick.
Perfect description of a covert malignant narcissist./ Psychopath.. Personality disorders are real!
Only good part about this story is that she's behind bars.
But those parents will never get their kids back.
Anything on the wrongful arrest of the autistic child?
My wife used to work at Rampton where Beverly Allett is kept. She left after 3 months as she couldn’t stand working above where she was.
I‘m sure Allitt wasn’t the only patient in Rampton who had committed unspeakable crimes.
What kind of justice is this? She needs severe punishment
So thjs clip is just proposing the questions and NOT answering them huh
welcome to british news.
@@Pharaohred lol yeh welcome
Thank goodness she worked in the nhs - a private healthcare system would cover this up completely.
Still not as hated as a GP's receptionist.
What on earth are you on about?
@@leicesterguxtry getting an appointment
@@fireonawire by the sound of things you need one seriously man, this is about a nurse murdering babies dude this is no time for jokes you have zero class. The mundanity of your oppointment in comparison is just seriously bad taste man.
@@fireonawirethis isn't funny comparing not getting a appointment with a baby killer...
@@fireonawireI don’t think a Patrick Bateman pp is suitable for a comment on this vid
At the time, nobody suspected Lucy Letby of wrong-doing. It was only after the consultants who were running the neonatal unit became the subject of a critical report from the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health (RCPCH) that they went on to file a report with the police alleging the infant deaths were due to the actions of nurse Lucy Letby. (...)
In all but one case, the infants received autopsies and the coroner found that they died of natural causes.
It is apparent that a crucial element in the Lucy Letby case is the reliability of the original investigation.
It is of great concern that Dr Evans conducted the investigation with the assistance of the consultants who were present on the ward at the time of death, and where, in any other setting, such individuals should have been treated as suspects.
A further factor is whether Dr Evans was qualified to conduct any investigation given that he is neither a forensic scientist nor a pathologist. Dr Evans has no formal training or background in the principles of scientific research. It is highly irregular for a group of medical doctors to play a primary role in carrying out a criminal investigation. In most other jurisdictions such activity would not constitute an independent investigation."
For more details please navigate to: rexvlucyletby
there are genuine and kind people among the monsters majority of the so called health care.
Yeah. They're out there, believe it or not.
"Who is nurse Lucy Letby"? She's not all that different from Tony Blair, George W. Bush, Hilary Clinton, Nicolas Sarkozy, Barack Obama, Theresa May and David Cameron.
Except by all possible metrics.
@@akeyasa2228 how so?
Only a typically deluded right wing fanatic would try to drag politics into a serial killing
@@abijitguptatrading This isn't comparable to politics nonsense. Dumb comment.
Most underrated comment ever.
It would be great if everyone stopped saying she looks innocent. NO ADULT IS INNOCENT. I can see how she got away with it for so long. Pretty popular people can always fool others around them, like a shepard herding sheep. Its like high school, the popular kids never do no wrong and everyone gets brainwashed by them. She clearly had everyone around her dancing to her tune and under her spell. The same way everyone here is shocked that she has done this. Your being fooled by her devilish good looks and demeanour. Stop being sheep BAHHHHHH
@cakes1166 they do need waking up, including you....TRUST NO ONE. Number 1 rule in life. I learnt that lessons a long time ago.
@cakes1166 it's a wild untamed world. You think you can trust people and then they go and do something awful. As close as I am with family and friends and care for them all. I always keep my guard up. It's not immature, its life. No one is innocent. If you think that, it's you that needs to grow up and learn. There is no excuse for being nieve. That's the ultimate truth.
@cakes1166 I would argue back, but I'm not the immature.l one here. If you want to be overly trusting in life, that's your decision. Dont blame anyone if your trust is abused at some point in time. It will all be on you. I keep my guard up. Nothing immature about protecting oneself against the bad will of others. It's a survival mechanism and it always works. Stay safe, you clearly will need it at some point.
@cakes1166 nope, didn't understand a word of that rambling. Now didn't I say I wasnt immature to continue to have this discussion...yes I did. Time for you to go wind someone else up. Bye bye
‘Devilish good looks’? She’s literally a lopsided hound. Nothing about her is beautiful. When people call her looks ‘innocent’ they mean she doesn’t look offensive like a drug addict would for example, whom people would think more likely to commit such crime than a seemingly normal person.
Shocking horrible evil beyond belief
These guys /and girls are one of the most brutal sadistic killers on the face of this planet. Mark my words, she was giddying off the thought of hurting families all throughout her schooling days.... That giddy laugh,behind everyone's back, that THEY DO, as they follow through on their plans to kill... Is their cup of tea like a drug is to a drug addict.
just shows how the nhs is as youd think alarm bells would have rung the nhs needs to be looked at as well
sorry?
The NHS is a blessing, just look at American 'healthcare', don't put down the NHS over the actions of one horrible creature.
Has anyone asked her why she did this?
I don't think the authorities would care about that. They just focus on the fact that she did, and the next step is punishment. For me, I'll like to know why, to prevent people becoming like this.
@@Bondjamesbond199 You're right. It just seems so strange. I wonder mostly if it was all planned as she had been on a course where she learnt about injecting oxygen into blood and the effects it has. Or whether she just decided to do it on the spot one night. Guess we will never know.
@@Bondjamesbond199it's hard to get to know why as she's denied doing it...
God is still inside babies souls because they haven't broke a commandments. May the angels love them and play with them until they return again. Rest in peace little ones ❤
amen❤
Questions to hospital administration committee.
You spin me right round baby right round
My heart goes out to the mum's And dad's Of the babies Who did not deserve this At all I'm not going to spend my time talking about that thing. Who did this? My only thoughts are for the babies. Who never got a chance to grow up and to start school and to lead such fulfilling lives. 💔💔💔💔
And what’s the actual story?
Hope she ends in jail for murdering those poor babies
No crime is a reasonable by nature, but some crimes committed by humans are utterly beyond words of comprehensions. How soulless, evil filled one can get to lay hands on the most vulnerable defenseless living being? Living near Safari, we even see fierce hunters like cheetahs, lions and leporids grabbing babies of other animals during their hunts, but then, do not kill them or very much hesitate to eat them no matter how hungry they are. Even these animals that live on the principles of hunting intrinsically deterred when they get hold of vulnerable babies of other animals and at times even protect them from other hunters.
What goes on in the NHS?
Did they purposely show those pictures of her like that?
They show phycho vibes instantly
It doesn't make sense to me
I bet management would have thought “Well, she looks like one of us, she can’t be wrong. That Indian doctor must be wrong.”
Administration should also be held as accomplices to these murders
I hope the families of all the dead babies sue the hospital administrators on a personal level. I hope they lose their sweet pensions and homes.
Thanks for sharing
See… that s why I don’t trust nhs
Sad. 😢 Praying for the best for this case. God bless you. 🙏
Headline claimed it had the reason she supposedly turned into a murderer.Turns out its fake news,surprise surprise.Prayers to families caught up🙏
And not a single comment on the evidence !
She’s not right in the head
According to dr. David Holmes in another video: “… one is born with psychopatic tendensies …”
But that is a BIG LIE and only meant to spare the parents. No one is born with psychopathic tendencies or other tendencies to harm others. But with needs for love and protection and not to be abused. If she was prepared to give up her repressed injuries from her first years of life the babies would still be alive. This woman is driven to take revenge for what was once done to herself when she was as small, defenseless and weak as the babies in her hands.
Not only Letby is guilty but also society as a whole, because everyone protects the parents and remains blind to the facts of child abuse and does not try to find the roots of this senseless destruction together with the perpetrators and spread this very important information about the dynamic of child abuse to the whole world.
Interesting and generally very correct and sound take, however I am not sure it is validly applicable in this instance. Killing babies out of childhood trauma is extremely unlikely, as an individual abused by ‘superiors’ would naturally gravitate towards empathising with the ‘lesser’, helpless being, and even going to the extent of harming their seniors. She would most likely have tried to harm the mothers if she could, had it been retaliation due to years of emotional maiming.
I say so because my siblings and I have gone through terrors by all the corrupt and barbaric adults in our lives, and all of us instinctively display the same thinking and behaviour- the child is always right and is placed first before the parent- and I tend to be extremely harsh in judgment towards adults and their actions, women and men alike.
However I very much agree that society as a mass has failed by protecting the parent and hallowing the beliefs and traditions of the seniors, while wilfully neglecting and mistreating the helpless little humans.
Get the brutes who were the administration into court NOW!
😢very sad
no man, just two cats ?! This is insane
And AGAIN - a report that told us absolutely NOTHING...."What led her to kill?" Answer "We don't know".
UA-cam gave me a warning because I said she should get the death penalty seems like youtube cares more about baby killers and their feelings
So many were defending her too despite the blatant evidence against her and claiming her innocence when I was condemning her as it doesn’t fit society’s “Only men are evil narrative” they’re awfully quiet now…
The complexion for the protection. It wasn't just that she appears female.
@@ChamberedMaiden Oh 100% that too being a major factor. In fact when I actually mentioned this on a previous post I received the same old gaslighting & deflecting tactics: “Why must you make everything be about race?” “We don’t know for sure if she’s guilty” yet when are videos about men and specifically people of Colour accused of crimes these *same* types are screaming for they’re heads and talking about “So much for diversity” gotta love the double standard hypocrisy 🤦🏿♂️
....wat?
All the guff about her not seeming like a killer is stupid
- of course she was operating under a guise. The hospital
should have erred on the side of caution FAR sooner, they
have blood on their hands.
The rubbish over applauding of Nurses has to stop
NHS managers are to blame
and doctors
I am sure when management question her she would cry and prove herself innocent that way .. and the so called senior management would fall fr the fake tears...!
I believe that the management should hv people who don't take emotional decision,... the entire management deserves to be fired....! And dr. Like Ravi should hv higher priority in decision making!
That’s what we to worry about now?! Omg I would never leave my family alone anymore
She's a murderer! She was *never* "normal" ..Deceptive for sure. A sociopath and or narcissistic serial killer. There's a time for merciful compassion, and this isn't it!
What did the babies die of
All of the hospital managment should get jail time! Especially managers.
If she was stressed from the job she could have quit instead of taking it out on helpless babies….
The management of the hospital are equally guilty for this issue...
What led a hospital who if had any vague idea of wrongdoing.. DIDN'T HALT.. stupid woman claiming someone 'beige' senior management must do jail.
CCTV is a must in every unit
She chose this job to do this , this was a fantasy of hers for sure
Everyone knows Lucy's face. Which TV news network has the balls to plaster the faces of the hospitals' senior board members and director/s who was more concerned about having a PR disaster than listen to the concerns the consultants? The nurses' union who protected her during the 2-year desk job.
Before becoming a nurse or a doctor you should have a police record checked and mental health as well.
Absolutely she was never qualified really
Caucasity is our strength.
What is THAT supposed to mean?
@@Eazy-ERyder it's a zogbot
The funny thing is, if these racists actually met people from the Caucasus, they would perceive them as mid-eastern looking.
What a stupid comment 😂
Something is very wrong with her brain...😢😢😢
What’s absolutely nuts is people not only committing these crimes but spending all the hundreds of thousands on medical school, nursing school, law school & 4- 10 years post secondary… then suddenly becoming criminal. Example…Rpst lawyer in boston 2023, rpist medical doctor in nyc 2023, mrdr infants as a nurse, lwyr ends wife 2023…etc